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Tempting thought.....
.... to design windows without a thought towards backwards compatibility. I'm sure the end product would be a huge improvement.

The real question is, would the superiority gained outweigh the deficit of "all new apps." Would business, which just wants the thing to work, go for it?

I don't know. It would have to be one HUGE improvement - like running twice as fast on half the resources.
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Tempting thought.....  Takalok | 09/15/08
All new apps ...  mwagner@... | 09/16/08
is MacOSX 10.4 that much better than MacOSX 10.0?  914four | 09/16/08
Apple users...  Information_z | 09/16/08
so true, so true  unclefixer@... | 09/16/08
Can you...  Information_z | 09/16/08
Please understand...  Information_z | 09/17/08
Truly words of wisdom...  Kostagh | 09/17/08
But...  Information_z | 09/17/08
On a personal note...  Information_z | 09/17/08
Productivity and peace of mind...  olePigeon | 09/17/08
I think that was a unique situation you encountered...  olePigeon | 09/17/08
I think...  Information_z | 09/18/08
"Try paying for..."  bmerc | 09/18/08
Why pay when you don't have too?  Information_z | 09/18/08
A couple of points, though...  olePigeon | 09/17/08
Please explain to me why...  Information_z | 09/18/08
Depends on Whether MSFT Includes an "Old Windows" Emulator or Not  drprod@... | 09/16/08
On *Old Windows* Emulation  pghammer21@... | 09/16/08
Code re-writing...  Information_z | 09/16/08
Exactly, what did they do since XP was released?  iRMX | 09/17/08
Business is driven...  Information_z | 09/18/08
RE: What would Windows be without Win32?  Leerdam | 09/15/08
Oh Yes they can, if...  madrucke@... | 09/15/08
Sometimes you need to start afresh  SamCPP | 09/15/08
Starting afresh with .NET?  iRMX | 09/15/08
.NET wouldn't have to be hosted on Win32  Tiggster | 09/16/08
.NET for Linux?  914four | 09/16/08
'NET for *NIX? BTDT  pghammer21@... | 09/16/08
Never said .NET was the answer  SamCPP | 09/22/08
And who created TurboPascal, Delphi & C#?  de-void | 09/23/08
Getting ahead of yourself.  xuniL_z | 09/16/08
All XPSP2 applications and drivers written to spec run flawlessly on Vista  914four | 09/16/08
Well with OSX  SamCPP | 09/22/08
unlikely  RobinInTheHood | 09/16/08
RE: OH Yes they can, if  TheTru7h | 09/16/08
So much for backwards compatibility!  deowll | 09/16/08
What would Windows be without Win32?  Michael Kelly | 09/15/08
You said ...  mwagner@... | 09/16/08
There are alternatives  914four | 09/16/08
There's a big difference in Apple and Microsoft  alaniane@... | 09/16/08
Stupidest idea ever  croberts | 09/15/08
WEll..  ZachE84 | 09/15/08
Sorry buddy but thats not true...  storm14k | 09/16/08
No he is correct  crypt2121 | 09/16/08
You're just as wrong...  storm14k | 09/16/08
Are you looking at the right graphs?  xuniL_z | 09/16/08
Parked Domains - Apache  NotParker | 09/16/08
Wishful thinking  TtfnJohn | 09/16/08
@ttfnjohn. Where did that come from?  xuniL_z | 09/16/08
And  magallanes | 09/16/08
Ummm...  mg215199 | 09/16/08
Umm... No.  mg215199 | 09/16/08
ASP and ASP.Net...  storm14k | 09/16/08
ASP not totally incompatible at all.  xuniL_z | 09/16/08
actually it is true  zupobaloop | 09/16/08
that's hilarious  johnnydoe1894 | 09/16/08
Well, you topped him.  xuniL_z | 09/16/08
Java OS and Managed code  iRMX | 09/16/08
.NET wasn't a copy of Java  Tiggster | 09/16/08
@iRMX  xuniL_z | 09/16/08
.NET Performance is not crap  Tiggster | 09/16/08
Microsoft doesn't need to worry too much ...  mwagner@... | 09/16/08
Agree with you, but a dangerous game MS is playing  croberts | 09/16/08
Some very nice UMPCs run XP tablet and Vista.  xuniL_z | 09/17/08
****** THIS JUST IN...******  jtb74129 | 09/16/08
replace the OS with DOS 5.0.  deowll | 09/16/08
Managed code is a LOT easier to develop  LBiege | 09/15/08
Yup...  ZachE84 | 09/15/08
It's one thing to prefer managed code  Michael Kelly | 09/15/08
Sure there's always a trade-off  LBiege | 09/15/08
Managed code and device drivers  iRMX | 09/15/08
Is that a bad thing?  AzuMao | 09/15/08
Is it a bad thing?  iRMX | 09/15/08
Java, not C#  LBiege | 09/15/08
Java, and not C#  iRMX | 09/15/08
Colleges still teach data structure/algorithms tho  LBiege | 09/15/08
Re: Java, not C#  notsofast | 09/15/08
The problem I see with tying a virtual runtime  alaniane@... | 09/17/08
For what?  LBiege | 09/15/08
Been a while  mjolnar@... | 09/15/08
And so that...  ghost_ghost | 09/16/08
Win 3.1 Nostalgia?  iRMX | 09/16/08
That would be fun !  ghost_ghost | 09/16/08
If we relied on what we find here.....  xuniL_z | 09/16/08
.NET wasn't meant for device driver dev  Tiggster | 09/16/08
Performance is what  AzuMao | 09/16/08
.Net is not a scripting language.  alaniane@... | 09/17/08
Wow, just wow.  AzuMao | 09/15/08
Nowadays?  masonwheeler | 09/15/08
C++  AzuMao | 09/16/08
Sad yes, but true - my favorite language is C  USTechHead | 09/15/08
Re  ghost_ghost | 09/16/08
C++ is considered inefficient  Tiggster | 09/16/08
Agreed  AzuMao | 09/16/08
Re  ghost_ghost | 09/18/08
Why stop at Assembly  alaniane@... | 09/26/08
Not quite correct  balsover | 09/15/08
re: Not quite correct  thomastmc | 09/15/08
.NET has been around for 8 years  balsover | 09/16/08
Re  ghost_ghost | 09/16/08
No, I am not exaggerating.  balsover | 09/16/08
Re  ghost_ghost | 09/18/08
Amen  storm14k | 09/16/08
Re  ghost_ghost | 09/16/08
Re  ghost_ghost | 09/16/08
Slow down, Johnny  LBiege | 09/16/08
I don't take this personally at all.  balsover | 09/16/08
C++ cannot be developed as quickly as .NET  Tiggster | 09/16/08
One myth I see a lot  alaniane@... | 09/26/08
Perhaps, but the APIs need work.  CobraA1 | 09/15/08
Since backward compatibility is an issue,  HypnoToad | 09/15/08
RE: What would Windows be without Win32?  goingbust | 09/15/08
RE: What would Windows be without Win32?  progon | 09/15/08
Ever tried writing a device driver in .NET?  iRMX | 09/15/08
RE: What would Windows be without Win32?  AzuMao | 09/15/08
I beg to differ  proudgeek | 09/15/08
Re  ghost_ghost | 09/16/08
Re  ghost_ghost | 09/16/08
I question what YOU are doing...  storm14k | 09/16/08
OK.  ghost_ghost | 09/16/08
I'd say that also applies...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 09/16/08
Re  ghost_ghost | 09/16/08
Surely you jest!  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 09/16/08
Me too  ghost_ghost | 09/16/08
Sounds different from here  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 09/17/08
Systems programming would halt, as would Windows itself  tmccorm | 09/15/08
Why not run every program through a browser?  iRMX | 09/15/08
Because...  royalstream | 09/15/08
Your link betrays you  CobraA1 | 09/15/08
C# is doing well, thank you very much  Gruffydd | 09/15/08
Re  ghost_ghost | 09/16/08
Who uses C anymore?  strange_attractor | 09/16/08
No...  ghost_ghost | 09/16/08
Run[ing] every program through a browser...  stephenlposey@... | 09/15/08
Well I certainly hope not.  royalstream | 09/15/08
I certainly hope not as well  CobraA1 | 09/15/08
You hit the reason why 'cloud computing' won't catch on  Lerianis | 09/15/08
I despair for the future  LadyGray | 09/16/08
You are looking at this too narrowly  Tiggster | 09/16/08
RE: What would Windows be without Win32?  modification1 | 09/15/08
Even the Java OS has C and Assembler  iRMX | 09/15/08
RE: What would Windows be without Win32?  ethyrdude | 09/15/08
It is more a question of how it would be  iRMX | 09/15/08
summits  Hercul_s | 09/15/08
It would be a corporate thin client OS, that's what!  JasonVene | 09/15/08
Corporate Clients  iRMX | 09/15/08
Innovative, smaller and efficient  jscarey | 09/15/08
Puppy Linux  iRMX | 09/15/08
That's a GREAT analogy  proudgeek | 09/15/08
I dunno  CobraA1 | 09/15/08
dotnet = less bloat?  seanferd | 09/15/08
This is a stupid article...  Spiritusindomit@... | 09/15/08
I dunno...  Spiritusindomit@... | 09/15/08
Answer: A virtualization host happy  cquirke1 | 09/15/08
I have already gone 64 bit only  balsover | 09/16/08
Dead in the water  mthornton | 09/16/08
Are Microsoft brave enough to risk a move to Linux?  Gordon_Fern | 09/16/08
Re  ghost_ghost | 09/16/08
Sure! Why not?  Grayson Peddie | 09/16/08
More lines?  iRMX | 09/16/08
Win32 vs. .net  Grayson Peddie | 09/16/08
RE: What would Windows be without Win32?  TEHD | 09/16/08
Doesn't .Net talk to Win32?  davidr69 | 09/16/08
RE: What would Windows be without Win32?  tcole@... | 09/16/08
Windows? Yeah, I used to use that.  schmandel@... | 09/16/08
and no doubt...  LeeC | 09/16/08
Linux by amateurs?  iRMX | 09/16/08
MS changes course on ISV direction!  scott1329 | 09/16/08
Exactly! It's the ISV's that are going to switch.  User07734 | 09/30/08
RE: Leaner Windows != .Net  FL Guy | 09/16/08
What would Windows be without Win32?  tymiles | 09/16/08
Techno-babble without a purpose...  3dtodd | 09/16/08
RE: What would Windows be without Win32?  johnnydoe1894 | 09/16/08
Even turkeys can fly  iRMX | 09/16/08
What if all the telephone networks ran on Windows  iRMX | 09/16/08
RE: What would Windows be without Win32?  tstephensoncom | 09/16/08
RE: What would Windows be without Win32?  hoppity | 09/16/08
RE: What would Windows be without Win32?  hoppity | 09/16/08
RE: What would Windows be without Win32?  JDLjr | 09/16/08
RE: What would Windows be without Win32?  mwagner@... | 09/16/08
I'm feeling faint! happy  TtfnJohn | 09/16/08
Except for OS X .  xuniL_z | 09/17/08
I think the main article meant no Win32/Win64  iRMX | 09/16/08
I am sure you are correct. My point ...  mwagner@... | 09/16/08
happy 3 GB is the limit  iRMX | 09/16/08
Actually, it's only the limit on the 32 bit  alaniane@... | 09/26/08
RE: What would Windows be without Win32?  iRMX | 09/16/08
Where's the bloat goat?  w_c_mead | 09/16/08
RE: What would Windows be without Win32?  buettner@... | 09/16/08
RE: What would Windows be without Win32?  chromeronin | 09/16/08
Listen Up Mary Jo!  ShermB | 09/16/08
java killer strategy?  MayAbandonWindows | 09/16/08
Go with interpreted code? Ouch!  davetracer@... | 09/16/08
Agree, mostly  w_c_mead | 09/17/08
RE: What would Windows be without Win32?  atari8bit@... | 09/16/08
Damn, that makes sense!  davetracer@... | 09/17/08
I see things differently...  Information_z | 09/18/08
Can Microsoft Pulll This Off?  daves1646 | 09/16/08
Blah, blah, blah...  Information_z | 09/17/08
make Windows less bloated and more manageable  DavidR_HHDI | 09/16/08
RE: What would Windows be without Win32?  ceh4702 | 09/17/08
RE: What would Windows be without Win32?  iRMX | 09/17/08
RE: What would Windows be without Win32?  Don't Ask Me | 09/17/08
Only reason I would see to do that...  John L. Ries | 09/17/08
Here here...  Information_z | 09/17/08
MS Must remove WIN32  dswanson2609 | 09/17/08
I wonder if anyone shares your opinion...  Information_z | 09/18/08
No Win32 = Vista all over again  SteveMak | 09/18/08
Hey...  Information_z | 09/18/08
Calling bulls ...  de-void | 09/23/08
Assertions versus experiences  SteveMak | 09/24/08
My assertions were born from my experiences  de-void | 09/29/08
Perception...  Information_z | 10/01/08
Microsoft...  Information_z | 10/01/08
Whatever it is...  XweAponX | 09/19/08
OT: The myth of slow managed code  Developer.NET | 09/25/08
Bad designs  User07734 | 09/30/08
Microsoft Development Tools  jfreedle2@... | 10/03/08
I use Delphi  pwoon@... | 10/05/08

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