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The name of the game
It's called "creative accounting" in legal circles, and hyped as "big business" by the liberal press (all owned by corporate America).

Street language has many more colorful, easy to understand descriptors for what Microsoft and other predatory corporations are doing.

Blowing smoke and flashing mirrors. Spreading manure is the product of their best efforts.
Posted by: Ole Man   Posted on: 10/25/07 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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The name of the game  Ole Man | 10/25/07
the game  aussieblnd@... | 10/25/07
Just say No to Vista.  ajv123 | 11/21/07
The Forums are busy  ajv123 | 11/21/07
Numbers are misleading.  Rick_K | 10/25/07
Yes, you wonder  mdemuth | 10/25/07
Don't forget...  Rick_K | 10/27/07
they  richvball44 | 10/27/07
the only yard stick?  ajv123 | 11/21/07
AS LONG as VISTA COPIES are not IN MICROSOFT hands  filizaragoza@... | 12/04/07
So? Retailers stock Vista shrink-wrapped ...  mwagner@... | 10/26/07
The geeks are laughing at Vista....  devlin_X | 10/27/07
No respect among thiefs  ajv123 | 11/21/07
Retail is irrelevant  notsofast | 10/26/07
Average users don't know about OEM discs.....  devlin_X | 10/27/07
Joe sick pack doesn't buy any OS at retail. (nt)  rtk | 10/27/07
You'd be surprised how many do....  devlin_X | 10/27/07
I'm not surprised that a few do.  rtk | 10/27/07
Vendor Ripoff  ajv123 | 11/21/07
Apple's numbers aren't any more accurate  quikboy | 10/25/07
numbers aren't any more accurate  aussieblnd@... | 10/25/07
Why worry about it...ALL Companies  socialism=nowhere | 10/26/07
BTW didn'tyou ust answer his question...(nt)  socialism=nowhere | 10/26/07
They are not counting copies  alaniane@... | 10/26/07
But they are counting copies  mad tabby | 10/26/07
No no no.  rtk | 10/26/07
You're missing the point  alaniane@... | 11/05/07
Yup.  ajv123 | 11/21/07
RE: Windows Vista: More than 88 million copies sold  blackout8000 | 10/25/07
Don't count on it  aussieblnd@... | 10/25/07
Actually a lot of people have found things....  socialism=nowhere | 10/26/07
Actually a lot of people have found things....  aussieblnd@... | 10/26/07
IE7 ?  mad tabby | 10/26/07
Just look at DirectX 10  PhilippeV | 10/26/07
You may be too young to remember; but,  Mujibahr | 10/26/07
Works well? Vista's kernel is largely bogous  PhilippeV | 10/26/07
I wonder how many are like myself  roaming | 10/25/07
I wonder how many are like myself  aussieblnd@... | 10/25/07
yes of course.  rtk | 10/25/07
yes of course.  aussieblnd@... | 10/25/07
matches stevie's basement.  rtk | 10/26/07
LOL - that's pretty good.  socialism=nowhere | 10/26/07
That would be the same for me  sullystuff | 10/26/07
Probably MANY like you including me!  3D_Animator | 10/26/07
Probably MANY  aussieblnd@... | 10/26/07
I don't run my copies.  jlathrop@... | 10/26/07
You got COPIES??  mad tabby | 10/26/07
And I Wonder...  rkuhn040172@... | 10/26/07
How many voluntary copies, I wonder  pwabrahams | 10/26/07
Are you joking?  notsofast | 10/26/07
I Have several clients.. in 3 Months  filizaragoza@... | 12/04/07
The Genius of Vista's "Anytime Upgrade" Marketing  cnfrisch | 10/25/07
The Genius of Vista's "Anytime De-Activation" Piracy Protection Scheme!  TechExec2 | 10/26/07
Actuall I'm using Ubuntu 7.10 now...  socialism=nowhere | 10/26/07
I'm also have Ubuntu Server 7.04 running  socialism=nowhere | 10/26/07
Sometimes its the hardware  alaniane@... | 10/26/07
Several hours of research?  MisterMiester | 10/26/07
So 1/25 the licenses.  Rick_K | 10/26/07
Re: The Genius of Vista's "Anytime Upgrade" Marketing  voconnor@... | 10/26/07
Vista user support calls to Microsoft are 20% LESS  Ole Man | 10/26/07
Because they returned to XP  PhilippeV | 10/26/07
Vista user support calls to Microsoft are 20% LESS  mystic100 | 10/28/07
"Anytime Upgrade"  aussieblnd@... | 10/26/07
88 Million, huh?  Userama | 10/25/07
Microsoft must be using Excel 2007 to get these numbers laugh  TechExec2 | 10/26/07
Probably compared to the prior year.  Anton Philidor | 10/26/07
"surprised at the intelligence of the people who prepare and evaluate those  Ole Man | 10/26/07
How many financial reports have to be restated later?  mystic100 | 10/28/07
I just got Vista Ultimate  TheTruthisOutThere@... | 10/26/07
I'm guessing a good proportion haven't...  Ben_E | 10/26/07
" hasn't affected them in the slightest"  Ole Man | 10/26/07
I'd bet most have not...  socialism=nowhere | 10/26/07
Yes, I have, it sux  jim.denny@... | 10/26/07
Vista  aussieblnd@... | 10/26/07
Join the club.  ajv123 | 11/21/07
Yeah the channel loves Vista!!  BobF_z | 10/26/07
Resource hungry Vista?  MisterMiester | 10/26/07
Actually the salesman was a jack!!! if that is what he was telling them...  socialism=nowhere | 10/26/07
Customer wanted Ultimate version ...  MisterMiester | 10/26/07
Well considering that you had two choices in XP  mad tabby | 10/26/07
Close, three.  rtk | 10/26/07
Resource hungry Vista?  aussieblnd@... | 10/26/07
Are they retail, OEM or 'purchased and removed'?  thegtapatriot@... | 10/26/07
RE: Windows Vista: More than 88 million copies sold  SirCatlord | 10/26/07
answer this.  rtk | 10/26/07
Isn't today the last day Macs will be pre-loaded with Tiger?  ye | 10/26/07
keep it in mind...  rtk | 10/26/07
How long do you think Apple should continue selling 10.4?  aussieblnd@... | 10/26/07
What????  socialism=nowhere | 10/26/07
"Forced all its OEMs to stop selling XP"?  Anton Philidor | 10/26/07
XP sales will have to be extended  PhilippeV | 10/26/07
You're badly misinterpreted the business situation.  rtk | 10/26/07
badly misinterpreted  aussieblnd@... | 10/26/07
logic issues much?  rtk | 10/26/07
Too late.  Anton Philidor | 10/26/07
Not too late  freddy@... | 01/05/08
You wanna talk bloat??  freddy@... | 01/05/08
Tricky math  rcfoulk@... | 10/26/07
Count us in as part of the 88 million...  rcar | 10/26/07
The only sensible comment so far.  freddy@... | 01/05/08
How Many Vista copies were replaced by XP  1984Overdue | 10/26/07
Very few consumers ...  mwagner@... | 10/26/07
Exactly - ~6000 users world wide custome software.  socialism=nowhere | 10/26/07
how many? how's 2 sound?  rtk | 10/26/07
RE: Windows Vista: More than 88 million copies sold  mwagner@... | 10/26/07
AMEN!!!  socialism=nowhere | 10/26/07
re:AMEN  drobinow | 10/26/07
My first Vista  Mujibahr | 10/26/07
"vast majority"?  Anton Philidor | 10/26/07
Not just upgrade users put off  rcfoulk@... | 10/26/07
The second intelligent response I've seen here  freddy@... | 01/05/08
I am sure a lot brought Windows ME also  Randalllind | 10/26/07
Right on the money  Ole Man | 10/26/07
To All Hand-Wringers  lmenningen | 10/26/07
LOL - (nt)  socialism=nowhere | 10/26/07
Vista really sucks  jim.denny@... | 10/26/07
88 million copies sold ...  msdead | 10/26/07
Perhaps you would be so good as to contact the SEC and...  ye | 10/26/07
I love vista...  robt@... | 10/26/07
Vista only "succeeds" when you have VERY LOW EXPECTATIONS  TechExec2 | 10/27/07
Yes Mary Jo ...  msdead | 10/26/07
Windows Vista, One Copy in Limbo  rgeiken@... | 10/26/07
SOLD??????  sboyce@... | 10/26/07
Beware: these are "presales" volumes  PhilippeV | 10/26/07
Being the new version of Linux a good one.  Teoyaomiqui | 10/26/07
WOW! What a terrible number for MS.  Letophoro | 10/26/07
Exactly and for mroe info: read this  stevey_d | 10/29/07
Vista is HORRIBLE  savagesteve13 | 10/26/07
Vista is HORRIBLE  aussieblnd@... | 10/26/07
RE: Windows Vista: More than 88 million copies sold  itsupport@... | 10/26/07
Windows Vista users are very intelligent  cnfrisch | 10/26/07
And what OS did you think MS would use  mad tabby | 10/26/07
Dog Food vt : to use one's own products as a test  TechExec2 | 10/27/07
PR is more the issue  rcfoulk@... | 10/27/07
What are you smoking?  Rick_K | 10/28/07
2000 happened 7 years ago  bcroner | 10/26/07
The other pocket is Jobs.  rtk | 10/26/07
As opposed to OSX?  Crestview | 10/26/07
Tried VISTA & Office 2007 they.......  carlsf@... | 10/26/07
I hope your...  freddy@... | 01/05/08
Ah, after reading all 99 comments, this reminds me of the gool old days...  Confused by religion | 10/26/07
Come back when you've actually used it.  freddy@... | 01/05/08
88 million copies is no surprise  james.faction | 10/26/07
I've seen no evidence of XP sales going up  rtk | 10/27/07
Keep the following in mind  nucrash | 10/29/07
downgrade rights are nothing new.  rtk | 10/29/07
Not with OEM  nucrash | 10/29/07
OEM and Voulme licensing only.  rtk | 10/29/07
Followup  rtk | 10/29/07
OEM blackmails mostly I'll bet...  mikifinaz1@... | 10/26/07
I used ME for 10 mins then went back to 98  Randalllind | 10/27/07
Can't they show us the numbers w/o lying?  devlin_X | 10/27/07
Vista RTM was 11-08-2006  cnfrisch | 10/27/07
If an OEM doesn't sell the equipment its not a sale...  devlin_X | 10/27/07
I call shenanigans on your 4 to 1 stat.  rtk | 10/27/07
agree with devlin- number do seem twisted  bicard | 10/27/07
I would say, these numner mean about 20 Million acrtual copies sold  XweAponX | 10/27/07
RE: Windows Vista: More than 88 million copies sold  mikel137@... | 10/27/07
Schools shouldn't sign licensing agreements with Microsoft  n0neXn0ne | 10/27/07
What They Are NOT Reporting  itanalyst | 10/28/07
Whine whine whine  tonymcs@... | 10/28/07
Then the other shoe dropped  Ole Man | 10/28/07
M$ is fudging the numbers again  Linux Geek | 10/29/07
Microsoft has turned in to a sales org  ajv123 | 11/21/07
I have a good idea, why don't we sell Vista and allow downgrade?  nucrash | 10/29/07
Supping with Microsoft  Ole Man | 10/30/07
RE: Windows Vista: More than 88 million copies sold  Jackie150 | 10/11/09
RE: Windows Vista: More than 88 million copies sold  sexy costumes | 11/11/09

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