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For the record, I requested more information from the European Commission regarding exactly how OOXML fits into its latest investigation and got no response.

I emailed the ECIS about their complaint too. Also no responce. However, their web site now has a news piece saying the investigation is based on their Feb 2006 complaint.

For a complaint and investigation about the lack of openess on Microsoft's part, its highly ironic that they keep it so secret.
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Open Specification Promise precludes OSS from implementing  SpikeyMike | 01/17/08
Mike is confused  easson | 01/17/08
Fraid not, sir.  SpikeyMike | 01/17/08
If there is a problem is lies in GPL.  TheTruthisOutThere@... | 01/17/08
If it were truly open,  bjbrock | 01/17/08
If the GPL were truley open  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/17/08
No one is forced  daengbo | 01/18/08
But Axey, No one is required to give away their code.  Update victim | 01/19/08
As usally  Jxn | 02/04/08
Mike is just plain wrong -- no patents in OOXML  easson | 01/17/08
Link  SpikeyMike | 01/17/08
You are absolutely right, Mikey  Ole Man | 01/17/08
To bad you are not  GuidingLight | 01/17/08
I think I would have preferred...  ego.sum.stig@... | 01/18/08
Well you should be happy to know  GuidingLight | 01/18/08
Completely wrong  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/17/08
Thanks, Axey  Update victim | 01/19/08
No, you are wrong  Jxn | 02/04/08
Misinformation from MSFT? How could that be?  Jeremy W | 01/18/08
I like the candid content of your posts  Ole Man | 01/18/08
ROTFL!  GuidingLight | 01/18/08
Sorry Mike but....  TtfnJohn | 01/18/08
You are wrong...  Jxn | 02/04/08
Message has been deleted.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/17/08
See Miguel de Icaza's response  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 01/17/08
Being Free of lawsuits  SpikeyMike | 01/17/08
What excally is it you want to sublicense?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/17/08
The Spec...  John Carroll ZDNet Moderator | 01/17/08
I wonder...  Jxn | 02/04/08
EU and OOML  TheTruthisOutThere@... | 01/17/08
MJ, are you sure?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 01/17/08
converter  Mary Jo Foley ZDNet Moderator | 01/17/08
Yabbut  Yagotta B. Kidding | 01/17/08
Sun ODF Plug-in  SpikeyMike | 01/17/08
MJ: You are actually totally confused here  easson | 01/17/08
Care to share a link?  SpikeyMike | 01/17/08
I would like to see MS truly open...  bjbrock | 01/17/08
It is  easson | 01/17/08
Agreed!  SpikeyMike | 01/17/08
How would you make the specification any more open?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/17/08
Its all very meaningless  DemonX | 01/17/08
Microsoft failed  BALTHOR | 01/17/08
Failed? In what measurable way?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/17/08
Wanna believe what Bill Gates said about Microsoft?  Ole Man | 01/17/08
Bill Gates lying? How could that be?  Jeremy W | 01/18/08
But then what makes you believable?  GuidingLight | 01/18/08
The solution is...  Jeremy W | 01/18/08
It is what you want to see  GuidingLight | 01/18/08
The joke is on you!  Ole Man | 01/18/08
IIf I misread your post, then you have my appologies  GuidingLight | 01/18/08
That's OK..... Sorry I missed your link  Ole Man | 01/18/08
Any doubts about MSFT ethical position are extinguished  Jeremy W | 01/20/08
This site should change its name to (MS) Shillnet  Joseph Gerbils | 01/17/08
Yeah, way to win people over. NOT!!!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/18/08
Not trusting anything Microsoft says  jjon2121 | 01/18/08
Whining "Shill" however...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/18/08
Rule of thumb: Trust MSFT always to be deceitful...  Jeremy W | 01/18/08
Rule of thumb: Trust Jeremy W always to be deceitful...  GuidingLight | 01/18/08
OOXML Vs ODF Irrelevant  Gordon_Fern | 01/18/08
I tend to agree with you.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/18/08
MS just took that away by making their formats a standard.  Ole Man | 01/18/08
Opinion of the very few  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/18/08
May be the opinion of the very "tiny" minority  Ole Man | 01/18/08
Keep on dreaming old man  transposeIT | 01/18/08
Then again............ who knows?  Ole Man | 01/18/08
And how?  thungurknifur | 01/21/08
So NoAx and John carroll should stop pushing this  stevey_d | 01/31/08
MSFT always bends to other guy over!!!  Jeremy W | 01/18/08
Care to say ANYTHING having to do with the topic?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/18/08
He probably thought the topic was Microsoft  Ole Man | 01/18/08
The topic is...  Jeremy W | 01/18/08
My post was obviously aimed at No_Fax_In_Mind  Ole Man | 01/18/08
The main question...  Jeremy W | 01/18/08
Wow!  transposeIT | 01/18/08
At least we don't have delusions of grandeur  Ole Man | 01/18/08
Have you has your WOW IS NOW moments  Jeremy W | 01/18/08
Is it really open?  John Musbach | 01/18/08
This just doesn't make sense...  Ole Man | 01/18/08
or just not  Jxn | 02/04/08
Sorry, was a comment  Jxn | 02/04/08

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