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A different take
"Economics and business have a notoriously short-sighted, narrow-
minded set of considerations. Haven?t we just re-learned that ancient
lesson from the hedge funder corruption and the phoney mortgage
miasma?"

What lesson did you learn? Did these markets fail or did government
intervention in market operations corrupted them? Why are tax payers
saddled with massive debts if these markets were allowed to fail?

Governments were all over these failures (legislation supporting loans
to disadvantage borrower, licenses for financial operators restricting
competition but failed claimed oversight, lax monetary policy,
subsidiaries to failing corporations, etc).

Free-er markets have lifted more people out of poverty than any
government. Literary billions of people in the last decade. The
markets productive capacity has been underpinned by inexpensive
energy.

Coal pollutants in 19th century London were a problem, but have you
visited lately? A cleaner environment for many more people with a
standard of living and health unimaginable to the cities earlier
inhabitants.

A similar transformation is occurring throughout the developing
world. For those of us witnessing this transformation the progress is
truly amazing. I'd suggest Harry go there sometime but he probably
couldn't justify the emissions.

The greatest crime against humanity will be if Harry and friends get
their way and restrict development. Their complaints are nothing new
and have been made throughout human history. Fortunately mankind
has ignored these prophecies of doom and we in the developed world
enjoy a quality of life unimaginable even a few decades earlier.

Our lifestyle is such that we can indulge the Harrys of the world. But
make no mistake, follow their teachings and billions of people will
suffer.

Mistakes will continue to be made. Unscrupulous businessmen, often
with government support/corruption, will exist. Harry lists a half
dozen cases in his blog. I excuse none of them. However billions of
other stories remain untold by these few. This is the inconvenient
truth you search.
Posted by: Richard Flude   Posted on: 10/17/09  (Edited: 10/17/2009 @ 02:22) You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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A different take  Richard Flude | 10/17/09
London is cleaner - but not because of the free market  snberk341 | 10/17/09
And the side effect of what you are mentioning  Lerianis10 | 10/18/09
Green Dot program  snberk341 | 10/18/09
Not really...  HooNoze | 10/18/09
People that buy do pay.  bjbrock | 10/18/09
Pay - as a consumer or a taxpayer  snberk341 | 10/19/09
Proof, please.  msalzberg | 10/18/09
Free-er markets behind today's standard of living  Richard Flude | 10/18/09
isn't london's electricity bought in from France (Nuclear)  stevey_d | 10/18/09
Save it  Tim Patterson | 10/17/09
"environmental crimes against the planet"  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/17/09
Got to agree with you  Lerianis10 | 10/18/09
gaia complex...?????? you clearly haven't read any books  stevey_d | 10/18/09
"It is now past the point where we can prevent the major changes"  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/18/09
"depressed"??? No not at all  stevey_d | 10/18/09
Well, that clears it up.  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/18/09
what is your problem?  stevey_d | 10/18/09
Chill out I said.  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/18/09
conferring emotion is a cheap trick to try to undermine an argument  stevey_d | 10/18/09
You sound hysterical. So my point is valid.  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/18/09
Actually, they're very possible to deny  John Zern | 10/18/09
Do you have any children?  bjbrock | 10/18/09
Nope.  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/18/09
population isn't a factor  stevey_d | 10/18/09
Of course population is a factor.  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/18/09
Communist agenda..... Oboma = Stalin  Christian_<>< | 10/18/09
@Christian  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/18/09
My thoughts on CO2  CobraA1 | 10/17/09
CO2 is not something that we have to worry about  Lerianis10 | 10/18/09
nonsense  stevey_d | 10/18/09
Yawn again Steve.  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/18/09
You're right - and you'll be sharing Canada with a lot of other people  stevey_d | 10/18/09
Nope.  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/18/09
As Canadian, let me say...  snberk341 | 10/19/09
"we'll close the borders and shoot everyone" ... "chill out"  stevey_d | 10/18/09
I dunno if you've noticed . . .  CobraA1 | 10/18/09
5 degrees would make cold london into the sahara  stevey_d | 10/18/09
Stevey sounds like a child, doesn't he.  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/18/09
Trade winds, not temp, determines dryness.  CobraA1 | 10/18/09
Cobra1, even Siberia was a desert after the Permian Extinction  stevey_d | 10/18/09
@Stevey  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/18/09
Canada is bigger  snberk341 | 10/19/09
^^^ Spam post. Ignore. ^^^  James T. Kirk | 10/17/09
The fact is that our planet  Lerianis10 | 10/18/09
95 of the worlds' scientist disagree with you  stevey_d | 10/18/09
Interesting.  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/18/09
Made up statistics . . .  CobraA1 | 10/18/09
I agree, only 95 of the world's scientists disagree with you...  aalhc5@... | 10/18/09
cheap shot on a typo, you know it's 95%  stevey_d | 10/18/09
You are right, to a point...  snberk341 | 10/18/09
I also have to post that it is either get used to these environmental  Lerianis10 | 10/18/09
"THEY HATE HUMANITY" who's the loon Lerianis10  stevey_d | 10/18/09
Man, take a rest - watch your blood pressure.  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/18/09
Good points  oncall | 10/18/09
Same here, dude.  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/18/09
the white anglosaxon Christian male  oncall | 10/18/09
So I'm glad you'll  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/18/09
Already got  oncall | 10/18/09
handwaving nope "would we be better served working on adapting" yep  stevey_d | 10/18/09
Lol Stevey - watch your blood pressure!  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/18/09
you are hysterical  stevey_d | 10/18/09
See? I'm helping you to cool down from your doom thinking...  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/18/09
Poverty, not climate change  Richard Flude | 10/18/09
"quantity of food continues to increase". wrong.. it _was_ increasing  stevey_d | 10/18/09
Your "research" is embarrassing  Richard Flude | 10/18/09
Trying to make it real compared to what?  TriangleDoor | 10/18/09
Sheesh, that's bad poetry  aspir8or | 10/19/09
I agree, might be good for you to start with DDT (fact finding)  aalhc5@... | 10/18/09
Hey Harry, is Stevey your 2nd nick? He sounds as hysterical as you.  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/18/09
hey "the world is 6000 years old and evolution doesn't exist guy"  stevey_d | 10/18/09
I'm doing very good thanks.  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/18/09
Lies lies and more lies...  Christian_<>< | 10/18/09
Actually.  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/18/09
Really?  ITLeader | 10/19/09
Because the Rapture is coming  Reality-based | 10/19/09
What Will You Do  sboverie@... | 10/20/09
Nice!  ITLeader | 10/20/09
It's funny...  rmazzeo | 10/19/09
Not really.  masonwheeler | 10/19/09

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