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"OK ? stop laughing now"?
MJ,

i have a problem with this sentence. i call myself an IT professional. I worked as a software developer since DOS 3.0. I have worked on whole range of operating system. i DO NOT think vista has anything to laugh about. this is a solid operating system, with a solid security system. and fluent interface. yes, some old apps stop working. but that's something we know before we use it.

people's opinion about vista is just as stupid as anything can be. I don't care that is how many millions' opinion.
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"OK ? stop laughing now"?  jk_10 | 03/24/09
Stop??? I just started  InAction Man | 03/24/09
Re: Stop??? I just started  rmarkle | 03/24/09
No, but you'd be a fool not to be testing so you don't fall to far behind.  invmgr@... | 03/25/09
Testing apps is far different from 'Don't wait for SP1 to Adopt'  rmarkle | 03/25/09
Test is OK.  agohige | 03/26/09
I agree.  agohige | 03/26/09
laughing  Mary Jo Foley ZDNet Moderator | 03/24/09
Vista's performance and compatability issues had little to do with...  ye | 03/24/09
So now you know more than MS?  storm14k | 03/24/09
Apparently you missed the following I wrote:  ye | 03/24/09
Funny how...  storm14k | 03/24/09
This is the best attempt at saving face you could muster?  ye | 03/24/09
There was no face to save.  storm14k | 03/24/09
@storm14k: I repeat: Apparently you missed the following I wrote:  ye | 03/24/09
More specifically  Tiggster | 03/24/09
Agree 100% (nt)  ye | 03/24/09
Disagree 100%  vulpine@... | 03/25/09
Fail  de-void | 03/25/09
Still disagree  vulpine@... | 03/25/09
Microsoft has done an excellent job with backwards compatibility.  ye | 03/25/09
@de-void: This has existed since at least Windows 2000.  ye | 03/25/09
How can you say that?  NIBONED | 03/25/09
Here's how.  vulpine@... | 03/25/09
bug as a feature...  brokndodge@... | 03/25/09
@Ye: I agree  de-void | 03/26/09
It's not so hard to blame Microsoft  Michael Kelly | 03/24/09
They've published standards since Windows 2000 was released.  ye | 03/24/09
Considering the size of Microsoft...  vulpine@... | 03/25/09
@vulpine: Microsoft has a program in place to certify drivers.  ye | 03/25/09
@ye...  vulpine@... | 03/25/09
@vulpine: Had and has.  ye | 03/25/09
@ye...  vulpine@... | 03/25/09
@vulpine: It existed for Windows 2000 and XP  ye | 03/25/09
Uninformed?  vulpine@... | 03/26/09
@vulpine: Yes, I am.  ye | 03/26/09
@ye: Let me see if I have this right  vulpine@... | 03/26/09
@vulpine: It depends.  ye | 03/26/09
@ye: So you admit...  vulpine@... | 03/26/09
@vulpine: I am saying no such thing.  ye | 03/27/09
Still doesn't explain why MS doesn't use  Deadly Ernest | 04/04/09
You can lead a horse to water ...  de-void | 03/25/09
But if their livelihood depends on that horse taking a drink  Michael Kelly | 03/25/09
@Michael Kelly  brokndodge@... | 03/25/09
@Michael Kelly - my point remains  de-void | 03/26/09
You said it!  jerry@... | 03/25/09
How do you know all that?  InAction Man | 03/24/09
Most of it is freely availble and well published  de-void | 03/25/09
Drinking the kool-aid huh!  InAction Man | 03/25/09
Erm ... no ... I'm stating fact.  de-void | 03/26/09
Not exactly 'transparent'...  vulpine@... | 03/25/09
Yep, and MS have since published all required docs  de-void | 03/26/09
Transparency...  vulpine@... | 03/26/09
Most of you people must be quite young.  JohnMcGrew@... | 03/25/09
That was in the early days of PnP  Deadly Ernest | 03/25/09
BUT, BUT  mswift@... | 03/25/09
No DOS compatibility in W7? Not a surprise.  JohnMcGrew@... | 03/25/09
freedos...  brokndodge@... | 03/25/09
DOS still needed and FreeDOS not a starter  Deadly Ernest | 04/04/09
All of which is due to MS  Deadly Ernest | 03/25/09
Utter nonsense  de-void | 03/25/09
So amply it often becomes useless very soon  Deadly Ernest | 04/04/09
Vista "not guilty"?  flboffin | 03/25/09
Thanks  jk_10 | 03/24/09
Maybe I can answer that.  914four | 03/24/09
good point  erik.t | 03/24/09
Crapware.  de-void | 03/25/09
I have a question; where did you download your clean copy of Vista?  914four | 03/25/09
#915Four: Depends  de-void | 03/26/09
The bulk of Vista licenses...  914four | 03/26/09
I've run Vista Ultimate on a P4 1.6 with 1GB of RAM.  ye | 03/24/09
Ahhh yes...  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 03/24/09
Burden of proof is not on my shoulders.  ye | 03/25/09
Hey..if you open italics  akulkis | 03/25/09
nt  InAction Man | 03/25/09
also classic ye  tmsbrdrs | 03/25/09
@tmsbrdrs: Well, if you guys would learn he who makes the claim...  ye | 03/25/09
Benchmarks for ye  914four | 03/25/09
Thanks for the information. Though I don't consider it benchmarks.  ye | 03/25/09
With a good ftp program...  914four | 03/25/09
@914four: My point was the data rate is low.  ye | 03/25/09
Reply to ye  914four | 03/25/09
@914four: You need to go back and re-read what I wrote.  ye | 03/25/09
As I mentionned earlier...  914four | 03/25/09
@914four: Since you mentioned you used the system for...  ye | 03/25/09
Ye  914four | 03/26/09
@914four: Are you listening to yourself?  ye | 03/26/09
I'm sorry Ye, but you are the one that does not understand benchmarks  914four | 03/26/09
@914four: I understand benchmarking just fine.  ye | 03/26/09
One last try...  914four | 03/27/09
At first I believed ye was just playing the fool, pretending he couldn't  InAction Man | 03/27/09
Maybe I can help point people in the right direction...  gavin142 | 03/25/09
My wife has had a similar complaint...  914four | 03/25/09
I didn't try it with Office 2007 but did with Office 2003  ye | 03/25/09
Works great here.  Eddy-ICUR12 | 03/26/09
I too consider myself an IT professional Mary Jo  914four | 03/24/09
I can.  ye | 03/24/09
In fact  akulkis | 03/25/09
Agreed  LegendsOfBatman | 03/25/09
laughing...  Narg | 03/25/09
Vista Ultimate...  agohige | 03/26/09
Laughing?  erik.t | 03/24/09
W7 SP1 - What happen to Vista SP2?  mietz | 03/25/09
Isnt Win 7 Vista SP2? (No Text)  LegendsOfBatman | 03/25/09
If so, it's well past due.  Deadly Ernest | 03/25/09
DE, I hate to point out a flaw here, but...  gavin142 | 03/25/09
MS sold Win 3.11 as an OS so I accepted their  Deadly Ernest | 04/04/09
what kind of professional you are?  laimexx | 03/25/09
Of Win7 SP1 is irrelevant  DotNetPgmr | 03/24/09
Lightly reworked? Nope  Heatlesssun1 | 03/24/09
Forgotten already?  kmashraf | 03/24/09
Close  akulkis | 03/25/09
Nope. Still wrong.  justwait | 03/25/09
Bzzzt! Wrong  akulkis | 03/25/09
Then what is OS X 10.5?  Tiggster | 03/24/09
I must have missed something....  storm14k | 03/24/09
key word is slip  ericesque | 03/24/09
Uh Oh!  InAction Man | 03/24/09
How so?  Tiggster | 03/24/09
How so, you ask? I'll tell how in 3 points.  InAction Man | 03/24/09
#4  MGP2 | 03/24/09
Yep....  storm14k | 03/24/09
Since you seem to be too slow I'll explain that to you  InAction Man | 03/25/09
What 4?  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 03/27/09
You must have gotten tired...  ericesque | 03/24/09
Now, if you're not too tired  InAction Man | 03/25/09
Windows 7  InAction Man | 03/24/09
Wow.  NStalnecker | 03/24/09
cut the cute "se7en" spelling crap.  akulkis | 03/25/09
InAction Man is right though.  agohige | 03/26/09
RE: Gartner: Businesses don't need to wait for Windows 7 SP1  Loverock Davidson | 03/24/09
They should not wait. Period.  InAction Man | 03/24/09
Let's all just move to Linux!  Tiggster | 03/24/09
But contrary to the point you tried to make...  storm14k | 03/24/09
Linux had legs before Vista  mdemuth | 03/24/09
Thats interesting...  storm14k | 03/24/09
Bloggers are taking notice  Tiggster | 03/24/09
Do you have a prediction when M$ will release the next Windows 7 "leak"?  InAction Man | 03/24/09
@Tigger  storm14k | 03/24/09
The MS Leaking strategy...  storm14k | 03/24/09
Adoption  pogson | 03/24/09
Slight correction  MGP2 | 03/24/09
And on the contrary  Tiggster | 03/24/09
Businesses migrating to GNU/Linux  pogson | 03/24/09
Thank you...  storm14k | 03/24/09
hardware stores too  brokndodge@... | 03/24/09
You forgot to mention  akulkis | 03/25/09
But contrary to the point you tried to make...  windozefreak | 03/24/09
If you want to stay with M$ at all cost, no need to wait!  InAction Man | 03/24/09
Effort  pogson | 03/24/09
Good point.  914four | 03/24/09
Easy XP to 7 clean-install, in-place migration  cxnyc | 03/25/09
You forgot...  914four | 03/24/09
taking the industry by storm?  erik.t | 03/24/09
real world calling  ismoore | 03/26/09
There needs to be fewer new applications compatible with XP...  rcar | 03/24/09
That will happen soon....  storm14k | 03/24/09
This is just the free market doing what it does  WiredGuy | 03/25/09
Seriously, how do they know?  TripleII | 03/24/09
Because of the money  Richard Flude | 03/24/09
They don't need to know....  Dave32265 | 03/26/09
Ignoring history is foollish.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/24/09
bugs yes, SP not necessarily  eggmanbubbagee@... | 03/24/09
True but, most companies don't allow it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/24/09
No, that doesn't make a lot of sense  Lerianis | 03/24/09
Nope!  de-void | 03/25/09
Should read.  kozmcrae | 03/24/09
No need to wait for Win7, just use Vista  qmlscycrajg | 03/24/09
Yes, But when is Vista SP2 coming out?  mietz | 03/25/09
Current ETA is April 09  de-void | 03/25/09
right!, don't wait for windoze 7, go Linux  Linux Geek | 03/24/09
No need to wait, just jump off a cliff today!  Tiggster | 03/24/09
Even better advice for....  storm14k | 03/24/09
Really?  de-void | 03/25/09
Really, Really?  glenn@... | 03/25/09
The time will come when M$ will drop support  InAction Man | 03/25/09
You can, I'll have fun with Linux  tmsbrdrs | 03/26/09
Win7 is just V*sta SP2. So no need to wait for SP1  InAction Man | 03/24/09
Spoken like a person without a clue.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 03/24/09
Now that you're here can you tell me who Don Rupert is?  InAction Man | 03/24/09
In other words No_Ax  MGP2 | 03/24/09
Not Quite!  de-void | 03/25/09
I'll consider moving to Linux....  MGP2 | 03/24/09
I'll consider Windows again  tmsbrdrs | 03/26/09
Who cares  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 03/27/09
Actually, Vista was solid enough for businesses to not wait  Lerianis | 03/24/09
Giving up applications  DNSB | 03/25/09
I Can Name Two Reasons To Wait  itanalyst2@... | 03/24/09
wicked kewl...  brokndodge@... | 03/24/09
Network map  de-void | 03/25/09
Not here  mswift@... | 03/25/09
ITAnalyst...  shane@... | 03/25/09
It Makes Sense  jpr75_z | 03/24/09
An SP1 for Windows SP7?  peterbk@... | 03/24/09
RE: Gartner: Businesses don't need to wait for Windows 7 SP1  adevine@... | 03/24/09
RE: Gartner: Businesses don't need to wait for Windows 7 SP1  netmgr@... | 03/24/09
And i thought Gartner was "independent"...  phamiltonsmith | 03/24/09
REmember, Gartner is an IT consultant  brewakeg | 03/25/09
re:REmember, Gartner is an IT consultant  n0neXn0ne | 03/25/09
You mean...  InAction Man | 03/25/09
RE: Gartner: Businesses don't need to wait for Windows 7 SP1  mailroom@... | 03/24/09
RE: Gartner: Businesses don't need to wait for Windows 7 SP1  mailroom@... | 03/24/09
Hold your breath ...  Dave32265 | 03/26/09
RE: Gartner: Businesses don't need to wait for Windows 7 SP1  robbackus | 03/24/09
RE: Gartner: Businesses don't need to wait for Windows 7 SP1  Baer | 03/24/09
Vista  Chet_0729 | 03/25/09
I remember  mietz | 03/25/09
Then you are MAD!  de-void | 03/25/09
Not mad, but wiser  mietz | 03/25/09
No - definitely mad  de-void | 03/26/09
RE VIsta  Breetai | 03/25/09
You have a short memory.  de-void | 03/25/09
Not a monopoly..  shane@... | 03/25/09
Still not convinced...  brokndodge@... | 03/24/09
so test it  mswift@... | 03/25/09
RE: Gartner: Businesses don't need to wait for Windows 7 SP1  Rama.NET | 03/24/09
RE: Gartner: Businesses don't need to wait for Windows 7 SP1  Deadly Ernest | 03/25/09
Where is the standard?  mswift@... | 03/25/09
Try the ISO and ITU web sites  Deadly Ernest | 04/04/09
RE: Gartner: Businesses don't need to wait for Windows 7 SP1  lindeblad_eric@... | 03/25/09
RE: Gartner: Let's play House-House. No wait, let's play Windows-Windows.  anonymuos | 03/25/09
RE: Gartner: Businesses don't need to wait for Windows 7 SP1  rmark@... | 03/25/09
RE: Gartner: Businesses don't need to wait for Windows 7 SP1  fwarren | 03/25/09
RE: Gartner: Businesses don't need to wait for Windows 7 SP1  fwarren | 03/25/09
Sorry DE, but I have to point out a flaw in your logic  gavin142 | 03/25/09
Not Exactly  CFWhitman | 03/25/09
Close, but allow me to clarify  914four | 03/25/09
Windows prior to Win 95 was an OS  Deadly Ernest | 04/04/09
Clueless..  Narg | 03/25/09
RE: Gartner: Businesses don't need to wait for Windows 7 SP1  laimexx | 03/25/09
RE: Gartner: Businesses don't need to wait for Windows 7 SP1  laimexx | 03/25/09
RE: Gartner: Businesses don't need to wait for Windows 7 SP1  david_zdnet | 03/25/09
The bigger Question?  xtrmgamr | 03/25/09
RE: Gartner credibility?  ismoore | 03/26/09
Why to trust Gartner?  mb_sx | 03/26/09
RE: Gartner: Businesses don't need to wait for Windows 7 SP1  thomasak001 | 03/26/09
Support????  Dave32265 | 03/26/09
RE: Gartner: Businesses don't need to wait for Windows 7 SP1  mlbslugger | 03/27/09
?? question ??  pgit | 03/31/09

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