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That?s the conclusion of a recent Microsoft-sponsored study from Vital Wave Consulting, which Microsoft is touting in new posting on the company?s Unlimited Potential (UP) blog.

Why am I not surprised of the results of this "study"? wink
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This line says it all ...  MisterMiester | 09/24/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 09/24/08
And if it was a Canonical sponsered study  GuidingLight | 09/24/08
Please show us a Canonical sponsored study ...  MisterMiester | 09/24/08
So, what you are saying is that  GuidingLight | 09/24/08
Yawn ...  MisterMiester | 09/24/08
You'll never get through to them.  ye | 09/24/08
Logic fallacy?  MisterMiester | 09/24/08
@MisterMiester: There' no logical fallacy.  ye | 09/24/08
@ye - Sorry there are logic fallacies here ...  MisterMiester | 09/24/08
@MisterMiester: Then by all means point them out.  ye | 09/24/08
@ye - Huge gap in your reasoning ...  MisterMiester | 09/24/08
Common sense is all you'll need.  storm14k | 09/24/08
@ye  AzuMao | 09/24/08
@storm14k: Common sense is not fact.  ye | 09/25/08
@AzuMao: Yes, the burden of proof lies on those who claim this study...  ye | 09/25/08
Oh for crying out loud...  awasson@... | 09/25/08
False assumptions  grail@... | 09/25/08
@awasson and @grail  xuniL_z | 09/26/08
Studies depend on assumptions  IT_User | 09/25/08
IT_User pegged it!  BobK Linux Noob | 09/25/08
Spot on  grail@... | 09/25/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 09/24/08
Commutative reversal  daboochmeister | 09/24/08
Reversed?  daengbo | 09/24/08
Wouldn't a reverse  LiquidLearner | 09/24/08
I'll bet you were  xuniL_z | 09/25/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 09/25/08
my bad, i meant kace.  xuniL_z | 09/25/08
Then why...  914four | 09/25/08
Oh, i don't know, why didn't they run the test with Ubuntu and  xuniL_z | 09/25/08
That is where you are yet once again WRONG!  Linux User 147560 | 09/25/08
@xunil_z - Linux has much lower requirements  MisterMiester | 09/25/08
No way, Mad Max. Never! wink you just admitted...  xuniL_z | 09/26/08
@xunil_z - ???  MisterMiester | 09/26/08
@MisterMeister ??  xuniL_z | 09/26/08
Still do....  awasson@... | 09/25/08
MS say they cost the same if you use cheap people  fr0thy2 | 09/25/08
Study sponsor  lordshipmayhem | 09/25/08
WOW Microsoft really will lie about anything  Breetai | 09/25/08
believing  TedKraan | 09/26/08
Vital Wave Consulting  Thempleton | 09/25/08
Bingo! - All that and a bag of chips.  MisterMiester | 09/25/08
Utzschneider Comments are FALSE  Uralbas | 09/24/08
Put the info up  daengbo | 09/25/08
Windows and Linux offering same TCO ?  timiteh | 09/24/08
There you have it folks  Ole Man | 09/24/08
Ole Man, you better go read your EULA.  xuniL_z | 09/25/08
What makes you think I use Firefox?  Ole Man | 09/25/08
You won't take it from Microsoft, Firefox or whoever.....nice quote...  xuniL_z | 09/26/08
You sound like His Lordship Bush  Ole Man | 09/27/08
oh my. you really don't see it, do you?  xuniL_z | 09/29/08
Of all the threads on this board, you come back to resume THIS one???  Zogg | 09/30/08
You replied to it, didn't you? Plus Ole Man  xuniL_z | 09/30/08
With friends like you, who needs enemies, Zuny?  Ole Man | 10/01/08
Now now, Ole Man.  xuniL_z | 10/02/08
Lots of assumptions in your post.  mwagner@... | 09/24/08
Message has been deleted.  n0neXn0ne | 09/24/08
Did you read his post?  TripleII | 09/24/08
The last bit you said  fr0thy2 | 09/25/08
and ...  deaf_e_kate | 09/25/08
your my hero  mblack45@... | 09/25/08
Usual contradictions.  xuniL_z | 09/25/08
"users will be able to replace their own motherboards"  Ole Man | 09/25/08
I would lay it all out for you Ole Man  xuniL_z | 09/26/08
Sounds like you have already laid it all out  Ole Man | 09/27/08
pile of blather.  xuniL_z | 09/30/08
Some points, but not enough.  TripleII | 09/25/08
Ok, there you have it. TripleII apparently supports.......  xuniL_z | 09/26/08
No, it thoroughly disgusts me.  TripleII | 09/26/08
Well, i think you misunderstood.  xuniL_z | 09/26/08
Ah yes, we have "recycling programs"...  Zogg | 09/27/08
To me it's just about enabling people.  TripleII | 09/27/08
"we have PC recycle programs and pickup or drop off of old computers."  Ole Man | 09/27/08
Westerners!  daengbo | 09/25/08
hmm. One tech per developing country eh. s/he must be good!  xuniL_z | 09/26/08
@xuniL_z  Axsimulate | 09/26/08
Who said anything about Vista?  mwagner@... | 09/25/08
Wrong on Every Point  trentreviso | 09/24/08
Minor Niggle  ksarkies@... | 09/25/08
Agreed. Complacency is Dangerous  trentreviso | 09/25/08
We are talking about XP, not Vista.  mwagner@... | 09/25/08
This is not a "study". It's a fantasy.  trentreviso | 09/25/08
Sorry Mike  TedKraan | 09/25/08
Univeral truth: Linux is like an Ugly Baby.  xuniL_z | 09/25/08
Misplaced post?  TedKraan | 09/26/08
Oh, sorry, i guess it was.  xuniL_z | 09/26/08
loved every  TedKraan | 09/30/08
You also assume a lot  Greenknight_z | 09/25/08
Woops!  cheesyone | 09/25/08
Did you NOT know?  Ole Man | 09/25/08
Some downright disinformation....  Loggies | 09/26/08
Totally WAY off.  xuniL_z | 09/25/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 09/25/08
5 year old hardware? Is that all?  xuniL_z | 09/25/08
Thanks for that long diatribe of nothing of value...  Linux User 147560 | 09/25/08
"I don't really care which OS is overall better"  Ole Man | 09/25/08
Here's a good quote for you!  TedKraan | 09/26/08
You want reality Teddy?  xuniL_z | 09/26/08
You might want to step out...  Linux User 147560 | 09/26/08
Even Yamaha gets it ...  MisterMiester | 09/26/08
Well guys.  xuniL_z | 09/26/08
Mkayyyy...  TedKraan | 09/27/08
stereotype much, Ted?  xuniL_z | 10/01/08
"Linux is harder to load, manage and operate"  Ole Man | 09/25/08
"Linux is harder to load, manage and operate"  Ole Man | 09/25/08
re: Linux is harder to load, manage and operate  Loggies | 09/26/08
Good points but..  TedKraan | 09/26/08
Learning Curve???  night-hunter | 09/27/08
A very honest post. Thanks Ted. Well said.  xuniL_z | 10/02/08
You sound like you have a degree, alright  Ole Man | 09/27/08
Why just spill venomous curt biased opinions every friggin time?  xuniL_z | 10/02/08
Cast not they pearls before the swine  Ole Man | 10/02/08
You know well enough.....  xuniL_z | 10/03/08
Your economics makes no sense.  TripleII | 09/25/08
Wow, i can't believe you've never had a showdown with a......  xuniL_z | 10/02/08
Why no 128MB?  TedKraan | 10/03/08
Ted, I think our memories always tend to add...  xuniL_z | 10/03/08
Lots of truth in that ofcourse...  TedKraan | 10/05/08
So, are you an advocate......  xuniL_z | 10/06/08
MS BS  LittleGuy | 09/24/08
What total, complete, infuriating nonsense:  OButterball | 09/24/08
Exactly right  Chad_z | 09/24/08
And what you can do with a 16-yr-old ...  mwagner@... | 09/24/08
RE: And ...  n0neXn0ne | 09/24/08
You keep using 1st world analogies.  TripleII | 09/24/08
Perhaps not.  mwagner@... | 09/25/08
That's a valid argument  TedKraan | 09/26/08
Depends on Location; Cost of Labor ...  MisterMiester | 09/27/08
You completely missed my point:  OButterball | 09/25/08
If you know how to do it, it is not hard.  mwagner@... | 09/25/08
Yeah, but NOT for Windows 2008 Server.  OButterball | 09/25/08
And then they ...  Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/24/08
Not by any stretch  Uralbas | 09/24/08
And herein lies it's problem  Richard Flude | 09/24/08
The real problem with Microsoft studies...  hamobu | 09/24/08
So, if not Microsoft, who would release a study favorable to Microsoft?  mikefarinha | 09/24/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 09/24/08
But it's not an advertisment.  mikefarinha | 09/24/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 09/24/08
....  mikefarinha | 09/24/08
same argument  TedKraan | 09/25/08
who would fight  TedKraan | 09/24/08
People that have a stake in promoting Linux.  mikefarinha | 09/24/08
Not what i'm getting at  TedKraan | 09/25/08
Silly Ted  mikefarinha | 09/25/08
But Mikey..  TedKraan | 09/26/08
Which is why...  John L. Ries | 09/24/08
I disagree with you.  mikefarinha | 09/24/08
Sugar coating a ****  Ole Man | 09/24/08
Captain curt-quip  xuniL_z | 10/02/08
Would have said the same about Red Hat or anyone else  John L. Ries | 09/24/08
This is fascinating good stuff, Mike.  TedKraan | 09/25/08
Yes, I hage a degree in business Ted.  mikefarinha | 09/25/08
tar.gz  TedKraan | 09/26/08
worth their salt = grain of salt  rcpr@... | 09/25/08
But  ksarkies@... | 09/25/08
Ethical business takes effort  John L. Ries | 09/25/08
You are right  Ole Man | 09/24/08
The question is...  storm14k | 09/24/08
Every study is colored by the world-view ...  mwagner@... | 09/25/08
Opinion and dishonesty are not the same.  trentreviso | 09/29/08
RE: Microsoft: Windows and Linux offer same TCO in emerging markets  b_radley | 09/24/08
In the past MS claimed a lower TCO.  bjbrock | 09/24/08
Steve Jobs  Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/24/08
Like asking the devil the way to heaven  Alan Smithie | 09/24/08
Vista well help the devil show the way to heaven  binstock@... | 09/25/08
lmao  DemonX | 09/24/08
BSOD in emerging markets  n0neXn0ne | 09/24/08
Linux vs Windows: The TCO wars continue ...  n0neXn0ne | 09/24/08
Microsoft and some analysts claimed Linux has a higher Total Cost of  Ole Man | 09/24/08
"Game" was the right term Ole Man. What a sham.  xuniL_z | 10/02/08
I thought so too, Zuny  Ole Man | 10/02/08
TCO not fixed, Linux more flexible  ricstorms@... | 09/24/08
Good point, Linux will only get cheaper. Windows cannot. nt  T1Oracle | 09/24/08
Love the first line  John L. Ries | 09/24/08
how so?  CobraA1 | 09/24/08
You're SUPPOSED to be too thick to realize that  fr0thy2 | 09/25/08
Good Point re: TCO value  Q'sDad | 09/25/08
It really depends  daengbo | 09/25/08
A "Microsoft-sponsered study"?  Ole Man | 09/24/08
In my experience, Linux costs far more than Windows  joemartn | 09/24/08
Why are you buying Linux CDs?  Henry Miller | 09/24/08
Saves some time and effort  John L. Ries | 09/24/08
Free CDs  Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/25/08
I walked from Phoenix to New York  fr0thy2 | 09/25/08
If you're BUYing Linux CDs, you're getting ripped off. (nt)  CobraA1 | 09/25/08
Buying Linux CDs & re-install??  bobpeg | 09/25/08
Me too, CD's cost almost 27c each now!  TripleII | 09/27/08
Yep a Ford Model T and a Prius have the same TCO  tonymcs@... | 09/24/08
And here was me thinking...  zkiwi | 09/24/08
Wrong zkiwi.  xuniL_z | 10/02/08
True  TedKraan | 09/25/08
Obviously false.  T1Oracle | 09/24/08
RE: Microsoft: Windows and Linux offer same TCO in emerging markets  mwagner@... | 09/24/08
RE: ... TCO ...  n0neXn0ne | 09/24/08
You are right there  TedKraan | 09/25/08
Give it up Wagner  fr0thy2 | 09/25/08
Give up what? I would love to see ...  mwagner@... | 09/25/08
Precisely!  Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/25/08
Sick and Tired of the FUD  trentreviso | 09/24/08
"Does Microsoft really think the world is full of nothing but idiots?"  fr0thy2 | 09/25/08
I prefer the term..  TedKraan | 09/25/08
RE: Microsoft: Windows and Linux offer same TCO in emerging markets  flipper_r@... | 09/24/08
So what about year 6, 7, 8...  iTeaBoy | 09/25/08
94 posts so far ...  jamesu | 09/25/08
Is it necessary?  n0neXn0ne | 09/25/08
Press release as news?  scott1329 | 09/25/08
RE: Microsoft: Windows and Linux offer same TCO in emerging markets  jns@... | 09/25/08
and it will improve the lives of those around you  fr0thy2 | 09/25/08
It's disturbing...  jns@... | 09/25/08
RE: Microsoft: Windows and Linux offer same TCO in emerging markets  Rambo Tribble | 09/25/08
RE: Microsoft: Windows and Linux offer same TCO in emerging markets  jeremy@... | 09/25/08
Window is old technology.  joe.smetona@... | 09/25/08
I bet you're talking about Windows 3.1. Now that's comparable to Linux...  transposeIT | 09/26/08
LInux Security.  joe.smetona@... | 09/26/08
Please do your homework!  matthewboh | 09/25/08
Which is more predictable?  RocketEater | 09/25/08
They didn't include Time Spent on the Phone!  madrucke@... | 09/25/08
Must Drive you ABMers crazy....  JoeMama_z | 09/25/08
Nah  John L. Ries | 09/25/08
Been there a hundred times, leads to a universal truth...  TripleII | 09/25/08
Thank you for the smile.  TripleII | 09/25/08
and Microsoft..  TedKraan | 09/26/08
RE: Microsoft: Windows and Linux offer same TCO in emerging markets  insanish1 | 09/25/08
RE: Microsoft: Windows and Linux offer same TCO in emerging markets  balentien_5@... | 09/25/08
RE: Microsoft: Windows and Linux offer same TCO in emerging markets  rreinhold058@... | 09/25/08
Computers for emerging markets ....  MisterMiester | 09/25/08
RE: Microsoft: Windows and Linux offer same TCO in emerging markets  Thempleton | 09/25/08
RE: Microsoft: Windows and Linux offer same TCO in emerging markets  1djk1 | 09/25/08
Review your TCO numbers  avillegasdb | 09/25/08
What about FV of capital ...  MisterMiester | 09/25/08
RE: Microsoft: Windows and Linux offer same TCO in emerging markets  jlmuzzio | 09/25/08
Be all that you can be...Use Linux...  mikifinaz1@... | 09/25/08
A MicroShaft Report Discussed by a MicroShaft Apologist - Typical  drprod@... | 09/25/08
Doesn't it depend on the Type of Linux? (Lotus Foundations?)  gavin.bollard@... | 09/25/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 09/25/08
Run a minimum GUI or use web based tools ...  MisterMiester | 09/25/08
HA, HA, HA, a Microsoft-sponsored study  Sumsare | 09/25/08
Study is discredited - Here is the proof  MisterMiester | 09/25/08
Damn if you did, damn if you don't...  transposeIT | 09/26/08
Not so, point us to them.  TripleII | 09/26/08
Interesting. Accuse and refuse. nice.  xuniL_z | 09/26/08
Windows is just a dream ...  MisterMiester | 09/26/08
...dream or icecream  n0neXn0ne | 09/27/08
Find is tooo slow ...  MisterMiester | 09/27/08
tRu dAt, tho ...  n0neXn0ne | 09/27/08
I thought my reply was asking for evidence.  TripleII | 09/27/08
Even without these studies ...  MisterMiester | 09/27/08
RE: Usual contradictions.  Axsimulate | 09/26/08
Axsimulate.  xuniL_z | 10/02/08
RE: Microsoft: Windows and Linux offer same TCO in emerging markets  toddh@... | 09/26/08
RE: Microsoft: Windows and Linux offer same TCO in emerging markets  Jim Blaine - Bellingham WA. | 09/26/08
Yes - but where does the money go?  cquirke1 | 09/27/08
Haven't even thought about that yet  TedKraan | 09/27/08
Excellent point  trentreviso | 09/29/08
RE: Microsoft: Windows and Linux offer same TCO in emerging markets  JustTheFacts | 09/27/08
RE: Microsoft: Windows and Linux offer same TCO in emerging markets  JustTheFacts | 09/27/08
playing with the numbers  itchy8me | 09/28/08
Some SLA's are met the same way  TedKraan | 09/28/08
Lies, lies, lies, and more lies.  trentreviso | 09/28/08
objectivity  TedKraan | 09/28/08
Microsoft "Partners in Learning" program.  Zogg | 09/30/08
100 reasons Linux beats Windows  n0neXn0ne | 09/29/08
omitted costs: Education Applications  WozaRichEd | 10/01/08
Same as leaving the logic out  Ole Man | 10/02/08
End user support for Windows is higher than Linux  The Rationalist | 10/09/08

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