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Classic defensive strategy
If you can't defend your POV, pound the table! happy

Seriously, this makes the FSF look desperate. It might also open them up for libel charges (Of course MS has to weigh the martyr factor). On second thought, that might give the FSF too much credit...

The fact they felt it necessary to send Greenpeace style propaganda letter is very telling.
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Classic defensive strategy  wolf_z | 08/26/09
Disagree, disagree and disagree  Economister | 08/26/09
I thought the exact same thing about MS's "Get the Facts" campaign (NT)  Zogg | 08/26/09
Its more comedy than anything  Loverock Davidson | 08/26/09
Yeah its comedy alright  Jarige | 08/27/09
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing!  markgently | 08/28/09
Linux website  mikroland | 08/28/09
Google runs Linux  Jarige | 08/31/09
Yea... takes a lot of power to run a plain white webpage.  ShadowGIATL | 08/31/09
wrong! Foss is going for the jugular!  Linux Geek | 08/26/09
Hope springs eternal...  wolf_z | 08/26/09
In the words of that senator from MS  gnesterenko | 08/27/09
Wrong and wrong  donniebnyc@... | 08/28/09
And what planet is he from?  ShadowGIATL | 08/31/09
Indeed.  Sleeper Service | 08/27/09
RE: FSF launches  Jaril | 08/26/09
Not a hard and fast rule  Economister | 08/26/09
It's not just about software costs  Joe_Raby | 08/26/09
I did say TOTAL cost (nt)  Economister | 08/26/09
OpenSource is not an alarm system at your front door  Jarige | 08/27/09
RE: RE: FSF launches  Jarige | 08/27/09
RE: FSF launches  Loverock Davidson | 08/26/09
If you were to leave off the last 1.5 paragraphs...  Viva la crank dodo | 08/26/09
Well..  LiquidLearner | 08/26/09
Well said...  Viva la crank dodo | 08/27/09
Not right either...  martian@... | 09/01/09
Lies  Jarige | 08/27/09
finally!  crabbypup | 08/29/09
Holly ****..  keoz | 08/29/09
Exagerated  Jarige | 08/30/09
Sigh....  ShadowGIATL | 08/31/09
I don't force opinions  Jarige | 09/02/09
Yeah...  keoz | 08/31/09
You'll only know what freedom is until you tasted it  Jarige | 09/02/09
Yea that'll sway me....  JoeMama_z | 08/26/09
RE: FSF launches  Gill Bates | 08/26/09
People tend to chose what they KNOW  Jarige | 08/27/09
RE: FSF launches  drf999 | 08/26/09
Haha  mtgarden | 08/26/09
What upgrade train?  ye | 08/26/09
1  NStalnecker | 08/26/09
Technically...  Michael Kelly | 08/26/09
Which makes the "many eyes" argument all the more worthless.  ye | 08/26/09
They had the source of the compiler too  Michael Kelly | 08/26/09
Even worse.  ye | 08/26/09
How can "more eyes" possibly hurt?  Zogg | 08/26/09
Because it gives you a false sense of security  de-void | 08/26/09
You're looking at this in completely the wrong way.  Zogg | 08/26/09
umm  gnesterenko | 08/27/09
Linux/Open Source *is* professional quality work.  Zogg | 08/27/09
Take a look at  Jarige | 08/30/09
I didn't say is hurts anything. I said it's a "worthless" argument.  ye | 08/26/09
So you're saying that more eyes have no "worth"?  Zogg | 08/26/09
I'm saying it's demonstrated to be no better than other methods.  ye | 08/26/09
Your refusal to understand proves nothing.  Zogg | 08/27/09
@Zogg  gnesterenko | 08/27/09
ye: its miles better than "other methods"  deaf_e_kate | 08/27/09
More eyes? Exactly how many?  Patanjali | 08/27/09
The more the merrier, of course.  Zogg | 08/27/09
here's the thing  gnesterenko | 08/27/09
You did not "exaggerate", you "invented"!  Zogg | 08/27/09
There is no upgrade train  Lerianis10 | 08/26/09
The usual nonsense.  Zogg | 08/26/09
The "Upgrade Train" Explained.  mikefarinha | 08/26/09
Not thought out...  crazydanr@... | 08/26/09
Collusion: Antitrust (nt)  Economister | 08/26/09
Is there ANY proof of this within the last 10 years?  Qbt | 08/26/09
Could be if the Feds start digging  Economister | 08/26/09
IOW: No, there is not. nt  ye | 08/26/09
And you know that how?  Economister | 08/26/09
Because none has been provided to support the allegation.  ye | 08/26/09
Because MS has been operating under the watchful gaze of the DOJ  de-void | 08/26/09
Burdon of proof is on the one making the claim  Qbt | 08/26/09
I do not have to prove anything  Economister | 08/26/09
the DOJ in MS's case is impotent  deaf_e_kate | 08/27/09
And you think...  crazydanr@... | 08/26/09
To FSF: Big fat Fail  Qbt | 08/26/09
"DRM restricts your freedoms"  Qbt | 08/26/09
You did fail to "get it..."  olePigeon | 08/26/09
Nicely said...  RocketEater | 08/26/09
Well, you just proved my point  Qbt | 08/26/09
It isn't..... thus far  Lerianis10 | 08/26/09
So the whole argument relies on something that "might" happen?  Qbt | 08/26/09
Wrong  Qbt | 08/26/09
Exactly!  ericesque | 08/26/09
Well......  Economister | 08/26/09
If you decided it is ok to steal...  Qbt | 08/26/09
The master plan  Economister | 08/26/09
No-one claims DRM is unbreakable  Qbt | 08/26/09
DRM does prevent you from playing pirated content ...  de-void | 08/26/09
Perhaps he should have said:  ye | 08/26/09
The thin edge of the wedge (nt)  Economister | 08/26/09
It is you who choses to ignore...  ibarskiy@... | 08/26/09
Ridiculously, mindlessly stupid  Economister | 08/26/09
Wrong  Qbt | 08/26/09
Utterly WRONG!  de-void | 08/26/09
This is getting tiresome  Economister | 08/26/09
Once again, it is you who is devoid of rational thought...  ibarskiy@... | 08/27/09
funny, DRM worked out in both your examples...  ericesque | 08/26/09
Correction on the Zune ...  de-void | 08/26/09
Agree in principle, but Valve is a bad example . . .  CobraA1 | 08/26/09
That's the main reason why SMART game developers  Lerianis10 | 08/26/09
The audience for this letter...  A.Sinic | 08/26/09
You missed one....  storm14k | 08/26/09
My hat off to you for that last short paragraph (nt)  Economister | 08/26/09
Maybe if it was true [nt]  Qbt | 08/26/09
You are not as well informed as you believe.  djchandler | 08/26/09
Have to agree with the DRM thing  Lerianis10 | 08/26/09
LOL, that's the best you can come up with?  Qbt | 08/26/09
Is that REALLY necessary QBT?  mgp3 | 08/26/09
We're talking about DRM. That's built into Windows.  djchandler | 08/26/09
To: djchandler  Qbt | 08/26/09
@Qbt: Where did I say artists/creators have no rights?  djchandler | 08/26/09
Sorry, doesn't makes sense  Qbt | 08/26/09
So...  djchandler | 08/26/09
Wow, that's some screwed up logic [nt]  Qbt | 08/26/09
What axe are you grinding?  djchandler | 08/26/09
Why?  Qbt | 08/26/09
Oh no...the one that hits home....  storm14k | 08/26/09
"Once I have purchased the media its MINE."  A.Sinic | 08/26/09
Wow....it must be lovely in MS land....  storm14k | 08/26/09
Wrong again. DRM adds rights, doesn't take anything away  Qbt | 08/26/09
No... not your music, just your books.  James T. Kirk | 08/26/09
You answered your own question.  djchandler | 08/26/09
There is no lock in  Qbt | 08/26/09
Perhaps the Linux community should build DRM infrastructure into Linux?  de-void | 08/26/09
Only a Microbrain would come up with this lol....  storm14k | 08/26/09
Not a double standard  ITLeader | 08/27/09
Answer this then...  30otnix | 08/26/09
The answer is No  Qbt | 08/26/09
@Qbt: Are you profiting in any way from DRM ?  djchandler | 08/26/09
LOL, too funny!  Qbt | 08/26/09
So I must be a thief!  djchandler | 08/26/09
Has anybody else....  Joe_Raby | 08/26/09
FSF???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/26/09
the future is defined by FSF  Linux Geek | 08/26/09
Right on, comrade!  de-void | 08/26/09
Damn!  mgp3 | 08/26/09
Only for morons.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/26/09
Bwaaaa ha ha!  mgp3 | 08/26/09
People have been saying that for decades.  ShadowGIATL | 08/26/09
Keep dreaming  NStalnecker | 08/26/09
Eventually, yes, all organisations die in the end.  Jarige | 08/27/09
RE: FSF launches  ICUR12 | 08/26/09
How many millions of lines of code is Linux now?  A.Sinic | 08/26/09
What happens if Microsoft ends a licensing contract?  HypnoToad72 | 08/26/09
Photoshop  Henry Miller | 08/26/09
So...  NStalnecker | 08/26/09
Ya gotta love the Freetards!  matthew_maurice | 08/26/09
Outlook?  30otnix | 08/26/09
Outlook?  cabdriverjim | 08/26/09
What they really mean is...  storm14k | 08/26/09
RE: FSF launches  Charleswhenn | 08/26/09
Now swap those connections...  Marc Wagner | 08/26/09
********!  Lerianis10 | 08/26/09
My thoughts . . .  CobraA1 | 08/26/09
No, they didn't 'have to do it'  Lerianis10 | 08/26/09
More useless arguments  Comnenus | 08/26/09
RE: FSF launches  Badgered | 08/26/09
@ye: Wow, this is intellectually challenging  Economister | 08/26/09
should have launch it years ago  Linux Geek | 08/26/09
Not likely  NStalnecker | 08/26/09
I wonder how many....  Erroneous | 08/26/09
Most of them, I'm sure.  CobraA1 | 08/26/09
What would you expect from a bad spam filter...  Marc Wagner | 08/26/09
I wonder......  Economister | 08/26/09
DRM  ungood++ | 08/26/09
Because...  Qbt | 08/26/09
But not smart enough to realize.....  Economister | 08/26/09
LOL  Qbt | 08/26/09
Hw do you feel about...  A.Sinic | 08/26/09
Considering your posts...  ShadowGIATL | 08/26/09
It's a sign of desperation...  rapson | 08/27/09
Open Source Software  homeblend | 08/26/09
Windows 7 Envy  Vokar | 08/26/09
Well not exactly everyone  Jarige | 08/27/09
Windows 7 is great, compared to other Widowses  Jarige | 08/30/09
Who cares about the FSF?  Solid Jedi Knight | 08/26/09
And such  Jarige | 08/27/09
Yup FS is so good they can't give it away  tonymcs@... | 08/26/09
What a Joke  jpr75_z | 08/26/09
re: What a Joke  n0neXn0ne | 08/27/09
RE: FSF launches  darms21 | 08/26/09
RE: Joke  ozguy | 08/27/09
RE: FSF launches  2+2=5 | 08/27/09
mising the point  homeblend | 08/27/09
GIMP != Photoshop  rbethell | 08/27/09
Whinners, not winners  david.cameron@... | 08/27/09
It's Not Just "Us Against Them"  hhiles@... | 08/27/09
RE: FSF launches  markgently | 08/28/09
RE: FSF launches  jacksonnov06 | 08/28/09
Mr. PC Doctor, how do YOU plan to heal this cancer?  emenau | 08/28/09
Virtualize it...  keoz | 08/28/09
What?  ShadowGIATL | 09/01/09
I was making fun of...  keoz | 09/01/09
As I said... meant no offense.  ShadowGIATL | 09/01/09
Ok  keoz | 09/01/09
RE: FSF launches  tarscrap | 08/31/09
FSF, HOW desperate !!!  Aussie_Troll | 09/04/09
RE: FSF launches  joliet_john | 09/26/09

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