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man you are a socialist..
thanks for finally confirming it.

The entire point of a universal healthcare system is to allow everyone to take care of everyone else, not push values on each other. This doesnt mean the government cannot push campaigns to get people to stop smoking, drinking heavily, eating to much, etc.. etc.. Hell they could even offere incentives to people who choose to live healthy lifestyles and can prove it with results.

The next step would be to offer programs to help people curb eating, smoking, drinking, etc.. etc.

If you missed what obama said, he said we should streamline our care, make it more efficient and take away only the things that seem extravigant. Elective surgery should be paid for by the individual. A test should only be run as many times as a doctor deems it necessary. And doctors.. just like mechanics who only know how to part swap a problem away.. are held accountable for being inefficient.

Besides the above.. there is one section where i am torn, that would be fixing screw ups. How do we deal with malpractice? Where i work, if you sue us, your're basically sueing the government, so the chances of you winning are low. Partly the reason lawyers usually dont take the case. Plus the payout is mainly for the patient. I dont think this is the best of systems but its probably far better than each doctor having to mortgage their career just to stay in business.


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Or.  pdskep | 07/28/09
You would be right. If this were about health care  frgough | 07/28/09
Not really  pdskep | 07/28/09
Yes, really  frgough | 07/28/09
man you are a socialist..  Been_Done_Before | 07/28/09
The naivete is astounding  frgough | 07/28/09
Tyranny doesn't enter into it  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 07/28/09
The difference between you and me  frgough | 07/28/09
I don't think you understand the meaning of Socialist  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 07/28/09
Prevention is better than cure?  fr0thy2 | 07/29/09
LOL - you are last one to be commenting talk about socialist -  USTechHead | 07/29/09
It completely matters who pays  brucelund | 08/13/09
brilliant!  nut762 | 07/28/09
when you're old  nut762 | 07/28/09
The best humor is based in truth  frgough | 07/28/09
RE: Obesity is the health reform fault line  condelirios | 07/28/09
Interesting thoughts there  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 07/28/09
BTW ,, love that picture...  condelirios | 07/28/09
You can't get fat by not eating!  fr0thy2 | 07/29/09
Before your British hob snob comes out you might want to check this out -  USTechHead | 07/29/09
And actually to correct you (which most do) just a little -  USTechHead | 07/29/09
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The problem with socialism  frgough | 07/28/09
Irrelevant  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 07/28/09
BS and double BS  frgough | 07/28/09
The problem with Capitalism  fr0thy2 | 07/29/09
This is what the private market wants  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 07/28/09
From Webster's:  cornpie | 07/28/09
RE: Obesity is the health reform fault line  Richard B | 07/28/09
RE: Obesity is the health reform fault line  handwritingrepair@... | 07/28/09
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You're stumbling into the truth  frgough | 07/28/09
That is NOT the real reason for health care reform  Lerianis10 | 07/28/09
Your ideology is showing  frgough | 07/28/09
There you go again  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 07/28/09
If you engage in risky sexual behavior  frgough | 07/28/09
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Science  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 07/28/09
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Price Signals -- brilliant!  DanaBlankenhorn ZDNet Moderator | 07/28/09
You're Missing the Point  mshambaugh | 07/28/09
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Both are genetic.  osreinstall | 07/28/09
We all pay  Ken_z | 07/28/09
Amazing...  kcredden2 | 07/28/09
RE: Obesity is the health reform fault line  Farbles | 07/28/09
Now your true colors (red) come out.  cornpie | 07/28/09
Cut The Name-Calling Propaganda  Cardhu | 09/07/09
Why stop with healthcare  jshaw4343 | 07/28/09
Epic Thread  john.lemme@... | 07/29/09
Everyone Has Forgotten The Purpose of National Healthcare....  ccrasher | 07/29/09
Actually, The Purpose Of Insurance  Cardhu | 07/30/09
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