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You're very forgiving
If they can remove the feature, what stops them from putting it back?

What will stop them from violating the terms and conditions? Companies have done it before and will continue to do it.
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You're very forgiving  rpmyers1 | 07/18/09
a "neuter" for Kindle, perhaps?  jedikitty@... | 07/21/09
Microsoft is the KING of the realm of illegal usage. Go Apple!  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 07/22/09
This matters why. . .  cdmsr | 07/24/09
I hate to disagree with you  athynz | 07/24/09
DRM should be illegal under "First Sale"  BillDem | 08/06/09
No Kindles for us...  RicD_ | 07/18/09
No Kindles here, either  dunmerbob | 07/19/09
Amen! No Kindles (or books) here either!  BillDem | 08/06/09
Couldn't agree more  shawkins | 07/20/09
I Want My Illegal Downloads!  Stoshie | 07/20/09
Wrong!!!  mrlinux | 07/20/09
Right, er... Wrong = Right  Graham Ellison | 07/20/09
You are woefully ignorant of the law  sfriedrich | 07/20/09
You are correct, but off-base.  SteveRMann | 07/20/09
Actually  sfriedrich | 07/20/09
The Law  GeniusWorking | 07/20/09
Not to mention the fact that DRM violates First Sale  BillDem | 08/06/09
IP Law  Answerfactory | 07/20/09
"Made up" or not is irrelevant.  Captiosus | 07/20/09
who is woefully ignorant?  jakon | 07/22/09
"Possession is Nine-Tenths of the Law"  Captiosus | 07/20/09
Unfortunately  ElecNinja | 07/21/09
Still wrong analogy  xXSpeedzXx | 07/24/09
Amazon did their customers a FAVOR  sfriedrich | 07/20/09
FBI?  JustinTyme56 | 07/20/09
You must have missed all the news stories about the FBI going to foreign co  sfriedrich | 07/20/09
Ignorant?  JustinTyme56 | 07/20/09
is this some kind of joke performance art?  jakon | 07/22/09
No Kindles for me........  Tennisyoda@... | 07/20/09
This is very funny.  jakon | 07/22/09
I concur.  jedikitty@... | 07/21/09
Way off base here...  Dave32265 | 07/20/09
You don't know what you're talking about  sfriedrich | 07/20/09
No, you are clueless  Answerfactory | 07/20/09
voice of experience?  jedikitty@... | 07/21/09
Invasion of Privacy?  kguzzi@... | 07/20/09
Congrats  sfriedrich | 07/20/09
do stop, please!  jedikitty@... | 07/21/09
hilarious. [nm]  jakon | 07/22/09
You don't OWN the Kindle software.  Captiosus | 07/20/09
Re; Amazon has the right to track what is being played . . .  hkommedal | 07/21/09
I have neither the time or resouses to know  mjolnar@... | 07/20/09
"Happy Birthday to You" *IS* copyrighted!  RufusVS | 07/20/09
Copyrights DO expire  sfriedrich | 07/20/09
I purchased a book about...  jwlynn64@... | 07/20/09
OK  sfriedrich | 07/20/09
MAYBE . . . .  JLHenry | 07/20/09
' hope Americans will stop being ignorant'  BitBanger_USA | 07/20/09
You sir, are a moron.  jakon | 07/22/09
What is expiring here  athynz | 07/20/09
THANK YOU!!!  jedikitty@... | 07/21/09
Actually they don't the way things are now  voska1 | 07/21/09
If you buy a car and it turns out it was stolen  sfriedrich | 07/20/09
Illegal downloads  Budster1 | 07/20/09
Illegal is illegal, whether you are aware of that or not  kguzzi@... | 07/20/09
What Amazon SHOULD have done . . .  JLHenry | 07/20/09
I can't argue against your point, but  sfriedrich | 07/20/09
If that were the case . . .  JLHenry | 07/20/09
Re; it was a bad move on their part. Indeed it was !  hkommedal | 07/21/09
Actually no.  jakon | 07/22/09
WRONG!  voska1 | 07/20/09
DRM ..not for me.  psion@... | 07/20/09
Re; should have heard the squawk when audio cassettes . .  hkommedal | 07/21/09
This is not JUST a legal issue...  LANShark524 | 07/20/09
What is your point?  sfriedrich | 07/20/09
you're giving us all a headache  jedikitty@... | 07/21/09
Let's look at this from a logical standpoint  robwriter | 07/21/09
So because I don't want a kindle  athynz | 07/21/09
Not buying Kindle = Illegal downloads?! Seriously?!?  BillDem | 08/06/09
Good move!  Answerfactory | 07/20/09
I'm with you. Will wait until they change policy. EOM  rp518 | 08/06/09
(whack!) Thank you, sir, may I please have another?  mgp3 | 07/18/09
Good point, but...  rahbm | 07/21/09
Kindles on message - CHANGE  blee95 | 07/18/09
Wow! Good job...  mgp3 | 07/18/09
Property rights not political?  blee95 | 07/18/09
Not quite the way you've described them...  mgp3 | 07/18/09
However property is property...  blee95 | 07/18/09
Closest to big business?  mjolnar@... | 07/20/09
Don't really own - just custodians  Patanjali | 07/19/09
Personal property...  JCitizen | 07/19/09
Right-wing nonsense  dunmerbob | 07/19/09
"Property rights"  bhartman36 | 07/19/09
Nope sir  s_souche | 07/20/09
"or to lend it to someone"  Pembo | 07/20/09
Law 101  voska1 | 07/20/09
Lending  bhartman36 | 07/20/09
You are ignorant of fair use  sfriedrich | 07/20/09
Not how licenses work  voska1 | 07/20/09
Reading vs. Selling  bhartman36 | 07/20/09
Re; . . is DRM. Legally you can can sell it.  hkommedal | 07/21/09
DRM is not evil -- it's just the initial testbed technology.  bhartman36 | 07/21/09
Stolen Nations  Graham Ellison | 07/20/09
ROFL  tubr0 | 07/20/09
Until law enforcement shows up  sfriedrich | 07/20/09
Yes  kguzzi@... | 07/20/09
Nonsense - maybe...  JCitizen | 07/20/09
OK then, hand over that kidney!  Zogg | 07/20/09
BUSH needs to put down the COKE and love People instead of Churches!  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 07/22/09
Go cry into George W Bushes breast!  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 07/22/09
ANY digital security system is DRM  Patanjali | 07/19/09
RE: ANY digital security system is DRM  RedVeg | 07/20/09
Of course Amazon has the right to do this  Johnny Vegas | 07/19/09
Analogies . . .  CobraA1 | 07/19/09
It was the inevitable decision by Amazon, even if it was unfortunate.  bhartman36 | 07/19/09
Small acorn, mighty oak  JJ Brannon | 07/20/09
Intellectual Property of students  bhartman36 | 07/20/09
Saved in some form  JJ Brannon | 07/20/09
Re: It was the inevitable decision by Amazon  rkinne01 | 07/20/09
I agree with a lot of what you're saying  bhartman36 | 07/20/09
Well said  kguzzi@... | 07/20/09
Don't forget the lowly consumer  oncall | 07/20/09
I don't entirely dismiss that argument, either.  bhartman36 | 07/20/09
Re; Don't forget the lowly consumer.  hkommedal | 07/21/09
@bhartman36  oncall | 07/21/09
@hkonmedal - Re: The Paper Equivalent  bhartman36 | 07/21/09
@oncall: I partially agree, but...  bhartman36 | 07/21/09
I will partly agree also  oncall | 07/21/09
@oncall: I think I better understand your objection now. Thanks! happy  bhartman36 | 07/21/09
Thank you! Finally someone gets this!  masonwheeler | 07/20/09
Depends on where you live  infoz | 07/20/09
Copyright Enforcement  bhartman36 | 07/20/09
And what would Amazon have done if . .  hkommedal | 07/21/09
I replied to you on this above, but I'll give you the short version.  bhartman36 | 07/21/09
In 1984  mjolnar@... | 07/20/09
Can't you still own a gun  voska1 | 07/20/09
Bad analogy  kguzzi@... | 07/20/09
Agreed. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.  CobraA1 | 07/19/09
GWBush needs to pass away! (NT)  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 07/22/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  s_souche | 07/20/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  Capt_Sparky | 07/20/09
The book is software, under this model...  bhartman36 | 07/20/09
It also hurts their bottom line...  mrlinux | 07/20/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  condelirios | 07/20/09
Yes, the one solid anchor we have on this slippery slope  Ole Man | 07/20/09
RE: ...one solid anchor...  bfilipiak@... | 07/20/09
Re; Time for another power . .  hkommedal | 07/21/09
Thank You!!  Pembo | 07/20/09
Re; EVEN bad for big business in the long run.  hkommedal | 07/21/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  super_J | 07/20/09
Re; . . it gives complete control to the vendor.  hkommedal | 07/21/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  the_fiddler_on_the_roof | 07/20/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  bhartman36 | 07/20/09
possession is the key  s_souche | 07/20/09
The Right to Read  bhartman36 | 07/20/09
that is duscussable  s_souche | 07/20/09
Usage  bhartman36 | 07/20/09
Re; you are not trespassing his monopole.  hkommedal | 07/21/09
my point exactly  s_souche | 07/21/09
"No other rights are granted."  bhartman36 | 07/21/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  sorahl@... | 07/20/09
It isn't idiotic....What is though...  condelirios | 07/20/09
Re; The police would come and take it away . . .  hkommedal | 07/21/09
Continually glossed over...  oncall | 07/21/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  viweed@... | 07/20/09
Would I buy a DRM infected book ?  hkommedal | 07/21/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  viweed@... | 07/20/09
Re; You don't know what you will be missing.  hkommedal | 07/21/09
None of us own the books  sthayes | 07/20/09
There are ways  s_souche | 07/20/09
Re; (and not us!) owns the rights to those books . .  hkommedal | 07/21/09
Author doesn't understand copyrights  mbratch | 07/20/09
Would CBS Corporation be fine with people stealing their content?  eljay001 | 07/20/09
Stealing  Tom6 | 07/20/09
The consept of stealing involves . .  hkommedal | 07/21/09
It is still like home invation.  mjolnar@... | 07/20/09
Re; Big Brother is watching.  hkommedal | 07/21/09
Wrong again. Copy rights are about one thing only.  hkommedal | 07/21/09
Ridiculous  Speednet | 07/20/09
Re: Ridiculous  pdickey43@... | 07/20/09
Good in theory, but not in the real world  Speednet | 07/20/09
Get the facts before you make silly claims.  masonwheeler | 07/20/09
Your dismissive, inane comments are not helpful  Speednet | 07/20/09
He dismissed your comments because they aren't backed up by facts  sfriedrich | 07/20/09
Just another anti-DRM drone  Speednet | 07/25/09
Re; No author would publish their works WITHOUT DRM.  hkommedal | 07/21/09
No Kindle for Me  Grolan | 07/20/09
Amazon Broke Faith With Its Customers  Dr_Zinj | 07/20/09
1984 is also public domain in RUSSIA!!!!  gertruded | 07/20/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  Biotechguy | 07/20/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  super_J | 07/20/09
Re; corporations that violate personal liberty all the time . .  hkommedal | 07/21/09
DRM is irritating  BitSmacker | 07/20/09
I was thinking of getting a Kindle Too  s_carter2000@... | 07/20/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  agohige | 07/20/09
It's not the DRM that is the issue here so much as the remote delete.  richard233 | 07/20/09
Read the agreement  infoz | 07/20/09
What Amazon SHOULD have done about an illegal copy of a book  mroberts@... | 07/20/09
MiniTruth  Falchion14 | 07/20/09
Great post!  super_J | 07/20/09
MiniTruth  Dick S | 07/20/09
WRONG Ministry!  bfilipiak@... | 07/20/09
You obviously haven't read '1984' (nt)  JLHenry | 07/20/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  HouseOfZen | 07/20/09
Actaully I quit buying any software with DRM...  mrlinux | 07/20/09
Never had a problem with DRM and Windows...Apple however...  USTechHead | 07/20/09
I've had issues Windows DRM  voska1 | 07/20/09
And neither did the Kindel owners...  mrlinux | 07/20/09
Funny. I have had the exact opposite. Windows CALLS home!  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 07/22/09
linux will not do for all ... eg. Dreamweaver works like krap under wine  hifi@... | 07/20/09
Never said Linux was the choice for everyone....  mrlinux | 07/20/09
No DRM, No Proprietary Formats . . . .  sporkfighter | 07/20/09
why continue to buy Microsoft's software  gertruded | 07/20/09
Microsoft is PUCK!  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 07/22/09
I am Boycotting Amazon now  7tisix | 07/20/09
yeah ... it's like getting sick to make your mother feel sorry  hifi@... | 07/20/09
Because of WHAT?  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 07/22/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  partman1969@... | 07/20/09
A bunch of whining ...  dkawalec | 07/20/09
people do not read fine print ... if they did  hifi@... | 07/20/09
RE: A bunch of whining  RedVeg | 07/20/09
Re; '...whining...'  dca@... | 07/20/09
You don't need root or SU to delete a file [nt]  dkawalec | 07/20/09
Right . . .  sporkfighter | 07/20/09
Apple uses industry standards  rahbm | 07/21/09
Re; you do not buy the book. Wrong again, partially that is.  hkommedal | 07/21/09
What you license is the right to read the books (nt)  dkawalec | 07/21/09
The refund is NOT the point  athynz | 07/21/09
You don't get it  dkawalec | 07/21/09
Actually I hit the nail on the head with my analogy  athynz | 07/23/09
No, because if you truly understood the things you claim to understand ...  dkawalec | 07/24/09
Actually dude  athynz | 07/24/09
Time for Open Source  flapinux | 07/20/09
ironic ...  super_J | 07/20/09
zdnet saved me money - no Kindle for me  hifi@... | 07/20/09
Amazon should be sued for theft! get that TOS fixed. (nt)  wessonjoe | 07/20/09
They can't steal what you don't legally own  sfriedrich | 07/20/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  dca@... | 07/20/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  HouseOfZen | 07/20/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  sgtm8@... | 07/20/09
Good scam. Nice Interest  Tom6 | 07/20/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  Starman35 | 07/20/09
Are you crazy?  kguzzi@... | 07/20/09
You miss the point  AVALAR | 07/20/09
The consumer expectation was flawed.  dkawalec | 07/20/09
Because...  ElecNinja | 07/21/09
Stop being so melodramatic ...  dkawalec | 07/21/09
Yeah that's what Amazon should say  oncall | 07/21/09
Amazon shows me I'm important to them ...  dkawalec | 07/21/09
Actually  athynz | 07/24/09
Use your brain  Answerfactory | 07/20/09
RE: Amazon  LANShark524 | 07/20/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  Badgered | 07/20/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  Andylb | 07/20/09
Mis-informed  sfriedrich | 07/20/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  ladyhenry | 07/20/09
Let's look at it this way...  Dry_Land_Is_Not_A_Myth | 07/20/09
Do you own a Kindle?  sfriedrich | 07/20/09
Just once  ElecNinja | 07/21/09
What the FBI is allowed to do in other countries....  mrlinux | 07/21/09
Re; DRM is good to stop theives from sharing other people's work.  hkommedal | 07/21/09
DRM Violates Fair Use Doctrine  Cardhu | 07/20/09
Thanks For Having Some Guts  NeilShapiro | 07/20/09
How does this have anything to do with DRM?  dblevins54 | 07/20/09
"100?s of Kindle DRMed ebooks I own"  dkawalec | 07/20/09
It's just more noticeable than a paper book, that's all.  bhartman36 | 07/23/09
I think you're missing some important distinctions ...  dkawalec | 07/24/09
I loathe DRM as much as the next guy...  Captiosus | 07/20/09
DRM, practically speaking  JimW01 | 07/20/09
Re; images on that disk are the property of someone else . .  hkommedal | 07/21/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  Daedalu | 07/20/09
Good luck with that.  philculmer | 07/21/09
Amazon shows us why not to buy a Kindle.  nmurphy24 | 07/20/09
The pirates always win.  kraterz | 07/20/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  Tennisyoda@... | 07/20/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  ipblythe | 07/21/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  bryan@... | 07/21/09
possesion of stolen property  livebalazlive | 07/21/09
I think Amazon really created an anti sales move here.  hkommedal | 07/21/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  lonestar359@... | 07/21/09
Will Microsoft do the same to PCs that don't upgrade from XP?  garylt | 07/21/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  syber@... | 07/21/09
But, you're wrong.  caspianhiro | 07/22/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  slamspam | 07/22/09
RE: Amazon shows us why DRM is a bad idea  areakode | 07/22/09
Noce point  ioni | 07/22/09
Nice that you made a Noce point!  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 07/22/09
Amazon sux  MrViklund | 07/23/09
DRM & what's a Kindle?  warpuck@... | 08/01/09
The freedom of using a book!  qlcamaabsa | 08/06/09
Fahrenheit 451  palman@... | 08/12/09
Amazon is a dishonest company  Alan Balkany | 08/12/09

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