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Only freedom is the real loser
While corporations whose goals are to
exploit the public (using well-placed
lobbying and bribes) will be winners.

The rich get richer, and the poor get
poorer.

C'est La Vie
Posted by: Ole Man   Posted on: 11/14/07 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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Only freedom is the real loser  Ole Man | 11/14/07
you are too right (nt)  Quebec-french | 11/14/07
Hmmm, FREEDOM to make a CHOICE is bad?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
You've got to remember...  rapson | 11/14/07
One HUGE problem with your argument.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
And, no one can prevent them from needing to communicate with partners,  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
I can't wait for the next general election ...  fr0thy | 11/15/07
Soon, NoAxe, you're going to be paying more...  Media-Ted@... | 11/15/07
because with proprietary standard its not a choice  Quebec-french | 11/14/07
Argument overbroad  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
And if new softqware had to be written...  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
What does all the conflabulation about an old format  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Make the assumption...  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
Who made this "a should-be thread"?  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Yes, Microsoft could change Office to ODF...  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
When everyone disagrees  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Or.......  xuniL_z | 11/14/07
well xunilz here a other solution  Quebec-french | 11/14/07
In other words, Quebec-French, it's good  xuniL_z | 11/14/07
Xunil_Z its all on wich side you site  Quebec-french | 11/15/07
You're basically right  maldain | 11/15/07
Since Microsoft  Update victim | 11/15/07
you are right  Quebec-french | 11/14/07
"open/free/no string attached standard"  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
its may be true but  Quebec-french | 11/14/07
We have the freedom to be peasants  fr0thy | 11/15/07
Picking nits with somebody else's statements  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Not really  Freebird54 | 11/17/07
Bzzzzt... Wrong again.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
your dead worng on that  Quebec-french | 11/14/07
Dude, your ranting is boring.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
well you just prouve a other point on what kind of people you are no ax  Quebec-french | 11/14/07
Replying to your nonesense is pointless  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Once more old slow one...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
This small group is not the ODF, and we do not really know what they are  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
You tell us  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/14/07
For a guy who talk as much as you do...  SpikeyMike | 11/14/07
He'll never get it, Mikey  Ole Man | 11/14/07
The loss comes from the  Update victim | 11/15/07
Free to choose what?  bcroner | 11/15/07
CDF? But, but, but  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Straw Donkey  odubtaig | 11/14/07
Not in the forums I seen  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
You're not looking hard enough.  odubtaig | 11/14/07
Nope, just another MS bashing web site.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Right, anybody that has a problem with MS business practices is a "basher"  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
In the absence of counter-argument you bring out the insults again (NT)  odubtaig | 11/15/07
Axey is great at insults...  TtfnJohn | 11/15/07
Yeah, but  xuniL_z | 11/14/07
When? (NT)  odubtaig | 11/15/07
Lost your dictionary, again, I see (if you ever had one)  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Don't whine to me becuase they want two standards  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Again, who is "they". This is not the ODF,  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Spin, spin, spin...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
The spin is that this is more than a small group. Do you have any evidence  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Ha ha, your prowess as a comedian  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Ok, I will give you the lesson you want.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Hopefully standards bodies do not, as you say, accept any #@$% thing. And,  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
So what's the big deal about approving Microsoft format as a standard?  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Doing Something  dstam | 11/14/07
Not 2 standards in the same area, no  putt1ck | 11/15/07
Like your opinions  DonRupertBitByte | 11/15/07
congratulations to Mary....  sj_z | 11/14/07
Don't blame it on Mary Jo, she is just reporting here. We can not just  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
LOL, the ODF folds like cards and  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Again, nothing folding here, just a small support group expressing their  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
No disagreement, just some thoughts  DannyO_0x98 | 11/14/07
I agree, CHOICE is a GOOD thing  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Choice of office suites is good, but consumers to NOT want to chose the  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Three guys are ODF? You're dreamimg again!  TtfnJohn | 11/15/07
Well, Microsoft wins this round. But, we still need to be looking into this  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
ROFL... Dude, your gonna pass out from  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
You are the one trying to spin this for more than it is. This is a very  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Buwahahaha, why do they want more than one standard  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
This is NOT the ODF, this is a tiny support group, and we cannot keep them  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
can not keep them from agreeing with No_Ax_to_Grind  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Again, this is NOT the ODF, this is just a small support group.  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
And that group agrees with me.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
And, this group is insignificant. We know you want to spin this as somthing  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Wow. ODFoundation folds  GuidingLight | 11/14/07
This organization used the ODF name, but they were just a little support  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
When you cut the head from the snake...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
This organization was only a support group. Nothing more.  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Keep telling yourself that.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Keep telling yourself that this is more than just a small group expressing  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Credibility Lost  kyron.gustafson@... | 11/14/07
****-a-doodle-doo  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Oh my, what an adult post.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
The irony...  bmerc | 11/16/07
WHY ODF exists  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
Funny how they dropped the mantra of  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
ODF had the predicted weakness: ...  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
Great spin, Anton  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Questions, then.  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
Well, that is a whole other debate. Is ODF in fact complete enough to  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
ODF supporters recognize publicly...  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
The question is whether or not is really has to be as complicated as OOXML,  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Microsoft thought so.  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
No, the standards people have to delve into the details. They can not just  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Why ask what Microsoft should be allowed to do?  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Because Microsoft doesn't own this game.  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
Another great spin  Ole Man | 11/14/07
+1  gary.edwards | 11/16/07
Again, this is NOT the entire ODF community, ONLY a small supprt group.  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Oh my, how the worm turns.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Multiple, not duplicate standard formats  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
Keepo in mind DonnieBoy ranted for months  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
The argument for a single document standard did NOT suddenly change. I am  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
So lets hear your rant against them  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
I really do not know this small group, nor do I know exactly what they are  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Yes, we could get into arguing about when multiple standards are good, and  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
With your intellect  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Either I'm not following you...  Anton Philidor | 11/14/07
And, these are all very interesting arguments. Is ODF complete enought to  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Just as I thought  Ole Man | 11/14/07
Embarrasingly for the OpenDocument Foundation  UserLand | 11/14/07
That is always the problem with a standard, its a boat anchor  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Actually...  UserLand | 11/14/07
Really, sothen show me  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Embarrasing indeed  Ole Man | 11/14/07
So much for United we Stand  nucrash | 11/14/07
Nobody got any messages, a small group expressing their opinion does not  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Hu huh, sorry but no one else buys it.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
Right you are little martian dude.  odubtaig | 11/14/07
Well, no matter how extreme ones views might be, you can almost always find  DonnieBoy | 11/14/07
Nope, you are intentionally wrong  TripleII | 11/14/07
No Facts strikes again!  SpikeyMike | 11/14/07
ODF is ISO/IEC 26300, OASIS Open Document Format for Office Applications  B.O.F.H. | 11/15/07
RE: OpenDocument Foundation folds; will Microsoft benefit?  argosy1@... | 11/14/07
the fight must go on!  Linux Geek | 11/14/07
Go ahead, we all need a good laugh  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/14/07
which fight?  royalstream | 11/15/07
Three guys in a tub. Rub-a-dub-dub?  orcmid | 11/14/07
3 Guys drop ODF is the end of the world?  TripleII | 11/14/07
I mean, c'mon, a taped paper sign and a blog?  TripleII | 11/14/07
I call shenanigans!  Resuna | 11/14/07
In your dreams  Robert Kohlenberger | 11/14/07
Handing out huge bonus checks  Ole Man | 11/14/07
No  John Musbach | 11/14/07
which fight?  royalstream | 11/15/07
Open Document Format  aryu.limitless@... | 11/15/07
Only ONE standard??  archangel999 | 11/15/07
The myopia of the lunatic fringe  Ole Man | 11/15/07
Complete Baloney  archangel999 | 11/15/07
Your train left the track  Ole Man | 11/15/07
RE: OpenDocument Foundation folds; will Microsoft benefit?  rawright@... | 11/15/07
perfect example  rawright@... | 11/15/07
Sorry, Mary Jo, you're reading too much into this.  TtfnJohn | 11/15/07
RE: OpenDocument Foundation folds; will Microsoft benefit?  dragonjohn77070@... | 11/15/07
Senseless article  Mitch 74 | 11/15/07
Give me colors!  kidtree | 11/16/07
RE: OpenDocument Foundation folds; will Microsoft benefit?  Master Guru | 11/16/07
Many tricks have been employed throughout history  Ole Man | 11/16/07

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