It simply doesn't matter. Better security
No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/22/07
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i hate myself for this...
Monkey_MCSE | 06/22/07
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Not really
No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/22/07
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If their issue is not wanting to alert hackers
Michael Kelly | 06/22/07
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No argument from me really, but...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/22/07
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You don't even have to get that detailed
Michael Kelly | 06/22/07
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Like I said, no real argtument from me. (nt)
No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/22/07
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Yeah...
zkiwi | 06/22/07
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yeah
xuniL_z | 06/23/07
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HAHAHA, yeah, just spin yourself right around
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 06/23/07
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since you brought it up,
xuniL_z | 06/23/07
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Uhmmm OK?
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 06/25/07
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Spin?
zkiwi | 06/23/07
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well
xuniL_z | 06/23/07
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Yes, delusional
zkiwi | 06/24/07
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wrong
xuniL_z | 06/24/07
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Keep on spinning
zkiwi | 06/24/07
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keep being trite.
xuniL_z | 06/24/07
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He is full of it!
Linux User 147560 | 06/22/07
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Pitifull attempt to distort the truth!
ShadeTree | 06/22/07
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i've said it before...
Monkey_MCSE | 06/22/07
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You say I am the daft one...
ShadeTree | 06/22/07
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I understood his post.
I am Gorby | 06/23/07
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Man did you totally miss the short bus on this one!
Linux User 147560 | 06/22/07
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Your the one that missed the bus and the story
ShadeTree | 06/22/07
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Yes they are...
Linux User 147560 | 06/22/07
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Yes you can do this!
ShadeTree | 06/22/07
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By your line of argument
Michael Kelly | 06/22/07
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No you can't...
Linux User 147560 | 06/22/07
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Oh and one more thing
Linux User 147560 | 06/22/07
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Sure you can fix OSS software silently
xuniL_z | 06/23/07
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Why argue
DemonX | 06/22/07
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Honesty and responsibility
Michael Kelly | 06/22/07
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Because that is not the point
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 06/23/07
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Sysprogs always check the Known Error Logs (KEL)
I am Gorby | 06/23/07
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There is no difference.
xuniL_z | 06/23/07
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You read it again....
xuniL_z | 06/25/07
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Message has been deleted.
zetra001 | 06/22/07
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MS reports Windows better! Surprise!
bahamude | 06/22/07
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You fall into your own trap
mdemuth | 06/22/07
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Your "yard stick" is meaningless in the real world
No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/22/07
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Plus . . .
JLHenry | 06/22/07
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Microsoft right to patch flaws without notice.
ShadeTree | 06/22/07
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The other side of the coin
Ryan Naraine  | 06/22/07
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You're right on target Ryan , keep up the good work .
I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 06/22/07
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The answer to the big question...
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 06/22/07
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I would think
DemonX | 06/22/07
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Himmler said...
I am Gorby | 06/23/07
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You should be more carefull also
ShadeTree | 06/25/07
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Yep! Got me.
I am Gorby | 06/25/07
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One more to add to that side of the coin
tic swayback | 06/22/07
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lol
Jack-Booted EULA | 06/22/07
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And ....
Linux_4u! | 06/22/07
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I disagree.
ShadeTree | 06/22/07
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Somebody always knows there is a flaw
Michael Kelly | 06/22/07
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When that somebody is the person responsible ...
ShadeTree | 06/22/07
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But how did THAT person find out
Michael Kelly | 06/22/07
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This story piggybacks off of Ryan's initial ...
ShadeTree | 06/22/07
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Re: This story piggybacks off of Ryan's initial
Michael Kelly | 06/22/07
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Shadey, you're having a bad day!
I am Gorby | 06/23/07
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One more time
zkiwi | 06/22/07
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They know by testing the patches and ..
ShadeTree | 06/22/07
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Yes
zkiwi | 06/23/07
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zkiwi, please
xuniL_z | 06/23/07
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Missing the point completely
tic swayback | 06/22/07
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I am saying the PR campaign compares a ...
ShadeTree | 06/22/07
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But you are also saying that statistic is meaningless
tic swayback | 06/22/07
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Dude, get your head out of your ARSE!!
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 06/22/07
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You have managed to drag the discussion ....
ShadeTree | 06/22/07
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Congratulations, on completely missing the point!!
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 06/22/07
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Flaws that have been . . .
JLHenry | 06/22/07
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Elliminate the softener
John L. Ries | 06/22/07
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Unreasonable
Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/22/07
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Trust must be earned
tic swayback | 06/22/07
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Then why do you trust Apple so much?
ShadeTree | 06/22/07
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I trust no one
tic swayback | 06/22/07
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Rules of evidence
Yagotta B. Kidding | 06/22/07
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I can handle withholding of information
Michael Kelly | 06/22/07
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Corporations
John L. Ries | 06/22/07
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What's obvious is that even after
xuniL_z | 06/26/07
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So
zkiwi | 06/27/07
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How does not knowing about an undisclosed ....
ShadeTree | 06/22/07
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Good points, but not quite right
Ryan Naraine | 06/22/07
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You are left to decide the patch based on what is documented.
ShadeTree | 06/22/07
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and if the silent fix stops one of your
deaf_e_kate | 06/22/07
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Expensive Complexity
Mikael_z | 06/23/07
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Microsoft does test their patches ...
ShadeTree | 06/25/07
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Oh count the number of Windows installs that have been borked
Linux User 147560 | 06/22/07
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If you are testing the patches your install does not ...
ShadeTree | 06/22/07
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Are you completely missing the point
deaf_e_kate | 06/22/07
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They are talking about silent fixes that are ...
ShadeTree | 06/25/07
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Side-effects and mitigation
mosborne | 06/22/07
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If the bad guys are not told about the flaw ...
ShadeTree | 06/22/07
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If the good guys are not told about the flaw ...
Michael Kelly | 06/22/07
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Oh yes they do.
ShadeTree | 06/25/07
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That's quite naive
mosborne | 06/22/07
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If the bad guys know about the flaw ...
ShadeTree | 06/25/07
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It might be somewhat different
tombalablomba | 06/22/07
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Message has been deleted.
Intellihence | 06/22/07
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LOOK EVERYONE!@#*&#@#! HE MENTIONS ME!!!
Loverock Davidson | 06/22/07
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Don't let it get to your head L.D.
I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 06/22/07
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Yep, he named the retard
jasonp@... | 06/22/07
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You didn't have to be quite so hard on L.D. you know .
Intellihence | 06/22/07
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The tool of the century won't go away.
xuniL_z | 06/23/07
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If my posts are zero then why do you continue to respond to them ?
Intellihence | 06/25/07
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Flaw count
hairyR | 06/22/07
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Serves the security industry right.
osreinstall | 06/22/07
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Inspiration
THEE WOLF | 06/22/07
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Easy Enough
daMan25 | 06/22/07
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Unbiased Observations from a month of reading
Too_Busy_To_Be_Here | 06/23/07
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It's sick Microsoft won't follow up on their products.
HypnoToad72 | 06/23/07
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"Microsoft Frowns on iDefense Hacking Challenge"
ruped24 | 06/23/07
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Is this really a good thing?
brokndodge@... | 06/24/07
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No hidden flaws, just hidden greatness...
Mike Cox | 06/24/07
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9.5
shallow_diver | 06/25/07
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Dude, you are the WOW of ZDNet!!
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 06/25/07
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