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Phone as a uniform data device NOT mobile providers' preference
Mobile phone companies prefer NOT to be treated as just a data ISP. Instead they have traditionally maintained false fragmentations, such as separate voice, SMS and lately data streams, when all can be expressed as data with differing QoS attributes.

This allows them to charge absurd amounts for some things, such as 25c for SMS in Australia. How much data does an SMS use? Much less than an email!

But the main use for this differentiation is to create absurdly confusing plans that make it difficult to accurately compare them. And makes it easy for users to have to pay for more than they will actually use.

Flat rate data would allow users to determine what would be best for their needs as they go along, but it levels the playing field for providers.

Kudos for 3/Hutchinson for pioneering this space.
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Phone as a uniform data device NOT mobile providers' preference  Patanjali | 06/09/09
Dude  jdbukis@... | 06/10/09
OrangeUK - the exception, not the rule...  BillDem | 06/10/09
Absolutely  pwn0tr0n | 06/10/09
AT&T even charges more to iPhone users than users of other phones.  deowll | 06/10/09
the data pricing logic  skroll@... | 06/10/09
Glad to hear it's not just US consumers getting screwed  zdnet-gregc | 06/10/09
You don't text enough  stano360 | 06/23/09
i am in complete agreement  james1701_d | 06/12/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  hector1403 | 06/10/09
Well  jdbukis@... | 06/10/09
Unlocked Nokia E63 solution  bunkport | 06/10/09
Until consumers put their foot down....  tswartz | 06/10/09
use the iPhone in TMobile  skroll@... | 06/10/09
Not true! I tried it.  blandm | 06/10/09
Consumers used to have a choice  hunger_z | 06/10/09
They have a choice in the uk  jdbukis@... | 06/10/09
They have a choice in the US  skroll@... | 06/10/09
Same as the UK  jdbukis@... | 06/10/09
The real crime are these mandatory 2 year contracts with cancellation fees.  T1Oracle | 06/10/09
Like I said  jdbukis@... | 06/10/09
what is wrong with pre-pay?  pfyearwood | 06/10/09
Nothing  jdbukis@... | 06/10/09
Are you kidding?  tiredofcrappysoftware@... | 06/11/09
Its NOT the phone  LegendsOfBatman | 06/12/09
Won't get until minutes don't expire after 30 days!  janek@... | 06/12/09
90 day expiration or more available with pre-pays.  pfyearwood | 06/12/09
not a big deal, right now  adr5@... | 06/10/09
im verizon too  pcguy777 | 06/10/09
why is this a crime??  skroll@... | 06/10/09
You may be right  LegendsOfBatman | 06/20/09
Carriers know that no one will pay $300  tswartz | 06/10/09
Thank goodness they didn't!  stano360 | 06/23/09
Nuke it  pjotr123 | 06/10/09
Problem with that is  jdbukis@... | 06/10/09
Isnt that what the internet is for  pcguy777 | 06/10/09
Phone subsidies are not longer needed.  TheTruthisOutThere@... | 06/10/09
But they wont  jdbukis@... | 06/10/09
You know nothing about business  stano360 | 06/23/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  cotech@... | 06/10/09
That  jdbukis@... | 06/10/09
AT&T already nickles and dimes you  T1Oracle | 06/10/09
Nickles & Dmes &pennies & ...  TiggerTom | 06/10/09
no subsides should equal cheaper monthly rates  gtvr | 06/10/09
I doubt  jdbukis@... | 06/10/09
I suspect that a cheap phone costs  deowll | 06/10/09
True  jdbukis@... | 06/10/09
or even less!  jonrichco | 06/10/09
Apple Needs To Open Itself To Other Carriers  itanalyst2@... | 06/10/09
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss  bmgoodman | 06/10/09
Agreed..The USA Is A Joke  itanalyst2@... | 06/10/09
I don't want to agree, but..  eMJayy | 06/10/09
It's a Carrier and "Copper" issue  washjc | 06/10/09
It's also a Geographic issue  jcooter | 06/10/09
Some numbers to back up jcooter.  pfyearwood | 06/11/09
???  dtroyerSMU | 06/10/09
You are on crack.  pwn0tr0n | 06/10/09
"Compared to third world countries..."  ncthavoc | 06/10/09
I transfer pictures using sync  rattlesnake0407 | 06/11/09
Verizon is CDMA  Stuka | 06/10/09
Go almost anywhere with GSM  Mahegan | 06/10/09
Almost all GSM phones made today...  Stuka | 06/10/09
Ahh, the T610  homant@... | 06/10/09
T616?  guyonearth | 06/10/09
tri-band is old news  nessrapp | 06/11/09
You got a long wait.  deowll | 06/10/09
Yep and then what  eldernorm | 06/10/09
Or don't get the iPhone  stano360 | 06/23/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  Stan57 | 06/10/09
I've spent much time in Europe, US is a mobile backwater  HollywoodDog | 06/10/09
That works in Europe because  Stuka | 06/10/09
Don't complain  wkulecz | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  mpilatzke@... | 06/10/09
Spotty service  abarten | 06/10/09
Costa Rica Case  jorios_cr@... | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  dschmutz@... | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  mwagner@... | 06/10/09
CableCard Device  bmgoodman | 06/10/09
Agreed  washjc | 06/10/09
Early Upgrade Fees Must Go when devices die mid-contract  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 06/10/09
Thats What insurance is for.  jdbukis@... | 06/10/09
Insurance?? LOL  dtroyerSMU | 06/10/09
Once again  jdbukis@... | 06/10/09
People! Quit drinking the Marxist Kool-Aid!!!  stano360 | 06/23/09
CableCards  ssaha | 06/10/09
"Economy in Decline"  Mahegan | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  bullittbob | 06/10/09
Amen  kferraro@... | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  geno.a.zomparelli@... | 06/10/09
A main problem with the actions of the past...  ladymony | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  trybble1 | 06/10/09
You almost always have a choice.  shawkins | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  DotWhat | 06/10/09
Don't believe it  stano360 | 06/23/09
AT&T works great in Minneapolis  gman1868@... | 06/10/09
What Can be done  dustyk | 06/10/09
Get away from my carrier!!  stano360 | 06/23/09
Business versus Utility  dborges07 | 06/10/09
Using the "iPhone" to gain audience?  it@... | 06/10/09
Not enough people really need a iPhone  jscott418 | 06/10/09
Applause, Applause  washjc | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  johnwott | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  proadventurer | 06/10/09
You're very young, aren't you...  Jim from NoVA | 06/10/09
I totally agree  K4thwright | 06/10/09
Thanks for the compliment but...  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 06/10/09
indeed young and naive ...  nigebj | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  rhagar | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  jjutkowitz2 | 06/10/09
Easy to FIx  Mectron | 06/10/09
Usage vs. Technology: We never use it all, so why the Out of Sight cost  dtroyerSMU | 06/10/09
are you bipolar ?  tahoe_blue | 06/10/09
HEH, cost of cpu, health, cost, all issues ignored  dtroyerSMU | 06/10/09
more extremes  tahoe_blue | 06/10/09
ah......im an extremist  dtroyerSMU | 06/10/09
What a world!  stano360 | 06/23/09
ATT will exchange my newly purchased iPhone  mmcintos | 06/10/09
Exception, not the rule  dtroyerSMU | 06/10/09
This story smacks of racism  mnpundit | 06/10/09
Give it a rest  washjc | 06/10/09
RE: "consider the lead based paint issues in toys"  mnpundit | 06/11/09
Their products' reputation preceeds them  Peedge80 | 06/10/09
It's not Racism...  mutor | 06/10/09
Re: "It's not Racism... It's just reciting facts."  mnpundit | 06/11/09
This is all pretty silly  stano360 | 06/23/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  tomjw217 | 06/10/09
Purchase cost is only a fraction of the total cost  David ben-Avram | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  techdeuce.com | 06/10/09
$99 iPhones WILL Improve the Wireless Experience!  mnpundit | 06/10/09
Cell phone providers need to transition to being ISPs  jcschweitzer | 06/10/09
"cheap Chinese and Taiwanese construction"???  klockheed | 06/10/09
I've been to ISO-9000 certified factories in Asia several years ago  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 06/10/09
WAY to tell it! Thank you for EXPOSING THE MYTH  dtroyerSMU | 06/10/09
RE: Thank you for [NOT] EXPOSING THE MYTH  mnpundit | 06/11/09
HTC  jdbukis@... | 06/10/09
Really?  wineaux | 06/10/09
Yes  jdbukis@... | 06/10/09
Freedom of Speech - its just an opinion  dtroyerSMU | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  mrlinux | 06/10/09
Good thing they broke up AT&T in the 80's...  smitsc05 | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  surfer8210@... | 06/10/09
Nope  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  shanedr | 06/10/09
Too cheap to be true...always a catch  0zcan | 06/10/09
What is it with cheap/crappy = Chinese or Taiwanese?  josephmartins | 06/10/09
If you had any idea...  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 06/10/09
You're still missing the point  josephmartins | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  brighteyes459@... | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  brighteyes459@... | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  gbohrn | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  JasmineGreen | 06/10/09
ATT is negatively affecting my opinion of Apple  paulfox | 06/10/09
What do you hate more, Apple or the industry?  jh7468@... | 06/10/09
ATT is negatively affecting my opinion of Apple  paulfox | 06/10/09
happy - Apple - the failed experiment  dtroyerSMU | 06/10/09
Just the facts mam just the facts  freereader | 06/10/09
Okie.....  dtroyerSMU | 06/10/09
once we have to start printing money to ourselves  pcguy777 | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  myoungbl@... | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  jnoel@... | 06/10/09
who said you have to use the latest over engineered cell phone?  pfyearwood | 06/11/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  ross00@... | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  preachjohn | 06/10/09
Antitrust, restraint of trade, tying, DOJ, FTC, ...  pwatson | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  Peedge80 | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  philipqv2 | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  jpm007 | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  jpm007 | 06/10/09
Re: this story  eldernorm | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  jeffar | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  mutor | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  shieka@... | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  old_fogey@... | 06/10/09
Open Source Smartphones  gregricemail@... | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  rwhaller42 | 06/10/09
Hopeless business model  jonrichco | 06/10/09
Don't blame the carriers for the prices, blame the manufacturers  bedwa | 06/10/09
Nobody got screwed  otaddy | 06/10/09
Your getting screwed!  rmanbike | 06/10/09
No competition?  otaddy | 06/10/09
No competition?  rmanbike | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  huttyputt | 06/10/09
Standardization  otaddy | 06/10/09
$8.00 month cell phone bill  rmanbike | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  ppeirce@... | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  WLMarx@... | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  hmx | 06/10/09
POTS (PSTN)  TGO | 06/10/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  Wendykf06 | 06/11/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  Daveyk01 | 06/11/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  kluvender@... | 06/11/09
An Apple a Day Will Break You  socalsnow | 06/11/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  edgyontherocks | 06/11/09
Phone I want with provider I want  zclayton2 | 06/11/09
RE: "consider the lead based paint issues in toys"  mnpundit | 06/11/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  tbanks204 | 06/11/09
And AT&T Customer Service Is Ridiculous  getbusyliving | 06/11/09
You will have a choice of networks in the US Soon.  comp_indiana | 06/11/09
iPhone is tough  comp_indiana | 06/11/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  james1701_d | 06/12/09
That's why I don't have a cell phone!  janek@... | 06/12/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  im3much | 06/12/09
RE: $99 iPhones Will Not Improve the Wireless Customer Experience  rkegel@... | 06/13/09
Iphone is marvelous!!.....  zooyiiyaa | 06/16/09

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