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And that's why . . .
. . . you never commit to a delivery date. Because then you commit yourself to
hitting it. And that's been the biggest problem Vista and Leopard have both faced.
It's not like end users, in either case, would have been bothered by another 6-12
months delay.

I don't think Vista obsession was the real reason why there are issues - Mac sales
have risen since the release of Vista, without a new version of OS X. The real
reason, I suspect, is internal distraction - i.e. the iPhone, AppleTV, new (non-
touch) iPod firmware all needed development and QA - and you can't just hire more
and throw them at it at the END of a project.

(Hence it's not a case of putting more resources into development than marketing
or hardware design. Or rather that the decision needed to be made 2 years ago,
when someone underestimated the amount of work).

Mary, for what it's worth, it's always been possible to find Mac users with
complaints about OS X, and OS X upgrades - they were certainly there with Tiger.

There's definitely more issues and snagging bugs this time, but I didn't think that
was the issue people have with Vista?

The negative statements I've seen have all related to it's resource requirements and
features like UAC, rather than it being a mass of bugs. (A shame really as the 'under
the hood' improvements in security are probably a worthwhile upgrade for most
Windows users, but people don't 'get' paying for non-visual features - hence the
daft 3D dock in Leopard).
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They should do nothing of the sort  fredsmith6 | 11/06/07
yes, instead of spending all that $ on those PC-mocking commercials...  killerbunny | 11/06/07
Twice Dell's market cap  YinToYourYang-22527499 | 11/06/07
Apple apologists are HILARIOUS!!!  NonZealot | 11/06/07
Sorry, but nothing remotely like it is happening  YinToYourYang-22527499 | 11/06/07
Face reality  Bozzer | 11/07/07
You know Carson Daily too?  rtk | 11/07/07
Wow...  Anim8me2 | 11/19/07
And that's why . . .  JulesLt | 11/06/07
Is crime increasing? Is the planet getting warmer?  YinToYourYang-22527499 | 11/06/07
vista is all ready fixed for the most part  SO.CAL Guy | 11/06/07
"...vista is all ready fixed for the most part..."  TechExec2 | 11/06/07
Vista isn't fixed and MS doesn't have it easier.  the_man_in_the_grey_flannel_shorts | 11/06/07
Vista was never broken,  rtk | 11/06/07
You're joking...right?  iMouse | 11/11/07
sadly, I'm guessing you're not joking.  rtk | 11/11/07
2 TIPS for sluggish 'Vista'  Mujibahr | 11/06/07
Wait...  Anim8me2 | 11/19/07
Um...no crashes used it since February...must be the user  socialism=nowhere | 11/07/07
Why blame the software  Bozzer | 11/07/07
Vista is more stable than XP for me  willpd13 | 11/08/07
I'll take that ol yingyang...  socialism=nowhere | 11/07/07
I hope nothing so crass.  TheTruthisOutThere@... | 11/06/07
MS has good taste, Apple has none  NonZealot | 11/06/07
Message has been deleted.  YinToYourYang-22527499 | 11/06/07
You're kidding, right?  kboggs@... | 11/06/07
RE: It's payback time: If the Vista team could write ad copy ...  Blad_Rnr | 11/06/07
Oh, wow, I can't resist!  itpro_z | 11/06/07
Research your claims before you post outright falsehoods.  Joel R | 11/07/07
Actually...  itpro_z | 11/07/07
I'm sorry,  Anim8me2 | 11/19/07
OS X Firewall works pretty damned well...  rtk | 11/20/07
Dude  ewelch | 11/20/07
RE: It's payback time: If the Vista team could write ad copy ...  Martin Pilkington | 11/06/07
This is not accurate.  TheTruthisOutThere@... | 11/06/07
Go ahead! Make my day!  TechExec2 | 11/06/07
"Spectacular failure"  itpro_z | 11/06/07
The fallacy of claimed Vista channel sales vs. running systems  TechExec2 | 11/06/07
Sorry, you are wrong  itpro_z | 11/06/07
Keep trying... You might find something that sticks (but I doubt it)  TechExec2 | 11/06/07
Once again...  itpro_z | 11/06/07
Just one question  Anim8me2 | 11/19/07
And it would seem that the internet  GuidingLight | 11/06/07
Just made mine!  justanitguy | 11/07/07
Leopard SUCKS!!! angry  TechExec2 | 11/06/07
Message has been deleted.  itpro_z | 11/06/07
Poor TechExec  itpro_z | 11/06/07
One thing...  ego.sum.stig@... | 11/06/07
Somewhere in between  itpro_z | 11/06/07
I think you need to change your screen name...  socialism=nowhere | 11/07/07
RE: It's payback time: If the Vista team could write ad copy ...  drylight | 11/06/07
RE: It's payback time: If the Vista team could write ad copy ...  aaronmiller@... | 11/06/07
How much is Microsoft paying you anyway?  the_man_in_the_grey_flannel_shorts | 11/06/07
Microsoft doesn't pay me anything  itpro_z | 11/06/07
What I'm running it on.  the_man_in_the_grey_flannel_shorts | 11/06/07
Thank you...  itpro_z | 11/06/07
Payback?  itpro_z | 11/06/07
Thank you Mary Jo  imacwesker | 11/06/07
RE: It's payback time: If the Vista team could write ad copy ...  macgruder | 11/06/07
RE: It's payback time: If the Vista team could write ad copy ...  cucciasv | 11/06/07
RE: It's payback time: If the Vista team could write ad copy ...  drylight | 11/06/07
The Vista team DID write ad copy: "Wow." Remember?  buddhistMonkey | 11/07/07
Come on  dahlenu | 11/07/07
Still using Tiger, still better than Vista  thegestunkenaraygun | 11/07/07
RE: It's payback time: If the Vista team could write ad copy ...  spikedstrider | 11/07/07
I lauged at this....  aoleon | 11/07/07
Mr. Desperate  macgruder | 11/07/07
One Rule For MS, One For Apple  paul@... | 11/07/07
RE: It's payback time: If the Vista team could write ad copy ...  vidoblog | 11/07/07
No need for "ad copy".....  Ole Man | 11/07/07
I hate Linux, but it may be the answer  johnmarshall@... | 11/07/07
Apple Software Seed  CowLauncher | 11/07/07
Pretty much everything you said...  itpro_z | 11/08/07
cowlauncher, you're on the right track!  derekgore | 11/07/07
But ... the Mac DOES just work ... except when it doesn't! laugh  TechExec2 | 11/08/07
Mac OSX is truly the finest computer in the world?  itpro_z | 11/08/07
Pretending is for children  TechExec2 | 11/09/07
WGA  itpro_z | 11/09/07
I have answers for that  TechExec2 | 11/09/07
We'll see  itpro_z | 11/09/07
You continue to draw incorrect conclusions and to twist what I've said!  TechExec2 | 11/09/07
Boost Sales  DannyO_0x98 | 11/07/07
O-ow  TriangleJuice | 11/08/07
Ridiculous  smezjj@... | 11/08/07
I have to agree  itpro_z | 11/08/07
Viruses for mac? You just proved yourself to me.  mr_matalino | 11/20/07
Mary Jo "The Ridiculous" Foley  IAHawkeye | 11/08/07
payback?  shane_z | 11/19/07
Is that journalism?  dddddddddd3426456 | 11/19/07
RE: It's payback time: If the Vista team could write ad copy ...  ubulgur | 11/20/07
You have hit the pinnacle of pathetic  rtk | 11/20/07
RE: It's payback time: If the Vista team could write ad copy ...  Macjammer | 11/20/07
nice try  rtk | 11/20/07
Accounting for taste or lack thereof  Macjammer | 11/20/07
RE: It's payback time: If the Vista team could write ad copy ...  SOFOD001 | 11/20/07
You're kidding, right?  ewelch | 11/20/07
RE: It's payback time: If the Vista team could write ad copy ...  kentonr | 11/20/07
Congratulations  rtk | 11/20/07
RE: It's payback time: If the Vista team could write ad copy ...  Gordon Gonsalves | 11/20/07
RE: It's payback time: FUD from a professional TROLL  derekcurrie | 11/20/07
Welcome to the new Paul Thurrott  eldernorm | 11/21/07
RE: It's payback time: If the Vista team could write ad copy ...  Altmax | 11/21/07
RE: It's payback time: If the Vista team could write ad copy ...  dbcoyle6@... | 11/22/07

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