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Hi:

I can only comment on the boot time and Passmark tests. The boot time differences aren't significant to me. But, how do you get any of the builds to boot so fast? I'm pretty good at getting fast boots on a very capable machine, but nothing like what you can.

The differences you show for the Passmark tests also would be insignificant (and likely unnoticeable) to me. This observation probably would generalize to the Passmark subtests for me.

Still, I am very interested in the Passmark difference for "fully-patched" Vista RTM and Vista SP1. Can you account for this difference? Did you patch beyond what is available in SP1? Does your use of "fully patched" imply that RTM was updated for both all security and all functionality fixes. Also, was Vista SP1 a slip streamed version?

As I recall, fully-patched does not imply "same as" SP1. If true, then, controlling for what I was getting at in the prior paragraph, it seems to me that the worse than RTM result for SP1 must be a function of the incremental "fixes" contained in SP1. Do you have any insightful thoughts?

Best, Znod
Posted by: Donnie Bill   Posted on: 12/11/08  (Edited: 12/11/2008 @ 12:49) You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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