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The user should have the option of installing a program without administrator privileges. If the installer then tries to change things it's not allowed to, the user can then be notified and asked to approve the change (assuming he/she has appropriate authority to do so).
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Vista is all about DRM  whisperycat | 02/13/07
no matter how cynical you get it's impossible to keep up  broadway al | 02/13/07
Same song, millionth verse...  bpolhemus@... | 02/13/07
Leftists are ignorant?  salimbag | 02/13/07
Fees??  ericseba | 02/14/07
Per machine, not per Windows license  mds_z | 02/15/07
Correction  mds_z | 02/15/07
Proof?  ericseba | 02/16/07
Why they agreed to that.  Spiritusindomit@... | 05/21/08
You've proven his point  mrleo1957 | 02/14/07
Monopoly - definition  Dr. John | 02/14/07
Odd...  Dr. John | 02/14/07
It's not an agreement everyone has  Spiritusindomit@... | 05/21/08
wow...where is rod serling... cuz we must be in the twilight zone  jmelnik | 03/09/07
Re: same song, millionth verse  alflanagan | 02/14/07
Typical MSFT Attitude  Chad_z | 02/13/07
She's right  John L. Ries | 02/13/07
There are plenty of programs that don't need installation  georgeou | 02/13/07
Just a question...  zkiwi | 02/13/07
Installer needs admin, runtime does not  georgeou | 02/13/07
That's the problem: stupid installers  Leria | 02/14/07
Sims  Dr. John | 02/14/07
Have to disagree, in part...  3D0G | 02/14/07
I agree  Computer_User_1024 | 02/13/07
It's a choice, not a hole  georgeou | 02/13/07
I have to take exception to this phrase  Scrat | 02/13/07
But I can give you several examples  georgeou | 02/13/07
What about developer tools?  Mr_Dave | 02/13/07
It isn't a matter of dev. tools  Mark Miller | 02/14/07
Or a problem with MS security  mds_z | 02/15/07
the mac ad says it better  broadway al | 02/13/07
Adds are for the simple minded.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/13/07
And if you think I can't bring a Mac to it's knees ...  mrlinux | 02/13/07
So, in your hypothetical example the Mac is copying Vista?  Still Lynn | 02/14/07
simple minded  broadway al | 02/14/07
All the experts say Vista is more secure.  georgeou | 02/13/07
Dave (MS Zealot) Maynor?  Rick_K | 02/13/07
Feature comparison  Ryan Naraine ZDNet Moderator | 02/13/07
Over the Line Journalism  yyuko@... | 02/13/07
hrmm..  dmaynor | 02/13/07
Take your choice  klumper | 02/13/07
C'mon yyuko...  Dr. John | 02/14/07
How Do You Know?  Ole Man | 02/13/07
"expert"?  drew1313 | 02/13/07
ONE PERSON = All the experts?  V-Train | 02/14/07
Experts?  Mercat | 02/15/07
Security really isn't everything  larry@... | 02/13/07
Secure and usability  terrym@... | 02/14/07
A voice of reason...  Dr. John | 02/14/07
Metaphorically a problem.  CyeKat | 05/02/07
There is such a thing.  Dr. John | 02/14/07
Why should it be a choice?  bportlock | 02/13/07
Because, silly...  Dr. John | 02/14/07
numerous choices  zoroaster | 02/13/07
An old joke  solyom@... | 02/15/07
There goes ZDNet again  Jaschink | 02/13/07
Just switch to MAC or LINUX  kokuryu | 02/13/07
How Apple's security functions  GuidingLight | 02/13/07
You're either living in Fantasyland...  Gordon Gonsalves | 02/13/07
Your the one living a Fantasy  jnimble | 02/14/07
Vista Most Secure?  mwiley_z | 02/14/07
It was the most secure ever.  Dr. John | 02/14/07
Before posting please understand what can you are opening...  Mercat | 02/14/07
I apologise...  Gordon Gonsalves | 02/15/07
How is this different from Mac installers?  rlawler | 02/14/07
it depends...  impala_sc | 02/14/07
You're right about OS X installers...  Gordon Gonsalves | 02/15/07
Sort of  maldain | 02/13/07
Yes, no, and sometimes...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 02/13/07
Hacker - Vista design flaw.  jnlubken@... | 02/13/07
Vista's security must be pretty good given all the FUD...  ye | 02/13/07
Perhaps that explains...  zkiwi | 02/13/07
Re: Vista's security must...  alflanagan | 02/14/07
It's not the discussions that are FUD. It's the...  ye | 02/14/07
The more secure your operating system is the more public each flaw becomes  MacGeek2121 | 02/14/07
Ya know, if it weren't for all the ranting  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 02/13/07
She complains of MS's Attitude!  andrej770 | 02/13/07
Ah-1, ah2, ah3, rah rah rah, yeeeaahh! Microsoft  Ole Man | 02/13/07
Taken from the original chant  John Zern | 02/13/07
mean way to say right thing  blindguyinanorgy@... | 02/14/07
In general there two levels of installation - period  FirstNLastN | 02/13/07
UAC is Microsoft's sudo  osreinstall | 02/13/07
Not quite the same  TtfnJohn | 02/13/07
Sure it is.  osreinstall | 02/13/07
But with Linux...  KWierso | 03/09/07
It's not automatic/You misunderstand  toadlife | 02/14/07
I can't decide  wjkahlssmd@... | 02/14/07
The pragmatic side  osreinstall | 02/14/07
The Ludicrous Side  Dr. John | 02/14/07
You are not too bright.  osreinstall | 02/14/07
Vista and XP  alaniane@... | 08/30/07
Leave her alone!!!  yyuko@... | 02/13/07
I wish I had your faith...  bpolhemus@... | 02/13/07
I'm with yyuko  Tranman123 | 02/13/07
Not relevant to the conversation  John L. Ries | 02/13/07
The thing is...  bpolhemus@... | 02/14/07
You shoulda been...  Dr. John | 02/14/07
??  dmaynor | 02/13/07
Hmmm  maldain | 02/13/07
Kind of  Nemglan | 02/14/07
Message has been deleted.  hegira1 | 02/13/07
Security is a matter of desire, and M$ isn't remotely interested  njic@... | 02/13/07
You think your average geek user could care less about security  mrjonno | 02/13/07
One big difference . . .  njic@... | 02/13/07
That...  IAHawkeye | 02/14/07
Where is Non Zealot on this one then! Tossing  hirez | 02/13/07
Wil this problem be fixed in Windows 7?  B.O.F.H. | 02/13/07
Focus  a_lesueur@... | 02/13/07
MS = BS  ghot@... | 02/13/07
You should...  IAHawkeye | 02/14/07
This is completely damning.  Resuna | 02/13/07
INSTALLERS!!!  TacoSauce | 02/13/07
Two bad choices don't = a good choice  ghot@... | 02/13/07
I used to feel your pain....  IAHawkeye | 02/14/07
history of ms os  impala_sc | 02/14/07
A few you missed  alaniane@... | 08/30/07
UAC Vulnerability?  danzig6 | 02/13/07
There goes MS again  solar_satellite | 02/13/07
I really LIKE Joanna Rutkowska!  Jeff Hayes | 02/13/07
Not to mention...  bpolhemus@... | 02/14/07
Cancel or Allow  Reverend MacFellow | 02/13/07
Love the "Security" Apple ad  Richard Flude | 02/14/07
She looks like Q in a wig!  Reverend MacFellow | 02/13/07
If only MS TRIED to make Windows secure  Macheads | 02/14/07
Just in the numbers  O_tempore_o_more | 02/14/07
Russinovich and sysinternals  doas777 | 02/14/07
Does she not understand the purpose of UAC?  TasteeWheat | 02/14/07
Ever heard of...  IAHawkeye | 02/14/07
Two different issues  TasteeWheat | 02/14/07
Actually, I don't  alaniane@... | 08/30/07
So what? It's Microsoft be damned no matter what.  Winfan | 02/14/07
Hello  IAHawkeye | 02/14/07
Linux and Mac require administrative privileges to install software too  mail880277@... | 02/14/07
Have even used OS-X or Linux?  Zen380 | 02/14/07
The password dialog is nothing more than a GUI...  ye | 02/14/07
sudo does not equal root  impala_sc | 02/14/07
Really...  IAHawkeye | 02/14/07
There is the rub!  miyojim | 02/14/07
most do not  impala_sc | 02/14/07
Sorry to disappoint you  Macheads | 02/15/07
UAC is a way for MS to say they tried  robert@... | 02/14/07
You know...  IAHawkeye | 02/14/07
MS = Mostly Secure?  nick.bunyan@... | 02/14/07
Hard Labor Jail for Malware Writers  ericseba | 02/14/07
You forgot...  Dr. John | 02/14/07
Daily  ericseba | 02/14/07
The Windows NT lineage is abnormal  miyojim | 02/14/07
It sounds  alaniane@... | 08/30/07
registry is a cancer  way_z | 02/14/07
Forget Trying To Secure Windows...  blackfalconsoftware@... | 02/14/07
Real Flaw or Bad Press?  Narg | 02/14/07
Glass Ceiling  Matt.Fahrner@... | 02/14/07
Listen to her MS can, but would it avail?  miyojim | 02/14/07
Even if UAC wasn't automatic...  rlawler | 02/14/07
Effective Administration by OS or Admin?  emmarx1@... | 02/14/07
the point is automatic escalation is bad  impala_sc | 02/14/07
LET'S TELL BILL!  BALTHOR | 02/14/07
Another problem caused by not having a package manager  Sxooter_z | 02/14/07
installing is an administrative task  smarria@... | 02/14/07
compliant install process needed  Mark Miller | 02/14/07
Correction  Mark Miller | 02/14/07
Mac OS : drag & drop install  impala_sc | 02/14/07
Package Installer is built in  smarria@... | 02/14/07
Good idea....  Macheads | 02/15/07
One can tell ...  ttocsmij | 02/14/07
Your email is so combative  smarria@... | 02/14/07
I disagree, Rutkowska is right.  impala_sc | 02/14/07
In other words ...  ttocsmij | 02/14/07
what is holeless anyway  blindguyinanorgy@... | 02/14/07
your a fool  doas777 | 02/14/07
Secure OS  Dr. John | 02/14/07
Excellent point!!  ericseba | 02/14/07
Cite source please...  jasonj@... | 02/14/07
Your email is so combative  smarria@... | 02/14/07
"reduced previleges installer"  alinconstantin | 02/14/07
rights control?  impala_sc | 02/14/07
why heuristics?  impala_sc | 02/14/07
Should We Boycott Windows Vista?  Evisscerator | 02/14/07
Remember BillyBully  Sowhatsupyouranus@... | 02/14/07
Facts versus Utopia  a_gautier | 02/14/07
I beleive that sould not be considered a security flaw  waldoalvarez00@... | 02/14/07
Security is human based  Codexena | 02/15/07
perspective  Codexena | 02/15/07
The Vista on sale isn't the Vista originally advertised.  Dr_Zinj | 02/15/07
Got a little problem with Mark, huh?  z3lk3 | 02/15/07
Security  citizen_200@... | 02/18/07
Security  citizen_200@... | 02/18/07
Security  citizen_200@... | 02/18/07
vista  lynster430@... | 02/20/07
Microsoft security and Russinovich  someonewhoknows | 02/23/07
She's right- this is a major hole  jbullis | 03/09/07
security isn't the issue  inertman@... | 03/09/07
re: security isn't the issue  Robert_JR | 03/23/07
RE: Hacker flags 'very severe hole' in Vista UAC design  tatianahunt | 03/24/08
And yet...  Spiritusindomit@... | 05/21/08
RE: Hacker flags 'very severe hole' in Vista UAC design  DonBurnett | 07/24/08

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