A fix which does not involve "nuking the system" is best.
Anton Philidor | 01/12/09
|

Agreed, but...
NStalnecker | 01/12/09
|
 
I've lost count of the ...
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes | 01/12/09
|
  
Thank god...
LiquidLearner | 01/12/09
|
   
It's a very good thing...
ShadowGIATL | 01/12/09
|
    
What?
Lerianis | 01/12/09
|
     
Ok...
ShadowGIATL | 01/12/09
|
     
Pity... I could have shown you one such system...
Wolfie2K3 | 01/13/09
|
     
@Wolfie2K3
ShadowGIATL | 01/13/09
|
     
Allow me to add another example
brendthess | 01/13/09
|
     
@ ShadowGIATL: Symantec running Norton...
Wolfie2K3 | 01/13/09
|
     
Be Thankful
ed.thompson@... | 01/13/09
|
     
Norton....
michael.tindall@... | 01/13/09
|
     
certainly no fairy tale !
digitrog | 01/13/09
|
     
I have
mdsock@... | 01/13/09
|
     
I think the numbers speak volumes here. (nt)
ShadowGIATL | 01/13/09
|
  
Its a wonder
NStalnecker | 01/12/09
|
   
Evil is as evil does...
Wolfie2K3 | 01/13/09
|
    
Thanks for the heads up.
sjbinaz | 01/13/09
|
    
Gotta love them...
ShadowGIATL | 01/13/09
|
     
To Shadow or Wolfie
TRCIV | 01/13/09
|
     
@ TRCIV: Antivirus recommendations
Wolfie2K3 | 01/13/09
|
     
@Wolfie and TRCIV
ShadowGIATL | 01/13/09
|
    
Gotta agree with that one.
masonwheeler | 01/13/09
|
    
Another Norton Story
clareJ | 01/13/09
|
     
business practices
jg_@... | 01/13/09
|
  
ditto
pgit | 01/13/09
|
  
Norton ETC.
deefburger | 01/13/09
|
 
Well... There's your problem...!
Wolfie2K3 | 01/13/09
|
  
Hey! Watch your language. . .
photog7 | 01/13/09
|
   
But... It's not detritus...
Wolfie2K3 | 01/13/09
|
 
AV software - bad
dgrainge | 01/13/09
|
  
Because...
ShadowGIATL | 01/13/09
|
  
With these AVs, you can't go wrong...
JCitizen | 01/13/09
|
  
This is precisly why...
Uncle Buck | 01/20/09
|

Partitioning saves the day!
Amelioration | 01/12/09
|
 
I wish Windows ...
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes | 01/12/09
|
  
That's why
Alan Smithie | 01/12/09
|
   
Umm....
ShadowGIATL | 01/12/09
|
    
Erm
Alan Smithie | 01/13/09
|
     
Ehh
ShadowGIATL | 01/13/09
|
    
Does that include
frgough | 01/13/09
|
     
Kernels are not multi-user.
ye | 01/13/09
|
     
That can include...
ShadowGIATL | 01/13/09
|
     
@ye
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 01/13/09
|
     
@Kid Icarus: Go back and re-read what I wrote. Specifically...
ye | 01/13/09
|
     
@ye
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 01/13/09
|
     
@Kid Icarus: It's no more "allowed" than programs writing to...
ye | 01/13/09
|
     
@Kid Icarus
grail@... | 01/13/09
|
     
@ye
daengbo | 01/13/09
|
     
@daengbo: Which is no different then what Windows provides.
ye | 01/13/09
|
    
Multi user is not the problem here
dimonic | 01/13/09
|
     
Drives do not need drive letters in Windows.
ye | 01/13/09
|
     
Not a great example...
ShadowGIATL | 01/13/09
|
    
That is true, but?
clareJ | 01/13/09
|
     
Programs don't have to use the registry.
ye | 01/13/09
|
     
I agree with Ye...
ShadowGIATL | 01/13/09
|
     
@Shadow: valid point
TedKraan | 01/14/09
|
     
@TedKraan: Most likely legacy.
ye | 01/14/09
|
     
@ye: Yeah, but i don't see how
TedKraan | 01/15/09
|
     
@TedKraan: I can only speculate. Here's what I think.
ye | 01/15/09
|
  
How is it supposed to determine which if three or more
Patanjali | 01/12/09
|
  
a simple way
chris_x | 01/12/09
|
  
Good idea
mwagner@... | 01/13/09
|
   
I usually do this myself...
ShadowGIATL | 01/13/09
|
    
The default file permissions prevent this.
ye | 01/13/09
|
     
Kinda... but
ShadowGIATL | 01/13/09
|
     
@ShadowGIATL: The default permissions prevent...
ye | 01/14/09
|
     
Very interesting discussion...
JCitizen | 01/14/09
|
     
@JCitizen: One gotcha I'm aware of: E-mail.
ye | 01/14/09
|
     
Yes, pointing the PST files is different...
JCitizen | 01/14/09
|
   
better idea
compufixer | 01/13/09
|
    
A good idea...
ShadowGIATL | 01/13/09
|
    
That is how I do it...
JCitizen | 01/14/09
|
  
Other OS
clareJ | 01/13/09
|
  
W8 Feature request
symbolset | 01/13/09
|
  
Re: I Wish
notsofast | 01/14/09
|
 
You think that's bad...
johnay | 01/12/09
|
  
Oh I hear ya...
ShadowGIATL | 01/12/09
|
 
C:
pgit | 01/13/09
|
 
Re: Partitioning
notsofast | 01/14/09
|

Over the years ...
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes | 01/12/09
|
 
Maybe because the problem isn't in the registry?
NonZealot | 01/12/09
|
  
Well
storm14k | 01/12/09
|
   
What do you mean by "Single access mechanism"? (nt)
ye | 01/12/09
|
   
Thanks for the reply
NonZealot | 01/12/09
|
    
@Ye and NonZealot
storm14k | 01/12/09
|
     
I understand
NonZealot | 01/12/09
|
     
The disk can only read a single file at a time thus...
ye | 01/12/09
|
     
Registry is a highly tuned DB
de-void | 01/12/09
|
     
@de-void
storm14k | 01/12/09
|
     
@storm14k: What you don't do is provide facts to support...
ye | 01/12/09
|
     
@ye
storm14k | 01/12/09
|
     
@ye: nice measurement!
TedKraan | 01/13/09
|
     
@storm14k: I'm not really sure what you're trying to say then.
ye | 01/13/09
|
     
LOL...
hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 01/13/09
|
     
@storm14k: Yes, registry can be faster than file system
de-void | 01/14/09
|
   
Of note...
ShadowGIATL | 01/12/09
|
    
Lazy app design.
p.bristow@... | 01/13/09
|
     
Glad someone agreed
ShadowGIATL | 01/13/09
|
     
@ShadowGIATL: Then you've never build a professional app
de-void | 01/14/09
|
     
@de-void...
ShadowGIATL | 01/14/09
|
     
@ShadowGIATL: Thank you ...
de-void | 01/15/09
|
     
@de-void
ShadowGIATL | 01/15/09
|
     
@ShadowGIATL: Thanks again ...
de-void | 01/19/09
|
    
Hear ye! Hear ye!
Uncle Buck | 01/20/09
|
   
I'd take that one step further...
Wolfie2K3 | 01/13/09
|
    
It's also where the config & data files reside
mystic100 | 01/13/09
|
  
It's a database.
TripleII | 01/12/09
|
   
If it truly is a table scan, that's pathetic
NonZealot | 01/12/09
|
    
If the registry is the source of slowdowns....
storm14k | 01/13/09
|
     
Here's a thing
richard.gardner@... | 01/13/09
|
    
It was the first link to say the same without selling.
TripleII | 01/13/09
|
     
registry and DRM
a.barry@... | 01/13/09
|
   
Poor uninstalls are a main reason, as you quote.
Anton Philidor | 01/13/09
|
  
I think the bigget problem...
mwagner@... | 01/13/09
|
  
registry is overblamed indeed
TedKraan | 01/14/09
|
 
From what I have seen..
ShadowGIATL | 01/12/09
|
  
Problems from Registry cleaners
Jacobus7 | 01/13/09
|
   
LOL... I like that...
ShadowGIATL | 01/13/09
|
 
Registry Cleaners
Jacobus7 | 01/13/09
|
 
Registry Cleaners
Ross Snowden | 01/17/09
|

Poor Discipline
Alan Smithie | 01/12/09
|

I have recommended reinstalling...
rtirman37@... | 01/12/09
|

RE:A fix which does not involve "nuking the system" is best.
richdave | 01/13/09
|
 
No need to lose "irreplaceable photos and documents"
GBessette | 01/13/09
|
  
Unwarranted assumption
Anton Philidor | 01/13/09
|
  
RE: No need to lose "irreplaceable photos and documents"
richdave | 01/14/09
|
  
Great suggestion.
joe.smetona@... | 01/26/09
|

Nuking The System- A must
whcressall@... | 01/13/09
|
 
Agree strongly
symbolset | 01/13/09
|
 
Interesting approach.
joe.smetona@... | 01/15/09
|

Good example that Windows has no ROI
GoPower | 01/13/09
|
 
If that was the case...
Wolfie2K3 | 01/13/09
|
  
I was wondering...
suirauqa | 01/13/09
|
   
Sigh.... and people leave their own clues....
ShadowGIATL | 01/13/09
|
    
Yeah, sure! Those ones and zeros just keep wearing out
Ole Man | 01/14/09
|
     
Eh...
ShadowGIATL | 01/14/09
|
  
That's an old argument...
TedKraan | 01/15/09
|

Problem is that I've never found a better solution than "nuking"
georgeou | 01/13/09
|
 
I did this today
symbolset | 01/13/09
|
 
Time required, fix vs nuke. Big advantage: fix.
Anton Philidor | 01/14/09
|
 
Replacing can be better for the IT newbie..
JCitizen | 01/14/09
|

reinstalling
darkmoonman | 01/13/09
|
 
Oh, I agree...
suirauqa | 01/13/09
|

Solution: Use Windows Vista or Mac OS X
grail@... | 01/13/09
|

Only if it's hosed and maybe not then
rdhalsteatzd | 01/13/09
|

Why won't people separate data from apps?
randy.baker@... | 01/13/09
|

Old story, but....
mdsock@... | 01/13/09
|

Nuking vs. Fixing
Your Mom 2.0 | 01/14/09
|
 
I used to be like that ...
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes | 01/14/09
|
 
If you're in a domain environment...
JCitizen | 01/14/09
|

Re: no nukes
notsofast | 01/14/09
|

One wrong click in Windoze and you got a rootkit...
xunil skcor | 01/14/09
|
No problems like that on my Macs
itguy08 | 01/12/09
|

Never had a problem on my Windows systems either.
ye | 01/12/09
|

MACs are not immune
draaron61@... | 01/12/09
|
 
MBP "bit rot"
Ben_E | 01/12/09
|
  
The following is just an FYI...
RicD_ | 01/12/09
|
   
One Addition.
DannyO_0x98 | 01/12/09
|
    
Thank you, yes I should have mentioned that fact. (NT)
RicD_ | 01/12/09
|
   
There is a small program...
suirauqa | 01/13/09
|
    
Two others as well...
RicD_ | 01/13/09
|
     
Thanks!
Ben_E | 01/13/09
|
     
Hi beneaton4
RicD_ | 01/13/09
|
  
Re: Linux
Alan(UK) | 01/13/09
|
  
Interesting but not credible
Graham Ellison | 01/13/09
|
  
I have seen this happen...
suirauqa | 01/13/09
|
   
Software
Ben_E | 01/13/09
|
 
Since 2002 never experienced it on OS X
itguy08 | 01/13/09
|
  
We got very slow startups on some machines
j.m.galvin | 01/13/09
|

it happens on Macs as well...
doctorSpoc | 01/13/09
|

Ummm... Yes there is
whcressall@... | 01/13/09
|
 
@whcressall
Axsimulate | 01/14/09
|
Bit-rot does exist.
Anton Philidor | 01/12/09
|
It's fiction. At least until someone can show otherwise.
ye | 01/12/09
|

You know what's so funny
Linux User 147560 | 01/12/09
|
 
Well for some reaons this wasn't showing that....
storm14k | 01/12/09
|
  
You'll have to get used to "mine's perfect therefore
deaf_e_kate | 01/12/09
|
   
I agree....
storm14k | 01/12/09
|
   
yeah, and of course the "mine's broken therefore"
rtk | 01/12/09
|
    
You mean only a fraction of a percent...
storm14k | 01/12/09
|
   
Mine is fine and I don't lie.
sjbinaz | 01/13/09
|
    
Clearly you also do not watch "House" either...
zkiwi | 01/13/09
|
     
So those who say Linux does not rot are lying?
ye | 01/14/09
|
     
Oh, I do.
sjbinaz | 01/14/09
|
     
@ye
zkiwi | 01/28/09
|
 
Most people don't know what they're talking about.
ye | 01/12/09
|
  
Really?
Linux User 147560 | 01/13/09
|
   
A matter of semantics
rarsa | 01/13/09
|
    
Excellent summation (nt)
ye | 01/13/09
|
   
When was the last time you installed iTunes on Linux?
ye | 01/13/09
|
    
Why would I install iTunes?
Linux User 147560 | 01/13/09
|
     
Because you have to in order to activate an iPhone.
ye | 01/13/09
|
     
No I don't agree with you
Linux User 147560 | 01/14/09
|
     
@Linux User 147560: Yes, Linux would.
ye | 01/14/09
|
     
Well first off
Linux User 147560 | 01/14/09
|
     
@Linux User 147560: So you are that bigger fool!
ye | 01/14/09
|
     
@Linux User 147560: What luxury!
TedKraan | 01/15/09
|
     
@ye
Linux User 147560 | 01/15/09
|
     
@TedKraan
Linux User 147560 | 01/15/09
|
     
@Linux User 147560: So this is not a "problem" unique to Windows.
ye | 01/15/09
|
  
Most people don't know what they're talking about.
windozefreak | 01/13/09
|
  
Now Ye is seeing things that don't exist...
jasonp@... | 01/13/09
|
   
Only for you my friend. I made no reference to...
ye | 01/13/09
|
 
Even funnier...
TripleII | 01/12/09
|
  
yes! absolutely funny
markbn | 01/12/09
|
   
You should not post lies
Ole Man | 01/13/09
|
    
it was an hyperbole
markbn | 01/13/09
|
     
I really appreciate you removing my post, ZDNet
Ole Man | 01/14/09
|
     
They removed your post because of obscene language
markbn | 01/14/09
|
     
My language is Sunday School
Ole Man | 01/14/09
|
     
Ole Man = Spin doctor
markbn | 01/15/09
|
     
Windows 7: Mojave My Ass
Ole Man | 01/27/09
|
   
Quite a tangent.
TripleII | 01/13/09
|
    
Sorry but i do care about drivers
markbn | 01/13/09
|
     
WinPrinters.
TripleII | 01/13/09
|
     
Re:Winprinters
markbn | 01/13/09
|
     
You keep missing the point.
TripleII | 01/13/09
|
     
Nope, but you keep dodging the issue
markbn | 01/14/09
|
  
Not illusion, just incorrect
Arkyn1 | 01/13/09
|
   
Bit Rot???
b.bob | 01/13/09
|
    
"Bit rot" COULD be an abbreviation
Ole Man | 01/13/09
|
   
I said that, Rot is probably 98% 3rd party.
TripleII | 01/13/09
|
   
Actually, the registry first appeared
alaniane@... | 01/13/09
|
  
There's a complete industry built around the illusions that bottled...
ye | 01/13/09
|
   
Yeah, I know what you mean
Ole Man | 01/13/09
|

@Ye
Axsimulate | 01/12/09
|
 
Cop out.
ye | 01/12/09
|
  
@ye
Axsimulate | 01/12/09
|
   
What bias are you referring to?
ye | 01/12/09
|
    
@ye
Axsimulate | 01/13/09
|
     
I have no Windows bias. What bias I have is limited to FUD.
ye | 01/13/09
|
     
Agreed, thats it in a nutshell
butterman.b | 01/13/09
|
     
@ye
windozefreak | 01/13/09
|
     
@zulubuck: Agreed. The question is:
ye | 01/13/09
|
     
So what ye is saying basically is..
hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 01/13/09
|
     
@ye
Axsimulate | 01/13/09
|
     
@Axsimulate: I never denied Windows systems don't slow down over time.
ye | 01/13/09
|
     
@ye
Axsimulate | 01/13/09
|
     
@Axsimulate: Do try and be honest by providing the context for which...
ye | 01/14/09
|
     
@ye
Axsimulate | 01/14/09
|
     
@Axsimulate: Now you're being dishonest the other way!
ye | 01/14/09
|
     
@ye, still in denial
Axsimulate | 01/15/09
|
     
@Axsimulate: Denial would require someone to have provided proof...
ye | 01/15/09
|
     
@ye
Axsimulate | 01/15/09
|
     
Proof by google search
rtk | 01/16/09
|
     
@rtk
Axsimulate | 01/16/09
|
    
unsubstantiated claims
b.bob | 01/13/09
|
     
Just because a bunch of clueless people say something doesn't...
ye | 01/13/09
|
     
Careful you don't get labeled a nut
Ole Man | 01/13/09
|
     
That Is Because You Are being Reasonable
Cardhu | 01/14/09
|
  
Ditto...
jasonp@... | 01/13/09
|
   
proving a negative
rtk | 01/13/09
|

It takes more than Add/Remove
chrome_slinky@... | 01/12/09
|
 
Give me some benchmarks.
ye | 01/12/09
|
  
You..............
Alan Smithie | 01/12/09
|
   
I'm not the one claiming it slows down. However I did...
ye | 01/12/09
|
    
It's.....
Alan Smithie | 01/13/09
|
  
To expand a little ...
de-void | 01/12/09
|

And what if the uninstall fails?
ashdude | 01/12/09
|
 
Just call on ye
Ole Man | 01/13/09
|
Bit Rot
danielarbib | 01/12/09
|
Single Registry File
deaf_e_kate | 01/12/09
|

Exactly
PMDubuc | 01/13/09
|
Horrible name for the problem
mikefarinha | 01/12/09
|
My experience
maalmike@... | 01/12/09
|
My experience says no
Michael Kelly | 01/12/09
|

use Avast....
JoeMama_z | 01/12/09
|
 
I converted friends to Avast a while back
deaf_e_kate | 01/13/09
|
 
AVG also has another bad habit..
Wolfie2K3 | 01/13/09
|

Avast superior in every way...
JCitizen | 01/15/09
|
Actual Case Study
RobWLA | 01/12/09
|

Government Spooks Have a Twist On Bit Rot
RobWLA | 01/12/09
|
 
And other odd hardware related wierdness...
RobWLA | 01/12/09
|
  
Yeah ...
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes | 01/12/09
|
 
S&S, not spooks
JelMin | 01/14/09
|

In a case like this ...
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes | 01/12/09
|

Not good advice ...
mwagner@... | 01/13/09
|
 
As I Said - The Unit Was Pristine
RobWLA | 01/14/09
|
Not on Linux...
Linux User 147560 | 01/12/09
|

Hrm...slightly off topic
JT82 | 01/12/09
|
 
I set her up
Linux User 147560 | 01/12/09
|
 
Sorry...
Linux User 147560 | 01/12/09
|
  
well HELL
JT82 | 01/12/09
|
   
Try this ...
MisterMiester | 01/12/09
|
    
Thanks
JT82 | 01/12/09
|
     
Just switch to root instead, no problem ...
MisterMiester | 01/12/09
|
     
Still doesnt work...
JT82 | 01/12/09
|
     
Try this...
Linux User 147560 | 01/12/09
|
     
@JT82 - Install Flash as user only ...
MisterMiester | 01/12/09
|
     
@Linux User 147560: Did I read that right?!?!?!?!
ye | 01/12/09
|
     
@ye, nothing is perfect
Michael Kelly | 01/13/09
|
     
@Michael Kelly: Yet this courtesy is never extended to Windows.
ye | 01/13/09
|
     
@Ye... the source code does not always help users
Michael Kelly | 01/13/09
|
     
Is UNIX that fragile that one needs the source code in order...
ye | 01/13/09
|
     
Yes, it was simple
Michael Kelly | 01/13/09
|
     
@Michael Kelly: Even simpler to install the pre-compiled library...
ye | 01/13/09
|
    
UNIX's version of "DLL Hell"
ye | 01/12/09
|
     
And indeed it doesn't
Yagotta B. Kidding | 01/12/09
|
     
@Yagotta B. Kidding: 64 bit version is irrelevant to the point
ye | 01/12/09
|
     
LMAO@Ye
storm14k | 01/12/09
|
     
@storm14k: Go back and read it again.
ye | 01/12/09
|
     
@Ye - Stick to what you know, mkay?
MisterMiester | 01/12/09
|
     
@MisterMiester: I am commenting on what I know.
ye | 01/12/09
|
     
@ye - You're a complete idiot ...
MisterMiester | 01/12/09
|
     
@MisterMiester: Please don't attribute your failings to me.
ye | 01/12/09
|
     
@MrMr: No 64 bit browsers for Windows?
NonZealot | 01/13/09
|
     
@NonZealot: I assume he meant to say there is no 64 bit version of Flash...
ye | 01/13/09
|
   
There's your problem
Yagotta B. Kidding | 01/12/09
|
    
Adobe has a 64-bit flash plugin available ...
MisterMiester | 01/12/09
|
     
Adobe - Fixed! (Sorta)
JT82 | 01/13/09
|
     
JT8 excellent news!
Linux User 147560 | 01/13/09
|
     
I only had trouble uninstalling the old flash..
JCitizen | 01/15/09
|

Kinda reminds me of ...
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes | 01/12/09
|
 
Dream... or
Linux User 147560 | 01/12/09
|
 
Whaaa??!?!
mikefarinha | 01/12/09
|
 
That was that thing then...
ShadowGIATL | 01/12/09
|
 
NT4 was a great OS ...
mwagner@... | 01/13/09
|
 
I bet
notsofast | 01/14/09
|
  
NT4 ran really well for us...
JCitizen | 01/15/09
|

What Linux distro are you running?
NonZealot | 01/12/09
|
 
Glad to
Yagotta B. Kidding | 01/12/09
|
  
Also true of primary keys
NonZealot | 01/12/09
|
   
You can use the "reg.exe" program to query...
ye | 01/12/09
|
   
I think I have an explanation
DannyO_0x98 | 01/12/09
|
    
Possible explanation
NonZealot | 01/13/09
|
     
Can we call an automated tester Rit the Bitrot Bot?
DannyO_0x98 | 01/13/09
|
    
Under the hood
Yagotta B. Kidding | 01/13/09
|
   
Does the registry file fragment?
deaf_e_kate | 01/13/09
|
    
re: Does the register fragment?
jklinger@... | 01/13/09
|
   
Something people seem to be missing...
DarkPhoenixFF4 | 01/13/09
|
 
I wouldn't try...
storm14k | 01/12/09
|
  
Maybe the same holds true for Windows?
NonZealot | 01/12/09
|
   
It hasn't for me at least.
storm14k | 01/12/09
|
   
Possibly
deaf_e_kate | 01/13/09
|
  
A few comments
DannyO_0x98 | 01/12/09
|
 
Explained below, how *nix does it.
TripleII | 01/12/09
|

Interesting...
ShadowGIATL | 01/12/09
|

Not comparable, IMO
notsofast | 01/14/09
|
This should be interesting.
storm14k | 01/12/09
|
Dont forget Sun!
JT82 | 01/12/09
|

Good point!
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes | 01/12/09
|
 
What's even worse...
suirauqa | 01/13/09
|

stuff on disk shouldn't slow you down
a.barry@... | 01/13/09
|
ERUNT......
JoeMama_z | 01/12/09
|

Forgotten about ERUNT ...
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes | 01/12/09
|
Don't install junkware
No_Ax_to_Grind | 01/12/09
|

Friends don't let friends
Yagotta B. Kidding | 01/12/09
|
What I do
kokuryu | 01/12/09
|
wierd, there were 8 talkbacks 5 minutes ago
deaf_e_kate | 01/12/09
|

Server seems to be suffering code rot!
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes | 01/12/09
|
 
Thanks, all seems well again
deaf_e_kate | 01/13/09
|
 
There you go - Evidence of other OS bit-rot
AndyCee | 01/13/09
|
Talkback not working...
storm14k | 01/12/09
|

I've infomed the powers that be ...
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes | 01/12/09
|
xperf tool can tell you what's causing the boot delay
john.50 | 01/12/09
|
Bit Rot is Definitely Real
Sanchola | 01/12/09
|
My experience with Ubuntu
pjotr123 | 01/12/09
|
Code Rot in Windows
genefitz1976 | 01/12/09
|
A few things to note:
CobraA1 | 01/12/09
|
;
deaf_e_kate | 01/12/09
|
Adrian; Excellent!
Kromaethius | 01/12/09
|
Not with proper package management.
MisterMiester | 01/12/09
|
Windows bit-rot
Axsimulate | 01/12/09
|

Maybe NTFS...
LiquidLearner | 01/12/09
|
 
@LiquidLearner
Axsimulate | 01/13/09
|
I think code rot does happen...
Sleeper Service | 01/12/09
|
You forgot hard drive rot
zmud | 01/12/09
|

Then why don't my Linux boxes slow down?
Chad_z | 01/12/09
|
 
Drives in windows boxes
TedKraan | 01/13/09
|
  
got a source
rtk | 01/13/09
|
   
Not a study if you are looking for that..
TedKraan | 01/13/09
|
    
LOL! A gut feeling? You expect us to believe your gut?
ye | 01/14/09
|
     
Who is 'us'?
TedKraan | 01/14/09
|
     
@TedKraan: Anyone with an ounce of intelligence. (nt)
ye | 01/14/09
|
     
So..
TedKraan | 01/15/09
|
Well in my experience being a Mac guy.....
James Quinn | 01/12/09
|
I agree
NStalnecker | 01/12/09
|
It is fact.
Bozzer | 01/12/09
|
Something wrong with the article.
Bozzer | 01/12/09
|

Powers that be are on the case ...
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes | 01/12/09
|
Multiple applications
dcbatchelor | 01/12/09
|
Adrian, you should get this...
chrome_slinky@... | 01/12/09
|

In your testing ...
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes | 01/12/09
|
 
Here Is your answer
Alan Smithie | 01/12/09
|

The registry has a VERY good reason to exist ...
de-void | 01/12/09
|
 
Linux and other operating systems
david.ward | 01/12/09
|
  
Windows programs can!
ye | 01/13/09
|
   
Maybe not now
Yagotta B. Kidding | 01/13/09
|
    
Irrelevant. What Microsoft requests and what developers can do...
ye | 01/13/09
|
  
Actually...
ShadowGIATL | 01/13/09
|
 
Sadly...
storm14k | 01/12/09
|
  
What leads you to believe this is something enforced by Windows?
ye | 01/13/09
|
   
On which system are applications written in this manner?
storm14k | 01/13/09
|
    
I would assume both. Though I assume not very common...
ye | 01/13/09
|
  
Good point
TedKraan | 01/14/09
|

Gnome based Linux distros have a registry like file
deaf_e_kate | 01/13/09
|
 
Brought to you by....
storm14k | 01/13/09
|
  
thats why i avoid Gnome based Distros
deaf_e_kate | 01/13/09
|
 
That's correct
Alan Smithie | 01/13/09
|
Re :What?s the best way to prevent code rot?
Alan Smithie | 01/12/09
|
All Windows machines slow down over time.
Amelioration | 01/12/09
|
Take for example......iTunes
daMan25 | 01/12/09
|

Have yet to have a problem with iTunes.....
James Quinn | 01/13/09
|
 
iTunes is an excellent example of "Windows rot".
ye | 01/13/09
|
  
Rot"ten" to the core
deaf_e_kate | 01/13/09
|
   
I don't recall. It's not currently on this system so...
ye | 01/13/09
|
  
Nonsense ... I won't hear it ... APPLE RULES ... laaaaahhhhllaaaahhhllahhhh
de-void | 01/19/09
|
 
Dude.....
daMan25 | 01/13/09
|
  
Itunes use DRM (so I am told, I've never used it)
Ole Man | 01/13/09
|
   
Funny....
ShadowGIATL | 01/14/09
|

DRM?
Ole Man | 01/13/09
|
 
I wish...DRM would eat your posts.(nt)
ShadowGIATL | 01/14/09
|
 
In order to comply with laws defined by your government
de-void | 01/19/09
|
  
Not MY Government!
Ole Man | 01/27/09
|
stupid zdnet
JT82 | 01/12/09
|
Cost of Time
sparkfarmer | 01/12/09
|

Uh...
Sleeper Service | 01/12/09
|
Great comments so far
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes | 01/12/09
|

Adrian
Alan Smithie | 01/12/09
|
 
Negative...
ShadowGIATL | 01/13/09
|
  
Ah you miss the point
Alan Smithie | 01/13/09
|
   
No...
ShadowGIATL | 01/13/09
|
    
Given the choice
Alan Smithie | 01/14/09
|
     
This is already happening
de-void | 01/14/09
|
Very real
LiquidLearner | 01/12/09
|

On a side note...
LiquidLearner | 01/12/09
|
 
Best way is..........
Alan Smithie | 01/12/09
|
 
Re: On a side note...
zeblonite | 01/13/09
|
Patch, patch, patch
Chad_z | 01/12/09
|
Right on - Good Job
piiturbo | 01/12/09
|
That's not a bug
Yagotta B. Kidding | 01/12/09
|
Windows bit-rot: fiction.
DarienHawk67 | 01/12/09
|

Windows bit-rot:Non-Fiction
MyMac | 01/13/09
|
It may not be registry related
wolf_z | 01/12/09
|
Bit rot is completely the wrong term.
V@... | 01/12/09
|
Bit rot = BS
Dorkyman | 01/12/09
|
Then don't turn off the machine
Randalllind | 01/12/09
|
George Ou and Ed Bott will disagree, but...
nizuse | 01/12/09
|

Ed Will...
Alan Smithie | 01/13/09
|
 
Its ok...
ShadowGIATL | 01/13/09
|
  
Until.....
Alan Smithie | 01/14/09
|
   
They were fighting way before there was oil.(nt)
ShadowGIATL | 01/14/09
|
   
Nope...
zeblonite | 02/02/09
|

Ole Man | 01/13/09
|
Evidently my Vista disk was loaded with preservatives...
kanati | 01/12/09
|

Not the only one
honeymonster | 01/12/09
|
 
perhaps Windows itself is the problem
skraf | 01/13/09
|

Consider yourself lucky
Ole Man | 01/13/09
|
 
There is nothing wrong...
ShadowGIATL | 01/13/09
|
  
Since when are you moderator here?
Ole Man | 01/14/09
|
   
I'm not a moderator.
ShadowGIATL | 01/14/09
|
    
Didn't think you were
Ole Man | 01/14/09
|
     
Hmm...
ShadowGIATL | 01/14/09
|
     
Let not thine heart be troubled
Ole Man | 01/27/09
|
 
What's luck got to do with it?
kanati | 01/14/09
|
  
Forget luck! Consider yourself smart
Ole Man | 01/14/09
|
   
That is the problem.
ShadowGIATL | 01/14/09
|
    
Talk about hypocrisy
Ole Man | 01/27/09
|
   
Why thank you, I will.
kanati | 01/14/09
|

faster ????
digitrog | 01/15/09
|
 
Got that one covered
kanati | 01/16/09
|
Hardware issue?
Spats30 | 01/12/09
|
Bitrot is a fact
Godrunner | 01/12/09
|
You forgot one: Using Virtual machines
markbn | 01/12/09
|
Bit Rot et all.
TripleII | 01/12/09
|
Bit-rot is fiction.
Lerianis | 01/12/09
|

Didn't you just define what it is?
TripleII | 01/13/09
|
Storage fatigue? Absolutly yes!
koby@... | 01/12/09
|
Also, look at defragmenting
Lerianis | 01/12/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
kakman1@... | 01/13/09
|
This is why you should benchmark your system
surfasb | 01/13/09
|
A functioning Windows PC for non-techies
deaf_e_kate | 01/13/09
|
winSxS directory can be a cause as well
chips@... | 01/13/09
|
Question: Registry and dot Net
Alan Smithie | 01/13/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
rvjcallanan | 01/13/09
|
Linux does not rot
scott1329 | 01/13/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
erikswanson | 01/13/09
|
Wow, what a bad article!
Narg | 01/13/09
|

What is so funny...
suirauqa | 01/13/09
|
Reversing it doesn't take that much
butler360 | 01/13/09
|
Horrible, and preventable
SteveMak | 01/13/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
melindab@... | 01/13/09
|
Is a fact!
jadjkorn64 | 01/13/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
wizardgdog@... | 01/13/09
|
Leo Laport...
dmacnevin | 01/13/09
|

Dunno about that often . . .
CobraA1 | 01/13/09
|
 
Completely agree
de-void | 01/14/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
mwagner@... | 01/13/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
ahumeniy | 01/13/09
|
Uninstall completeness test
pwatson | 01/13/09
|
Very Good Article!
XweAponX | 01/13/09
|
Win-rot does exist, never heard it called code-rot
ron@... | 01/13/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
dimonic | 01/13/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
tymiles | 01/13/09
|
Windows registry is the root of all (this) evil
softwareFlunky | 01/13/09
|

full marks to Linux
badders46 | 01/13/09
|
 
I like Linux too
symbolset | 01/13/09
|
14.65 second boot in vista
Spiritusindomit@... | 01/13/09
|
How do you fix this if it is the problem?
20kwfence | 01/13/09
|

I believe that was me.
ye | 01/13/09
|
 
Good point
20kwfence | 01/13/09
|
  
Try "autoruns":
ye | 01/13/09
|

Do you have a time machine ?
Alan Smithie | 01/13/09
|
 
But he does it so goooood!
Ole Man | 01/13/09
|
  
What's up with the attacks
20kwfence | 01/13/09
|
   
My apologies to you, 20kwfence
Ole Man | 01/13/09
|
  
Hey borat
rtk | 01/13/09
|
   
Greetings caitiff!
Ole Man | 01/14/09
|
 
Something stinks alright
20kwfence | 01/13/09
|
  
These are pretty relavant facts
Alan Smithie | 01/13/09
|
   
Better still ...
de-void | 01/14/09
|
    
"then ... reinstall XP / Vista / Win7"
Ole Man | 01/14/09
|
     
I think the WGA is working as it should.
ShadowGIATL | 01/14/09
|
   
Funny you mention that...
20kwfence | 01/16/09
|
Reason 'code rot' is more noticable....
Spiritusindomit@... | 01/13/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
Mr. Tinker | 01/13/09
|
Ed is amazingly quiet.
TripleII | 01/13/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
dimonic | 01/13/09
|
1st was virus, then trojans, then worms, then...
Gradius2 | 01/13/09
|
NEED AN ANSWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TRCIV | 01/13/09
|

It was there...
sjbinaz | 01/13/09
|
No firewall, no anti-virus
Tony R. | 01/13/09
|
Universal Windows Issue
**owly** | 01/13/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
TheVinesKid | 01/13/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
craigd@... | 01/13/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
remoulton | 01/13/09
|
reinstall every 6 months
willyu | 01/13/09
|

One easy answer
Ole Man | 01/13/09
|
 
Linux Mint 6 "Felicia" now available.
joe.smetona@... | 01/22/09
|
The best way to avoid all that simple: install Linux...
xunil skcor | 01/13/09
|

You tell the truth...
ShadowGIATL | 01/15/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
rbyman | 01/13/09
|
Bit-Rot: FACT Easy fix!
boogie2277@... | 01/13/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
gjjacob@... | 01/13/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
William H Sr | 01/13/09
|
Real issue for many years but not unique to just Microsoft OS
me-a4@... | 01/13/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
erniem1970@... | 01/13/09
|

This is worrying
Alan(UK) | 01/13/09
|
 
"am I missing something here?"
Ole Man | 01/13/09
|
  
sure sure
rtk | 01/13/09
|
   
"and linux is a command line only, right?"
Alan(UK) | 01/14/09
|
   
Yep, you see me crying about the "command line"
Ole Man | 01/14/09
|
  
Interestingly....
ShadowGIATL | 01/14/09
|
   
"I have never had any issues with this"
Ole Man | 01/14/09
|
    
I hope I never go where you are or where you been.(nt)
ShadowGIATL | 01/14/09
|
     
Don't worry!
Ole Man | 01/27/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
p.bristow@... | 01/13/09
|

My socratic feline asks why Itouch is nimble while PC always has hairballs
heldCaptiveByCats | 01/13/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
samson_10314@... | 01/13/09
|

Finally fast is a ripoff...
JCitizen | 01/15/09
|
 
Finally fast
samson_10314@... | 01/16/09
|
  
I forgot to mention...
JCitizen | 01/16/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
sykandtyed | 01/13/09
|
RE: Registry and crap uninstalls is the root cause
ja4509 | 01/13/09
|

Agree with main story and this...
Psymon FC | 01/13/09
|
Wow and I mean Wowwww!!!!
ja4509 | 01/13/09
|

Chasing Viruses does get tiring.
joe.smetona@... | 01/20/09
|
 
I call BS
rtk | 01/20/09
|
  
I've confirmed it with other posters in the past.
joe.smetona@... | 01/20/09
|
   
Other posers? Well, then it must be true.
rtk | 01/20/09
|
    
Actually...
joe.smetona@... | 01/21/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
Aesculapian | 01/13/09
|
Not Bit Rot, mostly cludge from poorly designed installers
digitrog | 01/13/09
|
Proper Maintenance
Crestview | 01/13/09
|
Definitely Real in Windows
jpr75_z | 01/13/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact
Altotus | 01/13/09
|
I Routinely...
melekali | 01/13/09
|
Windows bit-rot - Fact!
tracy anne | 01/13/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
pebear | 01/13/09
|
if your careful bit-rot doesn't have to happen
tech_walker | 01/13/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
a.barry@... | 01/13/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
AnimlNitr8 | 01/13/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
RGismondi@... | 01/13/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
jmarotto | 01/13/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
pcevilgenius | 01/13/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
johnnyf | 01/14/09
|
Not just Bit-Rod - also heat stress
james_linde | 01/14/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
suemccartin | 01/14/09
|
A fundamental feature of Windows?
JelMin | 01/14/09
|
It happens to me all the time
voska1 | 01/14/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
pratttech | 01/14/09
|
Bit-rot : FACT (Windows fault - don't know about that)
*Gman* | 01/14/09
|

I agree completely.
sjbinaz | 01/14/09
|
Bit-rot. Yup, pretty much Windows-centric.
Mitch 74 | 01/14/09
|
unacceptable
trenchsol | 01/14/09
|

Which OS does that? I'm not aware of any.
ye | 01/14/09
|
 
Windows Does that
jrc1883@... | 01/14/09
|
  
Windows doesn't do that.
ye | 01/14/09
|
  
I agree 100%
NonZealot | 01/14/09
|
  
Not a fair comparison really
TedKraan | 01/15/09
|
Best Linux advertisment in years...
joe.smetona@... | 01/14/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
rsn10100 | 01/14/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
atari8bit@... | 01/14/09
|
Another culprit: WFP/SFC -kill it.
joe.smetona@... | 01/15/09
|
The Registry is the sess pool!
reapur | 01/15/09
|
bit-Rot fix = MFT issues !
aloka | 01/16/09
|

I agree.
joe.smetona@... | 01/16/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
rMatey | 01/16/09
|
RE: Windows bit-rot - fact or fiction?
monolithm | 01/17/09
|
Another cause, not addressed.
joe.smetona@... | 01/19/09
|
Breaking story, Theft of 100 million credit debit card accounts. Card-Rot.
joe.smetona@... | 01/20/09
|

Way to stay on topic, Joe.
rtk | 01/20/09
|
 
Not on topic?
joe.smetona@... | 01/21/09
|
  
yup, not on topic.
rtk | 01/21/09
|
   
Attack Vector
joe.smetona@... | 01/21/09
|
    
My dog's breath
rtk | 01/21/09
|
I got it. All good reasons, but how about this?
joe.smetona@... | 01/21/09
|

your tin foil hat isn't thick enough
rtk | 01/21/09
|
 
Do the math.
joe.smetona@... | 01/22/09
|
Windows grossly inadequate.
joe.smetona@... | 01/26/09
|

Sounds like your flash drive
rtk | 01/26/09
|
 
It is a Windows problem.
joe.smetona@... | 01/26/09
|
  
Maybe
rtk | 01/26/09
|
   
I was going to suggest that.
joe.smetona@... | 01/27/09
|
    
Can't replicate
rtk | 01/27/09
|
     
I'm using XP pro.
joe.smetona@... | 01/29/09
|
File order a.k.a. thorough defrag
tenter1 | 02/08/09
|
Fact!
FireThorn | 02/08/09
|