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Want to eliminate BotNets and all this crap?
It's really easy, it takes a router expert and the will to force ISPs to take control of their networks. It works, I have personally forced several ISPs to disable spammers from their networks, it just comes down to sheer force of will on the part of Govt to mandate ISPs do something about spammers.

Here's the deal, if I work for Time Warner Cable, for example. I am allowed by management (the new Govt mandate where sticking your head in the sand and doing nothing doesn't fly anymore).

I monitor for spammers and botnets and networks coming into my network, and one by one, the routing entries for those domains disappears, thrown into the big bitbucket in the sky.

I monitor for botnets I serve, and with software tools, each computer becomes blocked, banned from internet access until such time as the computer is dis-infected or de-0wned. That's where the will comes in. They can identify these 0wned computers easily, but it is worth more to them to allow the spamming computer to access the network and get their money than it is to deal with angry customers who are told their access is blocked until they resolve their security issues.

Now, I would suspect DRAMATIC resistance from one OS company to a plan such as this because outside of technical circles, the incredible scale of 0wned computers is not known by the general public.

In any event, if I was IT manager for Time Warner Cable, and had 200 experienced techs, spam streams originating in my network would be virtually eliminated, and streams of spam crap coming in from overseas would be well on it's way to being a don't care, both of which happening within 2 weeks.

The problem is, no one seems to want to address the real problem, tens or many tens of millions of 0wned machines.

TripleII
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Want to eliminate BotNets and all this crap?  TripleII | 06/11/07
Any and all feedback appreciated  TripleII | 06/11/07
Well, not EXACTLY true, TripleII.  OButterball | 06/11/07
Not EXACTLY true, Butterball  critic-at-arms | 06/11/07
Even if the OS is bulletproof (not really possible), ...  OButterball | 06/11/07
RE: Even if the OS is ...  GreyGeek | 06/11/07
Yeah, yer right about SE being too labor intensive ...  OButterball | 06/11/07
"the OS"  ubaz2 | 06/12/07
You don't hear about Mac or Linux zombie farms because...  robert@... | 06/28/07
social engineering  zoroaster | 06/11/07
I agree, but read my response to GreyGeek, above (NT)  OButterball | 06/11/07
With humna diseases....  bportlock | 06/12/07
In regards to spam  Suicida| | 06/12/07
Only to a point  flhtc | 06/11/07
RE: Only to a point  GreyGeek | 06/11/07
RE: Re: Only to a point  flhtc | 06/12/07
malware on other systems  zoroaster | 06/11/07
One OS, and other thoughts  TripleII | 06/11/07
agree, with slight mod  jefmud | 06/11/07
I Agree  TripleII | 06/11/07
Be better to just limit them to port 80 through a proxy  Been_Done_Before | 06/11/07
And that's what is needed  TripleII | 06/11/07
Why not?  Linux User 147560 | 06/11/07
Do not block. Just slow them down.  osreinstall | 06/11/07
Excellent, part II, feedback coming up!  TripleII | 06/11/07
Not quite. Must be a little more subtle.  osreinstall | 06/11/07
Pretty sure that won't work  FatherJ | 06/12/07
Yes it will  osreinstall | 06/12/07
Try again  FatherJ | 06/12/07
The only solution you offer is, it will not work.  osreinstall | 06/12/07
SBC used to inject their AV ware into the DSL installation...  JCitizen | 06/12/07
Angry customers.  Henry Miller | 06/11/07
I concur...  zkiwi | 06/11/07
Yep, that can happen  TripleII | 06/11/07
Wrong target  brad@... | 06/11/07
easy to fix the isp could use the mac address instead of the ip  SO.CAL Guy | 06/11/07
I have a better idea  Tranman123 | 06/11/07
Would that we could  TripleII | 06/11/07
how do users 'fix' their machine?  zoroaster | 06/11/07
Not fully fleshed out  TripleII | 06/11/07
how do users 'fix' their machine easy it called restore  SO.CAL Guy | 06/11/07
FIX? / Restore? / How about prevent?  Ken E | 06/11/07
FIX? / Restore? / How about prevent?  SO.CAL Guy | 06/11/07
It's pretty sad  tracy anne | 06/11/07
Microsoft can't bundle anti-virus software into windows  SO.CAL Guy | 06/11/07
os patched?  On Site PC | 09/26/07
No tech solution to a political problem  cls@... | 06/11/07
nice point!  gare | 06/11/07
Bunk Analysis  daMan25 | 06/11/07
The shark is never satiated  cls@... | 06/11/07
then why the suggestions  DanLM | 06/11/07
But, They might make more  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 06/15/07
I agree with your reasoning...  TheGratefulNed | 06/11/07
This makes no sense what-so-ever  FatherJ | 06/12/07
WRONG!!!  support@... | 06/12/07
Somebody should tell CompuServe about ISP responsibility  archetuthus | 06/11/07
Would you buy a socket set at Toys R Us?  cls@... | 06/11/07
Classify Spammers as Terrorists  toothman@... | 06/11/07
toothman for prez!  tek_heretik | 06/11/07
Botnets  Rocker452 | 06/11/07
big email is arranged  cls@... | 06/11/07
Not to mention  Freebird54 | 06/12/07
Who Responsible?  RKaiser@... | 06/11/07
YOU are responsbile for stopping these attacks.  llowell@... | 06/11/07
Don't agree - not the end-user's responsibility  brendthess | 06/11/07
You are responsbile  tjpurdy | 06/11/07
You're both right....  rpotter@... | 06/11/07
Explain that to an 80 year old talking to her grandkids  DanLM | 06/11/07
How about help them?  TripleII | 06/11/07
80? (Why stop there?)  Mihi Nomen Est | 06/11/07
Lack of understanding cross's all boundries  DanLM | 06/11/07
Botnet assault: Spammers launch DDoS offensive  hmedia | 06/11/07
tough one...  zoroaster | 06/11/07
Good luck Spamhaus.  phatkat | 06/11/07
victims  tjpurdy | 06/11/07
Fight Back  desertcities@... | 06/11/07
the the isp's the the drone computers would block them from the Internet  SO.CAL Guy | 06/11/07
My reply was specific  DanLM | 06/11/07
dog gone it  DanLM | 06/11/07
LOL, caught it anyway.  TripleII | 06/11/07
Blue security gave up too easily  CobraA1 | 06/11/07
Throw them in the slammer for 20 years.  kraterz | 06/11/07
A bullet to the head, NOT jail time  bowenw@... | 06/12/07
Sooner, the better security defenses our are  intrepi@... | 06/11/07
There Are Two Sides To Every Story  clarrieu | 06/11/07
There Are Two Sides To Every Story  cchamb2 | 06/12/07
You Tell ME  clarrieu | 06/13/07
This is why companies are pushing SPF and DomainKeys  CobraA1 | 06/14/07
Been attacked  mcphoto | 06/12/07
spamcop  tjpurdy | 06/12/07
Security, OS market share, blah, blah, blah  TSMoore | 06/12/07
Spam Spyware Etc  Tom in Toronto | 06/12/07
I would prefer the inconvenience of being blocked...  5445mlbvd2gn@... | 06/12/07
Perhaps they're not that helpless  5445mlbvd2gn@... | 06/12/07
Cyber Sleuthes and Bot Attacks!  activelymindfull@... | 06/15/07
Just horrible  John Musbach | 11/28/07

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