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Windows makes it harder to exploit holes THAT'S DAMN TRUE
"It's really simple. Safari on the Mac is easier to exploit. The things that Windows do to make it harder (for exploit to work), Macs don't do. Hacking into Macs is so much easier. You don't have to jump through hoops and deal with all the anti-exploit mitigation you?d find in Windows."

LOL @The self-proclaimed--world's most advanced OS...
Posted by: shellcodes_coder   Posted on: 03/19/09  (Edited: 03/19/2009 @ 03:52) You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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Windows makes it harder to exploit holes THAT'S DAMN TRUE  shellcodes_coder | 03/19/09
Well,  eMJayy | 03/19/09
No wonder the logo has a bite in it, it's infected with worms!  T1Oracle | 03/20/09
The bite represents  GuidingLight | 03/20/09
ROTFLMAO!  eMJayy | 03/22/09
or...  wcb42ad | 03/23/09
Looking at real consequences...  Mikael_z | 03/20/09
Oh I get it! No market share, no security?  T1Oracle | 03/20/09
Stupid people make Microsoft rich  Mikael_z | 03/20/09
Actually, they only have an abysmal security record  Lerianis | 03/21/09
Actually  T1Oracle | 03/21/09
Can you elaborate on how Linux's security is better than Window's security?  ye | 03/21/09
Or better yet, why Linux would have better security than Mac OS X  Mikael_z | 03/22/09
Servers aren't the most valuable platforms to own - desktops are  de-void | 03/22/09
Nonsense - servers ARE valuable targets  Zogg | 03/22/09
@Zogg: That's not what I said.  de-void | 03/23/09
@ Zogg: Are you absoloutely 100% sure?  Wolfie2K3 | 03/23/09
@Ye  Amelioration | 03/23/09
Mac OS X on is not Mac OSX Server  Michael Fournier | 03/24/09
Since everyone else was replying to this message...  dbisse@... | 04/03/09
Your nothing but a talking head.  Cayble | 03/22/09
WHY my house...  arminw | 03/23/09
but the neighborhood watch...  ericesque | 03/23/09
So if we all got "smart" and bought Macs...  Wolfie2K3 | 03/23/09
WOW  Jimster480 | 05/06/09
Earth to "hacker"--earth to hacker, come in-please  gennx30 | 03/23/09
Many posters here have contributed...  JCitizen | 03/30/09
NT  MGP2 | 03/19/09
Exploits on OSX "just work" happy nt  brble | 03/19/09
10 out of 10!!! ROFL!!! LOL!!!! nt  NonZealot | 03/19/09
Easily the funniest thing I've heard all day  Core2uu | 03/19/09
Instant win!  Sleeper Service | 03/20/09
Good one there ....  super_J | 03/20/09
LOL! nt  GuidingLight | 03/20/09
I wonder if the Mac guy commercials...  Cayble | 03/22/09
More likely...  Wolfie2K3 | 03/23/09
You're right.  Amelioration | 03/23/09
RE: Questions for Pwn2Own hacker Charlie Miller  joshbw | 03/19/09
Technologies present, ...  Richard Flude | 03/19/09
There is an opt-out of DEP for .Net applications?  Lerianis | 03/21/09
IE8 final fixed Down and Sotirov exploit method  IE8 | 03/29/09
Apple Supporters!!!!.....Wanted.....  Nsaf | 03/19/09
Here you go  macadam | 03/20/09
RE: Here you go  MissingMatter | 03/21/09
You're getting too excited.  InAction Man | 03/20/09
They are off bashing Microsoft  GuidingLight | 03/20/09
Look again  macadam | 03/20/09
There is a larger point here ...  dkawalec | 03/20/09
I agree with what you are saying  macadam | 03/20/09
That's the problem  LiquidLearner | 03/20/09
But it is properly built  Mikael_z | 03/21/09
I love the argument  LiquidLearner | 03/21/09
AV-software is only needed in a flawed OS  Mikael_z | 03/21/09
For once, I actually agree with you!  bswiss | 03/23/09
None of it is good  Richard Flude | 03/20/09
We have a winner!  LiquidLearner | 03/20/09
Not quite right....  linux for me | 03/20/09
Why wasn't Linux listed?  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 03/22/09
They couldn't crack it in 2008 ...  Tony R. | 03/24/09
(Sorry about the *****)  Tony R. | 03/24/09
Probably thought ******* was racial or something.  JCitizen | 03/30/09
Linux  Michael Fournier | 03/24/09
Really good post.  Cayble | 03/22/09
I agree with your summary  tikigawd | 03/23/09
Apple supporters don't care what some hacker has to say.  ashdude | 03/21/09
Please don't quote Dvorak  MissingMatter | 03/21/09
Worse Apple basher in web history now supports the Mac.  ashdude | 03/22/09
Can you say it a few more times?  ye | 03/22/09
Thinking the same thing  #foolish | 03/24/09
Am I missing something here... or are these guys cyber-mercenaries?  A Grain of Salt | 03/19/09
It's just a Mac ..  CiOner | 03/20/09
Please don't quote Roughly Drafted  mtgarden | 03/20/09
Because he presents the other side of the argument?  macadam | 03/20/09
Couldn't have said it better myself  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 03/20/09
Rubbish.  Sleeper Service | 03/22/09
Interesting that you should say that  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 03/24/09
Oh come on! Be real.  Cayble | 03/22/09
Roughly Drafted is like...  Cayble | 03/22/09
Why not get paid for your work?  Fark | 03/20/09
I am in one hundred percent agreement.  GuidingLight | 03/20/09
Yes, welcome back to the days of the Mafia and other criminal organizations  CobraA1 | 03/20/09
well....  Badgered | 03/20/09
Considering he held onto the vulnerability over a year  LiquidLearner | 03/20/09
Why should there be a connection at all?  CobraA1 | 03/20/09
Re: Considering he held onto the vulnerability over a year  A Grain of Salt | 03/20/09
How much should he charge then?  LiquidLearner | 03/21/09
@CobraA1  Axsimulate | 03/20/09
Wanna survive the forthcoming cyberwar?  Amelioration | 03/23/09
It's sad how they see him as a bad guy. Why? Because he's not  HypnoToad | 03/21/09
If he would have hacked a DVD...  ashdude | 03/20/09
Hey, if Apple offered money to the first person  Lerianis | 03/21/09
I read the same paragraph and thought the same...  commodon | 03/22/09
What happened to the concept of...  JCitizen | 03/30/09
Maybe Quit Selling Beta as Finished Code?  Too Old For IT | 03/23/09
That'd be unAmerican.  Amelioration | 03/23/09
Have you ever reported...  dbisse@... | 04/03/09
RE: Questions for Pwn2Own hacker Charlie Miller  RTTECH82 | 03/20/09
Proves my point about social engineering  macadam | 03/20/09
So why doesn't Miller protect his own Macs?  macadam | 03/20/09
Miller talks a lot about memory randomization  frgough | 03/20/09
I would have to agree  unholytech | 03/20/09
Buggering the user's system is NOT the goal  de-void | 03/22/09
+1 to "NO MORE FREE BUGS"  DroppinIT | 03/20/09
+10  HypnoToad | 03/21/09
Changes in Snow Leopard?  WarhavenSC | 03/20/09
I don't think  frgough | 03/20/09
That's very different than a drive-by attack. Anyone know...  olePigeon | 03/20/09
It wouldn't have counted  LiquidLearner | 03/20/09
Don't be so sure  frgough | 03/21/09
Oh shut up  Sleeper Service | 03/22/09
Translation  rtk | 03/23/09
RE: Questions for Pwn2Own hacker Charlie Miller  Still Lynn | 03/20/09
Honest question here  frgough | 03/20/09
Why not just send it back in a web-based email?  Scrat | 03/21/09
Perhaps  frgough | 03/21/09
Port 80 is always open  de-void | 03/23/09
You don't need to be root to bind to a port.  ye | 03/21/09
Why?  Richard Flude | 03/20/09
I have to supply a password in OSX to do a system change.  ashdude | 03/20/09
No you don't  Richard Flude | 03/21/09
Sloppy hacking?  ashdude | 03/21/09
true  Richard Flude | 03/21/09
Except SMTP is on Port 25  Michael Fournier | 03/24/09
Unix & Linux Just as Vulnerable?  WarhavenSC | 03/20/09
no ...They would not.  unholytech | 03/20/09
Yes  honeymonster | 03/21/09
Wrong......  linux for me | 03/21/09
But  AndyCee | 03/22/09
What you guys just don't get ...  de-void | 03/22/09
Different definitions of the term "damage"!  Zogg | 03/22/09
I agree, but ...  de-void | 03/23/09
Explain the Mac OS X then please isn't ...  USTechHead | 03/23/09
Huh?..  JCitizen | 03/30/09
RE: Questions for Pwn2Own hacker Charlie Miller  n3net | 03/20/09
@n3net  Axsimulate | 03/20/09
No more free bugs? No more free ride . . .  CobraA1 | 03/20/09
I doubt that....  unholytech | 03/20/09
Sure there is.  CobraA1 | 03/20/09
For every Charlie Miller  Too Old For IT | 03/23/09
re: Sure there is.  rtk | 03/23/09
Wrecking computers  BALTHOR | 03/20/09
Well....  unholytech | 03/20/09
IE is one big BUG wink  Christian_<>< | 03/20/09
Wow  Qbt | 03/20/09
re:  Christian_<>< | 03/20/09
That is because  Qbt | 03/21/09
If you're going to put a cost to malware  AndyCee | 03/22/09
Can you put a price on ...  de-void | 03/22/09
Err, that DNS exploit affected EVERYBODY  Zogg | 03/22/09
I'm not spinning this as a UNIX only thing ...  de-void | 03/26/09
And ... as if to make the point for me ...  de-void | 03/26/09
You are so right  dbisse@... | 04/03/09
Board?  meechp123 | 03/21/09
Damn, you're a clueless twit...  Wolfie2K3 | 03/24/09
This really sucks !  rtirman37@... | 03/20/09
RE: Questions for Pwn2Own hacker Charlie Miller  SquishyParts | 03/20/09
@SquishyPants  rtk | 03/23/09
HAA! Good one rtk!..  JCitizen | 03/30/09
Yeah, if he's sitting next to you w/ a x-over cable!  matthew_maurice | 03/20/09
I think you need to take a ride over to the Clue Store...  Scrat | 03/21/09
RE: Questions for Pwn2Own hacker Charlie Miller  Telix | 03/21/09
What a socialist!!  HypnoToad | 03/21/09
Whimp!  Loverrock Davidson | 03/22/09
Standard appearance for good programmers  AndyCee | 03/22/09
get a life  shis-ka-bob | 03/22/09
Confliker is a non issue  Aussie_Troll | 03/22/09
Where do I begin with this troll?  eMJayy | 03/22/09
Do your homework  Aussie_Troll | 03/22/09
The lesson learned with Conficker: Patch your systems!  ye | 03/23/09
RE: Questions for Pwn2Own hacker Charlie Miller  richvball44 | 03/22/09
Hands-On approach  Jkirk3279 | 03/23/09
ok, thanks  richvball44 | 03/23/09
Billion is 1 million million long scale  Aussie_Troll | 03/22/09
You're hopeless  eMJayy | 03/23/09
RE: Questions for Pwn2Own hacker Charlie Miller  partman1969@... | 03/23/09
One of the most interesting and informative articles I've read on ZDNet  heres_johnny | 03/23/09
ZDNet should hire Charlie Miller  Too Old For IT | 03/23/09
Chrome, too (NT)  kfan | 03/23/09
RE: Questions for Pwn2Own hacker Charlie Miller  Michael Fournier | 03/23/09
One more issue  Michael Fournier | 03/23/09
So much for OS X Security  jpr75_z | 03/23/09
Don't be so confident  Michael Fournier | 03/27/09
I was just wondering...  melekali | 03/23/09
so now we know who to burn at the stake  walkerjian@... | 03/23/09
RE: Questions for Pwn2Own hacker Charlie Miller  Michael Fournier | 03/27/09
RE: Questions for Pwn2Own hacker Charlie Miller  aloraawumen | 04/05/09
the secret no one wants anyone to know?  pcguy777 | 05/06/09
RE: Questions for Pwn2Own hacker Charlie Miller  jeverettk | 05/06/09
RE: Questions for Pwn2Own hacker Charlie Miller  Me_too | 05/23/09
@Me_too  rtk | 05/25/09

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