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I'm not a shill
but I will say that I have had wonderful experiences with Canon hardware. I owned an ip6600D that lasted me many years, then I gave it to a friend and purchased an MP970. In both cases, using the vanilla flavored Windows Driver Installation wizard, then directing it to the folder on the CD with XP drivers (it had them for 98SE, 2000, Vista, and OSX as well), the printer, scanner, and card reader all came up under Printers, Imaging Devices, and Disk Drives in Device Manager respectively. Installation took about 90 seconds, and I could choose to install all bundled software, selected titles, or none at all. Additionally, the drivers also install color spaces for Photoshop which greatly add to the accuracy of the things that I print from Photoshop. While the individual ink vs. integrated tri-color cartridge debate will go on for eternity, the Canon 8 series cartridges have some of the lowest cost-per-mL of ink I've seen in recent memory. The Canon machines do cost more, but it is well worth it. While the HP machines are generally good ones, the drivers for them have, for many years, been unnecessarily large, required a lengthy install process, and in many cases have been the root of other issues with the system.

As for the virus issue, two features of Avast that have been lifesavers are that it can be installed in safe mode (MSI installers and many installshield packages cannot), and upon installation you can schedule a boot-time scan, which will scan for and remove viruses before Windows loads. On a badly infected machine, I boot into safe mode w/networking, download/install/update avast, then reboot. Some machines have required passes with Spybot/Adaware thereafter, but in most cases Avast left the system clean enough to boot into normal mode and remove the rest. Also, when removing Symantec products, google the Norton Removal Tool instead of simply uninstalling. the NRT does a more thorough job of removing the Symantec crap, but I'd still recommend a registry scan thereafter to get rid of some of the tentacles still lying around.

Joey
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I'm not a shill  voyager529 | 12/17/08
I have an MP600...  Sleeper Service | 12/17/08
Why keep bashing Vista?  jonrichco | 12/22/08
blame where blame is due  waltmaine | 12/23/08
Be careful what you ask for.  zclayton2 | 12/23/08
What!...  Bob_BLC | 12/23/08
WTF?  PottHead | 02/13/09
VISTA  schapman@... | 12/23/08
re: VISTA  Badgered | 12/23/08
I can help you out with that...  07palman@... | 12/31/08
Vista bashing  ratfret | 12/23/08
HP printers suck  superhobo | 12/22/08
Actually it's Canon MFDs that suck!  simul8guy | 12/23/08
Or.....  joe.smetona@... | 12/24/08
Malware removal tools  alexburns | 12/26/08
Sounds like a lot of effort.  joe.smetona@... | 12/26/08
Sounds more like  mdemuth | 12/17/08
exactly  coffeeshark | 12/17/08
ftw!  eggmanbubbagee@... | 12/17/08
lol!!  Pembo | 12/22/08
A major reason  Crestview | 12/22/08
Agreed!  Pembo | 12/22/08
I totally agree!  gerardhsd@... | 12/22/08
Computers require maintenance  tfarquhar@... | 12/23/08
What??  macadam | 12/23/08
wrong title  pupkin_z | 12/17/08
you'll see that a lot  reverseswing | 12/17/08
Exactly!  cdmsr | 12/26/08
How well I know this  Crestview | 12/22/08
I second that (nt)  tikigawd | 12/22/08
I'll guarantee...  fairportfan | 12/22/08
Blote ware  mjolnar@... | 12/22/08
Mine didn't work  Northlite | 12/22/08
Logic?  boberuski | 12/24/08
Excuse me but blame is not the issue  seannj427 | 12/22/08
re automating  bruce88 | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  Badgered | 12/17/08
He didn't follow the instructions which state:  ye | 12/17/08
Yep, that's how I thought they worked. ty for the info  Badgered | 12/18/08
No, I did not  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 12/18/08
Irrelevent. The instructions state to install the software before...  ye | 12/18/08
I FULLY agree with this.  jacobjohnn | 12/30/08
Doesn't Happen sometimes  DevGuy_z | 12/18/08
that's how it always is  coffeeshark | 12/18/08
re: No, I did not  Badgered | 12/18/08
Classic Perlow  philipralban@... | 12/18/08
Hahah, Virtual Migration Article!  mikefarinha | 12/18/08
It's usually a no brainer  devlin_X | 12/18/08
And thats all good....  storm14k | 12/18/08
You need to read the WHOLE thread.....  devlin_X | 12/18/08
I've noticed . . .  JLHenry | 12/23/08
Very true....there is a solution  devlin_X | 12/29/08
re:No, I did not  gcerny12 | 12/18/08
Not sure this is true  dprozzo | 12/19/08
Installing drivers  Franciscus101 | 12/22/08
Nope, htey are right - software first, even on XP  jgwinner | 12/22/08
Nothing new here  PhilFrisbieJr | 12/22/08
...only a problem in Vista...  stone-cutter | 12/22/08
Clear instructions provided  CageySee | 12/22/08
HP Solution Center Software is the problem not Vista  Ernie Ganas | 12/22/08
Reading the instructions?  Spiritusindomit@... | 12/22/08
Not so fast my friend  skcoop | 12/22/08
just installed...  fairportfan | 12/22/08
Thats the way they send them.  mjolnar@... | 12/22/08
same in XP  CWButler | 12/22/08
Jason You're using a Bogus Headline  notsofast | 12/22/08
You are right. It is NOT a Vista issue.  hkommedal | 12/22/08
Vista CAN be a pain, but I SO agree with you, Notsofast...  Jeff Hayes | 12/22/08
Uhmmm . . .  JLHenry | 12/23/08
re: No I did not  rkinne01 | 12/31/08
This is not a Vista only issue.  ShadowGIATL | 02/13/09
PEBKAC  surfasb | 12/22/08
Drivers  Crestview | 12/22/08
Same old title trick  LBiege | 12/17/08
Once again Jason shows us his ignorance.  ye | 12/17/08
This must be a running joke on ZDNet  mikefarinha | 12/18/08
Once Again, The Religious Microsofties Make Excuses  chessmen | 12/22/08
Some of those Fantasy . . .  JLHenry | 12/23/08
Similar to...  joe.smetona@... | 12/27/08
Once again Your Title has ....  ShadeTree | 12/17/08
Where?  daMan25 | 12/17/08
Since you ask  Yagotta B. Kidding | 12/17/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  SamYeager | 12/17/08
I believe you meant HP, not Vista, Jason  GuidingLight | 12/17/08
How to ruin a perfectly good week with Linux  NonZealot | 12/17/08
Re;Oh, and the Linux drivers for this model are just as bad. .  hkommedal | 12/22/08
Re;Oh, and the Linux drivers for this model are just as bad. .  hkommedal | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  Loverock Davidson | 12/17/08
Usually . .  JLHenry | 12/23/08
Serves ya right  RobWLA | 12/17/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with HP  compsrt | 12/17/08
Correct. It is NOT a Vista problem.  hkommedal | 12/22/08
Here are your solutions  mikefarinha | 12/17/08
Alternative  nizuse | 12/17/08
As it was pointed out earlier  GuidingLight | 12/18/08
Well that's just too bad  nizuse | 12/18/08
Wrong again. The HP drivers works very fine on  hkommedal | 12/22/08
Translation...  Crestview | 12/22/08
Wrong again. I use SuSE / openSUSE and my MFDs of  hkommedal | 12/22/08
Just out of curiosity  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 12/17/08
Well, I doubt that...  xuniL_z | 12/18/08
The Scheduler & Auto Update  mikefarinha | 12/18/08
The days of gratuitous Vista bashing  eggmanbubbagee@... | 12/17/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  NStalnecker | 12/17/08
Now, now...  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 12/17/08
The laptop isn't an HP problem.....  todbran@... | 12/18/08
Yes... it was.  Badgered | 12/18/08
Oh but it was  NStalnecker | 12/18/08
The laptop isn't an HP problem.....  Franciscus101 | 12/22/08
The story was about both the Vista Laptop AND the HP. (nt)  hkommedal | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  V@... | 12/18/08
Fedora??  Franciscus101 | 12/22/08
That's just down to user expectation  V@... | 12/23/08
It took him 4 1/2 hours on the Vista laptop....  todbran@... | 12/18/08
It too 4 1/2 hours to correct ....  ShadeTree | 12/18/08
No, I get it....  todbran@... | 12/18/08
Just curious....  Badgered | 12/18/08
Just curious....  Franciscus101 | 12/22/08
Slight correction!  Coldry | 12/23/08
Sounds like a typical Linux problem  GuidingLight | 12/18/08
Sorry - I'm yawning  nizuse | 12/18/08
Ah the master crack and heroin addict is here ...  fr0thy2 | 12/26/08
A "degree in computer science"  Crestview | 12/22/08
Forward thinking companies agree with that ...  fr0thy2 | 12/26/08
4 1/2 hours.......  Badgered | 12/18/08
4.5 hours' cleanup...  dw.needham@... | 12/22/08
re:4.5 hours' cleanup...  Badgered | 12/23/08
Drug addicts.....  daMan25 | 12/18/08
Right on  Crestview | 12/22/08
do you know what...  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 12/18/08
4 1/2 hours...  NStalnecker | 12/18/08
UAC  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 12/18/08
Stupid Vista won't stop root from installing malware  NonZealot | 12/18/08
Ok  NStalnecker | 12/19/08
Hmmm  frgough | 12/18/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  RocketEater | 12/18/08
Mac OS has major "rights" issues  Crestview | 12/22/08
I had buggy HP software for my all-in-one multi...  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 12/18/08
Misleading title  shellcodes_coder | 12/18/08
please show some journalistic integrity and change the title  reverseswing | 12/18/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  mjpaige | 12/18/08
And learns from them.  ye | 12/18/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  daboogiemansass@... | 12/18/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  donj81 | 12/18/08
Sorry...I got Jumpy...lemme finish...  donj81 | 12/18/08
I've said it before....  JoeMama_z | 12/19/08
HP Device Manager works better in Linux  softwareFlunky | 12/19/08
CUPS!  dw.needham@... | 12/22/08
Jason, you're pathetic. Why blame Vista when its your ignorance that gives.  transposeIT | 12/22/08
Don't let it get to you  Badgered | 12/22/08
I hope that was a VERY important customer...  mmoran@... | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  jawebb@... | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  ltsmith | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  JB Tucson | 12/22/08
In my experience, HP software = buggy bloatware  mmoran@... | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  harrisharris | 12/22/08
Why is it always Vista?  reason | 12/22/08
I don't understand what your problems have to do with Vista.  GrizzledGeezer | 12/22/08
Actually, the problem is Vista.  joe.smetona@... | 12/24/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  martinellisis@... | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  bratpak@... | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  frankahilario | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  PBlais | 12/22/08
How to post a complete waste of time  Snarfiorix | 12/22/08
Ubuntu in 30 minutes  Rambo Tribble | 12/22/08
Because is would take months  Crestview | 12/22/08
Relevance?  cgarrett | 12/22/08
It Does Not Necessarily Take Vista to Ruin a Sunday  benoddo | 12/22/08
I have been saying this for years  Crestview | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  SuzCorner | 12/22/08
That's what flat view is for (nt)  sjbinaz | 12/23/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  surfasb | 12/22/08
Notice Vista wasn't the cause of any of your lost time  mthyer | 12/22/08
Agreed, Lay the Blame Where It Belongs  MichP | 12/22/08
Suggestion  heyjohn@... | 12/22/08
Stay away from Vista and your Sundays are yours  johnnydoe1894 | 12/22/08
Same as my Sunday LAST week  escapepod | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  gigaferz | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  ProfQuill | 12/22/08
You need to get a life  Spiritusindomit@... | 12/22/08
In this case, I think HP should be the villian...  D. W. Bierbaum | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  tonyv414 | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  jegs1 | 12/22/08
You are a good man....living in hell.  public@... | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  jleblo1@... | 12/22/08
NOTHING wrong with Vista  jleblo1@... | 12/22/08
re: NOTHING wrong with Vista  Badgered | 12/23/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  dlhertzberg@... | 12/22/08
A Waste of Intelligent Life  dlhertzberg@... | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  msprin007@... | 12/22/08
How I hate Vista, let me count the ways...  mikifinaz1@... | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  raneubauer@... | 12/22/08
Who says Vista is the only time waster?  tedsanderson@... | 12/22/08
Lenux has problesm with 65 bit  schmandel@... | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  lynne1462@... | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  sborsher | 12/22/08
The problem is almost never Vista  jpgeorgia | 12/22/08
Actually, the problem is Vista...  joe.smetona@... | 12/23/08
Been there, Done that! (Pay attention HP)  sobershea@... | 12/22/08
How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with an HP MFD  johnspee5 | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  gennx30 | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  assignor | 12/22/08
RE: How NOT to ruin anymore Sundays  tonyman262 | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  deowll | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  j_richter50@... | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  blackwidow2009 | 12/22/08
Be thankful, Jason...  D2 Ultima | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  dw.needham@... | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  jventoza@... | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  teakilla | 12/22/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  teakilla | 12/23/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  ManoaHI | 12/23/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  b25jpk | 12/23/08
Dump Vista and use a Mac with an Epson MFD  jonathan.greenwood@... | 12/23/08
How to ruin a perftectly good Sunday with "Cheap Equipment"  mindwarp311 | 12/23/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  pbg1 | 12/23/08
Did you check the Thinkpad ?  bruceslog | 12/23/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  jhand47201 | 12/23/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  lukbut_1 | 12/23/08
I know how you feel  ksarkies@... | 12/23/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday  zclayton2 | 12/23/08
Can you...  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 12/23/08
he's right about HP  m38817@... | 12/23/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  gmg.amberg@... | 12/23/08
Sounds like my parents.  bbonis@... | 12/23/08
A clear case of 'Too much knowledge can be a dangerous thing'  V@... | 12/23/08
Like looking in a mirror  Jim from NoVA | 12/23/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  nschlepp@... | 12/23/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  sano1@... | 12/23/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  dziedzicmj | 12/23/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  bgens@... | 12/23/08
Unfair to Vista  bgens@... | 12/23/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  joecool5 | 12/23/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  lloydkuhnle@... | 12/23/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  ehook43 | 12/23/08
Vixta just SUX  gcmckee@... | 12/23/08
re: Vixta just SUX  Badgered | 12/23/08
Not well executed.  escapepod | 12/27/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  ratfret | 12/23/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  IzzuThug | 12/23/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  gsdheman@... | 12/23/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  baltm604 | 12/23/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  ddob01@... | 12/23/08
Hopeless...  wonderbored | 12/23/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  scohrs | 12/23/08
You are way wrong.  joe.smetona@... | 12/24/08
You are way wrong  1djk1 | 12/24/08
About HP and others.  joe.smetona@... | 12/24/08
Still HP  escapepod | 12/27/08
Good point.  joe.smetona@... | 12/28/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  SirCatlord | 12/23/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  andrewvieau@... | 12/23/08
RTFM? All MFD's I have encountered from HP in later years  Beejaybee | 12/24/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  PinkFloydYoshi | 12/26/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  jscstew@... | 12/27/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  MSgtMackel | 12/27/08
Why use CCleaner AND Advanced SystemCare Free ???  notbillgates | 12/29/08
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  SilverEagle_z | 01/04/09
RE: How to ruin a perfectly good Sunday with Windows Vista  mwagner@... | 01/06/09
It does not matter what OS you are using, you'll get days like this.  dpullen@... | 01/06/09
How to run your parents PC  prjroberts | 01/07/09
How Is This Vista's Fault???  plasticframedglasses | 02/14/09

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