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What is a user to do????  DonnieBoy | 10/21/08
One word.  Sleeper Service | 10/21/08
Agreed, NO Windows.  DonnieBoy | 10/21/08
Until you get a large enough market share  mdemuth | 10/21/08
Market share or none...  storm14k | 10/21/08
(Yawn) $10 eBay router, best firewall  Seamus O'Brog | 10/23/08
Not so fast swifty  madirish2600 | 10/24/08
That old nonsense?  kozmcrae | 10/21/08
Uninformed  TedKraan | 10/22/08
Until you get a large enough market share  Thempleton | 10/22/08
Market-share  alqualunde@... | 10/22/08
Ignorance  sir4taye@... | 10/22/08
Your crystal ball has as many holes in it  Ole Man | 10/22/08
Okay, my pupil..  TedKraan | 10/23/08
[rolling eyes] "can you say . . .  brian ansorge | 10/23/08
ZZZZZzzzz - stupidity is boring....nt  USTechHead | 10/22/08
On word:  Anne O'Neimaus | 10/22/08
Unless  AzuMao | 10/27/08
What a bunch of clueless idiots  Mectron | 10/23/08
Yes devil  Linux User 147560 | 10/21/08
Culture Minds ...  daboochmeister | 11/06/08
better "one word"  TG2 | 11/13/08
Sweet  AzuMao | 11/14/08
Enough already!  Flying Pig | 10/21/08
Best case?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/21/08
Living in paradise...  tgilbert@... | 10/21/08
Some places won't be able to run Linux  markdean | 10/21/08
Even then SOME PEOPLE CAN'T USE LINUX  library assistant | 10/21/08
Send a check?  kozmcrae | 10/21/08
So are you buying?  library assistant | 10/21/08
another troll  do it yourself IT | 10/21/08
You have it backasswards.  kozmcrae | 10/21/08
You guys are missing the point... Epic FAIL...  Wolfie2K3 | 10/22/08
@wolfie2k3: Ouch  TedKraan | 10/22/08
85 hours x $100/hr = $85,000 ? ? ? ?  michael.detroit@... | 10/22/08
You'd better hope your boss don't read that, Wolfie2K3  Ole Man | 10/22/08
@Wolfie  User07734 | 10/23/08
Ever heard of competition?  Ole Man | 10/21/08
Well said.  kozmcrae | 10/21/08
Ok... So what you're really saying here...  Wolfie2K3 | 10/22/08
Have you looked at Linux??  BryanReyn | 10/22/08
...the Fittest  Q'sDad | 10/22/08
Wolfie, u may be a Windoze Whizz BUT(T).....  btljooz | 10/22/08
Go back and read what I said, s...l...o...w....l...y...  Ole Man | 10/22/08
"first Windows . . . "  brian ansorge | 10/23/08
Message has been deleted.  EmperorDarius | 10/22/08
We don't need any help.  kozmcrae | 10/22/08
Who is it holding a gun to your head?  Ole Man | 10/22/08
Suggestions you want.  TripleII | 10/21/08
Agreed.  AzuMao | 10/27/08
Thinking about Wine and Accountants....  SaipanMan95 | 10/22/08
Quickbooks equivalent in Linux  btljooz | 10/22/08
PS:  btljooz | 10/22/08
You're wrong. Most won't.  Flying Pig | 10/22/08
News for you  daengbo | 10/23/08
Just see what happens if Linux were as popular as Windows...  kozmcrae | 10/21/08
Correction  daengbo | 10/23/08
Indeed correct  TedKraan | 10/23/08
semantics  User07734 | 10/23/08
windows IS multi-session... kinda...  robsku | 10/23/08
rewrite windows?  robsku | 10/23/08
False statement.  TripleII | 10/21/08
Interesting idea  TedKraan | 10/22/08
Couple of links.  TripleII | 10/22/08
Try working in the REAL world of IT  Flying Pig | 10/22/08
sad  gertruded | 10/22/08
Not Sad At All  Flying Pig | 10/22/08
Then use a VM or upgrade to Vista.  TripleII | 10/22/08
Actually, we are  Flying Pig | 10/22/08
Re: Try working in the REAL world of IT.  hkommedal | 10/22/08
You are right!  Ole Man | 10/22/08
The key word is "mainly"  Flying Pig | 10/23/08
I don't know, but you just may have locked yourself down  Ole Man | 10/22/08
Been there, read that (with addendum)  Flying Pig | 10/23/08
Ahhh, yes, now I see  Ole Man | 10/23/08
"Amen and Amen" from a Linux user  Seamus O'Brog | 10/23/08
Under the Radar  JsloNt@... | 10/21/08
In some sense, yes  markdean | 10/21/08
Patently FALSE...  SpikeyMike | 10/21/08
Don't you mean  TedKraan | 10/22/08
Patently  daengbo | 10/23/08
If you have  TedKraan | 10/22/08
FUD  gertruded | 10/22/08
Linux uhh no big NO!  JR2012 | 10/21/08
Hey!  kozmcrae | 10/21/08
Nawww!  Ole Man | 10/21/08
Uh, yes is what you were looking for  zkiwi | 10/21/08
You would be the first.  TripleII | 10/21/08
Good post  TedKraan | 10/22/08
will wine run the spyware?  nazcalito | 10/21/08
Yes  TedKraan | 10/22/08
WINE & spyware  robsku | 10/23/08
Or learn how to admin a Windows box...  Confused by religion | 10/21/08
Yes... but no.  magallanes | 10/22/08
LOL - thank you...cha-ching...nt  USTechHead | 10/22/08
Better word...Jail  Modgirl | 10/22/08
Far be it from me...  Anne O'Neimaus | 10/22/08
" Security is mostly superstition. It does not exist in nature"  Ole Man | 10/22/08
Wow!  Ole Man | 10/22/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  Telix | 10/21/08
Ok, agreed, OpenBSD is more secure.  DonnieBoy | 10/21/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  Loverock Davidson | 10/21/08
Have to agree  frgough | 10/21/08
two years or so out of date, sorry  rousta_bout@... | 10/21/08
Dial-up users can be safe...  Anton Philidor | 10/21/08
Protection for dial-up users  kwwall@... | 10/22/08
You're absolutely correct...  LiquidLearner | 10/21/08
No doubt!  daMan25 | 10/21/08
you ought to read the article  rousta_bout@... | 10/21/08
Like we are going to believe you over the New York Times?! LOL  Linux User 147560 | 10/21/08
I agree with Loverock...  Mahegan | 10/21/08
Yup.  joe.smetona@... | 10/21/08
Because...  ye | 10/21/08
I don't use Vista, but...  joe.smetona@... | 10/21/08
Will you be the first one to...  ye | 10/21/08
Windows had to change from the ground up.  joe.smetona@... | 10/21/08
I didn't see any explanation as to...  ye | 10/21/08
OK Here's 3 off the top of my head:  markdean | 10/21/08
BZZT! Care to try again?  ye | 10/21/08
@ye: Okay  TedKraan | 10/22/08
@TedKraan: Just what is this supposed to prove?  ye | 10/22/08
@ye: Spot the differences:  TedKraan | 10/22/08
ELF  daengbo | 10/23/08
So about that 5 minute thing?  zkiwi | 10/21/08
As is usual it's outdated information.  ye | 10/21/08
So...  zkiwi | 10/21/08
The five minute average is referring to XP systems pre-SP2  ye | 10/22/08
Ah well...  zkiwi | 10/22/08
how come there are all those botnets.  deowll | 10/21/08
Applications  TedKraan | 10/22/08
Attack vectors come from even the unsuspected sources  mystic100 | 10/22/08
OMG - real world?  waltmaine | 10/21/08
I think the study you are refering to...  deowll | 10/21/08
The real problem  TedKraan | 10/22/08
"no chance"? I'd dare say that is too broad a brush  markdean | 10/21/08
Baby steps Loverock...  kozmcrae | 10/21/08
Trouble is, once you click "I agree" to your EULA  Ole Man | 10/21/08
Mr Davidson  TedKraan | 10/22/08
This is what I would do  mystic100 | 10/22/08
That's an option  TedKraan | 10/23/08
so what's a user to do?  elllroy | 10/21/08
Don't you wish it was that easy  Zeddd | 10/21/08
The only problem with that argument...  storm14k | 10/21/08
Ah ... the solution at last?  tgilbert@... | 10/21/08
For once your sarcasm hit the spot  Ole Man | 10/21/08
Who's reading my logs?  tgilbert@... | 10/22/08
As a PC gamer  TedKraan | 10/22/08
attempt to DOS them off the internet since its all they can do.  deowll | 10/21/08
So there is a HOPE diamond...  arminw | 10/21/08
Think of malware as a bull in a pasture  Ole Man | 10/21/08
All three were vulnerable to that hack.  kozmcrae | 10/21/08
Correction -- Linux machine not compromised  daengbo | 10/23/08
don't be ridiculous  library assistant | 10/21/08
Hey Microsoft.  kozmcrae | 10/21/08
I'd love to tell Microsoft  library assistant | 10/21/08
They have the best and highest paid, you won't tell them anything.  kozmcrae | 10/22/08
Time to infection is less than five minutes  3D0G | 10/21/08
From the article:  ye | 10/21/08
5 Minute quote came from MS  j.m.galvin | 10/21/08
But he was spot on when he said...  ye | 10/21/08
Wrong.  macoafi | 10/21/08
He was quoting the number given in the article.  ye | 10/21/08
Agreed, but  daengbo | 10/24/08
I can't be certain but...  deowll | 10/21/08
So, the article is actually about  Mahegan | 10/21/08
Actually No.  The_Quietman | 10/21/08
Misguided if so  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/21/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  SoftwareDeveloperMI | 10/21/08
Looks like you need to upgrade to Vista.  ye | 10/21/08
Vista isn't any safer.  The_Quietman | 10/21/08
An OS can only do so much.  ye | 10/21/08
A friend with 2 young kids.  joe.smetona@... | 10/21/08
... and a trained monkey  tgilbert@... | 10/21/08
It's called real life experience.  joe.smetona@... | 10/23/08
Give your friend and his two young kids an unprivileged...  ye | 10/21/08
Big Difference $$$$$$$$$  joe.smetona@... | 11/21/08
Re: joe.smet  AzuMao | 11/22/08
Re: AzuMao  joe.smetona@... | 12/31/08
=P  AzuMao | 01/01/09
But Vista  TedKraan | 10/22/08
Did they give you a none privileged account?  deowll | 10/21/08
The CanSec security challenge illustrated that.  ye | 10/21/08
Those end runs will get you every time.  kozmcrae | 10/21/08
It is my understanding Flash installs...  ye | 10/22/08
Not system  daengbo | 10/24/08
determined to punch holes in Windows security  Ole Man | 10/21/08
Here is what you do:  CobraA1 | 10/21/08
Beware your Linux and Mac friends?  roystonlodge | 10/21/08
You responding to the right person?  CobraA1 | 10/21/08
They are not...  arminw | 10/21/08
How could Windows become any harder to infect?  ye | 10/21/08
I'd invite you to check your statistics  CobraA1 | 10/21/08
Mac or OSX?  roystonlodge | 10/22/08
Truth? Or truthiness?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/21/08
As far as I'm concerned  tracy anne | 10/25/08
There's basically 2 groups here.  joe.smetona@... | 10/25/08
Then just move to linux!  bendib | 10/31/08
oh, and you can get linux free at my site!  bendib | 10/31/08
Any AV I've seen for Linux is really for Windows.  joe.smetona@... | 12/31/08
Assume everybody has a virus.  deowll | 10/21/08
Or use Norton  library assistant | 10/21/08
It's not "use Norton"  kozmcrae | 10/21/08
Nah  library assistant | 10/21/08
Norton is the worst  EmperorDarius | 10/22/08
Who do you trust?  tgilbert@... | 10/21/08
Damages?  kozmcrae | 10/21/08
Paranoid schizophrenics  Ole Man | 10/21/08
Irony?  CobraA1 | 10/22/08
RE: Zombie PCs: Microsoft is in on the infections  TomDeMan | 10/21/08
Unfortunately, you're wrong.  Alan Burns | 10/21/08
Just a question  deowll | 10/21/08
They write the virus to keep you scared.. THINK ABOUT IT  PenguinPowerPusher | 10/22/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  Regman999 | 10/21/08
What!! No Porn!!!...  Regman999 | 10/21/08
It sounded so nice...  MGP2 | 10/21/08
A couple of (maybe stupid) questions...  roystonlodge | 10/21/08
How to tell  JsloNt@... | 10/21/08
How to tell  rob@... | 10/22/08
Not 100% sure.  deowll | 10/21/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  TomDeMan | 10/21/08
No power = dead bot  charlesurrea@... | 10/21/08
What to do?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/21/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  rob@... | 10/21/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  drdata@... | 10/21/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  rcalahan1@... | 10/21/08
Process or program name for the Zombie?  Curiousguy99 | 10/21/08
I am not a troll  library assistant | 10/21/08
Not sure who you are replying to, however...  TripleII | 10/21/08
This really shows the unwise choice in XP for UMPC.  TripleII | 10/21/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  jwintersmith@... | 10/21/08
You need to call your doctor!  TripleII | 10/21/08
RE: More media sensationalism.  Bozzer | 10/21/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  JOHN_TUOHY | 10/22/08
@Wolfie2K - 100 *85 =8500 and not 85.000  Kostagh | 10/22/08
didn't even notice that..  TedKraan | 10/22/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  Kostagh | 10/22/08
I just don't get you guys...  Kostagh | 10/22/08
The story was about  TedKraan | 10/22/08
How do you know?  TripleII | 10/22/08
Yep, I have my Windows boxes locked down tight, too  Ole Man | 10/22/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  mike acker | 10/22/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  no_zd_user_name | 10/22/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  medezark@... | 10/22/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  dtoro | 10/22/08
Must be a humorous piece.  alf@... | 10/22/08
Actually, because:  btljooz | 10/22/08
Can be evaded  EmperorDarius | 10/22/08
I wish u luck, E.D., ur gonna NEED it! n/t  btljooz | 10/22/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  cmcintosh | 10/22/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  Franciscus101 | 10/22/08
Take a look at distros like Ubuntu and PCLOS.....  btljooz | 10/22/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  oneoldgeek@... | 10/22/08
The above post was aimed at Wolfie and is on target. n/t  btljooz | 10/22/08
Is market share to blame? Does Linux = Windows?  davidr69 | 10/22/08
Cooper Tires in Union workers  Dilberter | 10/22/08
Cause and effect  davidr69 | 10/22/08
It's one of the common misperceptions  TedKraan | 10/23/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  Dilberter | 10/22/08
It's no longer a game, so they're not thinking like a gamer  spec07 | 10/22/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  bj70117@... | 10/22/08
m0n0wall  j.dupont | 10/22/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  jackofalltradesmasterofnone | 10/22/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  jackofalltradesmasterofnone | 10/22/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  CBR1000F | 10/22/08
Time to infection is less than five minutes?  gbentley@... | 10/22/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  Ozone71 | 10/22/08
What dark figure would attempt to infect 0.9 % of PC users?  transposeIT | 10/22/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  zdnet@... | 10/23/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  Lars777 | 10/23/08
OS is irrelevant  Dr_Zinj | 10/23/08
Much Improved  nucrash | 10/23/08
Restricted Users  Island Gecko | 10/23/08
Linux is a great solution, but it is not feasible for everyone...  tracy anne | 10/24/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  ereshkagal | 10/23/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  swamprob@... | 10/23/08
Pleeeeease don't say "Get Linux"  tracy anne | 10/24/08
So it's Linux or nothing?  swamprob@... | 10/24/08
Why not ask your daddy?  Ole Man | 10/24/08
No, it's not Linux or nothing  tracy anne | 10/25/08
A ZDNet search engine  Ole Man | 10/24/08
Yikes. So what's a user to do?  tracy anne | 10/24/08
this news is pure FUD.  qmlscycrajg | 10/24/08
Hey!, you just made an oxymoron  Ole Man | 10/24/08
Who has a PC connected to the internet without a firewall any more??????  Narg | 10/24/08
A firewall will not protect you  schmandel@... | 10/24/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  dalgleish100 | 11/11/08
RE: Zombie PCs: 'Time to infection is less than five minutes'  medezark@... | 10/01/09

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