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But they DID break the law
music piracy is illegal, and there's no way to justify their illegal acts- they shouldn't have broken the law in the first place.

Or am I being heartless sad
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If Poland Springs can get people to buy water...  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
RIAA members are idiots, and here's why...  BillDem | 02/18/09
Same here.  AzuMao | 02/18/09
AMEN BROTHER!!!  moralesjl15@... | 02/19/09
agreed  adr5@... | 02/19/09
RIAA/  timnc13@... | 02/19/09
My sentiments exactly...  JCitizen | 02/19/09
I also stopped buying...  rpotter@... | 02/23/09
RIAA  NStalnecker | 02/16/09
Copyright laws?  rshores | 02/16/09
Laws you say?  Mectron | 02/16/09
I completely agree  mabho | 02/18/09
what law/s are they breaking?  adr5@... | 02/19/09
Due process? Fourth amendment? Fifth amendment? Ring any bells??  AzuMao | 09/01/09
No  NStalnecker | 02/16/09
Copying is not stealing  Rubix_z | 02/18/09
Copying is not stealing  nicey1966 | 02/19/09
Re: Copying is not stealing  tzcannon | 02/19/09
Wrong! You ARE a Thief!  Bob C User | 02/19/09
It is not a form of theft  roaming | 02/19/09
Actually I'm just sarcastic  tzcannon | 02/22/09
Uh oh  AzuMao | 03/01/09
I really hope...  sccaldwell | 08/31/09
Your "logic" is warped...try this analogy  sccaldwell | 08/31/09
Sorry to burst you bubble but..  AzuMao | 09/01/09
sorry to burst YOUR bubble  dgralick | 10/31/09
Bad comparison there dgralick.  AzuMao | 11/01/09
sorry, you are wrong.  adr5@... | 02/19/09
Actually, he/she is right  roaming | 02/19/09
*IF* The Musicians & Artists....  madrucke@... | 02/18/09
New model...  JCitizen | 02/19/09
How times change...  williamacole@... | 02/18/09
If I remember correctly...  JCitizen | 02/19/09
Re: Copyright laws?  gclanman | 02/18/09
greed  jackfred | 02/18/09
open source is free like a puppy is free  bbbbill | 02/18/09
When the last time you've tried a *nix based OS?  AzuMao | 02/18/09
wrong  bbbbill | 02/20/09
If you say so.  AzuMao | 02/24/09
the clue is in the question....  paul_bruford@... | 02/19/09
OK, sure  bbbbill | 02/20/09
re: OK, sure  Isocrates | 02/20/09
software/music usage  dhays | 02/24/09
So basically what you're saying  AzuMao | 03/01/09
to screw or get screwed  paul_bruford@... | 02/19/09
Exactly...(NT)  JCitizen | 02/19/09
Here's the difference  cfostel | 02/19/09
I think it was Woody Guthrie  TranMan | 02/19/09
He made his point...  JCitizen | 02/19/09
You're comparing Apps and Oranges  Metronome49 | 02/19/09
Radio Head may be free, but I still contribute..  JCitizen | 02/19/09
"Don't want to"?  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Record companies don't develop...  markanthonymartin | 10/26/09
So, I guess your employer can say to you...  MGP2 | 02/16/09
Haha  NStalnecker | 02/16/09
If you want to give YOUR music away...  MGP2 | 02/16/09
Sharing and stealing  williamacole@... | 02/18/09
Sharing and Stealing  jjbiener@... | 02/18/09
Actually, he isn't.  AzuMao | 02/18/09
Better watch out, Azu  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/18/09
Service not knowledge  williamacole@... | 02/26/09
Except that the RIAA..  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Music is not a thought or an idea, it's a product  tzcannon | 02/19/09
Media and mind  williamacole@... | 02/26/09
So what you're saying is that  John Zern | 02/16/09
no  kevinrs1 | 02/17/09
Only the big artists make money  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/18/09
At least you...  jjbiener@... | 02/18/09
If you believe all that crap you said...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/18/09
record, mix, promote, and distribute  paul_bruford@... | 02/19/09
So wait...  LeeC | 02/18/09
It's a figure of speech.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Nothing for nothing  Pimlico Kid | 02/17/09
They live on concert & ticket sales and direct downloads  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/18/09
who said free?  paul_bruford@... | 02/19/09
You do know  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Agree in principle, but...  sccaldwell | 08/31/09
But they DID break the law  codmedia | 02/16/09
...and they suborned Congress to break the law  cjcoats | 02/16/09
AMEN!  madrucke@... | 02/18/09
Not sure about heartless, but  clfitz | 02/16/09
I agree  NStalnecker | 02/16/09
It's not about IP, it's about sales  nicey1966 | 02/19/09
I notice you mentioned nothing about the other half of the law.  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
Aren't your exaggerations a little ....  ShadeTree | 02/16/09
Does the law give the RIAA permission to extend copyright law?  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
Over the top?  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
You'll get no sympathy here, ShadeTree  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/18/09
"pursuing remedies"?  AzuMao | 09/01/09
You're kidding, right?  MGP2 | 02/16/09
Thank you for your research.  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
I'm not saying the RIAA is right...  MGP2 | 02/16/09
About all this chopping business.  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
The kids did not create the music download revolution.  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
They don't prosecute the gun makers in murder cases...  MGP2 | 02/16/09
What actions are you talking about?  kozmcrae | 02/17/09
Nice talk, Koz...  MGP2 | 02/17/09
Re: MGP2  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Whom do you speak for MGP2  Thguns | 02/18/09
I believe you are the kidder  outpostprime | 02/19/09
Actually...  jjbiener@... | 02/18/09
Ya..  AzuMao | 09/01/09
What is piracy?  Jay_BG | 02/18/09
The RIAA's definition or the dictionary definition?  AzuMao | 02/18/09
Agreed  Average-IT-Guy | 02/19/09
Killing the music?..  JCitizen | 02/19/09
If the person in question ....  ShadeTree | 02/16/09
I agree it's not like copying for a friend, but  clfitz | 02/16/09
Proportionality!  ShadeTree | 02/16/09
I don't know, and I DO see you point.  clfitz | 02/16/09
It is not the kids that get sued.  ShadeTree | 02/16/09
Kids by definition cannot be sued.  ShadeTree | 02/16/09
Easy for you to say  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/18/09
re: Proportionality!  none none | 02/16/09
The scenario is very ....  ShadeTree | 02/16/09
Just because ShadeTree says so  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/18/09
Fail  AzuMao | 09/01/09
P2P networks...  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
Yes!  adelacuesta | 02/18/09
If I speed, can I whine about the cops chasing me?  spark555 | 02/16/09
Nobody's whining about enforcement, really.  clfitz | 02/16/09
arm amputation?  spark555 | 02/16/09
I didn't say anyone did, just using it for comparison purposes. NT  clfitz | 02/16/09
Can't compare if it's nothing that's happening  spark555 | 02/16/09
How many items could one shoplift in 30 minutes?  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
It is not the downloader they are after.  ShadeTree | 02/16/09
I wish they would go after the download services.  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
If youre using google  adelacuesta | 02/18/09
It's a fine comparison.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
When the cop pulls you over.  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
did anyone get the crap beaten out of them?  spark555 | 02/16/09
Did anyone get the crap beat out of them?  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
explain it to me  spark555 | 02/16/09
Because there isn't even any proof.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Are you retarded?  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Shoplifting isn't bank-robbery, but it is a crime  spark555 | 02/16/09
You sure do. But the fine is less, and most  clfitz | 02/16/09
Shoplifting isn't bank robbery.  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
But wouldn't this whole argument be a moot point  John Zern | 02/16/09
yep  spark555 | 02/16/09
It would be a moot point.  kozmcrae | 02/17/09
I just feel it is stupid and pointless...  JCitizen | 02/19/09
Maybe because  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over corporate bullying tactics  spark555 | 02/16/09
That's the whole issue  MGP2 | 02/16/09
What difference to anyone except the consumer does it make  AzuMao | 09/01/09
$500 min for 1st time shoplifting  spark555 | 02/16/09
re: $500 min for 1st time shoplifting  none none | 02/16/09
Fine - have the shoplifter steal video games  spark555 | 02/16/09
You don't get it  none none | 02/16/09
"Just bits" - ok, lend me access to your biz net  spark555 | 02/16/09
If his business normally sells that stuff to whoever wants it, for $10, ok.  AzuMao | 02/24/09
So how is it that no one lost anything?  John Zern | 02/16/09
No loss  erikswanson | 02/18/09
And many organizations give books away for free..  JCitizen | 02/19/09
Where's this assumption of "instead" come to?  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Crime and Punishment.  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
that was exactly the point I was making  spark555 | 02/16/09
The point is.  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
OK, but now you know, right?  MGP2 | 02/16/09
I don't give a rat's ass about music.  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
Once again, I love it....  MGP2 | 02/16/09
Here's a good way to get people to stop stealing songs  John Zern | 02/16/09
Sorry, MGP2, I can't agree  John Zern | 02/16/09
Pass a law?  kozmcrae | 02/16/09
@koz: Let me see if I'm reading you correctly...  MGP2 | 02/17/09
@MGP2  kozmcrae | 02/17/09
Um, lawyers' fees?  MGP2 | 02/17/09
re: Um, lawyers' fees?  Isocrates | 02/20/09
Re: MGP2  AzuMao | 09/01/09
I don't even like the RIAA  spark555 | 02/16/09
Ya.... no.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Here's what's wrong..  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: $500 min for 1st time shoplifting  oldbaritone | 02/19/09
Somehow, I manage to pay for my music  spark555 | 02/16/09
Somehow, all of the Austrians in Germany managed to not be Jews.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
sounds kinda like.... traffic enforcement  spark555 | 02/16/09
Look a little closer  the gremlin | 02/18/09
No comparison.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Just bits....  Mr_Wizard | 02/17/09
Maybe the "just bits" people should check this out...  MGP2 | 02/17/09
If you stole 694,000 cars..  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over corporate bullying tactics  Phantom.si | 02/17/09
some just don't get it...  upit | 02/17/09
Prosecute The Record Companys!  Peter.mitchell@... | 02/17/09
Who doesn't get it?  oldbaritone | 02/19/09
If what we're buying is the IP, not the media..  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Change the law  Dr_Zinj | 02/17/09
partly right...  upit | 02/17/09
Atrocious comparisons.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
What the heck are you talking about?  the gremlin | 02/18/09
Woops! Ignore...posted in wrong spot  MGP2 | 02/17/09
the battle  midenginedrift | 02/17/09
RIAA Bullying comes to more than punishing crimes  kevinrs1 | 02/17/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  robe@... | 02/18/09
Hell ya!  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  frotty | 02/18/09
If you're not going to buy it either way  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Their business model is dying and they don't know what to do  rarsa | 02/18/09
What about proportionality?  rarsa | 02/18/09
The person didn't do anything to the artist.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  Ashtonian | 02/18/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  olddogv | 02/18/09
Broadcasts are public domain?  dgrainge | 02/18/09
They can't.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  shanedr | 02/18/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  jrcel@... | 02/18/09
its organised crime!  walkerjian@... | 02/18/09
This is a MORAL issue  dgrainge | 02/18/09
where will I buy music?  walkerjian@... | 02/18/09
From the artist?  jjbiener@... | 02/18/09
how to find?  walkerjian@... | 02/19/09
a dumb idea...  walkerjian@... | 02/18/09
A good idea!  Isocrates | 02/20/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  mydesktopworks | 02/18/09
Excuse me, but...  Isocrates | 02/20/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  wcosales@... | 02/18/09
Nope  AzuMao | 09/01/09
If, (IF), the law was broken....  El Condor | 02/18/09
Yee haw!  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  psiEnergos | 02/18/09
But that's what they want  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Put simply: **** THE RIAA  butler360 | 02/18/09
Most of you people are messed up in the morals lobe  Timpraetor | 02/18/09
Huh?  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  AlisaK2000@... | 02/18/09
Boycott the corrupt and evil Record Company cartel!  Dr. K | 02/18/09
BAN RIAA for eternity  Gradius2 | 02/18/09
Lawyers  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Didn't the RIAA drop the lawsuits?  erikswanson | 02/18/09
Years ago...  cdadave83814@... | 02/18/09
Seriously?  jjbiener@... | 02/18/09
Well good  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/18/09
Simple solution  jjbiener@... | 02/19/09
I'm afraid life isn't that simple  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/19/09
Simple question  AzuMao | 09/01/09
And, your interest is?  Isocrates | 02/20/09
Why do you assume  AzuMao | 09/01/09
But this IS their life.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  jhand47201 | 02/18/09
I use every chance I can to...  mikifinaz1@... | 02/18/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  markw53 | 02/18/09
You might want to take a look outside of the MTV channel, then.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  bill_kananen@... | 02/18/09
No..  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  1031982 | 02/18/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  dgralick | 02/18/09
Not okay to steal it.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Suicide? Wait a minute . . .  stantonreg | 02/18/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  PeterPac | 02/18/09
That would work..  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  qbit9 | 02/18/09
You get the money  AzuMao | 09/01/09
victory uber alles . . .  bob@... | 02/18/09
Victory or Survival?  jjbiener@... | 02/18/09
No, they don't get to. Nor do they want to.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  RichH1606@... | 02/18/09
The future is here  jjbiener@... | 02/18/09
Sorry, you've got it backwards.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Music companies are actually stealing  rhon@... | 02/18/09
Suicide threats are ...  archetuthus | 02/19/09
Suicide threats are...  archetuthus | 02/19/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  paul_bruford@... | 02/19/09
Many points here.....  p.vinnie@... | 02/19/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  vaughanm | 02/19/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  marc_90292@... | 02/19/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  john.foggitt@... | 02/19/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  raven1350@... | 02/19/09
RE: If Poland Springs can sell water...  ca1ic0cat | 02/19/09
RE: but they did break the law  ca1ic0cat | 02/19/09
Don't make comparisons like that.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
How about giving the RIAA a taste of their own medicine?  trust2112@... | 02/19/09
The problem is  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RIAA should go away  morgan66 | 02/19/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  rwill | 02/19/09
At least he tried (and succeeded) in making points..  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  kevsan | 02/19/09
hmmm, so i play an mp3 in my car  walkerjian@... | 02/19/09
According to the RIAA..  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Legal user of media  kenmacallister | 02/19/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  mmagliaro | 02/19/09
Yawn  mrohwohlt@... | 02/19/09
Yawn.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
Support content producers and cut out these groups!  Breetai | 02/19/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  mrohwohlt@... | 02/19/09
Kids CAN use open source  ljdellar@... | 02/19/09
What You Don't Know About Music Companies  tomcgpenton | 02/19/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  houstontechnology6@... | 02/19/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  rwmiller@... | 02/19/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  jupiterick | 02/19/09
Any Wealthy group can do that. IE: Doctors and Insurance Ind. In Texas  invmgr@... | 02/20/09
Does that mean  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RIAA has one foot in the grave.  public@... | 02/20/09
Who is the thief and who is their victim?  Isocrates | 02/20/09
Wow! Now that makes sense!  jnkmail@... | 02/21/09
Confession is...  Isocrates | 02/23/09
Just a little fix of your comparison to make it relevent to the discussion  AzuMao | 02/24/09
Horrible analogy!  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  jhencken | 02/21/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  jnkmail@... | 02/21/09
????  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  dkuhnwald@... | 02/26/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  tre51@... | 02/28/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  dgralick | 03/14/09
"but you can't go out and build Pontiacs and sell them"  AzuMao | 03/15/09
You can give your Pontiac away  dgralick | 03/16/09
Please clarify  AzuMao | 03/17/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  dgralick | 03/16/09
"At which time I suspect there will be a lot fewer great songs being record  AzuMao | 03/17/09
So the ones making great songs will get rich.  dgralick | 03/19/09
Who said anything about re-distributing?  AzuMao | 03/21/09
re-distributing  dgralick | 03/22/09
Oh brother  AzuMao | 04/01/09
What's so hard to understand?  dgralick | 04/01/09
I'm not advocating anything being changed.  AzuMao | 04/04/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  vdude8 | 04/22/09
so confused  dgralick | 04/24/09
Good job at completely evading his questions.  AzuMao | 09/01/09
test  mgp3 | 07/28/09
Hmm..  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  sccaldwell | 08/31/09
Weird interpretation of the law there  AzuMao | 09/01/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  sccaldwell | 08/31/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  mcp123 | 10/26/09
meant to be  dgralick | 10/27/09
It was meant to be that media enter the public domain after creator's death  AzuMao | 10/27/09
Time to change the copy law  Altotus | 10/30/09
time for me to find another job  dgralick | 10/31/09
RE: Student suicide threat over RIAA bullying tactics  dgralick | 11/01/09
That's making an awful lot of assumptions;  AzuMao | 11/02/09
making assumptions  dgralick | 11/02/09
Nope  AzuMao | 11/03/09
"HECK" yeah!  tombutler | 11/04/09
talent  dgralick | 11/06/09

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