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xbox 360 hd drive is optional
Ah, yes the obligatory dig on Microsoft.

So they made the wrong choice and backed HD instead of Blu-ray. I guess they dont have the power to force things on consumers.

They raced to offer HD capability, but those who bought had to know that the standards werent final and that they were taking a risk. And if MS didnt include an HD drive, Robin would be telling us that MS missed the boat.
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