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yup it's the consumers/users/zombies
or they'll eat anything spoon-feed by Apple mindlessly.

It's also the corporate culture of Apple, flowing down from SJ. My way or the highway and I know much MUCH better then you attitude. Over the years Apple users are brainwashed into zombies that will take anything Apple give them.
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Because Apple users don't demand better  NonZealot | 06/24/08
Sadly, you're right...  Ryan Naraine ZDNet Moderator | 06/24/08
Badware  Harry Bardal | 06/24/08
Apple users  Ryan Naraine ZDNet Moderator | 06/24/08
And apparently  frgough | 06/24/08
re: non-issue  Badgered | 06/24/08
Correct  Ryan Naraine ZDNet Moderator | 06/24/08
Apple Customers  Harry Bardal | 06/24/08
you're not the only one  Ed Lin | 06/25/08
I agree  BlazingEagle | 06/25/08
Depends  notsofast | 06/25/08
Demanding Better...  Jaips | 06/24/08
iPod support  Norcross | 06/25/08
Where's the iPod support  rlarsen@... | 06/25/08
You said it yourself  spookyone1 | 07/15/08
I block ALL Apple apps from my systems, at work too  Joop deBruin | 06/25/08
not pure evil...  djchandler | 06/25/08
Pure Evil  jmadlena@... | 06/25/08
I wouldn't call it pure evil  alaniane@... | 06/26/08
Compared to this same subject 3 month ago...  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
RE: "I block all Apple apps..."  orthocross | 06/27/08
Re: Apps  Badgered | 06/27/08
Three  spookyone1 | 07/15/08
Me too!  jerry@... | 07/11/08
RE: "Apple users..."  orthocross | 06/27/08
Badware  slowe@... | 06/25/08
I know.. Scary isn't it? (NT)  ju1ce | 06/25/08
Re: Sadly you're right...  orthocross | 06/27/08
No, Donald...  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
yup it's the consumers/users/zombies  willyu | 06/24/08
Zombies?  Misha35 | 06/25/08
Uh huh... and just what are you using?  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
Yes about Apple and they  gkrwc | 07/10/08
Translation  frgough | 06/24/08
HA! ROFL  /A\V/ | 06/25/08
Re: "Translation..."  orthocross | 06/27/08
H.264...  SquishyParts | 06/27/08
Huh?  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 06/25/08
"MS does the exact same thing"  rzrwire@... | 06/25/08
Yes, Microsoft DOES do the exact same thing.  knot44 | 06/25/08
Re: Yes, Microsoft DOES do the exact same thing  chrisfalter | 06/25/08
What a bunch of crock dude,,,  AdventTech67 | 07/23/08
No, it doesn't  Badgered | 06/25/08
Mindless Apple Zombie Question...  ladyirol | 06/25/08
ahh  Badgered | 06/26/08
Windows - AutoUpdate  jjarman | 06/26/08
depends on the software  Ceridan | 06/27/08
Re: What kind of idiot would ever "Auto Update"?  orthocross | 06/27/08
Stop using automatic anything.  djchandler | 06/25/08
Naive Article: Perspective, MS does this regularly!...Media Player, etc...  jjarman | 06/26/08
WGA  spookyone1 | 07/15/08
OK  balaknair | 06/25/08
The problem is there is no mention of that in this article  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 06/25/08
Missing the point  laura.b | 06/25/08
Oh really?  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 06/25/08
Are you joking?  laura.b | 06/25/08
And how exactly are they "getting away with it" anymore than MS?  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 06/25/08
PAY ATTENTION  laura.b | 06/25/08
No difference at all...  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
Apple has never hosed anyone's machine.  AdventTech67 | 07/23/08
Not so fast  wolf_z | 02/13/09
i agree! needs to be put in perspective to MS's own practices!  jjarman | 06/26/08
Glad to hear you would approve of MS doing the same thing!!  NonZealot | 06/26/08
Asking for a Balanced Perspective, please don't make irrational conclusions  jjarman | 06/26/08
Are you outta your freaking mind.  AdventTech67 | 07/23/08
Alright  Badgered | 06/26/08
hmmmm....not quite accurate...Media Player, WGA, Silverlight, etc. etc. etc  jjarman | 06/26/08
hmm... maybe, maybe not.  Badgered | 06/26/08
some of both perhaps?  jjarman | 06/26/08
a good point you made...windows autoupdate log file, apple equivilant?  jjarman | 06/26/08
... up to users to decide ...  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
Well I for one say don't use APPLE products, ever!  AdventTech67 | 07/23/08
Say rather MS has tried the same trick in the past.  brendan@... | 06/26/08
As an Apple user...  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
My recent experience!  cyberdad@... | 06/25/08
Very curious...  ladyirol | 06/25/08
Actually, it's the other way around  tech_ed@... | 06/25/08
Zombies  jmadlena@... | 06/25/08
So sickeningly sweet I'm going to hurl!  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
Because Apple users don't KNOW any better...  Narg | 06/25/08
No possibility that it is the fault of the platform...?  ladyirol | 06/25/08
Actually, it's more of a matter  alaniane@... | 06/26/08
this apple customer disagrees  Ed Lin | 06/25/08
Not quite the same thing  laura.b | 06/25/08
I'm with Ryan too  Ed Lin | 06/25/08
I agree  laura.b | 06/26/08
You mean like Microsoft  rhabkirk@... | 06/26/08
On the mark but not quite right  Wayne Reid | 06/26/08
In all that gobbledygook, did you really say something?  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
??????????  Userama | 02/13/09
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  Bozzer | 06/24/08
lock-in?  Ed Lin | 06/25/08
The obvious one  rtk | 06/28/08
Not obvious when...  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
A distinction without a difference.  wolf_z | 02/13/09
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  jfp | 06/24/08
Bravo!  ladyirol | 06/25/08
Hey, at least you got Quicktime!  TripleII | 06/24/08
Wrong  frgough | 06/24/08
Umm 1000's would be better  socialism=nowhere | 06/25/08
Here's a question for you...  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
re: Wrong  M.R. Kennedy | 06/25/08
Quicktime is no longer like that  Ed Lin | 06/25/08
The truth will hurt if you know.  AdventTech67 | 07/23/08
How does ZDNet get away with linkbait like this?  Lun_Esex | 06/24/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  incidentist | 06/24/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  ZenMasta | 06/24/08
re: iTunes Services  Badgered | 06/24/08
Simple asnwer...  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  jake_11 | 06/24/08
hmm  Badgered | 06/24/08
Correction  celeriun@... | 06/24/08
And yet..  msalzberg | 06/24/08
Correction  celeriun@... | 06/24/08
I wouldn't call...  msalzberg | 06/24/08
WGA is new sotftware  rpmyers1 | 06/24/08
WGA not new software  celeriun@... | 06/24/08
No, it was not part..  msalzberg | 06/24/08
Know your software  celeriun@... | 06/24/08
I could be wrong...  msalzberg | 06/24/08
No, YOU "know your software"  /A\V/ | 06/25/08
re: No, YOU "know your software"  Badgered | 06/25/08
determine whether a... copy of Windows is legal or not  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
How many times does WGA have to verify that my Windows installation  AdventTech67 | 07/23/08
I have a question  laura.b | 06/25/08
ipod service running as localsystem  Ryan Naraine ZDNet Moderator | 06/24/08
apple needs to fix that, true  Ed Lin | 06/25/08
This is just plain rude  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
A response from StopBadware.org  Ryan Naraine ZDNet Moderator | 06/24/08
Still Not Enough  Harry Bardal | 06/24/08
It shouldn't be there at all  Ryan Naraine ZDNet Moderator | 06/24/08
What the hell are you on about  Kaiwai | 06/24/08
Pay attention please  Ryan Naraine ZDNet Moderator | 06/24/08
NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO INSTALL IT!  Kaiwai | 06/24/08
Not security updates, agree with Ryan  AySz88 | 06/24/08
yea but  dave@... | 06/25/08
Ryan is right, period. nt  socialism=nowhere | 06/25/08
So, the next time someone  alaniane@... | 06/26/08
i suppose  richvball44 | 06/24/08
RE: No they are not  JakAttak | 06/25/08
Not The Issue  Harry Bardal | 06/24/08
It's nothing personal  balaknair | 06/25/08
Contradictory  Harry Bardal | 06/25/08
It is not the platform  Real World | 06/25/08
Not My Argument  Harry Bardal | 06/26/08
you're not getting it  Real World | 06/27/08
With all due respect...  wolf_z | 02/13/09
So Ryan you uncheck what you don't want.  AdventTech67 | 07/23/08
What if people don't know what's involved?  Li1t | 08/28/08
You started with a false premise.  xuniL_z | 06/24/08
Laundry List  Harry Bardal | 06/25/08
I agree, but...  ladyirol | 06/25/08
Reading their response i find 2 things interesting...  jjarman | 06/26/08
Yup... and I see...  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  jake_11 | 06/24/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  celeriun@... | 06/24/08
What is wrong?  Kaiwai | 06/24/08
I will tell you what is wrong  Confused by religion | 06/24/08
ARE THY FORCING YOU TO INSTALL IT?  Kaiwai | 06/24/08
I shouldn't have to DESELECT anything, and this function is for UPDATES  Roque Mocan | 06/24/08
Tard...  rzrwire@... | 06/25/08
So you like unwanted software?  ZDarryl | 06/25/08
So riddle me this..  msalzberg | 06/24/08
answer  Badgered | 06/25/08
re: So riddle me this..  M.R. Kennedy | 06/25/08
Good question....  i8thecat | 06/26/08
Did you know that...  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
Don't you want Safari to beat out Internet Explorer???  GiveMeGizmos | 06/24/08
You have it backwards  ZDarryl | 06/25/08
Wrong. It was not "automatically installing"...  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
No  wolf_z | 02/13/09
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  celeriun@... | 06/24/08
OS X Office patch with IE5 install selected by default  NonZealot | 06/24/08
And where was the outrage...  msalzberg | 06/24/08
If I downloaded a media player  Michael Kelly | 06/24/08
I see no difference..  msalzberg | 06/25/08
So then I take it  Michael Kelly | 06/25/08
Very bad simile.  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
So you like unwanted software  ZDarryl | 06/25/08
re: I see no difference...  M.R. Kennedy | 06/25/08
No, what he's saying is that it's "precisely the same"  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
Oh, please  laura.b | 06/25/08
I see no difference...  rtk | 06/28/08
Two points  balaknair | 06/25/08
OMG - if that were the case you would think they asked for a limb..nt  socialism=nowhere | 06/25/08
automatic software updaters -- PLEASE NOOOOO!  cornpie | 06/24/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  SquishyParts | 06/24/08
Why nobody points a finger towards Microsoft  tnsenthil | 06/24/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  mister-moon | 06/25/08
For heavens sake man, just uncheck the damned things....  BitTwiddler | 06/25/08
You are missing the point!  ZDarryl | 06/25/08
"When in Rome..."  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 06/25/08
re: Silverlight anyone?  Badgered | 06/25/08
Negative  rzrwire@... | 06/25/08
re: "When in Rome..."  M.R. Kennedy | 06/25/08
They get "away" with it?  JakAttak | 06/25/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  MichaelWells | 06/25/08
Badware behavior  M.R. Kennedy | 06/25/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  ZDarryl | 06/25/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  peripo | 06/25/08
RE: correction  JakAttak | 06/25/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  aodonnell | 06/25/08
?  peripo | 06/25/08
Come on, even a Troll knows...  wolf_z | 02/13/09
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  ZDarryl | 06/25/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  cwallen19803@... | 06/25/08
Yeah, it sucks, but ditto on Windows sad  SteveMak | 06/25/08
Ahhh, the voice of reason  peripo | 06/25/08
Misguided...  rzrwire@... | 06/25/08
You are incorrect  SteveMak | 06/26/08
No, that's misleading  laura.b | 06/26/08
I refute this with one application...  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
I monitor the updates coming from windows  socialism=nowhere | 06/25/08
You are missing the point!  ZDarryl | 06/25/08
I see your point  SteveMak | 06/26/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  mydigitaltrashcan@... | 06/25/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  1337pc.net | 06/25/08
Explain something  laura.b | 06/25/08
......  Badgered | 06/25/08
The question remains, why should we have to...?  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
Quicktime screwing Vista  nj_lockwood@... | 06/25/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  MgrCompCentre | 06/25/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  Chiatzu | 06/25/08
happy Don't be surprised...  ladyirol | 06/25/08
Microsoft has been doing this for years!  iWASaPC | 06/25/08
Reading for comprehension  M.R. Kennedy | 06/25/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  mpitone | 06/25/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  iWASaPC | 06/25/08
Sheeple (Apple/sheep/people)  koolbass@... | 06/25/08
Tacky...  ladyirol | 06/25/08
re: Sheeple  Badgered | 06/26/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  spikedstrider | 06/25/08
Working together...  M.R. Kennedy | 06/25/08
'Splain to me ...  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
Well, I guess that's the price one must pay for "free" software  JohnMcGrew@... | 06/25/08
Apple is the 21st Century Microsoft  Joop deBruin | 06/25/08
Naughty, naughtly Apple, not playing fair!!!  Raid6 | 06/25/08
Good post  balaknair | 06/25/08
Yay!  ju1ce | 06/25/08
your post has some truth, most false, like most propaganda  Ed Lin | 06/25/08
So much time spent for no value  Raid6 | 06/25/08
it would be nice if you actually point out where I'm wrong  Ed Lin | 06/26/08
Yet another refutation...  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
Shame on that person who invested all that money in Apple!  ladyirol | 06/25/08
Are you....?  Raid6 | 06/26/08
woosh!  Ed Lin | 06/26/08
Ooooh! An itemized complaint!  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
What frightens me is...  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
RE: How does Microsoft get away with this badware behavior?  knot44 | 06/25/08
How is MS pushing Silverlight?  Raid6 | 06/25/08
Wrong answer  Michael Kelly | 02/13/09
It's not  rapson | 06/25/08
Come on...  info@... | 06/25/08
It's their Business Model, Stupid  kfestus@... | 06/25/08
Full-Court Press  justwait | 06/25/08
Why? Because MS set this standard long ago.  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 06/25/08
uMM..barring WGA... you make no point.  JT82 | 06/25/08
The above should have been a reply to Kid Icarus..NT  JT82 | 06/25/08
So, don't install good products on POS systems  Professor8 | 06/25/08
This is a typical Apple zealot  Raid6 | 06/25/08
there, I fixed it for you  Ed Lin | 06/26/08
Not synonymous  laura.b | 06/26/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  1031982 | 06/25/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  z33511@... | 06/25/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  john_gillespie@... | 06/25/08
Obviously you dont use windows..  JT82 | 06/25/08
Right  john_gillespie@... | 06/25/08
same thing  jjarman | 06/26/08
Apple gets off clean all the time  NameRedacted | 06/25/08
Exactly  john_gillespie@... | 06/25/08
Funny...  ladyirol | 06/25/08
re: Funny...  Badgered | 06/26/08
Slow news day?  mlindl | 06/25/08
re: Slow news day?  Badgered | 06/25/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  john_gillespie@... | 06/25/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  pjones | 06/25/08
because Apple poos gold or so their customers think. happy  Brissietex | 06/25/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  mcs74177@... | 06/25/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  donaldcarroll | 06/25/08
An issue with Quick Time  Raid6 | 06/26/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  lostinspace | 06/26/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  james@... | 06/26/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  1031982 | 06/26/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  shanedr | 06/26/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  navinsamuel | 06/26/08
re: Thinking  Badgered | 06/26/08
Wrong!  Raid6 | 06/26/08
Computer illiteracy is not an excuse for stupidity.  Mercat | 06/27/08
re: Computer illiteracy is not an excuse  Badgered | 06/27/08
I remember...  Mercat | 06/27/08
re: I remember...  Badgered | 06/27/08
Lets try this:  Mercat | 06/27/08
A *lot* of PC enthusiasts seem to have time on their hands...  bill_abbott_iv | 06/27/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  terminalman | 06/28/08
Master Joe Says...  MasterJoe | 06/28/08
you're so right Master Joe  Digitalcomet | 06/30/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  creep144 | 06/30/08
RE: How does Apple get away with this badware behavior?  vulpine@... | 07/08/08
Ryan, Ryan, Ryan, you've done it again.  AdventTech67 | 07/23/08
This Behavior Is Unacceptable  Cardhu | 09/23/08
Same reason Microsoft does!  jacarter3 | 02/13/09
Not "badware"  Metronome49 | 02/13/09
RE: How did you earn your 'Journalism' Degrees? At MS degrees night schoo  gennx30 | 08/12/09

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