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You tried the WRONG Linux: Give Sabayon Linux a Try!!! wink
Although Ubuntu has come out of nowhere to be the top installed Linux, it's far from being the best, easiest, or even most secure Linux. Nor is Fedora for that mater!

Ubuntu is sort of your garden variety "Do it Yourself" built Linux install (and Fedora is just a slight step up). They are so into total non-proprietary installs and freaked by lawsuit fears, etc, or anything remotely proprietary (like GPU Drivers) are all left for you to handle getting installed. Minimal Programs and applications are all you get in either of these, configured or running on first boot.

Meaning it's the Linux that comes in the Plain Brown Wrapper and if you've never used Linux, you're in for a freaky trip with Sudo (sorta of access), instead of Root access (full Administrative control of your own Linux installation).

I try to steer everyone away from Ubuntu (of all Distros to begin with, NOT). Because if I myself have a hard time with it, after using Linux for over 12yrs, a noob is going to be completely discouraged. Especially in just trying to get rid of the feeling they are using a distro strapped down in Brown molasses, plain, Driverless (devoid of any proprietary programs, drivers, installed and pre-configured hardware).

The Hard Core CLI-O-phytes (Command Line only) Linux users are scared to death that Linux might actually look nice and come with all the programs you could ever use pre-configured and installed along with all your hardware.

So the Classic Battle between Forward to the Future Distros and STUCK in the PAST ones continues. Ubuntu is one of those Distros that will never make it into Future Mainstream America because of this.

If you seriously want to try Linux, give Sabayon Linux a try. Simple install, everything is included and it all just works (even your X-Fi card)!

http://www.sabayonlinux.org

Re: Security? Linux beats everything else by miles and that's just plain obvious with it's Secure Linux Kernel. Designed in co-operation with NSA (National Security Agency) for their own use!

Which Operating System is used on almost all the Super Computers in the World? Yes it's Linux or some form of Unix System!!! wink Ride the Wave, it's FREE and it's Open! Sabayon Linux!!!
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this is the evidence that open source linux security sucks!  qmlscycrajg | 08/22/08
How?  matt10 | 08/22/08
I agree, LiNuX sux.  bananatwinkie | 08/22/08
With people like this...  storm14k | 08/22/08
That's curious  xuniL_z | 08/22/08
What assumption....  storm14k | 08/23/08
Ummmm...  todbran@... | 08/25/08
Say what !  Intellihence | 08/25/08
I am confused  elderlybloke | 08/29/08
Good Windows customer  djchandler | 08/22/08
I agree...Windows sux.  linux for me | 08/23/08
Mandriva  pgit | 08/25/08
Ummmm....  todbran@... | 08/25/08
You tried the WRONG Linux: Give Sabayon Linux a Try!!! wink  i2fun@... | 08/25/08
I've Tried Ubuntu  nfhiggs@... | 08/25/08
I've tried Ubuntu, too  Billsey | 08/25/08
Good for you  nfhiggs@... | 08/25/08
Not Sure You Realise I'm NOT knocking Linux, just Ubuntu! grin  i2fun@... | 08/26/08
Well, that makes it conclusive...  rx7racer | 08/25/08
See the problem has been...  ye | 08/22/08
true dat  bmonster | 08/22/08
The real problem has been that...  storm14k | 08/22/08
The "microbrains" do so because...  ye | 08/22/08
But with the majority...  storm14k | 08/22/08
To my knowledge...  ye | 08/22/08
YAWN at Ye ONCE AGAIN trotting out the old market share bs  bmerc | 08/25/08
This is slightly different  GuidingLight | 08/22/08
That's the problem!  bill@... | 08/23/08
No...  zkiwi | 08/24/08
It is?...  storm14k | 08/22/08
How does this compare  rpmyers1 | 08/22/08
sucks is good, bites is bad  dragon@... | 08/22/08
One.......  todbran@... | 08/25/08
RE: Red Hat (belatedly) confirms security breach  Loverock Davidson | 08/22/08
I think you're being a bit extreme.  ye | 08/22/08
Now you do know...  storm14k | 08/22/08
I don't care. (nt)  ye | 08/22/08
The difference is..  peter_erskine@... | 08/24/08
Both sides of the fence  Pliny the Elder | 08/24/08
Waste of time  markdean | 08/25/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 08/22/08
Keep laughin Lovey boy...  deefburger | 08/25/08
download.microsoft.com  deefburger | 08/25/08
Huh? How do you figure?  daboochmeister | 08/25/08
ROTFLMAO!  Loverock Davidson | 08/22/08
Wake up in a new world every day?  IT_User | 08/22/08
This proves your a troll!  deefburger | 08/25/08
None. Anti-malware programs do not secure...  ye | 08/25/08
What?  davidhite | 08/25/08
Strange, I've been running XP for about 3 years  nfhiggs@... | 08/25/08
Even stranger  null.next()++ | 08/27/08
re: This proves "your" a troll!  fmhiggins | 08/25/08
One....  todbran@... | 08/25/08
Trolling  zomalaja | 08/25/08
LOL!  Loverock Davidson | 08/22/08
Is filling up the page  AndyCee | 08/22/08
Everyone is laughing AT you......  linux for me | 08/23/08
What concerns me...  ye | 08/22/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 08/22/08
Irrelevent.  ye | 08/22/08
I wouldn't say they were tight lipped.  storm14k | 08/22/08
Anything less the complete, full, open disclosure...  ye | 08/22/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 08/22/08
Full disclosure of what they know as soon as they know it.  ye | 08/22/08
I think ...  LBiege | 08/22/08
Actually 147560, the facts are that Red Hat's infrastructure is insecure  Scrat | 08/23/08
@Scrat: This is a wise thing to do.  ye | 08/23/08
Actually Scrat, not doing so would be dereliction  bmerc | 08/25/08
I'd say it was handled very poorly  TtfnJohn | 08/23/08
That doesn't appear to be accurate.  storm14k | 08/22/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 08/22/08
Overall I agree  LiquidLearner | 08/22/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 08/22/08
I think it was handled properly.  linux for me | 08/23/08
So much for "FOSS = quick response to defects"  LBiege | 08/22/08
So much for..  IT_User | 08/22/08
Red Hat users beware...  HypnoToad | 08/22/08
All computer users beware...  LiquidLearner | 08/22/08
I aint scared  davidhite | 08/25/08
RHN didn't send out the packages...no harm...no foul  sys_engineer | 08/22/08
Irrelevant.  ye | 08/22/08
Really?  sys_engineer | 08/22/08
They may have done a good job of limiting any damage.  ye | 08/25/08
So, limiting damage is less important ?  Hemlock Stones | 08/25/08
Did I say limiting damages was less important?  ye | 08/25/08
No, you just keep going on and on about a non-problem  Hemlock Stones | 08/25/08
No, that would be you playing whack-a-mole semantics games again  bmerc | 08/25/08
No Sorry  davidhite | 08/25/08
No surprise here...Here comes the FOSS apologists (nt)  transposeIT | 08/23/08
Even a day later its still funny!  Loverock Davidson | 08/23/08
Stupid infrastructure choice and poor security  Bozhidar | 08/23/08
LINUX FAILS AGAIN!  ShadeTreee | 08/23/08
Details unclear  rileinc | 08/25/08
Social engineering never seemed to be acceptable when...  ye | 08/25/08
Try again  Hemlock Stones | 08/25/08
One merely look at all the reference to Windows malware which...  ye | 08/25/08
It's only an example  rileinc | 08/25/08
"Doing so is simply immature and a waste of time. "  bmerc | 08/25/08
No need to wait...  User07734 | 08/25/08
RE: Red Hat (belatedly) confirms security breach  phatkat | 08/25/08
RE: Red Hat (belatedly) confirms security breach  eliwap | 08/25/08
Oh... One Other Thing  eliwap | 08/25/08
So True.  joe.smetona@... | 08/25/08
RE: Red Hat (belatedly) confirms security breach  I_Byte | 08/25/08
Linux sucks?  fourijm@... | 08/25/08
I thought Linux was indestructible  darkknightCECIL@... | 08/26/08
Not a problem.  joe.smetona@... | 08/27/08
Perfection is the enemy of good  starcannon99022@... | 08/27/08
darkknight me old mate-  elderlybloke | 08/29/08
That's why we migrate  pirewit | 08/28/08
RE: Red Hat (belatedly) confirms security breach  SysAdminII | 08/29/08

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