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We needed another laugh.
Jeff Jones' "report" is total nonsense. As we speak it is being sent to the BS-logic shredder of the Internet and will come out the other end in its true form, lies. But we may soon expect an in-depth analysis by Rob Enderle, Michael Gartenberg and Randall Kennedy. They will come to the defense of Jeff Jones and their analysis will show solid methods as work. The only difference between this report and their everyday work is that they get paid before they write it, not after.
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More preaching to the converted  Chad_z | 01/24/08
Why more microsoft computers get infected  gtg781w | 01/24/08
What metric should be used?  Larry Dignan ZDNet Moderator | 01/24/08
For a start.  slopoke | 01/24/08
Can you say lawsuit?  LiquidLearner | 01/26/08
Metrics  gtg781w | 01/24/08
there should be no metric used  voska1 | 01/24/08
its no different than a car company crash testing their vehicles  pcguy777 | 01/25/08
Being able to out-code ....  wackoae | 01/25/08
Not at all  pablo Dante | 01/28/08
No effective way to use metrics  ilovebacon | 01/24/08
I would like to see required user interaction...  bjbrock | 01/25/08
Metrics  nilotpal_c | 01/25/08
Well look at the actual # of exploits...  mrOSX | 01/25/08
Show me a virus-infected Linux box run as user  Don Collins | 01/24/08
Not sure if this answers your question but ...  markbn | 01/24/08
Ironically enough....  bportlock | 01/25/08
Comprimized passwords...  bjbrock | 01/25/08
No one really knows...  bportlock | 01/25/08
is still do it sometimes  pcguy777 | 01/25/08
If Linux gets widely used  gtg781w | 01/24/08
I doubt it will happen.  TripleII | 01/24/08
A few comments  rarsa | 01/25/08
yet another reason to use Windows Vista.  qmlscycrajg | 01/28/08
That wouldn't really work either  notsofast | 01/25/08
We needed another laugh.  kozmcrae | 01/24/08
The facts are, it has had less patchs and vunrabilities  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/24/08
Actually  CMKRNL | 01/24/08
Bad analogy....  techboy_z | 01/24/08
service pack 3 for XP  pcguy777 | 01/25/08
I agree, but...  LiquidLearner | 01/26/08
Apples to Oranges  shis-ka-bob | 01/24/08
No, Windows has more.  TripleII | 01/24/08
This has been argued about before...  olePigeon | 01/24/08
The known patched vulnerbilities mean nothing  voska1 | 01/24/08
Spin all ya like, it doesn't change the facts on record.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/24/08
Methinks...  ego.sum.stig@... | 01/24/08
The facts don't mean anything  voska1 | 01/24/08
Vista built on top of XP which was patched...  bjbrock | 01/25/08
On that train of thought...  ego.sum.stig@... | 01/25/08
Fox News  thungurknifur | 01/25/08
Meaning?  CobraA1 | 01/25/08
Do you agree with the correlation?  rarsa | 01/25/08
Sorry, Still Sticking To XP  itanalyst | 01/24/08
Agree  Roderick.Jameson@... | 01/24/08
Then why...  Qbt | 01/24/08
You end up with a lovefest.  TripleII | 01/24/08
So...  Qbt | 01/24/08
You're missing one point  Roderick.Jameson@... | 01/24/08
UAC  gtg781w | 01/24/08
It's been done, over and over.  TripleII | 01/24/08
Useless measuring patches  voska1 | 01/24/08
ReadyBoost  gtg781w | 01/24/08
What is Readyboost  Roderick.Jameson@... | 01/24/08
Link  gtg781w | 01/24/08
Thanks for the link  Roderick.Jameson@... | 01/24/08
So secure it does not let you do anything  Roderick.Jameson@... | 01/24/08
Vista security: Badly baked into the kernel  Roderick.Jameson@... | 01/24/08
Jeff Jones knows nothing about Linux  Don Collins | 01/24/08
What a shame . . .  TechExec2 | 01/24/08
Good job Mr. Dignan  dfolk | 01/24/08
Apples to Oranges....  techboy_z | 01/24/08
I'd bet that z/OS or z/VM is more secure  magcomment | 01/24/08
Haha...NOT!!  techboy_z | 01/24/08
NOT to you too!  slopoke | 01/24/08
Not to be elitist or anything...  ego.sum.stig@... | 01/24/08
it all goes back to the user  Frabba | 01/24/08
I agree  gtg781w | 01/24/08
How does it stack up against z/OS ?  magcomment | 01/24/08
Whoa, buddy....  techboy_z | 01/24/08
since when SOmeone at MS can say a one thing  Quebec-french | 01/24/08
Anyone want to...  Jeremy W | 01/24/08
take that Vista haters!  qmlscycrajg | 01/25/08
RE: Jeff Jones (err Microsoft): Vista more secure than everything  nilotpal_c | 01/25/08
Oops incomplete link  nilotpal_c | 01/25/08
RHEL's numbers mean they are more active...  bjbrock | 01/25/08
Compare the HISTORY, not the present release  davidr69 | 01/25/08
RE: Jeff Jones (err Microsoft): Vista more secure than everything  as901 | 01/25/08
From security point of view, Vista is better.  TripleII | 01/25/08
Linux has been doing that for years...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 01/25/08
You are right, Trip  Ole Man | 01/25/08
microsoft gets a bye on this one.  pcguy777 | 01/25/08
RE: Jeff Jones (err Microsoft): Vista more secure than everything  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/25/08
RE: Security in General  oregonnerd13 | 01/25/08
Definetly more secure  bikerpappy@... | 01/25/08
You are confusing security with stability  rarsa | 01/25/08
The last chart  rarsa | 01/25/08
Interesting  CobraA1 | 01/25/08
Mactards have issues with math  JABBER_WOLF | 01/25/08
It's not quite that straight forward.  t3h | 01/26/08
Of course Vista is secure...... for Microsoft  Ole Man | 01/25/08
Shame on you ! You are using the C-word again; CUSTOMER.  hkommedal | 01/27/08
I stand properly chastened  Ole Man | 01/30/08
RE: Jeff Jones (err Microsoft): Vista more secure than everything  randmart@... | 01/25/08
That's not how I've read it prior to this  notsofast | 01/25/08
I'll keep my XP for now. Besides...  JCitizen | 01/25/08
... but look at how many went unfixed!  t3h | 01/26/08
Full Disclosure: I work for Microsoft  Ole Man | 01/27/08
Vista and XP more secure than everything  pablo Dante | 01/28/08

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