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Ubuntu's Development Both Blessing and Curse
Unfortunately the issue with Ubuntu, it that it has become a victim of its own development successes.

Technologically it is now for the most part the equal or better of Windows, or OSX. However this shines the bight light on the fact that there is very little revolution is taking place in Desktop Linux land. They seem to be in a perpetual state of copycat, perfecting what exists but rarely evolving.

Linux desktop initiatives now need to learn to REALLY innovate. These projects need to recruit more GUI designers, usability experts, artist, et.al. I'd love to see Ubuntu make a quantum leap like Apple did to the GUI desktop when OSX was released. Not just try to look like OSX.
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Ubuntu's Development Both Blessing and Curse  civikminded | 03/02/09
What are you basing your opinion on?  hamobu | 03/02/09
My whole point  civikminded | 03/02/09
Add/Remove  balaknair | 03/02/09
Stereotype is not the point.  hamobu | 03/02/09
Hey!  SimonUK | 03/02/09
I guess my information is out-dated, but...  hamobu | 03/03/09
So even if you were wrong  GOTBO | 03/03/09
I agree  don@... | 03/04/09
You make a good point  T1Oracle | 03/03/09
Linux find all the drivers  BroGnorik | 03/03/09
What were the specs and problems?  tmsbrdrs | 03/03/09
I've been using Ubuntu 8.10 in an Aspire laptop with no trouble  InAction Man | 03/03/09
Is your Aspire the 5000 series?  BroGnorik | 03/03/09
So where is your problem again?  tmsbrdrs | 03/04/09
Go to Ubuntu user forums  BroGnorik | 03/03/09
Wireless and Acer Aspire 5000 with Ubuntu 8.10  Update victim | 03/03/09
I disagree.  InAction Man | 03/03/09
Most everything is automated now.  mjolnar@... | 03/03/09
Oh I see the problems are only with Nvidia or ATI  cymru999 | 03/06/09
Hardware  daengbo | 03/03/09
Mainly a legality issue  D-cat | 03/04/09
I would echo this  cymru999 | 03/06/09
Look to KDE4 for innovation  don_pederson@... | 03/03/09
KDE4 is definitely the most innovative  don_pederson@... | 03/27/09
It's the applications that matter  pjotr123 | 03/02/09
Exactly - NT  tripolitan | 03/02/09
Actually, the OS is all about hardware  Spats30 | 03/02/09
Because people don't know  mjolnar@... | 03/03/09
RE: Has Ubuntu hit a plateau?  dave@... | 03/02/09
You can only play catch up if you're behind...  storm14k | 03/02/09
Pray tell  frgough | 03/02/09
It's a long list  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/02/09
Also:  none none | 03/02/09
Well if we want to fo the technical route...  storm14k | 03/02/09
All of these are apps, not OS features  de-void | 03/04/09
Bzzt. Try again  frgough | 03/02/09
Bzzzt...wrong...  storm14k | 03/03/09
re: Bzzt. Try again  none none | 03/03/09
@none none  Axsimulate | 03/03/09
@Axsimulate: Regarding your incorrect statments on NT:  de-void | 03/04/09
Sorry  frgough | 03/02/09
To Further your point.  SimonUK | 03/02/09
So you talk about "me too" operating systems...  storm14k | 03/03/09
@storm14k  Axsimulate | 03/03/09
@Axsimulate  storm14k | 03/04/09
re: Sorry  none none | 03/03/09
OS X has had X11 include support since Panther (10.3)  ye | 03/03/09
re: OS X has had X11 include support since Panther (10.3)  none none | 03/03/09
@none none: You'll have to ask him as it's not my argument. (nt)  ye | 03/03/09
NO - that's a SHORT list - it's only 5 things!  de-void | 03/04/09
To add a few to theirs that I tend to use heavily...  storm14k | 03/02/09
VMs?  khawaja.umar.farooq@... | 03/04/09
*heh* I'm not excited about the Windows 7 taskbar  dw.needham@... | 03/02/09
This for that!  istari2ve2002@... | 03/03/09
And Ubuntu is still behind in some areas  dw.needham@... | 03/02/09
RE: ... Ubuntu is still behind in some area ... stores  n0neXn0ne | 03/02/09
Out of the box?  storm14k | 03/03/09
Good summary  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/02/09
Whoops!  SimonUK | 03/02/09
Downloaded it Friday....  storm14k | 03/02/09
Who needs 512MB?  obvio.capitao@... | 03/02/09
and  Azathothh | 03/03/09
So  rikasa | 03/03/09
Curious code names, full OSs = long-term support?  AySz88 | 03/02/09
agreed!  shryko | 03/04/09
Operating systems stopped being revolutionary years ago.  ye | 03/02/09
You are correct, but...  hamobu | 03/02/09
The OS should be jumping and screaming to get my attention  InAction Man | 03/02/09
Wrong  frgough | 03/02/09
As a matter of fact.. I do recall why...  Wolfie2K3 | 03/02/09
re: Operating systems stopped being revolutionary years ago.  none none | 03/02/09
Which is why Linux  GuidingLight | 03/02/09
And who needs a revolution?  InAction Man | 03/02/09
You need to stop being so sensitive.  ye | 03/02/09
Perhaps he is just sensitive about Unix.  B.O.F.H. | 03/02/09
And you need to stop being so defensive.  none none | 03/02/09
It was implied.  ye | 03/02/09
Well, now you know. (NT)  none none | 03/02/09
OS Revolutions  khawaja.umar.farooq@... | 03/04/09
Ubuntu is not a toy.  InAction Man | 03/02/09
You get points for being succinct  hamobu | 03/02/09
But you can still have fun with it  Chad_z | 03/02/09
actually openoffice 3.0 is a big win for me  stevey_d | 03/02/09
Hitting singles vs. home runs.  hamobu | 03/02/09
Exactly! (NT)  ccrashh2@... | 03/02/09
Yesss, NT  tripolitan | 03/02/09
I agree (NT)  balaknair | 03/02/09
Good points. Ubuntu will hit a plateu, as there is only so much you can do  DonnieBoy | 03/02/09
So you believe that  GuidingLight | 03/02/09
Um..what?  ccrashh2@... | 03/02/09
Real changes, not hype  DevGuy_z | 03/02/09
ccrash talk  dougbeer | 03/02/09
Ooooo...  ccrashh2@... | 03/04/09
New Stuff  khawaja.umar.farooq@... | 03/04/09
Re: New Stuff  txtechdog | 03/23/09
You say the all singing all dancing vista is a change for better?  InAction Man | 03/02/09
What happened to all those "innovations"  DevGuy_z | 03/02/09
Ubuntu 9.04  balaknair | 03/02/09
Improvements though not innovations  DevGuy_z | 03/02/09
This is amusing.  kozmcrae | 03/02/09
Nice...  James T. Kirk | 03/02/09
If insults bother you,  kozmcrae | 03/02/09
They just want to force their agenda on others.  Yeartenn | 03/02/09
Didn't I say most people?  kozmcrae | 03/02/09
LOL  James T. Kirk | 03/03/09
At some point I believed AKH was an honest professional blogger  InAction Man | 03/02/09
Revolutionary changes?  ccrashh2@... | 03/02/09
Need for Change  khawaja.umar.farooq@... | 03/04/09
Applications are more important  MVNet | 03/02/09
That is proprietary software type thinking.  hamobu | 03/02/09
A person who wants my money  frgough | 03/02/09
Riiiight...  SimonUK | 03/02/09
The last 6 months hasn't been capitalism at work  frgough | 03/02/09
Last 6 months have been result of deregulation and free market reforms.  hamobu | 03/02/09
It is...all the jacka..es, that took out loans for stuff they  USTechHead | 03/03/09
Free market **does** correct itself.  InAction Man | 03/03/09
Don't talk tripe!  SimonUK | 03/03/09
And then *you* do...  fmcgowan | 03/03/09
Don't fret!  InAction Man | 03/03/09
What a nice shot in the foot  InAction Man | 03/02/09
Not at all  frgough | 03/02/09
Do you know...  SimonUK | 03/03/09
Do you?  fmcgowan | 03/03/09
The purest of motives  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/02/09
Typical ignorance  frgough | 03/02/09
Nonsense  hamobu | 03/02/09
OMG!!!  SimonUK | 03/03/09
You are right, in part.  InAction Man | 03/03/09
And I've got  balaknair | 03/02/09
Look, another Obama voter  frgough | 03/02/09
Right that is it.  SimonUK | 03/03/09
You spout this stuff ...  fmcgowan | 03/03/09
ROTFLMAO!  eMJayy | 03/02/09
Wow, lots of Obama voters today  frgough | 03/02/09
So clueless  eMJayy | 03/02/09
No!!!!!!!  rcbarr83@... | 03/02/09
Get real  eMJayy | 03/02/09
You missed the point entirely  Tony R. | 03/03/09
your best interest  rcbarr83@... | 03/02/09
Results are more important than proprietary vs. open source  MVNet | 03/02/09
What is a result and how do you measure it?  hamobu | 03/02/09
Yeah! So there!  SimonUK | 03/03/09
I am not talking about pictures themselves, but...  hamobu | 03/03/09
It is not just the JPEG  BroGnorik | 03/03/09
results oriented  rcbarr83@... | 03/02/09
RIGHT AND WRONG  mswift@... | 03/02/09
re: Applications are more important  none none | 03/02/09
re:none none  MVNet | 03/02/09
Case in point  Yagotta B. Kidding | 03/02/09
Reaching a plateau is not a bad thing, it's what  clfitz | 03/02/09
Service Packs  SimonUK | 03/02/09
Ubuntu is more than an OS  Alan Smithie | 03/02/09
re:none none  MVNet | 03/02/09
RE: Has Ubuntu hit a plateau?  rcbarr83@... | 03/02/09
OpenSUSE looks more polished  Joe_Raby | 03/02/09
open suse  rcbarr83@... | 03/02/09
Huh?  Joe_Raby | 03/03/09
RE: Has Ubuntu hit a plateau?  john.dorapalli@... | 03/02/09
Ahhhh Computing these days....  pcguy777 | 03/02/09
If you are not happy with GNOME...  obvio.capitao@... | 03/02/09
RE: Has Ubuntu hit a plateau?  balaknair | 03/02/09
RE: Has Ubuntu hit a plateau?  pppaulll | 03/02/09
'Whose economy?  balaknair | 03/02/09
Great Post.  joe.smetona@... | 03/02/09
5 Things huh?  BroGnorik | 03/03/09
What Ubuntu can do is focus on accessibility.  Grayson Peddie | 03/02/09
We all know what linux / Ubuntu is, its UNIX and its OLD  Aussie_Troll | 03/02/09
Now lets open up MS's Windows code...  storm14k | 03/02/09
ubuntu is OS plus applications  stevey_d | 03/02/09
Its still Ubuntu and it still have 46,000 Bugs  Aussie_Troll | 03/03/09
that's like saying "microsoft has 46000 bugs"  stevey_d | 03/03/09
What rubbish  none none | 03/02/09
RE: Has Ubuntu hit a plateau?  rMatey | 03/02/09
RE: Has Ubuntu hit a plateau?  Ron528 | 03/02/09
RE: Has Ubuntu hit a plateau?  blackjack861@... | 03/02/09
RE: Has Ubuntu hit a plateau?  bkoshiw@... | 03/02/09
It's the Development code name.  SimonUK | 03/02/09
RE: Has Ubuntu hit a plateau?  mark_ross | 03/02/09
RE: Has Ubuntu hit a plateau?  rtirman37@... | 03/02/09
OS vs Applications  dmhunter@... | 03/02/09
Evolution is better than revolution  putt1ck | 03/02/09
The matter is irrelevant  dimitri.aguero@... | 03/03/09
KDE 4.2  patibulo | 03/03/09
Why do you complain ??  questionmark | 03/03/09
It's an OS, not a game!!!  tbcass | 03/03/09
I agree  donniebnyc@... | 03/03/09
It has surpassed  GuidingLight | 03/03/09
[citation needed]  SteveMcQwark | 03/25/09
No disrespect intended  AndyCee | 03/03/09
RE: Has Ubuntu hit a plateau?  rock06r | 03/03/09
RE: Has Ubuntu hit a plateau?  vilppuu@... | 03/03/09
In its infancy  Christian_<>< | 03/03/09
RE: Has Ubuntu hit a plateau?  tymiles | 03/03/09
Random Thoughts  istari2ve2002@... | 03/03/09
RE: Has Ubuntu hit a plateau?  Loverock Davidson | 03/03/09
Ubuntu has miles and miles to go to catch up to Windows.  Solid Jedi Knight | 03/03/09
When you say  fmcgowan | 03/03/09
unbeleivable fanboyism  stevey_d | 03/03/09
Is Ubuntu really THAT far behind Windows?  Narg | 03/03/09
Yes ...  Tony R. | 03/03/09
Except, of course  Update victim | 03/03/09
what a fud post. You don't even give an example  stevey_d | 03/03/09
An example:  InformedComment | 03/03/09
O.o  SteveMcQwark | 03/25/09
RE: Has Ubuntu hit a plateau?  dmmagic | 03/03/09
Change for the purpose of change sank Vista.  darkonc | 03/03/09
I'd say the changes in Vista/Windows 7 are no less compelling than...  ye | 03/03/09
There is plenty left to do...  Tony R. | 03/03/09
you allude to bugs but don't list a single one that's just fud  stevey_d | 03/03/09
Audio is broken  D-cat | 03/03/09
What I wish from an OS!?  emmerc@... | 03/03/09
It's not a plateau, it's just how it should be!  emenau | 03/03/09
Wow. Yo, it's Alpha!  D-cat | 03/03/09
It is not important to be exciting.  deedeedubya | 03/03/09
Linux lock out  mister-moon | 03/03/09
What planet are you on?  D-cat | 03/03/09
Plateaus are healthy  srobtjones@... | 03/04/09
RE: Has Ubuntu hit a plateau?  ac567@... | 03/04/09
Roll-ups are not bad, imo...  shryko | 03/04/09
He's right MS dosn't "Innovate" they buy out innovaters  Breetai | 03/04/09
RE: Has Ubuntu hit a plateau?  jw@... | 03/04/09
RE: Has Ubuntu hit a plateau?  elimister | 03/04/09
RE: Has Ubuntu hit a plateau?  khawaja.umar.farooq@... | 03/04/09
"You say you want a revolution...  symbolset | 03/04/09
Ubuntu like any distro is limited by GNU development  robert_mt_walker@... | 03/27/09
RE: Has Ubuntu hit a plateau?  moondowner | 03/27/09
The OS is irrelevant  drobinow | 03/28/09
Linux/Unix is Boring  jpr75_z | 03/28/09
have all OS's hit a plateau  sparkle farkle | 03/29/09
RE: Has Ubuntu hit a plateau?  cancrusher | 03/29/09
Ubuntu Just Works! I love it!!!!  emmerc@... | 04/21/09

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