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Here's something for the developers to do:
Spend 100% of their time on the current windows, until it is bug-free, secure, and stable.

Also for the next Win, don't change the UI again. Please.
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Here's something for the developers to do:  gtvr | 09/23/09
pray do tell  Snarfiorix | 09/23/09
Interesting...  storm14k | 09/23/09
False Choice Fallacy...  BFD | 09/23/09
However...  zkiwi | 09/23/09
It's not fatalistic...  DevStar | 09/23/09
Nice try...  zkiwi | 09/23/09
@zkiwi...  PollyProteus | 09/23/09
re "it's not fantastic"  firemouth | 09/24/09
I think medicine IS more complex...  shadfurman | 09/24/09
re: firemouth  shadfurman | 09/24/09
@zkiwi... has a point  lachgil | 09/24/09
Software IS a special case zkiwi  SlithyTove | 09/28/09
Software like bridges is a fundamentally wrong argument  jorgeleo | 09/30/09
Hope for the best, prepare for the worste  T1Oracle | 09/23/09
Pithy statements  NonZealot | 09/23/09
Thats like saying we should end world hunger while typing on your computer.  shadfurman | 09/24/09
I fell for it!  mathcreative | 09/24/09
yes but!  shadfurman | 09/24/09
So your saying...  Snarfiorix | 09/23/09
Who claims they are not?  GuidingLight | 09/23/09
Actually, I would say no  NonZealot | 09/23/09
Silly debate  Andrej.G. | 09/24/09
Interesting again...  storm14k | 09/23/09
Again, it is naive  NonZealot | 09/23/09
Necessity is the mother of invention  T1Oracle | 09/23/09
Interesting  Snarfiorix | 09/23/09
Debugging first, bloating second  David Spencer-20660146163390554490918120654216 | 09/25/09
No code is, or ever will be, "bug free"  mwagner@... | 09/23/09
There once was a 100% virus/bug/malware free OS  dinosoft@... | 09/23/09
Nope, there never was  rtk | 09/23/09
Yes there was!!  T1Oracle | 09/23/09
There is software where bug free code is truly a goal  NonZealot | 09/23/09
One more consequence you left out...  Wolfie2K3 | 09/23/09
Speed and functionality  NonZealot | 09/23/09
@ Non-Z: I think you missed the point...  Wolfie2K3 | 09/23/09
Simple  NonZealot | 09/23/09
You missed one!  leopards | 09/23/09
However,...  windozefreak | 09/23/09
the good ol' days  unforgiventoo | 09/24/09
The Commodore64 had bugs y'know!  de-void | 09/24/09
That was a pen and paper.  baileysc | 10/01/09
God, human's and bugs.  rtk | 10/01/09
UI  chromeronin | 09/23/09
Vista was "hard to learn?"  Wolfie2K3 | 09/23/09
Not hard - impossible  IT_User | 09/25/09
Actually with Windows 9...  shane@... | 09/23/09
Agreed  TWBurger | 09/24/09
I don't have any problems with windows being insecure.  shadfurman | 09/24/09
TLZ  larry@... | 09/23/09
hot air for a doomed product  Linux Geek | 09/23/09
Why would it want a bloated kernel?  eqpc | 09/23/09
which also sucks the life from your battery?  eggmanbubbagee@... | 09/23/09
And isn't compatible with ...  de-void | 09/23/09
Thats what people have been asking all along...  storm14k | 09/23/09
So true!  Snarfiorix | 09/23/09
I agree...  storm14k | 09/23/09
Thats funny...  Snarfiorix | 09/23/09
Really? And you know this because ... ?  de-void | 09/23/09
So then...  storm14k | 09/23/09
How can you be right?  eqpc | 09/23/09
Exactly right...  Wolfie2K3 | 09/23/09
Actually, you'd be surprised ...  de-void | 09/24/09
What you define as bloat ...  de-void | 09/24/09
Actually Windows Kernel is pretty light...  thenetavenger | 09/24/09
Torvald's Statement Out of Context! grin  i2fun@... | 09/23/09
Speaking of "getting educated"...  Wolfie2K3 | 09/23/09
Windows Hybrid Monolithic vs Linux Hybrid Modular  i2fun@... | 09/24/09
Windows runs a kernel compiler for many Program and Driver installs...  PollyProteus | 09/24/09
Where Are You From? Not American! grin  i2fun@... | 09/25/09
You don't have a clue....  thenetavenger | 09/24/09
Well done, Sir!  Linkager | 09/24/09
Maybe you should have your own blog here...  eqpc | 09/25/09
Total, utter and complete garbage  de-void | 09/24/09
You're Very Funny, But Don't Quit Your Day Job! wink  i2fun@... | 09/25/09
@i2fun: You're sadly misinformed ...  de-void | 10/06/09
linux kernel w/ a devastating exploit  LBiege | 09/23/09
MS hasn't been sued....  storm14k | 09/23/09
MS Hasn't been sued ?  mluschas@... | 09/23/09
Or its possible...  storm14k | 09/23/09
hmmmm  stevehabs | 09/25/09
Almost all software is use at your own risk  thookerov | 09/23/09
Was the Massive hole ever actually exploited?  leopards | 09/23/09
Funny... The only hot air I see blowing...  Wolfie2K3 | 09/23/09
"if"?  NStalnecker | 09/23/09
Oh come now... He's been predicting their demise...  Wolfie2K3 | 09/23/09
You are a predictable troll  bobiroc | 09/23/09
Again Mary Jo? Seriously...  SystemVoid | 09/23/09
Let me guess though  rtk | 09/23/09
I don't know...  SystemVoid | 09/24/09
Karmic Koala and Lucid Lynx  rtk | 09/25/09
RE: Windows 8: More early clues start to emerge  KMFP | 09/23/09
I think...  Jeff_D_Programmer | 09/23/09
sad but true  boed | 09/23/09
Total, utter and complete nonsense  de-void | 09/23/09
Question  Viva la crank dodo | 09/23/09
Answer:  de-void | 09/24/09
MS MVPs  boed | 09/24/09
changes or bugs?  PollyProteus | 09/24/09
I have helped ...  de-void | 09/24/09
I guess I'm alone  boed | 09/24/09
You're wrong to assume Microsoft doesn't listen to its customers  de-void | 09/25/09
Their own employees don't know how to give feedback  boed | 09/25/09
Your experience is atypical  de-void | 10/06/09
I wish MS would ask consumers what they want  boed | 09/23/09
Actually you'd be surprised...  PollyProteus | 09/23/09
yup  thookerov | 09/23/09
reading into my comment and not reading my comment  boed | 09/23/09
My end users however have no desire to learn computer interfaces.  PollyProteus | 09/23/09
But why?  boed | 09/23/09
Actually it's not Microsoft's responsibility to...  PollyProteus | 09/23/09
LOL  boed | 09/23/09
@BOED - "Never ending list and 2 are not exactly on par."  PollyProteus | 09/23/09
There's one factor you need to consider...  Wolfie2K3 | 09/23/09
Code  boed | 09/23/09
Wish...  thenetavenger | 09/24/09
Consumers are about 80% of MS sales  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/26/09
I said that wrong, consumers are about 20%, business is 80%  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/26/09
Planning sessions are well under way?  ye | 09/23/09
Not really.  de-void | 09/23/09
There should be more than one team.  ye | 09/23/09
What makes you think there isn't?  de-void | 09/24/09
I get the impression that you have never worked in software development.  B.O.F.H. | 09/23/09
Already?? It's WAY too soon...  chas_2 | 09/23/09
And what would you have...  PollyProteus | 09/23/09
Add to that...  Wolfie2K3 | 09/23/09
Your message is all wrong!  Pyrotech_z | 09/23/09
Why?  de-void | 09/23/09
RE:Already?? It's WAY too soon  BernieLyons | 09/23/09
Which version will that be???  David Hamilton | 09/23/09
My bet is they'll call it "Five point one"...  David Hamilton | 09/23/09
The 6.1 version number for Win7 thing ...  de-void | 09/23/09
Microsoft have never got the hang of version numbering  David Hamilton | 09/23/09
If there is any company that doesn't get version numbering.  rtk | 09/23/09
Agreed, but...  David Hamilton | 09/23/09
Perhaps ...  de-void | 09/24/09
Blame Install Shield  mswift@... | 09/23/09
Nope! Blame the app vendor.  de-void | 09/24/09
Win NT numbers  Pyrotech_z | 09/23/09
So, in 2011, you're calling tech support...  David Hamilton | 09/23/09
Tech support will more likely say "press...  PollyProteus | 09/23/09
You say: "Windows 2000" not "Windows 5.0".  ye | 09/23/09
How difficult is it to wait...  David Hamilton | 09/23/09
Why do you care? Seriously.  ye | 09/23/09
Why have a name at all?  David Hamilton | 09/23/09
@David Hamilton: Again: Why do you care? Seriously.  ye | 09/23/09
And you don't care?  David Hamilton | 09/23/09
@David Hamilton: No, I don't care.  ye | 09/23/09
I care because it is stupid and unnecessary.  David Hamilton | 09/23/09
@David Hamilton: Have they?  ye | 09/23/09
Sigh! I will explain this very slowly  David Hamilton | 09/23/09
@David Hamilton: Let me help you with your "problem".  ye | 09/23/09
LOL @ Ye  bobiroc | 09/23/09
It's not a problem because the first thing ...  mwagner@... | 09/23/09
This has been posted before  JasonJD48 | 09/23/09
Win NT, by the numbers...  Wolfie2K3 | 09/23/09
That's because  JasonJD48 | 09/23/09
Why? Because Micrsoft screwed up the ...  mwagner@... | 09/23/09
It's clear to me that you are not the technical kind...  vmhatre | 09/23/09
RE: Which version will that be  BernieLyons | 09/23/09
RE: Windows 8: More early clues start to emerge  Danny Grizzle | 09/23/09
RE: Windows 8: More early clues start to emerge  RazorEdge | 09/23/09
What makes you think Windows 8 will be out in less than a few years?  Wolfie2K3 | 09/23/09
RE: Windows 8: More early clues start to emerge  MLeonhardt@... | 09/23/09
And how is this relevant...  PollyProteus | 09/23/09
Nobody cares  James T. Kirk | 09/24/09
RE: Windows 8: More early clues start to emerge  anonymuos | 09/23/09
what features would those be that got...  PollyProteus | 09/23/09
Indeed mindlessly removed  anonymuos | 09/23/09
Specifics please.  PollyProteus | 09/23/09
Can you be more specific?  NStalnecker | 09/23/09
Ok I'll bite  bobiroc | 09/23/09
RE:plans to put back some features  BernieLyons | 09/23/09
Instead of searching the start menu...  PollyProteus | 09/23/09
I agree  bobiroc | 09/23/09
My guess would be  rtk | 09/23/09
RE:plans to put back some features  BernieLyons | 09/23/09
Win9 is NEXT!  pupkin_z | 09/23/09
Yes after 7 comes 8 then comes 9..  bobiroc | 09/23/09
6 is scared of 7 'cause 7 8te 9  M Grobler | 09/23/09
I wish the journalist would think before writing  rupaa62 | 09/23/09
The title was pretty clear  rtk | 09/23/09
We should not listen to the morons  rupaa62 | 09/23/09
I think Mary-Jo has done a lot more thinking than you have ever done!  eqpc | 09/23/09
Likely trolling for this kind of response.  invmgr@... | 09/23/09
Didn't Bambi's mother get shot?...  eqpc | 09/23/09
I think enough you have no brains  rupaa62 | 09/23/09
What has your earnings got to do with it?  eqpc | 09/24/09
This noob doesn't troll very well  DonRupertBitByte | 09/24/09
Comments from minor leagers  rupaa62 | 10/02/09
RE: Thinking about the future of OS'  wolflight | 09/24/09
I wish the ZDNET talkbacker would think before...  DonRupertBitByte | 09/23/09
Your just another no clue computer user  rupaa62 | 09/23/09
HA!  krsanford | 09/24/09
Sorry about updating  rupaa62 | 10/02/09
Try to spell words correctly first.  DonRupertBitByte | 09/24/09
RE: I wish the journalist would think before writing  BernieLyons | 09/23/09
you got it correct  rupaa62 | 09/23/09
Have you not got any homework to do? {nt}  eqpc | 09/24/09
Well said!  wolflight | 09/24/09
WIN 7 and they are talking about win8  carlsf@... | 09/23/09
OK....  NStalnecker | 09/23/09
RE: start menu, too bad so sad,  BernieLyons | 09/23/09
It's still there...  NStalnecker | 09/23/09
RE: It's still there....  wolflight | 09/24/09
I think that you will find that  bobiroc | 09/24/09
As I typed above...  PollyProteus | 09/23/09
Maybe you should go through the tour  bobiroc | 09/23/09
Do you actually work in IT?  bobiroc | 09/23/09
OOo will use the ribbon.  Lester Young | 09/24/09
NT Ups Follow PIN Count Ups....  VONDRASHEK@... | 09/23/09
RE: Windows 8: More early clues start to emerge  boed | 09/23/09
RE: Windows 8: More early clues start to emerge  bearlyworking | 09/23/09
There's something I'd like: Accessibility  Grayson Peddie | 09/23/09
Agreed  David Hamilton | 09/23/09
Yes after 7 comes 8 and then comes 9  bobiroc | 09/23/09
Or in the case of MS Word...  David Hamilton | 09/23/09
yes: 2000!!!  David Hamilton | 09/23/09
97 was the year  bobiroc | 09/23/09
Why do you ask?  eqpc | 09/23/09
I meant that post higher up  bobiroc | 09/23/09
Need single user capability  john3347@... | 09/23/09
Your OS would be.....  Lester Young | 09/23/09
Okay, you got me confused on that one...  PollyProteus | 09/23/09
If I'm correct, he wants a single-user operating system.  Grayson Peddie | 09/23/09
Those aren't single user systems...  PollyProteus | 09/23/09
Ah...  Grayson Peddie | 09/23/09
OMG!!! 7 must be a failure!!!!  Lester Young | 09/23/09
Yup  NStalnecker | 09/23/09
I sure hope you are being sarcastic  bobiroc | 09/23/09
Yes  NStalnecker | 09/23/09
rest assured (nt)  Lester Young | 09/24/09
Too fast..  djdirty | 09/23/09
CIOs and Very Early Adoption of OSes  Grayson Peddie | 09/23/09
Bigger and Better in the Tech World  bobiroc | 09/23/09
Yer..  djdirty | 09/23/09
RE: Windows 8: More early clues start to emerge  Mike062 | 09/23/09
NOT so fast....  Mike from Philly | 09/23/09
You obviously have no grasp  bobiroc | 09/23/09
Why is this a surprise from some people?  NStalnecker | 09/23/09
Pick up the pace on that treadmill  Chad_z | 09/23/09
Boring boring boring  alpinesoft | 09/24/09
Agreed  AndyPagin | 09/24/09
Best Blog Ever  MikeDevenney | 09/24/09
This plan = more $$ for Microsoft  apexwebmaster | 09/24/09
Sorry, but you're wrong  rtk | 09/24/09
No One is making you buy it  bobiroc | 09/24/09
Your logic...  NStalnecker | 09/25/09
I think Windows 8 should wait to release until 2012 at least  ryanlee05 | 09/24/09
You do know that it takes approx 3 years to release an OS, right?  de-void | 09/24/09
Still Waiting for Vista Promise  dhamilt01@... | 09/24/09
there was never a "new" file system  archer75 | 09/24/09
Really? NTFS is still the leading FS technology out there...  thenetavenger | 09/24/09
IBM  dhamilt01@... | 09/28/09
Windows 8 is still "vaporware"; why are so many people discussing it?  adornoe@... | 09/24/09
Don't you understand what their job is?  de-void | 09/24/09
RE: Windows 8: More early clues start to emerge  ConstableOdo | 09/24/09
RE: Windows 8: More early clues start to emerge  gareth.rowlands@... | 09/24/09
Gossipy Mary Jo  markbn | 09/24/09
Again, Koala isn't out, and we're already reading about Lynx.  rtk | 09/24/09
Simply because I don't care about Lynx or Koala  markbn | 09/26/09
no problem  rtk | 09/26/09
Build a new NT, Call it NT2 or RealNT  M_Teixeira | 09/24/09
Lack of understanding about NT?  thenetavenger | 09/24/09
I meant MS should break barriers and build something NEW *again*  M_Teixeira | 09/25/09
PS  thenetavenger | 09/24/09
I stand corrected, but still...  M_Teixeira | 09/25/09
NTFS and the Registry  David Spencer-20660146163390554490918120654216 | 09/25/09
RE: Windows 8: More early clues start to emerge  ebrouet@... | 09/24/09
RE: Windows 8: More early clues start to emerge  jkohut | 09/24/09
Windows 7  bobiroc | 09/24/09
RE: Windows 8: More early clues start to emerge  z3r0_f4ct0r | 09/26/09
tag based gui  wovawi | 09/27/09

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