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Ya gotta love the answer to the first question: "No futher details are
available at this time.".

Seems to me, ALL the details are available, they are just not being released.

A truthful answer is: "The truth and the details would embarrass the hell out of us and cause no end of problems for us. We are only going to act like a bully and try to scare people at this time."
Posted by: DonnieBoy   Posted on: 05/16/07 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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Ya gotta love the answer to the first question: "No futher details are  DonnieBoy | 05/16/07
Ya gotta love the people  John Zern | 05/16/07
When ?  magcomment | 05/16/07
If I was making wild arse acusations, I would give the details, or I would  DonnieBoy | 05/16/07
If you had anything of value or stockholders  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/16/07
And therein lies the problem  BobF_z | 05/17/07
So true, the bad lawyers will encourage you to create legal problems that  DonnieBoy | 05/17/07
And, are lawyers also experts on puplic relations?? Do Lawyers know  DonnieBoy | 05/17/07
You seem to thing PR matters  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/17/07
Your kidding...  Northwolf | 05/18/07
What the hell?  devlin_X | 06/08/07
Why not state which patents are being violated?  maldain | 05/17/07
Since MS proxy SCOX .....  Northwolf | 05/18/07
Sounds Just Like the US Gov't  andrej770 | 05/29/07
It's pretty simple  tombalablomba | 05/16/07
So, MS licensing payments to Eolas will start flowing...  dpnewkirk | 05/16/07
Why would they pay?  KTLA | 05/16/07
Patents vs. Trademarks  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/16/07
Can lose patent damages by delays  phil@... | 05/17/07
The land of make beleive ...  MisterMiester | 05/16/07
One set of rules  StorageGuru | 05/16/07
I agree  IMS_Scott | 05/16/07
Re: IMS_Scott Right! Software Patents Cripple Innovation! happy  i2fun@... | 05/17/07
I second that  magcomment | 05/16/07
Quite right  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/16/07
one set of rule for multiple country ?????  Quebec-french | 05/17/07
Useless Information  D. T. Schmitz | 05/16/07
Microsoft will take a license IF they get to write the license ...  George Mitchell | 05/16/07
Not really  Confused by religion | 05/16/07
I'm sure that was intentional  Michael Kelly | 05/16/07
Let me make it simple for you ...  George Mitchell | 05/16/07
I guess you never heard of negotiating.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/16/07
Negociating what?  George Mitchell | 05/16/07
ANYTHING can be negotiated.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/16/07
Those who negociate with MS always ending losing their shirts ...  George Mitchell | 05/16/07
You can throw a billion dollars at RMS or the FSF  Michael Kelly | 05/16/07
When did MS ever publiccly state that  John Zern | 05/16/07
I'm sure he means "free as in freedom"  Michael Kelly | 05/16/07
Free as in GPL John ... Guess I thought it would be obvious ...  George Mitchell | 05/16/07
Frankly...  A_Pickle | 05/16/07
So don't "utilize a BIT of [GPL] code"!  Zogg | 05/17/07
You can use GPL code..  Northwolf | 05/18/07
As distinct from, for instance,  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/16/07
Ah, yes, especially the part where they negotiated  Ole Man | 05/17/07
Correction  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/16/07
Wouldn't it be funny....  Northwolf | 05/18/07
Really? Novell doesn't agree with you.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/16/07
Novell doesn't agree with MS as to what the agreement covers either ...  George Mitchell | 05/16/07
Does it matter at all?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/16/07
You have a point ... why should ethics matter ...  George Mitchell | 05/16/07
Ethics??? Its Linux that is infringing.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/16/07
That's *potentially* infringing.  Zogg | 05/16/07
Go tell Stallman.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/16/07
Still afraid to cite, eh?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/16/07
sigh  sjaaxken | 05/17/07
What is unethical...  handydan918 | 05/17/07
Why Should Ethics Matter  windozefreak | 05/17/07
Microsoft Wouldn't Pay to License This Patent  Roger_Jennings | 05/16/07
Interesting  Michael Kelly | 05/16/07
License terms  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/16/07
So, what is your point?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/16/07
Mind if I use this statement  Michael Kelly | 05/16/07
I suggest nothing...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/16/07
How is it a loss to users?  Michael Kelly | 05/16/07
Gee, ask the THOUSANDS that did it  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/16/07
Interoperability? Say what?  Resuna | 05/17/07
And you don't use terms propperly...  Jxn | 05/21/07
Yes, that's the point.  Resuna | 05/17/07
The point is...  Northwolf | 05/18/07
Talk is cheap  D. T. Schmitz | 05/16/07
Message has been deleted.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/16/07
What advantage is that  voska | 05/16/07
Say what?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/16/07
Advatages... yeah uh,huh.  gfolkert | 05/18/07
Report says 90% of murderers claim to be innocent  Ole Man | 06/27/07
Mary Jo, are you afraid to answer?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/16/07
She probably has better things to do with her time .. happy  George Mitchell | 05/16/07
Yeah, like make up more bogus statements  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/16/07
We all notice that you have been really busy lately ...  George Mitchell | 05/16/07
Don't cry because you can't.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/16/07
I am betting you are wrong, he doesn't have anything better to do.  B.O.F.H. | 05/16/07
Message has been deleted.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/16/07
You are one of the first people to ever say that 194cm was little...  B.O.F.H. | 05/16/07
Naw... he's just...  Northwolf | 05/18/07
Not a chance  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/16/07
Backside?  Mary Jo Foley ZDNet Moderator | 05/16/07
Backside? Novell  LilBambi_z | 05/17/07
Smoke and Mirrors  gotitright | 05/17/07
IT and Users...  Northwolf | 05/18/07
Excellent point that illustrates the stupidity of MS's statements ...  George Mitchell | 05/16/07
This was intended as a response to Michael Kellys post ...  George Mitchell | 05/16/07
Well Said!!!  wwwsupport | 05/18/07
Anyone else notice that MS is not fairing well in the press on this?  George Mitchell | 05/16/07
Could not have said it better myself. MS really has no where to go here.  DonnieBoy | 05/16/07
Not really...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/16/07
Nothing to whine over ... I'm happy with the press coverage happy  George Mitchell | 05/16/07
Too many people equating this to SCO when they shouldn't.  ye | 05/16/07
You're correct  Tony Agudo | 05/16/07
May I ask a serious question?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/16/07
Stallman is his own worst enemy.  ye | 05/16/07
Did I say I wanted a declaratory judgement?  Tony Agudo | 05/16/07
Patent War? According to this article...  ye | 05/17/07
No_Axe try listen to Tony Agudo , he makes perfect sense .  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 05/17/07
Tony, you said...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/17/07
No_Azz and his statistical analysis/logic problems.  handydan918 | 05/17/07
No_Ax... learn to spell while you spin  kckn4fun | 05/17/07
There's no lawsuit to nothing to settle at this time.  ye | 05/16/07
There doesn't need to be a lawsuit...  Tony Agudo | 05/16/07
Yes, there needs to be a lawsuit.  ye | 05/17/07
True, its nothing like SCO  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/16/07
"True, its nothing like SCO , YET ."  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 05/17/07
Identical? No. Very similar? Most definitely.  Zogg | 05/17/07
Key difference: SCO filed a lawsuit, MS has not.  ye | 05/17/07
MS may not be LEGALLY required to show evidense, but, public relations wise  DonnieBoy | 05/17/07
To my knowledge MS hasn't threatened...  ye | 05/17/07
And until MS specifies which patents are supposedly being infringed...  Zogg | 05/17/07
So you finally agree that Microsoft is infringing on OSS .  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 05/17/07
Finally agree? I don't recall ever having...  ye | 05/17/07
You must not recall too long  Ole Man | 06/27/07
Yeah this is worse!!!  wizardb@... | 05/17/07
MS is trying the same as SCOX, same result..LOL.(nt)  Northwolf | 05/18/07
Whining?  djchandler | 05/17/07
I notice that Kiss_Ax is doing his best to spin this  critic-at-arms | 05/17/07
Be very afraid.  gfolkert | 05/18/07
Interesting phrase  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/16/07
MS has been 'taking' what they want for so long ...  George Mitchell | 05/16/07
And the other way around, too  John Zern | 05/16/07
Why would anyone want Miorsoft code , it's insecure & unstable .  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 05/17/07
SCO proclaimed that Linux contained a HUGE amount of infringing code ...  George Mitchell | 05/16/07
MS will probably lose  Dr_Zinj | 05/17/07
Such is the nature of dirty socialism  Omch'Ar | 05/16/07
Here is a point that people seem to forget....  lenohere | 05/17/07
theyre only saying that...  linuxoverwindows | 05/17/07
The solution for interoperability is not license fees.  startx.jeff | 05/17/07
MR lenohere  Quebec-french | 05/17/07
But what if MS's patents are worthless?  Zogg | 05/18/07
I didn't know these other sound bites  bcroner | 05/17/07
correction- psuedoquote  bcroner | 05/17/07
I'm betting there is OSS code written into Vista .  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 05/17/07
Innovation  davidr69 | 05/17/07
Go tell it to Ballmer  johnf76@... | 05/17/07
I think most people are missing the point ...  NotBornYesterday | 05/17/07
OR very worst scenario  Quebec-french | 05/17/07
NOOO, that woudl be the very *BEST* scenario  gfolkert | 05/18/07
Makes you wonder . . .  critic-at-arms | 05/17/07
the dog in the manger  reedjjjr | 05/17/07
looks like it really irks M$ that they can't buy open source code like they  wessonjoe | 05/17/07
A Modest Proposal  adakelly2@... | 05/17/07
Patents? Let's talk about Windows and MacOS  3dtodd | 05/17/07
If you going to give credit - it "ain't" Apple  fr0thy2. | 05/17/07
Microsoft code is "open" as well  fr0thy2. | 05/17/07
Obviously Someone Doesn't Know Their History  NetwareGuru | 05/21/07
Take history lessons  Jxn | 05/21/07
THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH COMPUTERS IS SOFTWARE  BALTHOR | 05/17/07
It would be pivital if that had a case  gotitright | 05/17/07
"we'll take a license"-- tell it to Eolas  kckn4fun | 05/17/07
So not relative.  Rocker452 | 05/17/07
Patents are also vulnerable  gotitright | 05/17/07
Patents Inavlid  wwwsupport | 05/18/07
Million Dollar Habits (NOT)  andrej770 | 05/29/07
Microsoft da bully...  uonfocus@... | 05/18/07
Just like Microsoft  neostuma | 05/18/07
Simple fix don't buy anything Microsoft  mikifinaz1@... | 05/18/07
Sounds like a plan but....  andrej770 | 05/29/07
What you pick  Ole Man | 06/05/07
What an ego....  devlin_X | 06/08/07
Results of discussion  Ole Man | 07/06/07

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