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These are all independent companies. Without proof that there is some collaboration between them that results in a monopoly, can their independent actions, even if all following the same playbook, really be considered establishing, even maintaining, a monopoly?
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And who picks up the tab?  GuidingLight | 07/31/09
That's not the point. Do you agree that Consumers should have the choice?  Dietrich T. Schmitz | 07/31/09
As long as MS isn't forcing OEMs to exclusively install Windows, then no  MissingMatter | 07/31/09
Canonical Announces Desktop Support 7/31/2009  Dietrich T. Schmitz | 07/31/09
And?  MissingMatter | 07/31/09
A user can buy a PC with no O/S and walk out of the store  Dietrich T. Schmitz | 07/31/09
That only works for half the argument  MissingMatter | 07/31/09
Argumentative. Adrian's article is concise and to the point.  Dietrich T. Schmitz | 07/31/09
@Dietrich : So, would you be happy with ...  de-void | 07/31/09
Don't try to confuse the issue with convoluted logic. Consumer Choice.  Dietrich T. Schmitz | 07/31/09
@Dietrich: No, this isn't convoluted logic  de-void | 07/31/09
Uhh...last time I checked I had to pay Dell for Windows support.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 08/12/09
So let me get this straight  wolf_z | 07/31/09
Ubuntu?  bigpicture | 08/29/09
Wow dude  NStalnecker | 08/01/09
How do you figure? Break it down.  Dietrich T. Schmitz | 08/01/09
Easy  NStalnecker | 08/02/09
Where do you get free support from MS?  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 08/12/09
There is no "free market" in PC's  Chad_z | 08/29/09
Is it not the manufacturer that should decide  GuidingLight | 07/31/09
Nonsense. There is little burden placed on the OEM beyond  Dietrich T. Schmitz | 07/31/09
Without an OS is fraught with it's own issues:  GuidingLight | 07/31/09
BTW: No. (NT)  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 08/12/09
But you're forgetting the no OS option  NCWeber | 08/03/09
It's Russia - the land of hackers and pirates...  douglas_stein@... | 08/05/09
Bullocks! If you don't want OSX don't buy an Apple.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 08/12/09
we do have choice  clarnT | 07/31/09
Except...  NCWeber | 08/03/09
So why be forced to PAY for an OS (Windows) when you are going to ditch it?  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 08/12/09
You do have a choice...  GetReal-mac.com | 08/01/09
not just installation, but support  coffeeshark | 07/31/09
Have you heard of billable/hourly?  Dietrich T. Schmitz | 07/31/09
Not really. The user can return the unit or search the net and fix it.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 08/12/09
Simple..  a.barry@... | 07/31/09
And who supports your botique PC?  MissingMatter | 07/31/09
I've tried Dell's support . . .  sporkfighter | 08/04/09
Who Picks Up the Tab  bigpicture | 08/29/09
Lack of Superstructure  dunraven | 07/31/09
Consumer Issue. Congress can enact same legislation.  Dietrich T. Schmitz | 07/31/09
Um, no the FTC can't enact legislation at all  wolf_z | 07/31/09
I stand corrected on the FTC issue and corrected above.  Dietrich T. Schmitz | 07/31/09
Why not?  stano360 | 07/31/09
No. Let's call it 'Let the OEM's sell their hardware' act.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 08/12/09
Microsoft is the monopoly. As proven on 3 continents. (NT)  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 08/12/09
About time ...  johnfenjackson@... | 07/31/09
Well over due {nt}  n0neXn0ne | 07/31/09
Ok, but....  NStalnecker | 07/31/09
the rigt remedy is...  Linux Geek | 07/31/09
Troubleshooting hardware  bfilipiak@... | 07/31/09
But then you run into...  ShadowGIATL | 08/01/09
What is bloat? 1 MB? 10 MB? 100 MB? 1 GB?  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 08/12/09
RE: The "rigt" remedy.  BernieLyons | 08/02/09
Tad extreme there...  ShadowGIATL | 08/03/09
As long as.....  Economister | 07/31/09
irony of the iron curtain protecting freedom better than the US?  shryko | 07/31/09
Sorry to flame you  stano360 | 07/31/09
It's all about marginal costs, not Microsoft  MissingMatter | 07/31/09
RE: While the EC wastes time with IE, Russia tackles bigger issues  Loverock Davidson | 07/31/09
Hats off to Adrian Kingsley-Hughes  Dietrich T. Schmitz | 07/31/09
Even if Linux were MORE expensive  Michael Kelly | 07/31/09
What?!!!!! (kidding) wink  Dietrich T. Schmitz | 07/31/09
Why doesn't the US do this?  teddybairs1 | 07/31/09
Big Brother wants you to run...  bjbrock | 07/31/09
Microsoft denies handing law enforcement 'backdoor' keys  Ole Man | 08/01/09
just what we need more government (nt)  thekman58 | 07/31/09
RE:Why doesn't the US do this?  BernieLyons | 08/02/09
"...would cost about the same as Linux-based systems." Oh Crap  USTechHead | 07/31/09
I want to choose OSX...can Russia please make Apple open that can of worm  Yax_to_the_Max | 07/31/09
You know you bring up a good observation -  USTechHead | 07/31/09
I am not an Apple user or supporter but...  JasonJD48 | 08/04/09
RE: While the EC wastes time with IE, Russia tackles bigger issues  rdupuy11 | 07/31/09
If it was my company, leave me alone!  Zantis | 07/31/09
RE: While the EC wastes time with IE, Russia tackles bigger issues  superbestgr | 07/31/09
New title.... Whilst the US bent over for MS, the EU  deaf_e_kate | 07/31/09
Why would you cheer the punishment of MS?  stano360 | 07/31/09
This is no more PUNISHMENT than the American consumer gets.  kd5auq | 07/31/09
do some research on MS's history  deaf_e_kate | 08/02/09
Terrible how they gave a browser away for free  JasonJD48 | 08/04/09
Unfortunately the EU motives are true  JasonJD48 | 08/04/09
Hey, 20 watt...  James T. Kirk | 07/31/09
Hey, 10 watt...  deaf_e_kate | 08/02/09
For some people, I suppose everything revolves around MS.  ShadowGIATL | 08/03/09
You're confused.  ShadowGIATL | 08/03/09
Your / You're confused  dszimmer | 08/04/09
Well at least you're a polite spell nazi...  ShadowGIATL | 08/04/09
RE: While the EC wastes time with IE, Russia tackles bigger issues  TomMariner | 07/31/09
What % of the consumers really want this?  thekman58 | 07/31/09
Are you kidding?  James T. Kirk | 07/31/09
RE: What about offering OpenOffice as an option?  mistermachine | 07/31/09
There are reasons.  ShadowGIATL | 08/03/09
I personally never cared for OEM installed software  JasonJD48 | 08/04/09
Same here...  ShadowGIATL | 08/04/09
Russia tackles money problem.  pauliusp | 07/31/09
RE: While the EC wastes time with IE, Russia tackles bigger issues  enawn | 07/31/09
OSX and Dual Boot  biomedr | 08/01/09
This is really what it's always been about  Timpraetor | 08/01/09
The only reason  crazydanr@... | 08/01/09
RE: While the EC wastes time with IE, Russia tackles bigger issues  ShadowGIATL | 08/01/09
Step back and look.  dszimmer | 08/02/09
Consumer get what they want, and they want Windows or OS X  IE8 | 08/02/09
RE:Consumer get what they want, and they want Windows or OS X  BernieLyons | 08/02/09
The problem is...  JasonJD48 | 08/04/09
RE: While the EC wastes time with IE, Russia tackles bigger issues  PlayFair | 08/02/09
I'm interested in getting a HP Mini 5101  roaming | 08/02/09
RE: While the EC wastes time with IE, Russia tackles bigger issues  Vahidm | 08/03/09
Let's just check out the Russian Dell site...  dszimmer | 08/04/09
Well... I was actually kinda on board with them on this one...  ShadowGIATL | 08/04/09
RE: While the EC wastes time with IE, Russia tackles bigger issues  bigpicture | 08/05/09
Preinstalled Windows  ct2193@... | 09/08/09

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