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I don't understand MS on this issue, i see little effort on the advertising side. And they don't seem to want to support the community. I live in Canada, and i have had my Zune 8 since august. I adore my Zune, but no Marketplace, and no ZunePass, but more importantly NO NEWS!!!

I love the hardware, but a simple update as to the reality of the situation would really be nice. I do think they have a great product. But it almost seems like they aren't convinced.
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No real effort  ultramo | 01/24/09
My guesses as to the explanation and this loser's losing advice  DannyO_0x98 | 01/24/09
Good Points.....  dave95. | 01/26/09
Insightful Comments  Geotopia | 01/26/09
All Good Points - But I THINK They Could Make The Zune Fly Still  drprod@... | 01/26/09
The Logic of the Marketing  Marcos El Malo | 01/24/09
Lack of Marketing  TallTomD | 01/26/09
You took the words right out of my mouth  tikigawd | 01/26/09
I disagree  gohmc | 01/26/09
Who's talking about WMP?  tikigawd | 01/26/09
Evil iTunes  TallTomD | 01/27/09
Clueless  DeusExMachina | 01/26/09
Not so much...  rprivett | 01/26/09
Inferior Hardware  TallTomD | 01/27/09
FM Stereo, WiFi  TallTomD | 01/27/09
Lack of Marketing  malbrook | 01/26/09
Heavy promotion over Xmas here...  rx7racer | 01/29/09
Yes!!  Ben_rockwood | 01/24/09
Sure they could!  Marcos El Malo | 01/24/09
Maybe  Ben_rockwood | 01/24/09
No but  timiteh | 01/24/09
The Zune is at the Too little, too late point.  Bruizer | 01/24/09
Ermm...  logicearth@... | 01/25/09
My markets are aligned.  Bruizer | 01/25/09
Uhmmm......  dave95. | 01/26/09
I guess I was "next gen" 7 years ago!  NonZealot | 01/26/09
The iPAQ?  dave95. | 01/26/09
Um...  Steve*1* | 01/26/09
Umm Right, Newton!  dave95. | 01/26/09
Hello, M$FT Bigot Zealot!  drprod@... | 01/26/09
I guess I was "next gen" 7 years ago!  StraussWylde | 01/27/09
7 years old?  minardi | 01/27/09
I never said PDA/Pocket Computers/Smart Phones...  logicearth@... | 01/27/09
Is your laptop marketed as an MP3 Player?  Bruizer | 01/27/09
Same thing for the NintendoDS  StraussWylde | 01/27/09
MS doesn't know how to innovate...  doctorSpoc | 01/26/09
Whoever heard of a PDA that played multimedia?  NonZealot | 01/26/09
Yes.  Sleeper Service | 01/24/09
But why?  GuidingLight | 01/24/09
Because it is a market failure.  Bruizer | 01/24/09
Yes, their marketing sucks..  FearTheDonut | 01/24/09
A subscription model is a bad idea.  Bruizer | 01/24/09
But iTunes is a "subscription model" in the sense  Pliny the Elder | 01/25/09
Why, other devices can play MP4.  Bruizer | 01/25/09
@Bruizer  logicearth@... | 01/25/09
Those 120 "free" songs only cost you what? $180 USD  Bruizer | 01/25/09
Those free songs are free...  logicearth@... | 01/26/09
Those 180 songs cost you 120 USD.  Bruizer | 01/26/09
No I'm paying $180/year...  logicearth@... | 01/26/09
You pay $180/year for 10 songs/month plus subscription.  Bruizer | 01/26/09
the real math  coffeeshark | 01/26/09
Subscription is the wave of the future ..  BryEDS@... | 01/26/09
So is Columbia Music House.  Bruizer | 01/26/09
$15 a month... why? i can listen to last FM for free! nt  doctorSpoc | 01/26/09
So much for nt  tikigawd | 01/26/09
You've got to be kidding  Synthmeister | 01/26/09
people know it's out there  rynning | 01/24/09
You may know its out there  Pliny the Elder | 01/25/09
As has been mentioned...  Sleeper Service | 01/25/09
No, It Needs to Hang On So Ballmer's Total LUZERdom at M$FT Is Clear To All  drprod@... | 01/26/09
Win some, lose some  Marcos El Malo | 01/24/09
Further Comparin' and Contrastin'  DannyO_0x98 | 01/24/09
Lose some;lose some  Jeremy W | 01/25/09
good points  Michael Fournier | 01/26/09
To Be Fair - and I HATE Being Fair to M$FT in Front of All Its Fanbois!  drprod@... | 01/26/09
The Market Place has spoken  jaypeg | 01/24/09
Don't forget...  Ben_E | 01/25/09
Zune will die due to MS customer service  bob-holton@... | 01/26/09
Excellent Customer Service  FiOS-Dave | 04/13/09
How long did it take Word and Excel to overtake WordPerfect and 1-2-3?  PB_z | 01/24/09
No way to bundle Zune with a PC sale  wackoae | 01/24/09
???  FearTheDonut | 01/24/09
Primary reason for #1 is #2.  wackoae | 01/24/09
Hmmm  logicearth@... | 01/25/09
Considered and actually being are two different things  wackoae | 01/25/09
The market?...not really.  Cayble | 01/26/09
What are you talking about?  Pliny the Elder | 01/25/09
Well...  Bruizer | 01/25/09
...research next time  logicearth@... | 01/25/09
#1 is why the Zune is failing.  Bruizer | 01/25/09
Why skirt the question? Simple answers needed  GuidingLight | 01/25/09
Simple answers.  Bruizer | 01/25/09
Office was software not hardware  spincitysd@... | 01/24/09
Most people don't care  Pliny the Elder | 01/25/09
Let your kid take a Zune to school ... then ask him.  wackoae | 01/25/09
Ask him what? I take my Zune to school all the time. (NT)  logicearth@... | 01/25/09
OS Leverage  Synthmeister | 01/26/09
Zune may go the way of Bob OS  spincitysd@... | 01/24/09
A well considered post  jaypeg | 01/25/09
ZuneBob  TallTomD | 01/27/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  FearTheDonut | 01/24/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  SkateNY | 01/24/09
Zune is a superior player in the nano classic category  tech_walker | 01/24/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  SkateNY | 01/25/09
If the world...  GuyAlanDye | 01/26/09
Probably, retailers and consumers call the market iPod  Boot_Agnostic | 01/25/09
like Macs to Windows  Boot_Agnostic | 01/25/09
No, but revenue should.  Bruizer | 01/25/09
Sure .... why not  wackoae | 01/25/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  pcook@... ZDNet Moderator | 01/25/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  SkateNY | 01/25/09
Correction...  SimonUK | 01/26/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  nothingness | 01/26/09
Not High on the MS list of things to do  jpr75_z | 01/26/09
kick xbox, zune, win mobile  scole3@... | 01/26/09
Focus, Microsoft, focus  Auriels_Flame | 01/26/09
Adrian hates microsoft...  Narg | 01/26/09
Hate Microsoft?  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 01/26/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  tpatric99 | 01/26/09
iPod vs. Everything Else  Angie711 | 01/26/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  quasilou | 01/26/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  videomaker2000@... | 01/26/09
who is the target for the zune?  reapur | 01/26/09
I see your point, but  tikigawd | 01/26/09
No, But Now Would Be a Good Time to Get Serious  randrmcvey@... | 01/26/09
Two problem - software and accessories  kme1961 | 01/27/09
No! Make it work the way it should.  wrsipler@... | 01/26/09
Too bad Microsoft could not have forced some changes on iPods  Animal13 | 01/26/09
Keep the Zune  Jimbo6 | 01/26/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  hiccius doccius | 01/26/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  tmdnh | 01/26/09
Should have heavily discounted the Zune  jscott418 | 01/26/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  tmdnh | 01/26/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  dasprem@... | 01/26/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  paulkoller3 | 01/26/09
RE: Zune software sxxks  hiccius doccius | 01/27/09
Mercedes installs Zume slot to thier new...  Steve*1* | 01/26/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  meekgeek | 01/26/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  ladyhenry | 01/26/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  raynman55 | 01/26/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  rich3page | 01/26/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  vbachman | 01/26/09
MS is not a hardware company  mkill | 01/26/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  atari8bit@... | 01/26/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  mweiss51@... | 01/26/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  jacqueslarouche@... | 01/26/09
Zune or itouch  jtprescottjr@... | 01/26/09
They are overpriced and MP3 players are probably dying.  TripleII | 01/26/09
What made the iPod was iTunes  Michael Fournier | 01/26/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  malbrook | 01/26/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  elwynsattic@... | 01/26/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  ewillig | 01/26/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  msd3000@... | 01/26/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  john@... | 01/27/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  Cosmic1 | 01/27/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  Cosmic1 | 01/27/09
RE: What's a zune??  hiccius doccius | 01/27/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  Tyr.Anasazi@... | 01/27/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  marc_90292@... | 01/27/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  jody@... | 01/27/09
Zune - bad by association?  Vivifiant | 01/27/09
Bad by association?  Vivifiant | 01/27/09
Why fume for the Zune doom? death to DRM  spinella@... | 01/27/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  cmwiswall | 01/27/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  eavilev@... | 01/28/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  bigsibling | 01/28/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  bob@... | 01/28/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  scoobee@... | 01/28/09
re: toy O.S.  hiccius doccius | 01/29/09
Perhaps a friendlier approach?  spyro17@... | 01/29/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  killiandw | 02/02/09
hopefully zune pass will save it  les.cseh@... | 02/04/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  bnpositive | 02/11/09
RE: Should Microsoft kick the Zune to the Island of the Misfit Toys?  bnpositive | 02/11/09

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