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Talk about Polution!!
There's is no form of transportation MORE polluting than an electric car. Why people are so thrilled with them....

They use power which is produce primarily by COAL!!!

The coal-fired electricity has to be transmitted which costs another 10% of the power.

If you want to charge your batteries overnight (ie. quickly), you will produce LOTS of heat which costs still MORE power

Per unit, I'd be surprised - SHOCKED - if an electric car has an efficiency of even 5% (a gasoline motor is about 30% efficient)

They take WAY more energy to build

They are full of all sort of noxious poisons like mercury, lead and lithium.

So go ahead - drive an electric car. Pat yourself on the back while you create the equivalent pollution of six normal cars. Probably more if you include all the hazardous waste produced in their production and disposal.
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Talk about Polution!!  Takalok | 08/06/08
Thank you and good points...  TheTruthGiver | 08/06/08
Poor math?  CobraA1 | 08/06/08
Ignorance is bliss...  TheTruthGiver | 08/07/08
Kinda works better when you know the numbers.  CobraA1 | 08/07/08
We couldn't tell....  TheTruthGiver | 08/08/08
I know the truth hurts.....  richardebyrd | 08/08/08
@richardebyrd...  JCitizen | 08/09/08
re: Hybrid  Takalok | 08/07/08
Opportunities to Capture  shawn_dude | 08/07/08
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No, with an "if"; Yes, with a "but"  reziol | 08/07/08
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RE: Hybrid  tkendall2@... | 08/08/08
That's what I say....  JCitizen | 08/08/08
Car manufacturers & big oil hire posters to bad-mouth alt technologies  brichard | 08/14/08
False, false, and false.  CobraA1 | 08/06/08
Great points and kudos .....  Prognosticator | 08/07/08
Efficiency  Takalok | 08/07/08
Numbers, please.  CobraA1 | 08/07/08
Rather Bizarre  Takalok | 08/07/08
Electricity: "Disastrous" to produce or "Clean"  johndecoville | 08/07/08
More than bizarre  CobraA1 | 08/07/08
Let's do some more numbers  frgough | 08/07/08
Let's figure out where the numbers come from first.  CobraA1 | 08/07/08
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Glad to hear it.  CobraA1 | 08/07/08
Why purely solar?  laura.b | 08/07/08
You plan on paving over the whole earth?  frgough | 08/07/08
No, you need to actually read posts before responding  laura.b | 08/07/08
Some more numbers  frgough | 08/07/08
Yes, you can  laura.b | 08/07/08
@frgough  JCitizen | 08/07/08
Hydroelectric is not the final answer  jimonline@... | 08/11/08
Not according to the Science channel and...  JCitizen | 08/12/08
Complete Nonsense  JohnMcGrew@... | 08/07/08
Wind, solar, and geothermal are making quick headway...  JCitizen | 08/07/08
depends how you generate the electricity  deaf_e_kate | 08/07/08
It should look like a REAL car, not a beefed up golf cart.  CobraA1 | 08/06/08
Except that  frgough | 08/07/08
They've got cheaper cars planned.  CobraA1 | 08/07/08
Um, wrong.  frgough | 08/07/08
Numbers, please.  CobraA1 | 08/07/08
Sigh  frgough | 08/07/08
Does that apply to capacitors, fuel cells, and flywheels?  CobraA1 | 08/07/08
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Strained power grids  veewee77 | 08/07/08
Strain - not really a problem  laura.b | 08/07/08
Understand, but affordable? NOT!  veewee77 | 08/07/08
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Science? What Science?  John Gordon | 08/07/08
Tell you what  frgough | 08/07/08
Wow, frgough is smart  Takalok | 08/07/08
Real evaluation, based on personal experience.  dryflies | 08/07/08
you cannot break the first law of thermodynamics.  dryflies | 08/07/08
The ZENN electric car.  michael.burgess@... | 08/07/08
The best feature for the ZENN...  JCitizen | 08/09/08
how about a car that runs on water?  JDC4000 | 08/07/08
Arrrrggggghhhhhh!!!!!!!  Takalok | 08/07/08
The ZAP truck is not about and everyperson electric car  DadsPad | 08/07/08
The car of the future is not going to be your Dad's car...  JCitizen | 08/07/08
Watts and hours  CobraA1 | 08/07/08
Wind energy is taking over the midwest...  JCitizen | 08/07/08
Agreed.  CobraA1 | 08/07/08
My cousin operates a coal plant in the midwest...  JCitizen | 08/07/08
Wow, didn't know that.  CobraA1 | 08/07/08
HA! laugh Yeah, the grid is tied together...  JCitizen | 08/07/08
Ah, thanks  CobraA1 | 08/07/08
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Informative comments  Lowe | 08/07/08
No problem!  CobraA1 | 08/07/08
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recycle  CobraA1 | 08/07/08
See my argument, and then some...  JCitizen | 08/07/08
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