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.... calling your colleague a dumbass violates this forums rules. Probably not your finest moment.
Posted by: ShadeTree   Posted on: 07/02/08 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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YES!!!!  James T. Kirk | 07/02/08
Applications ALWAYS install on Windows WITHOUT any sort of problem  fr0thy2 | 07/02/08
Where did he say that? Any chance you could actually...  ye | 07/02/08
Well I'll argue against what he said...  storm14k | 07/02/08
Make that one ...  MisterMiester | 07/02/08
You are correct..  storm14k | 07/02/08
Nothing to do with fr0thy2 post. (nt)  ye | 07/02/08
The original post...  storm14k | 07/02/08
But the OP did not say Windows programs ALWAYS install...  ye | 07/03/08
Firefox for one  bigsibling | 07/07/08
What he said  mjolnar@... | 07/03/08
Stop trying  daengbo | 07/03/08
They might install but to get them running correctly......  atari8bit@... | 07/04/08
For once you are right...well 99% of them do...nt  socialism=nowhere | 07/07/08
Dificult installs are a detriment to Linux  d4rkaine | 07/17/08
Ever heard of the term "DLL hell"?  MisterMiester | 07/02/08
Yeah.  frgough | 07/02/08
Agreed ...  MisterMiester | 07/02/08
The registry is your friend ...  dkawalec | 07/02/08
It's you friend ...  MisterMiester | 07/02/08
lol [nt]  dkawalec | 07/02/08
Just what problems do you keep seeing with the registry?  ye | 07/02/08
Registry garbage  20kwfence | 07/03/08
You didn't answer the question.  ye | 07/03/08
I've had frequent problems with it.  D. W. Bierbaum | 07/03/08
You didn't answer the question either.  ye | 07/03/08
Bad Registry?  zenwalker | 07/06/08
@Dkunzma: Any supporting facts?  ye | 07/06/08
re: I've had frequent problems with it.  Badgered | 07/18/08
agreed  kcredden2 | 07/02/08
DLL hell? Well, I have to admit...  James T. Kirk | 07/02/08
Yes. Though that was, what? 10 years ago?  GuidingLight | 07/02/08
Yes, DLL hell is virus hell, try uninstalling a virus (nt)  n0neXn0ne | 07/02/08
Not as much an issue today with newer Windows Installer  DevGuy_z | 07/02/08
Ever heard of the term "Dependency Hell"?  andrew53 | 07/03/08
Not even close.  daengbo | 07/03/08
Not entirely true  kingttx | 07/07/08
What Were You Using?  daengbo | 07/08/08
If I am not mistaken ....  ShadeTree | 07/02/08
Well ...  MisterMiester | 07/02/08
No advertisements .....  ShadeTree | 07/02/08
Not if you agree to it in the first place  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 07/02/08
Hopefully that is not to say....  xuniL_z | 07/02/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  lawryll@... | 07/02/08
haven't you noticed that most *ix admins have similar attitudes  code_Warrior | 07/02/08
Imagine trying to landscape a hectare of garden  fr0thy2 | 07/02/08
Imagine?  MisterMiester | 07/02/08
Another old China hand ?  mhenriday | 07/03/08
Ah...  frgough | 07/02/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 07/02/08
You need to open your eyes,,,,,,  linux for me | 07/02/08
Hadn't noticed that...  storm14k | 07/02/08
What about *nux systems then?  xuniL_z | 07/02/08
Sure I can enligten you happy  storm14k | 07/03/08
Well, i never intended to......  xuniL_z | 07/07/08
LOL! Sure they don't That's why I didn't just have to reboot...  ye | 07/03/08
User error...  storm14k | 07/03/08
Nope, no user error. Face it Linux isn't perfect.  ye | 07/03/08
I'd hope Im never on a project with YOU  storm14k | 07/02/08
So far I haven't seen much out of him...time will tell. nt  socialism=nowhere | 07/07/08
Developer problem with VMware ...  MisterMiester | 07/02/08
No different in the Windows world  shawn_dude | 07/02/08
Great post  fr0thy2 | 07/02/08
Give me a break.  frgough | 07/02/08
Oh no !!!  MisterMiester | 07/02/08
Yawn.  frgough | 07/02/08
Show me the money ...  MisterMiester | 07/02/08
The OP (shawn_dude) referenced...  ye | 07/03/08
frgough-ting at the mouth again? (nt)  n0neXn0ne | 07/02/08
You might be right...  storm14k | 07/02/08
You've just proved my second point about  frgough | 07/02/08
RE:You've just proved my 3rd point about  n0neXn0ne | 07/02/08
Well you certainly don't scratch a scratch...  storm14k | 07/02/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 07/02/08
Actually - they are  p0figster | 07/03/08
I would beg differ...  socialism=nowhere | 07/07/08
install on linux  stdo57@... | 07/07/08
Getting there ... but still needs work is very accurate - nt  socialism=nowhere | 07/07/08
Open Source software  alaniane@... | 07/07/08
Exactly True  shawn_dude | 07/08/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  alaskareport | 07/02/08
Linux is mainstream dumba$$  fr0thy2 | 07/02/08
keep sailing that river  frgough | 07/02/08
Hobbyist OS?  MisterMiester | 07/02/08
Hobbyist / Expert?  GuidingLight | 07/02/08
This is a Classic ...  MisterMiester | 07/02/08
Clarity is called for here!  GuidingLight | 07/02/08
Different breed of animal ...  MisterMiester | 07/02/08
Thank you, MisterMiester (you too n0neXn0ne)  GuidingLight | 07/02/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 07/02/08
LOL! Yes, Linux User 147560  GuidingLight | 07/02/08
@: GuidingLight, ... light one candle and stop cursing the darkness  n0neXn0ne | 07/02/08
re: Hobbyist / Expert?  deaf_e_kate | 07/02/08
You MUST learn  storm14k | 07/02/08
Comparo for U  Freebird54 | 07/05/08
He was, most likely, refering to  James T. Kirk | 07/02/08
One word....Alien  devlin_X | 07/03/08
easier/simpler to perform installs  k1nj0 | 07/03/08
My experince is a novice...but I would have to disagree...sorry.  socialism=nowhere | 07/07/08
Average user and non-average distro do not mix well  ConcernedReader | 07/06/08
I'm planning on moving from Ubuntu to Suse  socialism=nowhere | 07/07/08
Strawman  frgough | 07/02/08
No you're wrong ...  MisterMiester | 07/02/08
Ridiculous  markbn | 07/02/08
Well let's see ..  MisterMiester | 07/02/08
More "market share" data ...  MisterMiester | 07/02/08
One of these stats is VERY revealing.  xuniL_z | 07/03/08
Stop living in denial  markbn | 07/03/08
MS is a monopoly but it's not entrenched..  eMJayy | 07/04/08
the title of your post says it all  markbn | 07/10/08
Yes, WinME sucked...bigtime.  gypkap@... | 07/03/08
yes, because supercomputers  JamesDoyle | 07/03/08
You dropped your paddle.......  linux for me | 07/02/08
Let's be fair now ...  MisterMiester | 07/02/08
Red hat  frgough | 07/02/08
circular logic alert !  n0neXn0ne | 07/02/08
You are the real loser.....  linux for me | 07/02/08
Linux will never be mainstream for the desktop  marks055@... | 07/02/08
Thank God for that ...  startx.jeff | 07/03/08
But your going against the grain of  socialism=nowhere | 07/07/08
Confusion comes in misuse of word Linux  hamobu | 07/02/08
Ditto  b.bob | 07/02/08
Great points  fr0thy2 | 07/02/08
re: Great points too  n0neXn0ne | 07/02/08
Lots!!!  NetArch. | 07/02/08
Don't forget  k1nj0 | 07/03/08
The difference is  frgough | 07/02/08
Both are Linux. But if Windows is Windows...  Letophoro | 07/02/08
So--..  gypkap@... | 07/03/08
Incompatibilty.  Letophoro | 07/03/08
Not the same  slaskoske | 07/07/08
Good Article  jkohut | 07/02/08
To my mind, jkohut - and others before him - make a valid point :  mhenriday | 07/03/08
Linux dirty secret  croberts | 07/02/08
Windows dirty secret  fr0thy2 | 07/02/08
Put your bible away  croberts | 07/02/08
re: Put your bible away  deaf_e_kate | 07/02/08
re: Put your bible away  Joe Dufflebag | 07/03/08
BINGO!....right on the money. Shhh don't  socialism=nowhere | 07/07/08
This was about linux...and Linux has a ton of  socialism=nowhere | 07/07/08
You were right up to a point.  storm14k | 07/02/08
You forgot binary imcompatibility  NetArch. | 07/02/08
I really believe...  storm14k | 07/02/08
BIG ++ (nt)  kingttx | 07/07/08
Alien..  20kwfence | 07/03/08
Thank you for sharing the truth...  storm14k | 07/03/08
"Even" Gentoo?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 07/02/08
RE: Rage against Linux package differences  21_years_IT | 07/02/08
You wish has been granted!  devlin_X | 07/03/08
I will never understand...  storm14k | 07/03/08
I know of one  kingttx | 07/07/08
SuSE handles RPM really nicely.  bjbrock | 07/02/08
You gotta be Kidding?  jpr75_z | 07/02/08
re: You gotta be Kidding?  deaf_e_kate | 07/02/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  DannyO_0x98 | 07/02/08
We have a "Slider" ...  MisterMiester | 07/02/08
Adrian's point was that it should be easy....  doublefrangelico | 07/02/08
When we read...  jasonp@... | 07/02/08
re: Adrian's point was that it 'should be easy'....  n0neXn0ne | 07/02/08
So you're saying ...  dkawalec | 07/02/08
RE: So you're saying ...  n0neXn0ne | 07/02/08
should be easier  slaskoske | 07/07/08
It IS easy...  storm14k | 07/02/08
Regular users....  warf33 | 07/03/08
...understand perfectly...  storm14k | 07/03/08
if you install from repositories  A.Lizard | 07/07/08
My Distro of Choice  D. T. Schmitz | 07/02/08
Have to wonder who actually read the article  wilryder70 | 07/02/08
The real dumbass ...  dkawalec | 07/02/08
Do you really understand the install process?  storm14k | 07/02/08
Where's the value in building in difficulty?  dkawalec | 07/02/08
Who's building difficulty?  storm14k | 07/02/08
You proved Adrian's point  Spats30 | 07/02/08
Not gonna happen.  frgough | 07/02/08
It had already happened.  storm14k | 07/02/08
That is the point...  warf33 | 07/03/08
Have you actually tried it?  storm14k | 07/03/08
Repository != standardized install  wolf_z | 07/03/08
I missed the Mac/Windows repository happy  storm14k | 07/03/08
At last some common sense comments  craiglarry | 07/11/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  dwr50 | 07/02/08
Ubunti is NOT Linux !  j.dupont | 07/02/08
Please stop the distro wars.  storm14k | 07/02/08
And...  SpikeyMike | 07/02/08
I did not start a distro war.  j.dupont | 07/02/08
Whats unfair...  storm14k | 07/03/08
Don't blame the user!  HooNoze | 07/02/08
Don't blame the OS.  storm14k | 07/02/08
It's the environment  HooNoze | 07/02/08
Kernel vs distro  storm14k | 07/03/08
Perception of usability  HooNoze | 07/03/08
Don't believe them...  storm14k | 07/03/08
What's an average user?  craiglarry | 07/11/08
FYI  n0neXn0ne | 07/02/08
Users confused over rpm and deb?  MisterMiester | 07/02/08
You just taught me something.  storm14k | 07/02/08
Learned from years of Windows use ...  MisterMiester | 07/02/08
Learend behaviour is hard to shake..  storm14k | 07/03/08
Seriously flawed list  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 07/02/08
In the same context as Linux ...  MisterMiester | 07/02/08
Another way of explaining it.  hamobu | 07/02/08
120 and rising  pjotr123 | 07/02/08
OK, Ok if we're going for 300 I'm in...  Mac Hosehead | 07/03/08
The greatest enemy is within...  brettz9 | 07/02/08
Hopefully a helpful reaction  pjotr123 | 07/02/08
Great site!  eMJayy | 07/04/08
Thanks  brettz9 | 07/05/08
Idiots and Abuse [This most most likely to be ignored]  Kaiwai | 07/02/08
My reaction was exactly the same as Adrian's.  tracy anne | 07/02/08
Similar experience..  storm14k | 07/03/08
Do we need form a concerted effort to make Linux applications  kcredden2 | 07/02/08
Not intended to be a flame  *nixFan | 07/03/08
Thanks for that (Tracy)!  zkiwi | 07/02/08
Good article I'm working on my Linux skills  marks055@... | 07/02/08
Typo  CreepinJesus | 07/03/08
RTFM  baalpeteor | 07/03/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  steven.quinn@... | 07/03/08
The Reality  wizardb@... | 07/03/08
RE:Reality is ?  n0neXn0ne | 07/03/08
I smell b.s.  20kwfence | 07/03/08
Reality is...  storm14k | 07/03/08
Actually I have what I need  wizardb@... | 07/08/08
Linux is not windows  ardnivar | 07/03/08
RE: Linux != Windows  n0neXn0ne | 07/03/08
Exactly!  HooNoze | 07/03/08
News for you...  gypkap@... | 07/03/08
RE:News for you... too  n0neXn0ne | 07/03/08
Command line installs?  HooNoze | 07/03/08
Sifting through the problems...  storm14k | 07/03/08
Chasing of wild geese  HooNoze | 07/03/08
Glad you had a look.  storm14k | 07/03/08
Wow! I thought I was reading one of my posts about Vista.  ye | 07/04/08
And that's the kind of arrogant attitude...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 07/03/08
well, you have 3 options...  n0neXn0ne | 07/03/08
you are old hat linux geek  craiglarry | 07/05/08
Re: Linux is not windows  slaskoske | 07/07/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  stevenpowers@... | 07/03/08
RE: "EXPERT" Rage against Adrian  bsaunders43 | 07/03/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  gettinoriginal2@... | 07/03/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  warf33 | 07/03/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  BobK Linux Noob | 07/03/08
Hey.. Don't dis toasters happy  *nixFan | 07/03/08
Software Installation and Virtualization  chaz6 | 07/03/08
Back 2 Windows  willem@... | 07/03/08
LInux Newbies  scot_c@... | 07/03/08
Issues with Linux mindset  gribblq | 07/03/08
RE: Linux Installs  joelovett | 07/03/08
Sometimes Adrian is a *****.  LazLong | 07/03/08
re. Sometimes Adrian is a *****.  joelovett | 07/07/08
Perception or Misperception?  LazLong | 07/09/08
Why keep blaming Linux?  rarsa | 07/03/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  trenchsol | 07/03/08
Make Linux easier to install. I already did but no one is listening to me.  usarcomputertec | 07/03/08
What about Novell Client for Linux ?  modicr@... | 07/03/08
Seems simple ...  MisterMiester | 07/03/08
Only for (Open)Suse  modicr@... | 07/03/08
You're right ...  MisterMiester | 07/03/08
Novell's fault according to this post ...  MisterMiester | 07/03/08
... but why they say "for Linux"?  modicr@... | 07/05/08
What are we talking about here?  LazLong | 07/03/08
Novell NetWare and Novell Open Enterprise Server  modicr@... | 07/03/08
Average User Doesn't Like This BS.....  Narg | 07/03/08
Linux reminds me of DOS  dragon@... | 07/03/08
(deleted)  modicr@... | 07/03/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  JamesDoyle | 07/03/08
Grow up!  BobK Linux Noob | 07/04/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  joelovett | 07/07/08
A great start.  kozmcrae | 07/03/08
Now you should be one closer to that 300 mark!  EdNetman | 07/03/08
Even Software from the Repositories causes Problems  winthropyu | 07/03/08
RE: Rage against Adrian--shooting the messenger....  pgf_666@... | 07/03/08
You FAIL at calling Adrian FAIL  supercharlie | 07/04/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  joeowens | 07/04/08
For Joe Owens  TtfnJohn | 07/04/08
Jason, do you realize that guys like you are Microsoft's best friend?  georgeou | 07/04/08
Murph is Brilliant!  tshinder@... | 07/04/08
Sorry to have to disagree, but...  jrbales@... | 07/05/08
Well, I said Jason is great at swinging the fence sitters  georgeou | 07/05/08
With all due respect  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 07/05/08
Good summation (nt)  n0neXn0ne | 07/05/08
I suggest that was your motivation  georgeou | 07/06/08
george ou, lesson learned..  n0neXn0ne | 07/05/08
Get a clue, you don't know anything about me  georgeou | 07/06/08
? Why did you...  n0neXn0ne | 07/06/08
RE:georgeou, guys like you were Microsoft's best friend?  n0neXn0ne | 07/05/08
I said I was a tech columnist, not a biblical figure  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 07/05/08
Why don't you tell us what you do for a living tough guy?  georgeou | 07/06/08
It should be obvious I'm not a Vista consultant wink (nt)  n0neXn0ne | 07/06/08
Well that's good news for the Vista Users...nt  socialism=nowhere | 07/07/08
Learn to read  georgeou | 07/07/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  tshinder@... | 07/04/08
I just want a system that works  bobharrison2002@... | 07/05/08
ADRIAN HAD A STUPID POINT  pashok99 | 07/05/08
RE: Some people need specific programs  jfsayre@... | 07/05/08
re:... need specific programs?  n0neXn0ne | 07/05/08
re; some people need specific programs  pauluc | 07/05/08
Yes and no. Two ways forward: one-click-install vs. Berlin packaging API.  dank@... | 07/05/08
Good Idea  jperlow ZDNet Moderator | 07/06/08
Now that makes sense - good luck...nt  socialism=nowhere | 07/07/08
This is exactly what we need  wizardb@... | 07/13/08
Each Distro is a Unique System  stomfi@... | 07/06/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  The Rifleman | 07/06/08
YES...John E Whad said it best...  socialism=nowhere | 07/07/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  slaskoske | 07/07/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  Ceridan | 07/07/08
Yep, Biggest Problem with Linux  chris@... | 07/07/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  twodoorsup | 07/07/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  Ronin69 | 07/07/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  dschmutz@... | 07/07/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  lostinspace | 07/07/08
The real problem isn't with Windows or Linux.  simond@... | 07/07/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  Roger Davis | 07/07/08
Adrian's VMWare Linux Experience  rosewood_arts@... | 07/07/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  GameOvR | 07/07/08
You got your talkback quota on this one.  bjbrock | 07/08/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  philargyry | 07/08/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  bb_apptix | 07/08/08
well  larsalt | 07/08/08
I actualy think it's almost a compliment  larsalt | 07/08/08
Linux VS Windows  as901 | 07/13/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  sydpdx | 07/19/08
Wells and ZDNet Licked by 1-Click  jabailo1 | 07/21/08
RE: Rage against Adrian  rMatey | 01/27/09

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