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Word of Mouth...
... trumps design and usability. Seems that once the drumming starts in the ABM crowd, there is little to do about the avalanche of "me too-ism."

Vista is a fine operating system done in by third party vendors who refused to update their drivers to work with Vista's security model until the groundswell against Vista had built to a crushing force.

Written on my Vista Ultimate machine that "just works" and always has. Like many other Vista machines that "just work" - much to the consternation of those who would try to keep pounding the nails into Vista's supposed coffin.
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Word of Mouth...  Confused by religion | 10/06/09
Word of mouth.....  Economister | 10/06/09
How so?  ye | 10/06/09
Wireless for one...  lawryll@... | 10/06/09
I've never had a problem with wireless on Vista.  ye | 10/06/09
Wireless does work...  lawryll@... | 10/06/09
We're in agreement here.  ye | 10/06/09
Bit of a stretch there  rhomp2002@... | 10/06/09
No, not a stretch at all.  ye | 10/06/09
Ballmer: Microsoft never escaped their own bullsiht  fr0thy2 | 10/06/09
No, not a stretch at all.  UAC nanny screen | 10/06/09
ye, I do have to comment on vista, and the wireless.  Rick_K | 10/07/09
I've known numerous people with that same problem  UAC nanny screen | 10/07/09
@ye  Axsimulate | 10/08/09
Ye, The Great Microsoft Apologist. (NT)  Intellihence | 10/16/09
Specifics  rarsa | 10/06/09
More of the same FUD. nt  ye | 10/06/09
FUD? Do you know what the acronym means  rarsa | 10/06/09
I agree with Rarsa because...  PlayFair | 10/06/09
I've already installed Windows 7.  ye | 10/06/09
Whatever MS dude! Get over it. Vista FAILED! And Win7 may fail too! (NT)  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 10/06/09
And Apple may fail! and Linux may never take off at all!  shadfurman | 10/06/09
Are you feeling guilty & defensive?  UAC nanny screen | 10/06/09
I have never been proud of another's failure . .  orbofwisdom@... | 10/06/09
DU!  shadfurman | 10/06/09
@ye what about windows 7 security?  mathcreative | 10/07/09
What company do you astroturf for?  Chad_z | 10/06/09
ye's been an apologist for Vista for years  UAC nanny screen | 10/06/09
oh... so your saying I should hate Linux?  shadfurman | 10/06/09
Was I talking to you?  UAC nanny screen | 10/06/09
yes you were...  shadfurman | 10/06/09
No I wasn't  UAC nanny screen | 10/06/09
huh..  shadfurman | 10/06/09
UAC learns your regular tasks....HUH?  bobtran | 10/06/09
That's why my nanny screen bugs the typical home user  UAC nanny screen | 10/07/09
Vista  45north | 10/06/09
well..  sjaak327 | 10/08/09
Balmer may not be genius...  Mr MM | 10/06/09
Firefox & Windows Vista/7  Mihi Nomen Est | 10/06/09
You DO realize...  JT82 | 10/06/09
of course it is  nickdangerthirdi@... | 10/06/09
yes and no  shadfurman | 10/06/09
same engine  pauljr@... | 10/06/09
actually....  nickdangerthirdi@... | 10/06/09
Both Slow  Cosmic1 | 10/06/09
Re: Both Slow  azridgerunner | 10/06/09
And I can really hate a lot cause MS is the devil! (nt)  shadfurman | 10/06/09
So  rhomp2002@... | 10/06/09
2nd paragraph needs a bit of correcting  Michael Kelly | 10/06/09
Are you suggesting Linux?  BroGnorik | 10/06/09
Oh I agree with that  Michael Kelly | 10/06/09
Re: Oh I agree with that  joshandrebekah | 10/06/09
I was getting bored!  An Old Man | 10/06/09
How can they be FAR bigger grabbers...  UAC nanny screen | 10/06/09
Apple and MS have entirely different models  de-void | 10/06/09
So why did they have to...  donw1234 | 10/06/09
Change driver model  bklooste | 11/02/09
So it's always the 3rd party app that's to blame?  UAC nanny screen | 10/06/09
Good point  NetArch. | 10/06/09
Could it be the term you're looking for?  Ole Man | 10/06/09
Hypocrisy amongst Microsofties?  NetArch. | 10/06/09
Now THAT'S not hypocrisy!  Ole Man | 10/06/09
Community drivers  bklooste | 11/02/09
Blame the messenger?  rarsa | 10/06/09
Linux doesn't have, Vista doesn't get  Gerardo.Tasistro | 10/06/09
MS has the problem that they didn't  SamCPP | 10/06/09
And don't forget, Gerardo...  UAC nanny screen | 10/06/09
and as a result, you have to run limited hardware.  shadfurman | 10/06/09
I agree.....  Thack | 10/06/09
People who have never tried Vista  JRude | 10/06/09
My sentiments exactly. (nt)  Economister | 10/06/09
My sentiments  An Old Man | 10/06/09
Well, that's fine, then  Thack | 10/06/09
Sarcasm and "happiness"  Economister | 10/06/09
and you are not being sarcastic?  An Old Man | 10/06/09
That's why they hire shills  UAC nanny screen | 10/06/09
He is pointing out that Vista is for the most part pointless N/T  SamCPP | 10/06/09
..Try Vista??  pauljr@... | 10/06/09
This post has been brought to you by Microsoft  Economister | 10/06/09
Here ya go  mikefarinha | 10/06/09
I wouldn't force a HD to go through that kind of abuse  UAC nanny screen | 10/06/09
Follow the herd off the cliff  Ole Man | 10/07/09
Re: People who have never tried Vista  joshandrebekah | 10/06/09
re: I agree.....  none none | 10/06/09
Sadly Mistaken!  i2fun@... | 10/06/09
sadly mistaken  fjm | 10/06/09
Simple reason: Over-promising  NetArch. | 10/06/09
True, they bit off more than they could chew  otaddy | 10/06/09
Vista just works...  Bodazapha | 10/06/09
Well, not really  ibarskiy@... | 10/06/09
How so?  ye | 10/06/09
I can  GuidingLight | 10/06/09
I've found Vista no more/less reliable than XP.  ye | 10/06/09
Eck!  Metronome49 | 10/06/09
Well, in several ways  ibarskiy@... | 10/06/09
I fail to see how these changes make XP unusable.  ye | 10/06/09
That may be the case...  ibarskiy@... | 10/06/09
@ibarskiy: How often are you doing that per day?  ye | 10/06/09
@ye  ibarskiy@... | 10/06/09
@ibarskiy: I'm not saying the changes don't have benefit.  ye | 10/06/09
@ye  ibarskiy@... | 10/06/09
You have yet to show how Vista is any more productive than XP.  ye | 10/06/09
@ye  ibarskiy@... | 10/06/09
@ibarskiy: Unless one spends a lot of time in the OS.  ye | 10/06/09
@ye  ibarskiy@... | 10/07/09
@ibarskiy: I understand the OS is the backbone. However...  ye | 10/07/09
@ye  ibarskiy@... | 10/08/09
@ibarskiy  Axsimulate | 10/08/09
Really?  Bodazapha | 10/06/09
COMPLETELY WRONG  ibarskiy@... | 10/06/09
exactly my point  Bodazapha | 10/06/09
Your analogy disproves your point  ibarskiy@... | 10/06/09
Vista was crap. Win7 is solution.  JM1981 | 10/06/09
Wrong.  DevGuy_z | 10/06/09
@Devguy_z  Axsimulate | 10/08/09
If it was a mistake, MS should compensate their customers  Chad_z | 10/06/09
MS should compensate.....  fjm | 10/06/09
Tolerance  Dogcatcher | 10/06/09
Me too...  Thack | 10/06/09
re: Well, not really  none none | 10/06/09
At least Windoze trashers have an excuse  UAC nanny screen | 10/06/09
XP is like an dinosaur  andrewjg | 10/06/09
like a dinosaur  Bodazapha | 10/06/09
So where does that put 2000 Pro users?  Ken_z | 10/06/09
Don't upgrade, then!!!  Thack | 10/06/09
Sorry, millions of people don't agree with you. Neither does MS's profit.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 10/06/09
Value Neutral Headline Here  DannyO_0x98 | 10/06/09
Really?  UAC nanny screen | 10/06/09
done in for very good reason  rhomp2002@... | 10/06/09
So let me get this straight...  SamCPP | 10/06/09
Hahahaha! So funny. You are admitting that the ABM crowd is LARGER !  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 10/06/09
Bullcrap  Macintoshtoffy | 10/06/09
"Pent-up demand for what?"  103moke | 10/09/09
Precisely. Guys like me.  Economister | 10/06/09
Error, too early in the morning (nt)  Economister | 10/06/09
Come on Adrian, Ed Bott is already depressed, this will just make it worse.  DonnieBoy | 10/06/09
I'm having issues  Michael Kelly | 10/06/09
Why is that?  GuidingLight | 10/06/09
Yeah, works great, right. You've rebooted how many times this week? 9? (NT)  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 10/06/09
Obviously been in the assylum that long. Windows 9x has long been extinct..  transposeIT | 10/07/09
Uh...  UAC nanny screen | 10/07/09
Maybe you should try to keep up.  sjbinaz | 10/08/09
Reading comprehension problem?  UAC nanny screen | 10/08/09
lol... grin  UAC nanny screen | 10/06/09
I thought ABMers like you are getting really depressed as Win7 is going to.  transposeIT | 10/07/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  algzdnet | 10/06/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  PottHead | 10/06/09
Other than the huge hardware requirements...  bjbrock | 10/06/09
Huge hardware requirements?  ye | 10/06/09
And those requirements are huge...  bjbrock | 10/06/09
Vista runs just fine in 1GB.  ye | 10/06/09
It's a dog with 1GB.  bjbrock | 10/06/09
It runs just fine with 1GB.  ye | 10/06/09
Normal office computing.  bjbrock | 10/06/09
@bjbrock: I don't run AV.  ye | 10/06/09
@ye: My only expectation...  bjbrock | 10/06/09
@bjbrock: That's the same expectation I have.  ye | 10/06/09
I guess it depends on what you hope to  Viva la crank dodo | 10/06/09
If 1GB isn't enough then you need a more capable system.  ye | 10/06/09
Sure  Viva la crank dodo | 10/06/09
I agree that Windows 7 uses less resouces than Vista.  ye | 10/06/09
This is simply your opinion.  bjbrock | 10/06/09
@bjbrock: No, it's not my opinion.  ye | 10/06/09
@bjbrock, what you need to understand is that ...  UAC nanny screen | 10/06/09
I think you are right.  bjbrock | 10/06/09
Now that's just not supported by history.  sjbinaz | 10/08/09
Nothing wrong other than...  NetArch. | 10/06/09
While those are certainly...  bjbrock | 10/06/09
I would have to disagree  nothingness | 10/06/09
Just goes to show how dumb people are.  ye | 10/06/09
Me too  NStalnecker | 10/06/09
The saddest thing is...  ibarskiy@... | 10/06/09
RE: The saddest thing is...  none none | 10/06/09
These security features....  bjbrock | 10/06/09
How are they a burden?  ye | 10/06/09
Extra clicks mean ...  bjbrock | 10/06/09
LOL! Extra clicks...seriously?  ye | 10/06/09
Myself and many others...  bjbrock | 10/06/09
You might call it a burden but that doesn't make it so.  ye | 10/06/09
@ye: All of the things...  bjbrock | 10/06/09
@bjbrock: Of course they take extra time. What I question is:  ye | 10/06/09
Paying customers are not stupid. MS botched it. That's all.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/06/09
They're stupid. Period.  ye | 10/06/09
Ballmer stated the obvious...  UAC nanny screen | 10/06/09
Ballmer is just not working out  HollywoodDog | 10/06/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  Loverock Davidson | 10/06/09
Im glad you recognize this:  Viva la crank dodo | 10/06/09
I don't want to see Microsoft fail...  Get-Smart | 10/06/09
I don't either  Loverock Davidson | 10/06/09
tried it, hated it. Not the bloggers but the product  ismoore | 10/08/09
Ballmer vs Loverock?  zak89 | 10/08/09
Here's the difference  rtk | 10/08/09
Let me fix a quote  nucrash | 10/06/09
It is an incredibly wrong premise  ibarskiy@... | 10/06/09
Windows XP  NStalnecker | 10/06/09
What problems is XP plagued with?  ye | 10/06/09
Mmm, much easier to be a non-admin in Vista.  DevGuy_z | 10/06/09
I agree. But I don't see that as a problem plaguing XP.  ye | 10/06/09
For businesses on XP, I did not see this as  Viva la crank dodo | 10/06/09
Crash prone, security, Windows rot  NStalnecker | 10/06/09
Windows XP is solid, has solid security, and...  ye | 10/06/09
I have something else?  NStalnecker | 10/06/09
Yes, because what you provided didn't show...  ye | 10/06/09
They are imlying  NStalnecker | 10/06/09
@NStalnecker: I am not saying XP didn't have problems when released.  ye | 10/06/09
Except that...  zkiwi | 10/06/09
When you...  ye | 10/06/09
Well...  zkiwi | 10/06/09
@zkiwi: Repeating something ad nauseam...  ye | 10/07/09
Denial of reality  Ole Man | 10/07/09
@ye on the ad nauseam thing..  zkiwi | 10/07/09
Oh, you remember, it wouldn't run on old hardware;  sjbinaz | 10/08/09
Upgrade or Try Elsewhere  cpt_slog@... | 10/06/09
How are you on the "Microsoft round-about"?  ye | 10/06/09
I never understood this either  NStalnecker | 10/06/09
Windows XP  fjm | 10/06/09
Vista works but is too big - Win 7 too costly  misceng | 10/06/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  robertjvan | 10/06/09
The whole "more secure" thing was pure fluff  anthony_hunt | 10/06/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  artmanjr | 10/06/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  artmanjr | 10/06/09
Ballmer is SO wrong!  mikermiker | 10/06/09
I think you nailed it  20kwfence | 10/06/09
Yes, Vista upgrades should be discounted  brianpeterson@... | 10/06/09
You're right - Win 7 should be free  peter_erskine@... | 10/08/09
Don't forget Jim Allchin singing Vista's praises.  HollywoodDog | 10/06/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  paul.edwards@... | 10/06/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  dheady@... | 10/06/09
Hate to say it, but your post is pure BS  wolf_z | 10/06/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  blackfalconsoftware@... | 10/06/09
Efficiency?  Mr MM | 10/06/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  artmanjr | 10/06/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  pheczko | 10/06/09
Vista is the worst OS since W95...or ME?  djzoey | 10/06/09
I think vista was good, but 7 is great  sakosky1@... | 10/06/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  BatOutaL | 10/06/09
During the Vista Era, I switched to Mac  rtrujillo@... | 10/06/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  CanuckEngineer | 10/06/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  AndyPagin | 10/06/09
vista = 7  357ammo | 10/06/09
Vista  Tara O'Hara | 10/06/09
Win Mobile Isn't Helping Either  WarhavenSC | 10/06/09
WinMobile can't handle it. Win7 lite just won't work!  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 10/06/09
Is this meant to be a serious article?  Jayton | 10/06/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  cef1000@... | 10/06/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  FuzzyIce | 10/06/09
Translation again  johnfenjackson@... | 10/06/09
No problem convincing people to switch from XP  LiquidLearner | 10/06/09
XP to Windows 7?  James Quinn | 10/06/09
Reputation's probably not as damaged as some would believe  Anita Y. Mathis | 10/06/09
Wasn't that the assumption of Vista's release?  James Quinn | 10/06/09
Still no warranty  emenau | 10/06/09
You are forgetting.  sjbinaz | 10/08/09
happy  emenau | 10/14/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  robbackus | 10/06/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  michael@... | 10/06/09
Adrian, a bit about semantics  CrashPad | 10/06/09
One of the biggest farces EVER.  PlayFair | 10/06/09
Three examples that did not work at realease of Vista  CrashPad | 10/07/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  peggy_downing | 10/06/09
AND MS has done it yet again......  carlsf@... | 10/06/09
Prefer XP still  Cosmic1 | 10/06/09
time to move on.  TDMPro2k | 10/06/09
XP Holdouts? Hell, There's a $#*tLoad of MS 2K Holdouts!  Rumpled_Foreskin | 10/06/09
Microsoft's Reputation Was Damaged  Cardhu | 10/06/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  thomasak001 | 10/06/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  Goldcds | 10/06/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  Goldcds | 10/06/09
I bought Vista... silly (expensive) mistake  Cosmic1 | 10/06/09
Vista has been fine, but I wouldn't upgrade to any OS  ted@... | 10/06/09
Not every XP user is a Vista hater  Telexer | 10/06/09
Vista was fine  Lerianis10 | 10/06/09
Go back a few years.  Lester Young | 10/06/09
They get that  NStalnecker | 10/07/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  Oldstone54 | 10/06/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  pyropakjim@... | 10/07/09
And do they deserve to recover,  HypnoToad72 | 10/07/09
The Vista hype - prepare to feel nauseous  whisperycat | 10/07/09
Ballmer is the reason Vista was a failure  boed | 10/07/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  ttremeth | 10/07/09
.. but MS will turn it into profit...  ismoore | 10/08/09
Since Microsoft is crying like a baby, let's all do a "pity purchase" of  HypnoToad72 | 10/08/09
I don't know about that.  NeoZon@... | 10/08/09
Couldn't Happen to a NICER Chair-Tossing Bully!  drprod@... | 10/08/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  anon58 | 10/10/09
Vista to Win7 same as Windows ME to XP?  econobiker | 10/12/09
Vendors are the problem  bkn2000 | 10/13/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  spamused | 10/14/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  loupgarous | 10/14/09
Microsoft never recovered from Ballmer?  Silex | 10/22/09
RE: Ballmer: Microsoft never recovered from Vista blow  henx | 10/22/09

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