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RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually
I think there is a lack of understanding of Apple's goals
here. Mac OS can run perfectly fine on commodity
hardware from Dell, etc. they just purposely prevent it
from doing so. (Check out all the "Hackintosh" OS X boot-
loaders if you don't believe me).

Something I learned long ago in marketing class is that big
brands don't want to be too successful, as it dilutes their
image and reduces the premium they are able to charge. If
everyone wore Prada every day, it wouldn't be a special
brand anymore, and they wouldn't be able to command the
same price premium. Apple is very similar to that in a
way, and so their goal is to grow to an optimal size to
make enough profit, but not so large that they lose their
image of "Exclusivity".

Another (technical) aspect is that one of the reasons OS X
works so well is because Apple has tight control of the
hardware. This would evaporate if it could run on
thousands of different models of computer.

Finally, Windows Para-virtualization isn't all it's cracked up
to be. It doesn't work with many products, and nobody can
make their own kernel since it's not open-source.

Microsoft's Hyper-V is also a niche player mainly used at
shops who drink Microsoft's cool-aid in abundance.
Likewise Linux's built-in solutions are useful for certain
things, but not everything. Anyone who is serious about
doing large scale virtualization uses VMWare, which is
available for Mac OS. Unfortunately, the version that's
available is not what would be good for server use.
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Run in virtual environment would be nice  Richard Flude | 08/30/09
and SunXVm too  pupkin_z | 08/31/09
Xvm VirtualBox  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
Repeat after me 10,000 times....  arminw | 08/31/09
Huh?  wrightdonw | 09/01/09
And General Motors is the only company that makes cars...  914four | 09/10/09
Mac OS X Server no advantage over Linux or Windows Servers  rogerv | 09/05/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  shiruba | 08/31/09
Exactly  darthstupid | 08/31/09
RE: Blaming VMWare  branchman67 | 08/31/09
Correction  xXSpeedzXx | 08/31/09
infoworld  rparker009 | 08/31/09
yawn  darthstupid | 08/31/09
Sigh  rahbm | 09/01/09
Not VMWare's Fault, Apple's to the Power Core! wink  i2fun@... | 08/31/09
PLEASE!  maclovin | 09/02/09
Check out the Apple License  eweingartner@... | 08/31/09
Read the Apple License..  PsyBeats | 08/31/09
hardware company  elllroy | 08/31/09
Amen.  bishofthedump | 08/31/09
Interview: Apple?s Gigantic New Data Center Hints at Cloud Computing  z3r0_f4ct0r | 09/02/09
Ding ding ding - we have a winner  hawks5999 | 08/31/09
I....  maclovin | 09/02/09
Well, the Motorola 6502 processor was a commodity in 1981...  HypnoToad72 | 08/31/09
Filesystem  bmonsterman | 08/31/09
Stability  schicanoloco@... | 08/31/09
Really.  davidhite | 08/31/09
What possible idiot  caligula@... | 09/01/09
so right  sonhenjz | 09/01/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  darthstupid | 08/31/09
VMWare Fusion.  xXSpeedzXx | 08/31/09
Neither are hypervisors  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
Okay, I hadn't  xXSpeedzXx | 08/31/09
VMware could make OS X run on ESX tomorrow  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
OS X Server Virtualization  Too_Busy_To_Be_Here | 08/31/09
If it runs on fusion  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
Priorities Jason  aj.redmond@... | 08/31/09
But this is just the point  DWDavis | 08/31/09
@ DWDavis - Hyperviser, Shmypervisor  aj.redmond@... | 08/31/09
Nothing to be scared of  davidhite | 08/31/09
@ davidhite  aj.redmond@... | 08/31/09
yeah  davidhite | 08/31/09
NOT a hypervisor  davidhite | 08/31/09
MOney  schicanoloco@... | 08/31/09
Slow News  bigbokeh | 08/31/09
Did you just watch  davidhite | 08/31/09
Ah Go Check  bigbokeh | 08/31/09
@Bigbokeh RE slow news  j-mccurdy@... | 08/31/09
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No, it's about people who can't differentiate  Evilyn | 09/01/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  lundp@... | 08/31/09
Apple is a consumer computer company  frgough | 08/31/09
So *that* is why  honeymonster | 08/31/09
so *that* is also why  Samic | 08/31/09
I didn't think that was particularly enterprisey  DannyO_0x98 | 08/31/09
in fact, to go one step further...  barbose | 08/31/09
Ummm, consumers don't have Exchange  rtk | 08/31/09
No, its because...  arminw | 08/31/09
Sure  rtk | 08/31/09
Plus that virtualization is mostly for half-assed platforms like windows  Mikael_z | 08/31/09
Obviously  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
Virtualization simply says that the current platform (windows)....  Mikael_z | 09/01/09
Virtualization is an approach to resource management ...  dkawalec | 09/01/09
You should get current on your ideas about virtualization  jfgeschmidtt | 09/03/09
So it's actually resource management?  Mikael_z | 09/05/09
Huh?  bmonsterman | 08/31/09
ROTFLMAO...  kvkalidindi | 08/31/09
And with the registry, file systems that readily fragment, and being bloaty  HypnoToad72 | 08/31/09
Again...  bmonsterman | 09/02/09
Better question: Why is Windows still so bad?  Mikael_z | 09/03/09
You must be a Mac user  John Zern | 08/31/09
No said Apple isn't successful.  mwagner@... | 08/31/09
There are an increasing number of people....  arminw | 08/31/09
True enough but ...  mwagner@... | 08/31/09
Market share ain't worth much in the real world  Mikael_z | 09/01/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  MC_z | 08/31/09
RE: Subsidizing  branchman67 | 08/31/09
Wrong  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
The problem is that Apple is a hardware ...  mwagner@... | 08/31/09
There were a LOT of problems with NeXT  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
Absolutely wrong  j.m.galvin | 08/31/09
Well, yes and no ...  mwagner@... | 08/31/09
Are you insane?  j.m.galvin | 08/31/09
Apple is a hardware company  psion@... | 08/31/09
The Subsidy Question  DannyO_0x98 | 08/31/09
"Does Apple know something that we don?t?"  mlindl | 08/31/09
What paradigm shift?  bmonsterman | 08/31/09
Actually...  daftkey | 08/31/09
Pretty sure Apple POS solution is  rtk | 08/31/09
And what position do you hold at Apple?  JohnnieBG2 | 09/01/09
Apple non hated, but not corporate either  jcschweitzer | 08/31/09
Corporate all about low cost, thats not Apple's  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/31/09
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So...  zkiwi | 08/31/09
Wintel  mr.zachcoffman@... | 08/31/09
Apple's Narrow Vision will be its Undoing  jpr75_z | 08/31/09
Undoing?  bdammann | 08/31/09
But they have done very very well....  arminw | 08/31/09
what?  sonhenjz | 09/01/09
Apple is not a software company  ChiperSoft | 08/31/09
Spot on !  barbose | 08/31/09
There is no reason why not  darthstupid | 08/31/09
Because Parallels Server  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  jwoods@... | 08/31/09
Not a hypervisor  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  lsnover | 08/31/09
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Except making...  arminw | 08/31/09
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Yes...  zkiwi | 08/31/09
Microsoft  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
So?  zkiwi | 08/31/09
A better question  rtk | 08/31/09
I guess...  zkiwi | 09/01/09
hatchet job  sonhenjz | 09/01/09
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ACK!  maclovin | 09/02/09
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Cost of PC vs. Mac  mixedupfiles | 08/31/09
What can I say ...  mwagner@... | 08/31/09
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Hmm  mr.zachcoffman@... | 08/31/09
IBM got out because PCs had become ...  mwagner@... | 08/31/09
"Fought them off"?  j.m.galvin | 08/31/09
Apple's profits  rtk | 08/31/09
so what  sonhenjz | 09/01/09
HP DL380 most popular rack server out there  Wintel BSOD | 08/31/09
VirtualBox runs great on my Mac...  scott1329 | 08/31/09
VirtualBox  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
VirtualBox runs great on my Mac...  richdave | 08/31/09
You know, to be perfectly fair...  Spiritusindomit@... | 08/31/09
Documentation, Multi-media production  Filker0_z | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  Gyula Bognar, Jr. | 08/31/09
There are other columnists  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
Gorillas in the Aviary  DannyO_0x98 | 08/31/09
A low cost terminal....  arminw | 08/31/09
Actually...  zkiwi | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  geoff_chan | 08/31/09
Apparently apple wants to avoid any chance...  pcguy777 | 08/31/09
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Apple sell hardware.  magallanes | 08/31/09
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Oh really?  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
Stick to Technology  Eleutherios | 08/31/09
So  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
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Continuum  hawks5999 | 08/31/09
Stalled?  aj.redmond@... | 08/31/09
stalled  rtk | 08/31/09
Your info is limited to business?  aj.redmond@... | 09/01/09
Yes, really  Ken_z | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  pjones | 08/31/09
Then Why Sell Mac OS X Server and XServe at all  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
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Please explain the difference between hyper visor and other options  John J. Jordan | 08/31/09
Definition of Hypervisor  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
Definition of Hypervisor  John J. Jordan | 08/31/09
Question  keoz | 08/31/09
Hyper-V  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  eswarjj | 08/31/09
This article makes a valid point.... but ....  kingtj | 08/31/09
Apple does what Apple does...  FriBaby | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  imc001 | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Completely Blows It Virtually because...  ChrisGnyc | 08/31/09
Then they should kill  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
Uh, WHAT?!  matthew_maurice | 08/31/09
You just don't get it....  arminw | 08/31/09
You missed the boat, not Apple.....  peterbcarter | 08/31/09
Virtual Infrastructure  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
And apple doesn't care about that market.  hawks5999 | 08/31/09
Why would OSX do better than Unix?  Li1t | 08/31/09
VDI  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
I GET IT  bigbokeh | 08/31/09
plus 1  smitsc05 | 08/31/09
I agree  aj.redmond@... | 08/31/09
It's not the Apple way.  dchase@... | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  tech_ed@... | 08/31/09
Virtualization Is Better On Mac  Boulder_Bum | 08/31/09
Again  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
Mac OS should run on "commodity" computers?  HollywoodDog | 08/31/09
Same ol' Same ol'  Narg | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  aquasys | 08/31/09
Often unreliable?  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  mkd@... | 08/31/09
Apple? In the enterprise?  CobraA1 | 08/31/09
Wow.. I agree with something Jason has written  croberts | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  SinjinNY | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  ol_pip | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  Michael S Wilde | 08/31/09
Explain...  bmonsterman | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  schicanoloco@... | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  phatkat | 08/31/09
RE: STOP Crying. Free alternatives exists.  taranfx@... | 08/31/09
Not relevant  bmonsterman | 08/31/09
YOU ALL SUCK  acdesign | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  joeldm | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  iamnoskcaj | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  acdesign | 08/31/09
Time to do third party licensing  jeff.fostermedia@... | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  bj70117@... | 08/31/09
deja vous all over again...  Komplex | 08/31/09
I fully agree with you.  gnostication@... | 08/31/09
Separating the OS and the hardware...  arminw | 08/31/09
Apple: A Software Company?  gary@... | 08/31/09
The Real Issue for a Consumer OS  lsnover | 08/31/09
Well, not all the enterprises need it  fernande-zdnet | 08/31/09
What 500?  Windcrest | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  acdesign | 08/31/09
Apple in the DC? What dream land are you from?  Windcrest | 08/31/09
I think it's called "focus"...  8string | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  acdesign | 08/31/09
Is Apple doing their own?  jscott418 | 08/31/09
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RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  barbose | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  barbose | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  barbose | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  davidhite | 08/31/09
Nobody Cares!  savge | 08/31/09
Look behind the curtain.  Quigs | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  acdesign | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  barbose | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  acdesign | 08/31/09
Mac OSX has DTRACE  barbose | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  stenman@... | 08/31/09
No, dude, you've got it all wrong, I've been around TOO LONG.  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
Which all goes to show...  zkiwi | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  acdesign | 08/31/09
RE: OS hardware together ...not in the Enterprise  barbose | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  acdesign | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  barbose | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  acdesign | 08/31/09
Entire companies are moving to the virtual environments  JordanN. | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  david@... | 08/31/09
Uh, excuse me  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
Who makes those hypervisors....  arminw | 08/31/09
So...  zkiwi | 08/31/09
You'r3e not excused  david@... | 09/01/09
Wrong.  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 09/06/09
Quality of your post leaves much to be disired  sjaak327 | 09/01/09
Apple's is Virtually not in the game  The Management consultant | 08/31/09
Snow Leopard Server VMWare or Parallels=Virtualized Snow Leopard  nix_hed | 08/31/09
The only hypervisor solution is Parallels Server  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
If Apple permits OS-X to run on non-Apple  fmcgowan | 08/31/09
Hypervisor/Virtuality aside, ZFS could have helped maintain a foothold...  readwryt@... | 08/31/09
Final Cut Server  z3r0_f4ct0r | 09/02/09
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RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  chromeronin | 08/31/09
Who care's  Silex | 08/31/09
Hows that... ?  GetReal-mac.com | 08/31/09
Time to realize what is going on ...  stevejg61 | 08/31/09
OMG! OMG! OMG!  His_Shadow | 08/31/09
No it's not.  gypkap@... | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  VEGuru | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  scotartt | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  richdave | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  joelkruissink@... | 08/31/09
Snow Leopard isn't what you think. The big one is yet to come.  Shooshie | 08/31/09
another example of Apple rushing this one out  tech_walker | 08/31/09
You're pathetic  Macintoshtoffy | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  darthstupid | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  darthstupid | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  TCollinsG3 | 08/31/09
ParaVirtualizized? (sic)  Hate Malware | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  ewelch | 08/31/09
What about Virtual Box then.....  tommin | 08/31/09
ONE MO' TIME!  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 08/31/09
Amazing  tomh0665 | 09/04/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  cees.de.kuijer@... | 08/31/09
Its not possible  bklooste | 08/31/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  JulesLt | 09/01/09
OS X Snow Leopard doesn't NEED a "HyperVisor", Macs are EFI not BIOS based  caligula@... | 09/01/09
No no  mihailenator | 09/01/09
Sure, Maybe...but  bmonsterman | 09/02/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  sonhenjz | 09/01/09
Linux is a very viable option  apexwebmaster | 09/02/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  z3r0_f4ct0r | 09/02/09
Would be a decent option  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 09/02/09
ZDNet's Jason Perlow Completely blows it ....actually!  maclovin | 09/02/09
Major Updates Yearly  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 09/02/09
Late addition and will probably go unread but:  richdave | 09/02/09
To be fair  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 09/02/09
Correct about ZFS...  UsernameRequired | 09/05/09
and we should care about this.. WHY?  Hobyx | 09/04/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  StanleyCup99 | 09/04/09
Have you been drunk for 2 decades?  JoeBob_z | 09/05/09
RE: Apple's Snow Leopard Completely Blows It Virtually  clayton@... | 09/10/09

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