You'll always need the Admin account
Zathros | 06/11/09
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You're thinking in XP terms
wolf_z | 06/11/09
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Actualy
jdbukis@... | 06/11/09
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Yes, you're right
Zathros | 06/11/09
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Unfortunately this is another example of convenience trumping...
ye | 06/11/09
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Not only that
Drakaran | 06/11/09
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You bet. Something I've advocated.
ye | 06/11/09
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Why do they offer these options?
SamCPP | 06/11/09
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RE: Why do they offer these options?
SamCPP | 06/11/09
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That's the million dollar question.
ye | 06/12/09
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That's right
Wintel BSOD | 06/12/09
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Not buying it
frgough | 06/12/09
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LOL! Wasn't that a problem in the BETA version?
ye | 06/12/09
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all users vs specific user desktop
rtk | 06/12/09
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@rtk: That is correct.
ye | 06/12/09
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Shortcut on the desktop?
notsofast | 06/12/09
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U.A.C. is not designed....
edwards.wb | 06/12/09
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The problem, as I understand it, is...
ye | 06/12/09
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Maybe the UAC prompt
SamCPP | 06/11/09
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Wrong... Ubuntu Linux does without
norm.mcmillan@... | 06/11/09
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Unless they've changed something
alaniane@... | 06/12/09
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NT and Unix/Linux model security
tmsbrdrs | 06/12/09
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This is a reminder that convenience trumpts security.
ye | 06/11/09
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Nope
frgough | 06/12/09
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OS X does no such thing.
ye | 06/12/09
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Strawman?
notsofast | 06/12/09
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UAC is the first step to having a default standard user
mikefarinha | 06/11/09
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Yet another example of Windows limitations.
no_zd_user_name | 06/11/09
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Please detail for us the differences between the two.
ye | 06/11/09
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Google is ye friend
no_zd_user_name | 06/11/09
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That was pretty lame Dietrich.
ye | 06/11/09
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Sometimes reality is lame
InAction Man | 06/11/09
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Ye's point is
notsofast | 06/12/09
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You can always do...
InAction Man | 06/13/09
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OK, let's see here.....try this
no_zd_user_name | 06/11/09
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You actualy believe that dont you?
jdbukis@... | 06/11/09
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Read the ars technica article re: rundll32
no_zd_user_name | 06/11/09
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RE: Read the ars technica article re: rundll32
SamCPP | 06/11/09
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Good grief, who does that?
Wintel BSOD | 06/12/09
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Please see this post of mine:
ye | 06/11/09
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Doesn't that make it useless?
SamCPP | 06/11/09
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@SamCPP: We're in agreement. (nt)
ye | 06/12/09
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Really? Windows works great for me. It always has.
Cayble | 06/12/09
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Yet the author said he thought UAC could, and should, be fixed n/t
notsofast | 06/12/09
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Yet another exemple why religions and OSes dont mix.
Ceridan | 06/11/09
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Like there is really a differnce
NewGuy#1 | 06/11/09
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Ergo? Hey Egor, read this
no_zd_user_name | 06/11/09
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Linux for the normal user
NewGuy#1 | 06/11/09
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There are GUI equivalents.
ye | 06/11/09
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Terminal or not...
Ceridan | 06/11/09
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Apples and Oranges
no_zd_user_name | 06/11/09
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The difference being...
ye | 06/11/09
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Try it on Windows and watch people complain!
CobraA1 | 06/11/09
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@CobraA1: I'm one of those people.
ye | 06/11/09
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Yet . . .
CobraA1 | 06/11/09
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@CobraA1: Post of the Month!
thx-1138_@... | 06/12/09
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True, but
notsofast | 06/12/09
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Scary!
TucsonGuy | 06/13/09
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Synaptic
no_zd_user_name | 06/11/09
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another program
NewGuy#1 | 06/11/09
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Bzzzzzzzzt. No download necessary. Synaptic is standard equipment
no_zd_user_name | 06/11/09
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@Dietrich T. Schmitz
Ceridan | 06/11/09
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@Ceridan: Ubuntu comes standard with Synaptic Package Manager
no_zd_user_name | 06/11/09
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@Dietrich T. Schmitz
Ceridan | 06/11/09
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This is not a failing of Linux.
ye | 06/11/09
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@Ceridan: That's the problem with Linux.
ye | 06/11/09
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Ceridan
Wintel BSOD | 06/12/09
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And from a usability perspective...
Ben_E | 06/16/09
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Huh?????
Dave32265 | 06/11/09
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This Average User!
jackadair@... | 06/12/09
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Ok first off...
Dave32265 | 06/12/09
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RE: Should
Loverock Davidson | 06/11/09
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No need. UAC will automatically intervene.
ye | 06/11/09
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UAC
Loverock Davidson | 06/11/09
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They're complaining because it's Microsoft.
ye | 06/11/09
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Sometimes perception is more important than reality
InAction Man | 06/11/09
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And that's not necessarily bad
Wintel BSOD | 06/12/09
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infact
jdbukis@... | 06/11/09
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Much of a chip on your shoulder?
SimonUK2 | 06/12/09
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Simple, really
djmik | 06/11/09
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That is a good solution (NT)
Loverock Davidson | 06/11/09
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Welcome to Linux
Alan Smithie | 06/12/09
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It should
Ceridan | 06/11/09
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Aside from system changes I don't see UAC prompts.
ye | 06/11/09
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there are few actually but...
Ceridan | 06/11/09
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I know there are some. What I'm trying to determine is...
ye | 06/11/09
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I know....
Ceridan | 06/11/09
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Ceridan, what is it that you are trying to install?
Wintel BSOD | 06/12/09
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Standard user already is the "default" in all my installs...
BillDem | 06/11/09
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Great post.
ye | 06/11/09
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Unbelievable
nizuse | 06/11/09
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That's pretty much what your post is.
ye | 06/11/09
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"It seems everyone but you"
nizuse | 06/11/09
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Very believable...
DevStar | 06/11/09
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@ nizuse
GAXXIS | 06/12/09
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Too Many 'My Bads'
JasonJD48 | 07/09/09
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RE: UAC rights - what should be standard?
philipralban@... | 06/11/09
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Agreed
CobraA1 | 06/11/09
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RE: Should
GoodThings2Life | 06/11/09
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The problem with that is
groovepoint@... | 06/11/09
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A plea to all Linux Users everywhere. YOU MUST READ THIS!.
Bozzer | 06/11/09
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And let's not forget
Ceridan | 06/11/09
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Not quite
wkulecz | 06/11/09
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But other versions do.
ye | 06/11/09
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But other versions do?
wkulecz | 06/12/09
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Yes, it is.
ye | 06/12/09
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Ceridan, when the script kiddies come up with something....
Wintel BSOD | 06/12/09
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script kiddies don't come up with anything
rtk | 06/12/09
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They sure do
Wintel BSOD | 06/12/09
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Re: Linux Users Read This
night-hunter | 06/11/09
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Looks like truth here
dtroyerSMU | 06/11/09
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You've missed everything.
wkulecz | 06/11/09
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and you, too, missed some
NetArch. | 06/11/09
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@ye
Ceridan | 06/11/09
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RE: Should be Default , but give option if needed
dtroyerSMU | 06/11/09
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This exists in Vista today.
ye | 06/11/09
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RE: Should Social Engineering
chris@... | 06/11/09
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How is it any different than Windows?
ye | 06/11/09
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You mean OS/2
chris@... | 06/11/09
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You're wrong. And no, I don't mean OS/2
ye | 06/11/09
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And you are
chris@... | 06/11/09
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See where inference gets you?
ye | 06/11/09
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Umm..
chris@... | 06/11/09
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@chris: I suggest you take a look at the books I referenced.
ye | 06/12/09
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Thank win32 for the crap that is
Kaiwai | 06/11/09
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You and Chris
jdbukis@... | 06/12/09
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MS is stuck between a rock and a hard place
NStalnecker | 06/11/09
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Given that they should opt for the most secure configuration.
ye | 06/11/09
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RE: There SHOULD be.....
carlsf@... | 06/11/09
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You already have standard user rights when you have UAC turned on
IDontWantAUserName81 | 06/11/09
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Most consumers ...
mwagner@... | 06/11/09
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I think it's more important for things they didn't initiate.
ye | 06/11/09
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RE: Should
rdhalsteatzd | 06/11/09
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Id be suprised
jdbukis@... | 06/12/09
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That's why there should be only ONE ...
mwagner@... | 06/12/09
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This is essentially the advice I've given to my "users".
ye | 06/12/09
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Most users don't care
rdhalsteatzd | 06/11/09
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Standard account shouldn't be the norm until...
Lilputing | 06/11/09
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MS has been educating developers for over 10 years.
ye | 06/11/09
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I did
jdbukis@... | 06/12/09
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What a joke
SamCPP | 06/11/09
|
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My prediction ...
n0neXn0ne | 06/11/09
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Bad prediction
jdbukis@... | 06/12/09
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RE: This is a bad idea, not from a technical standpoint but a user pov...
bradavon | 06/12/09
|
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Yes, standard user by default is not the answer...
thx-1138_@... | 06/13/09
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RE: Should
bradavon | 06/12/09
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Education is the key
ozguy | 06/12/09
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Leave UAC alone microsoft
zmud | 06/12/09
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Why should I care what they leave it as
User 13 | 06/12/09
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The problem is education not design
mr1972 | 06/12/09
|
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Admin accounts as default opens the door to intrusion.
Renifer | 06/12/09
|
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RE: Should
DustinHarper | 06/12/09
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re RE: Should
rseiler | 06/14/09
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Definitely not
S.Howard-Sarin  | 06/12/09
|
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Security Overkill
wgrimes | 06/12/09
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RE: Should
douglasids | 06/12/09
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RE: Should
freezerlunik | 06/12/09
|
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Convenience will always beat security
thefinisher | 06/12/09
|
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Agreed
NStalnecker | 06/14/09
|
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What I Do With Windows XP
JasonJD48 | 06/29/09
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RE: Should
Aragorn7 | 07/25/09
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