Your average beta tester is a power user
NetArch. | 10/08/09
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I agree
kyn_67@... | 10/08/09
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good one
xicanonaztlanca | 10/08/09
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ditto
mathcreative | 10/08/09
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Linux
keetrainchild | 10/08/09
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ZDNet = Professional Trolls
Duke E. Love | 10/08/09
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Then don't read their blogs or news feeds dummy. NT
tbensen@... | 10/09/09
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Its all going to come down to marketing.
storm14k | 10/08/09
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The average user
misceng | 10/08/09
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No, that's not true
wolf_z | 10/08/09
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I think you kiiiiinda prove the point...
storm14k | 10/08/09
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Huh???
kracor@... | 10/25/09
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History repeated
Misdirector | 11/03/09
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XP software issues. Same now in Win 7
mgeddes@... | 10/08/09
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Dude get some help with this
DonBurnett | 10/08/09
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"Dude" That was the other Dude Point...
rciafardone@... | 10/09/09
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@rciafardone, once of the best posts I've read here yet!
UAC nanny screen | 10/09/09
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rciafardone DOS was dead since XP
keoz | 10/09/09
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Yeo "Dude" you might want to think about this.
jjmcdonald7911@... | 10/10/09
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You may have missed the point...
DataFerret | 10/08/09
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aktazdevil | 10/08/09
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What about dual boot XP and Windows 7?
pfyearwood | 10/08/09
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Install in Compatibily Mode not XP-mode
ptelenko@... | 10/09/09
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MS-DOS/Netware
janeadct@... | 10/08/09
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What You Actually Find
Alfie AF | 10/09/09
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I think that kinda depends...
jeremychappell | 10/08/09
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re: Its all going to come down to marketing.
Mihi Nomen Est | 10/08/09
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"Average user ..."
brian ansorge | 10/08/09
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you may be partialy right...
windozefreak | 10/08/09
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You may be wrong
Hate Malware | 10/09/09
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Beta Testers only received copies, not those who just used the Beta
Patanjali | 10/12/09
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That statistic could be misleading ...
mwagner@... | 10/08/09
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I'm Probably Avg User
LegendsOfBatman | 10/08/09
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But it's more than this...
jeremychappell | 10/08/09
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Average user testing is not that important on beta
keoz | 10/09/09
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I was a tester
c_monks@... | 10/12/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
mikeaspatrick | 10/08/09
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Vista=ME2
Eric -W | 10/08/09
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Testers
jlawrenc1 | 10/09/09
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Windows7: XP on glam
sparkle farkle | 10/08/09
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Not being able to select...
bjbrock | 10/08/09
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I have to disagree.
JM1981 | 10/08/09
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"Just because it is a new UI doesn't make it better."
brian ansorge | 10/08/09
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It also doesn't make it worse
LiquidLearner | 10/08/09
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With regards to search.
Bozzer | 10/09/09
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Umm Yes.. Actually
condelirios | 10/09/09
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Who said Win7 did away with lists?
Patanjali | 10/12/09
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What have you been smoking?
wolf_z | 10/08/09
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LMAO
kyn_67@... | 10/08/09
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What?
mathcreative | 10/08/09
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I was agreeing
kyn_67@... | 10/09/09
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Control Panel Classic Mode still exists.
JM1981 | 10/08/09
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You have not been using 7 that much
keoz | 10/09/09
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Well said!
Agnostic_OS | 10/10/09
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It depends totally on the viewpoint of the user
TonyOz | 10/08/09
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Hmmm....
James T. Kirk | 10/08/09
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A fair comment........which you don't like, apparently.
TonyOz | 10/08/09
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Windows User != Windows Fan(atic) or Gates Prophet
trx_1 | 10/08/09
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Now that's pretty good pragmatism....nice.
TonyOz | 10/08/09
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Windows User!
fjm | 10/08/09
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Heh
jeremychappell | 10/08/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
RickyF | 10/08/09
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Why Balmer will never hear the Truth
fumerop@... | 10/25/09
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The problem comes down to two words
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes  | 10/08/09
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Good to know because...
chrome_slinky@... | 10/08/09
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Undocumented Feature
Bill4 | 10/08/09
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Undocumented Feature
Agnostic_OS | 10/11/09
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My thoughts exactly.
ye | 10/08/09
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A company that ignores feedback can't blame a lack of it...
LeoD | 10/08/09
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For Microsoft, Ignorance is Bliss
Win7Nightmares | 10/08/09
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Vista operating system
norman1302@... | 10/08/09
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Vista is a lot better than XP
stano360 | 10/08/09
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MEh
nucrash | 10/08/09
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Really?
Hate Malware | 10/09/09
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Yep...that's what we got too...
lawryll@... | 10/08/09
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Get over it already. Time to move on.
ye | 10/08/09
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Holding feet to the fire....
storm14k | 10/08/09
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Perhaps you missed the part where I wrote:
ye | 10/08/09
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One should always be able....
bjbrock | 10/08/09
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You got what you paid for.
ye | 10/08/09
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Vote with your feet and change supplier
deaf_e_kate | 10/08/09
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Don't forget the other two words
jreuter | 10/08/09
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Maybe, maybe not, Adrian ...
mwagner@... | 10/08/09
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RE: The problem comes down to two words
shinji257 | 10/08/09
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lowered and slowered
RDrr | 10/08/09
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By Design...
DevStar | 10/08/09
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Isn't this a bit disingenuous?
chrome_slinky@... | 10/08/09
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Harmless hobbiest here, but...
Bill4 | 10/08/09
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Hope so because
chrome_slinky@... | 10/08/09
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Beta code is always slower because ...
mwagner@... | 10/08/09
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Yes, I know, though not a programmer by profession
chrome_slinky@... | 10/09/09
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The 'dirty little secret' is that Windows 7 ...
mwagner@... | 10/08/09
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No, I think
chrome_slinky@... | 10/09/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
bratz_81 | 10/08/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
Bodazapha | 10/08/09
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Has this happened with Windows 7?
Gerardo.Tasistro | 10/08/09
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Sure. It's ALWAYS someone else's fault, Ballmer.
CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/08/09
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You should learn to read.
jdbukis@... | 10/08/09
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You should learn to read.
CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/08/09
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You should learn to read and quote
Hate Malware | 10/09/09
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I've Been Using Windows 7 Since January
itanalyst2@... | 10/08/09
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Re: I've Been Using Windows 7
bb_apptix | 10/08/09
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That's not Windows 7 Fault, but still MS fault
rarsa | 10/08/09
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IE 8 and IE 7 mode (ask the site makers to set the IE 7 METATAG
DonBurnett | 10/08/09
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I agree
ckl_88 | 10/08/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
g_keramidas@... | 10/08/09
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It is obvious by reading post on ZDNet...
bjbrock | 10/08/09
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I think Vista was doomed from the beginning
NoThomas | 10/08/09
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Kinda like the Star Trek movies. nt
pfyearwood | 10/08/09
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FALSE:Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells
Tom T Tuttle | 10/08/09
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feedback
Mary Jo Foley | 10/08/09
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I remember specifically hearing...
nucrash | 10/08/09
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We did report performance issues...
Timpraetor | 10/08/09
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And here is the proof
nucrash | 10/08/09
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As someone who tried the public betas, and reported
chrome_slinky@... | 10/08/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
Metawatch | 10/08/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
maxgomes | 10/08/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
dosnits | 10/08/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen
PhiloEconomics | 10/08/09
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OT: Financial meltdown
colinnwn | 10/08/09
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It's called hindsight
macgroover | 10/08/09
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True...
jk_10 | 10/08/09
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I'm sorry, but no.
Looks Confused | 10/08/09
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What, What, What ???
colinnwn | 10/08/09
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I figured it out!
colinnwn | 10/08/09
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As for me...
Looks Confused | 10/08/09
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Beta testers TOLD Microsoft that Vista is AWFUL
Mshahsavar | 10/08/09
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My wife is as far from a tech or power user as it gets
ilyab | 10/08/09
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Mine too
IT_User | 10/08/09
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Yeah printer broblem is an issue with manufacturer for the most part
ilyab | 10/08/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
johnemartin25@... | 10/08/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
codehopper | 10/08/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
steeleblue_cactus | 10/08/09
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Being the only Vista user where I work
nucrash | 10/08/09
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Elephant in the Room?
Cosmic1 | 10/08/09
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Microsoft admit Vista was wrong just to reverse and blame users
Randalllind | 10/08/09
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NO SECOND ROUND TESTING
ggossett001 | 10/08/09
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Group of 3 testers
Cosmic1 | 10/08/09
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RE: Power users and MICROSOFT MISTAKES
mikermiker | 10/08/09
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Here were a few WARNINGS!!!
nucrash | 10/08/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
HotPepperMan | 10/08/09
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Software testing is a profession.
CPPDEV | 10/08/09
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Microsoft caused Vista flap.
Hates Idiots | 10/08/09
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No, they rely on free beta testers instead of paying qualified people.
HypnoToad72 | 10/08/09
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MS has plenty of paid testers...
sframberger@... | 10/08/09
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I can see this happening.
Hates Idiots | 10/09/09
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Mixed bag
bmgoodman | 10/08/09
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Too few of us remember Windws 2000 and ...
mwagner@... | 10/08/09
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The biggest problem with Vista
danm50 | 10/08/09
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Passing the ball?
rarsa | 10/08/09
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If they only listened to IT managers and consultants
rcfoulk@... | 10/08/09
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If a bell is rang and there is nobody there to hear it...
mrlinux | 10/08/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
steeleblue_cactus | 10/08/09
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Not that hard
rcfoulk@... | 10/08/09
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not quite
steeleblue_cactus | 10/09/09
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What testers is he talking about?
jreuter | 10/08/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
Mirciox | 10/08/09
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Oh sure Steve
SystemVoid | 10/08/09
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Changes are more incremental this time
tony@... | 10/08/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring=BS
zato_3@... | 10/08/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
Try2Ketchup | 10/08/09
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All the PC Magazines said Vista was great; wonderful!
gparsons | 10/08/09
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Actually, the trade-rags were bad-mouthing ...
mwagner@... | 10/08/09
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Vista sufferred from unrealistic expectations...
jasonp@... | 10/08/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
isrcourt | 10/08/09
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Software products ship when management says so
HollywoodDog | 10/08/09
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Why....
Narg | 10/08/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
geary_t2000@... | 10/08/09
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Politically Massaged Selective Memory
zenwalker | 10/08/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
ramblnmn | 10/08/09
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10,000,000 people are wrong?
Heatlesssun | 10/08/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen
jester41@... | 10/08/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen
BraxtonLNG@... | 10/08/09
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Sure... blame the Testers!!!
ttwiw | 10/08/09
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Microsoft Internal Emails Show Dismay With Vista
Ole Man | 10/08/09
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Windows 7 and the acer one netbook
roger andre | 10/08/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
mikemc3@... | 10/08/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
DT Colorado | 10/08/09
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MJF -1
johnfenjackson@... | 10/08/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen
lutz.huesch@... | 10/08/09
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Vista launch vs. 7 launch.
quux | 10/08/09
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Spun bells don't ring.
Clockwork Computer | 10/08/09
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Third-party lag
npiaseck | 10/08/09
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The reason is money, money, money...
mikifinaz1@... | 10/08/09
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What testers? Microsoft fired all its testers in 2005.
stephen.charles | 10/08/09
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Testers didn't miss anything with Vista
Lerianis10 | 10/08/09
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AGREED
DonBurnett | 10/08/09
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Um you are blaming Vista on Apple users now?
James Quinn | 10/11/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen
BlogWatcher | 10/08/09
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If memory serves me...
sykandtyed | 10/08/09
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Ignorance ot the top - grotesque assumptions
Altotus | 10/09/09
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RE:
Bozzer | 10/09/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
thomasak001 | 10/09/09
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Ballmer is a freak in a business suit...
tek_heretik | 10/09/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
jt59 | 10/09/09
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Maybe Microsoft should take some responsibility and do their own testing?
HypnoToad72 | 10/09/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen
wing.flanagan@... | 10/09/09
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those BSOD are not caused by Win7 I'm afraid nt
keoz | 10/09/09
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Remember ReadyBoost? Of course they knew Vista had problems.
John238 | 10/09/09
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Computer Nerds are the same as Muscle Car Nerds
voltrarian | 10/09/09
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For the sake of user experience nt
keoz | 10/09/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen
johan.kloosterman@... | 10/09/09
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Ballmer Needs to Retire.
DT Colorado | 10/09/09
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Fire Ballmer.
reinux | 10/09/09
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Who would you trust to replace him?
peter_erskine@... | 10/10/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
dishnetman | 10/09/09
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your all cheap
dishnetman | 10/09/09
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a new O.S. = new hardware?
Agnostic_OS | 10/11/09
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Suggestion: Make a real troubleshooting FAQs website!!
voltrarian | 10/09/09
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The Annoyances site may be useful
peter_erskine@... | 10/10/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
lloyd_j@... | 10/10/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
shenoy.roopesh@... | 10/10/09
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Testers did ring Vista warning bells; but it could still happen to Win 7
Agnostic_OS | 10/11/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
jbullis | 10/11/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen
AnotherVoice | 10/11/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
MikeDiack | 10/12/09
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YES it IS happening again with WIN7....
carlsf@... | 10/12/09
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Yes is IS happening....
seamountie | 10/12/09
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Try THIS one for Size!
jkratzer3 | 10/13/09
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So he doesn't fix it; then what
amasys | 10/13/09
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They're dead if they dont get it right
AndyPagin | 10/13/09
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lol
rtk | 10/13/09
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Not this year
AndyPagin | 10/13/09
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Linux uptake isn't slow, it's glacial.
rtk | 10/13/09
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No
keoz | 10/14/09
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Linux comes with an office suite, out of the box
Ole Man | 10/16/09
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Not the office suite users most look for! (nt)
keoz | 10/16/09
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Well obviously!
Ole Man | 10/19/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
pchaffeur | 10/13/09
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Should've Asked Me...
craigd@... | 10/16/09
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Only 1 thing went wrong with Vista:
theoxygenthief | 10/20/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
digital riverrat | 10/23/09
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RE: Ballmer: Testers didn't ring Vista warning bells; Could the same happen with Windows 7?
Misdirector | 11/02/09
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Whoever approved releasing Vista should go in a different business
clixandru@... | 11/03/09
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Vista coudn't even copy files! You call it an operating system?
dellisbrown | 11/14/09
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