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How great would it be-
to have a lean, mean system that would do the basics, and leave some of the add-ons to other companies.

Microsoft has blown any chance of Vista ever getting any respect, as the timing of '7' seems almost a stopgap measure.

with '7' only being a fixpack to Vista (per Microsoft's explanations) the public will want something substantially different - and hopefuly better. Business will probably accept '7' as long as it doesn't have broken drivers.

So it would be back to the corporate OS, individual user OS, much like Windows 98 - Windows 2000 - not such a bad place to be, as it would be fewer revisions to support than the many flavors of Vista now.
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How great would it be-  chrome_slinky@... | 06/30/08
How long...  ThereThere | 06/30/08
To do it "right"  Yensi717 | 06/30/08
We're talking about Microsoft here remember  fr0thy2 | 06/30/08
ZZZZZZZzzzzz....nt  socialism=nowhere | 07/01/08
Yup, that describes their rate of development nicely wink  fr0thy2 | 07/01/08
I don't notice any announcement of anything being released here  de-void | 07/01/08
Lame story, really.  pauldizadji@... | 07/06/08
heh...  evilkillerwhale@... | 07/01/08
And what makes you think Midori hasnt' been in the works for years already?  de-void | 07/01/08
kernel isn't the problem  CobraA1 | 07/02/08
DRM is the problem  ajv123 | 07/04/08
Registry!  mojorison67@... | 05/04/09
as the timing of '7' seems almost a stopgap measure.  deowll | 06/30/08
Ain't NEVER gonna happen...  Wolfie2K3 | 07/01/08
How great it could be  Mikael_z | 07/15/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  DarbyOhara | 06/30/08
like he said  glaker@... | 06/30/08
your feelings  jakopriit@... | 07/01/08
It's obvious  ajv123 | 07/04/08
Registry! Doomed right there!  arminw | 07/01/08
Registry! Doomed right there!  arminw | 07/01/08
ArminW  gtg781w | 07/01/08
What Registry?  de-void | 07/01/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  MSWarrior | 06/30/08
20 problem pc's  Monkey_MCSE | 06/30/08
Usage check supplied.  Mabrick | 06/30/08
20 out of 1400 . . .  JLHenry | 06/30/08
unbiased?  Techmcneil@... | 07/01/08
Reminds me of the clock bug...  GreyGeek77 | 07/07/08
Not just govt agency going down terminal route  tony@... | 07/08/08
Gosh...  Jeremy W | 06/30/08
You'll have to find a new name for them.  fr0thy2 | 06/30/08
Perhaps we've discovered Vista's true purpose...  ejhonda | 06/30/08
Xactly (no text)  tek_heretik | 06/30/08
oh, and it's incidentally good for shareholder value  fr0thy2 | 06/30/08
Maybe not by 7, but by Windows 27....  jdickey | 07/01/08
LOL - your so funny OMG just laugh riot. LOL ...twit - nt  socialism=nowhere | 07/01/08
1+1=2. There you go, rotfl again happy  fr0thy2 | 07/01/08
Masters of Bloat  bbneo | 09/16/08
Be OS?  Fred Fredrickson | 06/30/08
Not really...  frankwick | 06/30/08
You only made one mistake...  vulpine@... | 06/30/08
clarification...  frankwick | 06/30/08
apart from the anti spyware and anti virus boxes  stevey_d | 06/30/08
Did Microsoft kill BEOS? Wasn't it Apple?  Roque Mocan | 06/30/08
BeOS  atari8bit@... | 06/30/08
beos nearly signed OEM deals with Dell etc but MS torpedoed  stevey_d | 07/01/08
Yep, you're pretty close.  de-void | 07/01/08
you must not be a mac fan  zupobaloop | 09/16/08
Clarification accepted...  vulpine@... | 06/30/08
not really ....  DesD | 06/30/08
Well Done!  adrich | 06/30/08
talk about bloat  developmentalmadness | 07/01/08
I'd suggest reading what I said again, DesD...  vulpine@... | 07/02/08
"all current OSes have the same basic concepts"  Ole Man | 06/30/08
all land vehicles have round wheels.  deowll | 06/30/08
Shhhh - let him think he knows all...shhhh nt  socialism=nowhere | 07/01/08
What do tracks and treads run on?  Ole Man | 07/02/08
really?  evilkillerwhale@... | 07/01/08
Really.  vulpine@... | 07/02/08
all land vehicles have round wheels  Brizee | 07/15/09
oiy... are you kidding?  evilkillerwhale@... | 07/01/08
EKW, maybe you should read that thread again.  vulpine@... | 07/02/08
Hello, Vista  qmlscycrajg | 06/30/08
Vista, Win7, Win8, etc.  Mary Jo Foley ZDNet Moderator | 06/30/08
Lots of Investigations  DaveLG526 | 06/30/08
64-Bit Versions of Vista Aren't Backwards Compatible  Herb3 | 06/30/08
Why the need for support of outdated applications?  Narg | 06/30/08
"Outdated" and "Legacy" Are Marketing Terms  dumptux | 06/30/08
He might if you could offer him something or equal or greater value.  deowll | 06/30/08
Niche applications  dkawalec | 06/30/08
Skeptical towards the compatibility of courseware programs using Windows 7  tcuser | 06/30/08
Incompatability  Keywalker4God | 06/30/08
Well, yes and no ...  mwagner@... | 06/30/08
Just because they have Vista doesn't make them "happy"  terry flores | 06/30/08
How is that MS's fault?  notsofast | 06/30/08
Parallel code streams  frankwick | 06/30/08
Microsoft shouldn't move away from Windows ever, ever, ever  fr0thy2 | 06/30/08
Man that is a HUGE observation...just like  socialism=nowhere | 07/01/08
I will when I fins something better nt  tech_walker | 07/01/08
But you're too busy installing anti-ware to see and learn right?  fr0thy2 | 07/01/08
Vista, Win7, Win8, whatever...  bbneo | 09/16/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  Steve Stone | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  mwagner@... | 06/30/08
Would it really close security problems?...  Narg | 06/30/08
Ditto, you beat me to it...  JCitizen | 06/30/08
A microkernel approach ...  mwagner@... | 06/30/08
Before Windows NT 4.0  Herb3 | 06/30/08
The price of 'backward compatibility' ...  mwagner@... | 06/30/08
They should have stayed with XP x64...  JCitizen | 07/01/08
Oh, really?  Raymond Danner | 06/30/08
Ya, really.  MarkKB | 06/30/08
Probably...  JCitizen | 06/30/08
AV companies utilize the ...  mwagner@... | 06/30/08
If you mean, by letting them into the kernel..  JCitizen | 07/01/08
The changes Vista have brought have been disruptive enough and they are sma  deowll | 06/30/08
Too many depending on Windows  Mikael_z | 07/15/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  Herb3 | 06/30/08
Question for you No_Startup,  rhomp2002@... | 06/30/08
No, we are not the 'consumers' to whom ...  mwagner@... | 06/30/08
The computer manufacturers are Microsoft's consumers  Herb3 | 06/30/08
Up to a point...  vulpine@... | 06/30/08
The hard ware is more than catching up with the software.  deowll | 06/30/08
Hmmm bit optomistic on apples behalf  willpd13 | 07/01/08
If you will note...  vulpine@... | 07/01/08
You said "way too consumer-oriented" ...  mwagner@... | 06/30/08
Wrong! Unless...  vulpine@... | 06/30/08
On a mac  LiquidLearner | 06/30/08
Re: On a mac  Jamik | 06/30/08
You wouldn't?  vulpine@... | 06/30/08
Enlighten me  LiquidLearner | 06/30/08
I love the way you choose...  vulpine@... | 07/01/08
What the heck are you talking about?  deowll | 06/30/08
hmm you might be forgeting something  willpd13 | 07/01/08
Agreed.  CobraA1 | 07/02/08
Good, not great  bbbaldie_z | 06/30/08
RE: Midori  adevine@... | 06/30/08
And...  payton@... | 06/30/08
Re: adevine's comment  sqr(cos(180)) | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  amberlodge1@... | 06/30/08
I agree if ....  JCitizen | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  ted@... | 06/30/08
backwards compatibility  posternb@... | 06/30/08
Memories, of the (OS/2) way we were!  sqr(cos(180)) | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello . . . OS X!  mark@... | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello... OS X... No, Wait...  mjlaverty@... | 06/30/08
I can't argue with your overall assessment...  vulpine@... | 06/30/08
MacOSX is a great alternative ...  mwagner@... | 06/30/08
"I can buy a 'decent' Windows Vista system..."  vulpine@... | 06/30/08
You looking for art or a computer - i.e. a Tool  socialism=nowhere | 07/01/08
Unlike you, I was comparing like-for-like.  vulpine@... | 07/01/08
You looking for art or a computer - i.e. a Tool  socialism=nowhere | 07/01/08
So you got made at MS because they don't like bad code any more.  deowll | 06/30/08
Win7 won't be Midori  prfesser | 06/30/08
RE: Win7 won't be Midori...  Narg | 06/30/08
Windows 7 - last chance for most of us...  JCitizen | 06/30/08
You're wrong ...  mwagner@... | 06/30/08
dell  atari8bit@... | 06/30/08
This is poor country; $1500 is way too high!  JCitizen | 07/01/08
XPS's  atari8bit@... | 09/16/08
Where? I doubt it - they've been sold out...  JCitizen | 07/01/08
re: Why do so many Mac or Linux zealots have such a selfish egotistic attit  mjlaverty@... | 06/30/08
You just leave it to no_ax and Loverock then?  odubtaig | 06/30/08
Ummm you left off the Mac users that are no  socialism=nowhere | 07/01/08
No I didn't; Read thread, then reply.  odubtaig | 07/01/08
Why do so many Mac or Linux zealots have such a selfish egotistic attitude?  vulpine@... | 06/30/08
Actually it doesn't much...  socialism=nowhere | 07/01/08
I notice you fall right in line with...  vulpine@... | 07/01/08
If they would have kept the GUI as dirt bag..  JCitizen | 07/01/08
Agreed on what people think.  deowll | 06/30/08
I don't understand why people take Microsoft Seriously  Breetai | 06/30/08
That's OK, we don't understand you either...  Narg | 06/30/08
Midori Sours?  Dr_Zinj | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  amberlodge1@... | 06/30/08
Ahem...Winux is coming...  techboy_z | 06/30/08
Riiiiiiight....  Narg | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  martin.okle@... | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  madhead@... | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  jbharidng | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  CURTSTINNETT@... | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  plovelace@... | 06/30/08
OH great.... Another OS to support...  Narg | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  Boykin01 | 06/30/08
UI concerns.  Narg | 06/30/08
Like KDE can't be run by my kindergarten clients?  JCitizen | 06/30/08
I did that.  deowll | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  dfweigel@... | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  gypkap@... | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  kd51145@... | 06/30/08
Oh no! Not again!  TristanGrimaux | 06/30/08
Lose .net as well - it's junk  stevey_d | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  Techscan | 06/30/08
If only the title was Goodbye Ballmer, Goodbye Vista  boed | 06/30/08
I strongly suspect it's Goodbye XP, Goodbye Microsoft  stevey_d | 06/30/08
Man, you got that right!......(NT)  JCitizen | 07/01/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  Fr_Davey | 06/30/08
Why they don't pull an OS X I don't know.  odubtaig | 06/30/08
Backwards compatibility has ...  mwagner@... | 06/30/08
plus amazing engineering from Apple engineers  stevey_d | 06/30/08
Midori is Linux  logitga@... | 06/30/08
Different Midori... coincidental name  posternb@... | 06/30/08
Midori is Linux  deowll | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  phatkat | 06/30/08
Developers knew about the deadline ...  mwagner@... | 06/30/08
Good time to EOL the Windows version of your software  stevey_d | 06/30/08
Take a hike on the drivers issue.  deowll | 06/30/08
you don't understand & I can't be bothered to explain this to you  stevey_d | 07/01/08
Vista is bloated everywhere  TristanGrimaux | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  Vengence1@... | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  Romano4444 | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Linux with Windows flavor  yoramnis | 06/30/08
Widows Vista  sborsher | 06/30/08
Just curious.  Anton Philidor | 06/30/08
Midori Linux is already around  stevey_d | 06/30/08
Why stick with an evolutionary dead end?  schmandel@... | 06/30/08
Doesn't Midori make you puke green?  nickc@... | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Leopard.  byte_me | 06/30/08
"Byte_me"  sqr(cos(180)) | 06/30/08
Good - go play in that forum...see-ya, bye-bye...nt  socialism=nowhere | 07/01/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  Mabrick | 06/30/08
I said goodbye to Windows XP in May 2002  tracy anne | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  Ken_SF | 06/30/08
RE: Midori Sours?  TiggerTom | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  Ronspruell | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  DigtalDude | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  dwesner7675@... | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  jasonwheeler | 06/30/08
with luck it will be CSP based  tony@... | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  marpincan@... | 06/30/08
Yes i agree  kami31@... | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  deowll | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  famulla | 06/30/08
Seriously? Too slow.  Shinsengumi | 06/30/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  atari8bit@... | 06/30/08
What Microsoft.com Has To Say About Midori  Brian from WV | 06/30/08
How about; Good bye Microsoft...  mikifinaz1@... | 06/30/08
Hah happy  CreepinJesus | 06/30/08
Hehe  TedKraan | 07/01/08
LOL - nt  socialism=nowhere | 07/01/08
You need to read Adrian's blog this week...  socialism=nowhere | 07/01/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  alpinesoft | 07/01/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  shalyak@... | 07/01/08
Really Mary? Spreading Your FUD Again I See  itanalyst2@... | 07/01/08
It's not FUD  GrimmReaperSound | 07/01/08
BZZZZZZT WRONG  itanalyst2@... | 07/01/08
double BZZZT  GrimmReaperSound | 07/02/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  rbomb | 07/01/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  gildedlink | 07/01/08
ack...  gildedlink | 07/01/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  jasonwheeler | 07/01/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  evilkillerwhale@... | 07/01/08
It'll be time for Jack and Coke.  rtirman37@... | 07/02/08
Spec#  CobraA1 | 07/02/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  WhiteSand | 07/03/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  InsaneWayne | 07/03/08
M$ trying to get their users a booze?  utugau | 07/03/08
I Dumped windows and use all Linux on my pcs.  cricketnest@... | 07/04/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  cricketnest@... | 07/04/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  nyctechsupport | 07/08/08
forget legacy  NemesisNL | 07/09/08
Two OSes during phase out & Subscription based  BillDem | 07/09/08
Hello, Midori?????  Aaron A Baker | 07/09/08
If Vista is so good...  Jeremy W | 07/10/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  jhozae | 07/15/08
Re: Midori  catmedia | 07/31/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  Kaisch | 08/07/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  spliceh | 08/08/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  jlb@... | 09/16/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  dwbeek367@... | 09/16/08
HAHAHAAHA WHAT?  zupobaloop | 09/16/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  seonist | 10/21/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  matthewjmurphy | 12/22/08
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  bklooste | 04/22/09
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  bklooste | 04/22/09
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  bklooste | 04/22/09
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  bklooste | 04/22/09
Kernel not that important  bklooste | 04/22/09
RE: Goodbye, XP. Hello, Midori  bklooste | 04/24/09
no real product  bklooste | 04/24/09
no real product  bklooste | 04/24/09

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