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True, but Vista is still a bloated mess
I see brand new systems that still run like crap with Vista on them. It's just way too much eye candy and a confusing mess when compared to XP or 2000.
Posted by: GoPower   Posted on: 11/18/08 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use
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I have to disagree.  ye | 11/18/08
I agree  MyLord | 11/18/08
I agree...  Sleeper Service | 11/18/08
I agree as well...  TedKraan | 11/19/08
Right on the money  SteveMak | 11/19/08
MS is innovation that pushes boundaries  mrjoctave@... | 11/19/08
But that's nothing new ...  mwagner@... | 11/19/08
Exactly (NT)  balaknair | 11/19/08
That, and NOT getting source code out in time for driver updates at launch  drprodny | 11/19/08
Still missing the point  mrjoctave@... | 11/20/08
True, but Vista is still a bloated mess  GoPower | 11/18/08
I see brand new system that run like crap with  s_souche | 11/18/08
I don't get...  914four | 11/19/08
Can you please provide.....  xuniL_z | 11/18/08
I think you'll be waiting a long time, xunil_z  Sleeper Service | 11/18/08
bloat sub systems  s_souche | 11/18/08
I still don't understand why you consider  xuniL_z | 11/19/08
i consider it bloat  s_souche | 11/19/08
i like the or part  mrjoctave@... | 11/19/08
I don't believe indexing is on by default when you install Vista.  xuniL_z | 11/19/08
He can't. Just look at Murph and his anti-Windows blogs...  transposeIT | 11/18/08
One man's bloat ...  thomasak001 | 11/19/08
True enough....  xuniL_z | 11/19/08
DRM  914four | 11/19/08
Funny thing ....  xuniL_z | 11/19/08
For your reading pleasure ...  914four | 11/19/08
Please. Gutmann's "theories" have been thoroughly  xuniL_z | 11/19/08
You Mean From Micro$haft Apologists Ed Bott and Paul Therrott, Fanboi?  drprodny | 11/19/08
ok, how about  rtk | 11/20/08
How about a HP Media Center PC m8000n, M$FT Fanboi?  drprodny | 11/19/08
THIS ONE IS A JOKER  mrjoctave@... | 11/20/08
I have too -- mainly systems with ...  mwagner@... | 11/19/08
what percentage of the early machines were affected?  eggmanbubbagee@... | 11/18/08
Couldn't have said it better myself *nt*  mikefarinha | 11/18/08
I disagree.  Sleeper Service | 11/18/08
I disagree sleep  mrjoctave@... | 11/20/08
I wuz a sistem desiner too  Ole Man | 11/20/08
Is that literal sarcasm  mrjoctave@... | 11/20/08
My middle name is truble  Ole Man | 11/21/08
OF COURSE NOT.  magallanes | 11/19/08
Don't blame just the retailers and the press,  balaknair | 11/19/08
Same old story  mrjoctave@... | 11/20/08
Such xpurtese is indeed impressive  Ole Man | 11/20/08
Thats when u know u got them stumped  mrjoctave@... | 11/20/08
I know........  Ole Man | 11/21/08
So?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/18/08
The "Vista Capable" thing was just a bait-and-switch trick.  Henrik Moller | 11/18/08
It won't hurt the hardware vendors as much  Michael Kelly | 11/18/08
According to the article...  914four | 11/19/08
Actually...  Wolfie2K3 | 11/19/08
Or by making a conscious decision...  914four | 11/19/08
HP was ready for Vista  bfilipiak@... | 11/19/08
It's just my opinion...  914four | 11/19/08
Be Specific  mrjoctave@... | 11/20/08
RE: The day Microsoft killed the  gnesterenko | 11/18/08
Considering that most people  frgough | 11/18/08
but most people don't write tech blogs  eggmanbubbagee@... | 11/18/08
So? most people don't read tech blogs  TedKraan | 11/19/08
No... But MOST people have a "geek"...  Wolfie2K3 | 11/19/08
Yep, we're all brainwashed by the evil media  John L. Ries | 11/19/08
How Did Sarah Palin Creep Onto ZD/Net Blogs, Anyway?  drprodny | 11/19/08
True...  TedKraan | 11/20/08
Geek is used to frequently....  mrjoctave@... | 11/20/08
I wuz a new age geek to  Ole Man | 11/20/08
Or...  balaknair | 11/19/08
Yeah.. But...  Wolfie2K3 | 11/19/08
don't forget  s_souche | 11/18/08
Who requires posters here to be unbiased?  Ole Man | 11/18/08
corrections  s_souche | 11/18/08
To be or not to be.... that is the question  Ole Man | 11/19/08
The HP email is very telling...  dkawalec | 11/18/08
So pray tell  frgough | 11/18/08
HP has a history of putting more...  914four | 11/19/08
In terms of the "vista capable" lawsuit...  xuniL_z | 11/18/08
WRONG  itanalyst2@... | 11/18/08
Very subjective.  xuniL_z | 11/18/08
If I bought a fridge...  914four | 11/19/08
There's a BIG difference though...  Wolfie2K3 | 11/19/08
sticker  merc2dogs` | 11/19/08
For the manufacturer to apply the sticker,  914four | 11/19/08
It takes a confident person to...  ye | 11/18/08
Darn...  914four | 11/19/08
No.. Some intelligence is required  mrjoctave@... | 11/19/08
luks lak you luked up  Ole Man | 11/20/08
Same old flim-flam tricks  Ole Man | 11/18/08
Show me an innocent company  mrjoctave@... | 11/20/08
We have all sinned and come short  Ole Man | 11/20/08
hehehe  mrjoctave@... | 11/20/08
ha ha ha  Ole Man | 11/21/08
Vista was all marketing, no engineering  terry flores | 11/18/08
Could you kindly provide.....  xuniL_z | 11/18/08
Why ask about RAM?  storm14k | 11/18/08
What's even more funny is watching...  ye | 11/18/08
"Why ask about RAM"  xuniL_z | 11/18/08
Thank you (RAM commentary)  philipralban@... | 11/18/08
You are right, there was an awakening during that time....  xuniL_z | 11/18/08
This article gives us some insight.  ye | 11/18/08
That's a nice spin  TedKraan | 11/19/08
@Ye, do you have any good evidence of that?  xuniL_z | 11/19/08
@Ted  xuniL_z | 11/19/08
xun...  914four | 11/19/08
"Stagnation. No one wants to change"  Ole Man | 11/18/08
Very well put (last paragraph)  Ole Man | 11/18/08
My right  mrjoctave@... | 11/19/08
How does dumb users influence your OS?  Ole Man | 11/20/08
Look in the mirror  mrjoctave@... | 11/20/08
examples of real works in progress?  Ole Man | 11/21/08
Or filesystems?  914four | 11/19/08
I agree. MS knew winFS was dead years ago.  xuniL_z | 11/19/08
He can't cause he's not using it... That's what ABMers are for...nt  transposeIT | 11/18/08
What are you on about?  DiZastur | 11/19/08
I disagree  Why_Not_Me | 11/19/08
No, the problem was it was all engineering and no marketing  PB_z | 11/18/08
It Doesn't Matter In The End  itanalyst2@... | 11/18/08
As to your question.  xuniL_z | 11/18/08
Not My Problem  itanalyst2@... | 11/18/08
Why would they need to buy a copy of XP?  ye | 11/18/08
"There are still a lot of ME users out there"  Ole Man | 11/18/08
Oh boy, where to begin?  914four | 11/19/08
In some what unrelated news ....  ShadeTree | 11/18/08
But, but, but...this is different happy nt  ye | 11/18/08
Good grief!  Ole Man | 11/18/08
Or see their paid for movies.  Sleeper Service | 11/19/08
No no no you're spinning it all wrong  balaknair | 11/19/08
Good one!  Ole Man | 11/19/08
Vista crashes were important too.  peter_erskine@... | 11/18/08
WiFi Connect  jwreesefam@... | 11/18/08
That's just the beginning  CobraA1 | 11/18/08
Just another...  Jeremy W | 11/18/08
An MS Product that does not suck...  SpikeyMike | 11/19/08
RE: The day Microsoft killed the  pokendeye@... | 11/19/08
Facts?  Sleeper Service | 11/19/08
For the most part, what ppl had was good enough  Boot_Agnostic | 11/19/08
HELP ME PLEASE B4 I **** SOMEONE  mrjoctave@... | 11/20/08
"MS drives the industry by demanding new technologies the others don't"  Ole Man | 11/20/08
Dumb misintrepeters  mrjoctave@... | 11/20/08
The truth really does hurts  Ole Man | 11/21/08
Do you have a degree?  Marty R. Milette | 11/22/08
Your monologue proves all my points eloquently  Ole Man | 11/23/08
Nice attempt at diversion...  Marty R. Milette | 11/23/08
Contrary to your pusillanimous posturing  Ole Man | 11/24/08
RE: The day Microsoft killed the  dongle218 | 11/19/08
If Vista had been more efficient...  John L. Ries | 11/19/08
RE: The day Microsoft killed "Vista"  mwagner@... | 11/19/08
WDDM evil-ness  magallanes | 11/19/08
The day Microsoft shot themselves in the foot...  SilverFoxLa | 11/19/08
Check out Ubuntu...  914four | 11/19/08
Agreed about Ubuntu - Though if You JUST Need Office Apps and Internet  drprodny | 11/19/08
RE: The day Microsoft killed the  deuxglass | 11/19/08
a survey of one?  stillgolfing | 11/19/08
but, but "I am a PC"  Telexer | 11/19/08
I'm waiting for  stillgolfing | 11/19/08
One size doesn't fit all...  mikifinaz1@... | 11/19/08
RE: The day Microsoft killed the  phatkat | 11/19/08
Deeply ironic ...  thomasak001 | 11/19/08
So MS is a victim of "treason"?  John L. Ries | 11/19/08
Treason is too strong a word in business ...  thomasak001 | 11/20/08
Nice cut and paste job  Ole Man | 11/20/08
RE: The day Microsoft killed the  merc2dogs` | 11/19/08
Unless i read it incorrectly  mrjoctave@... | 11/19/08
Where did you read that?  914four | 11/19/08
Here u go  mrjoctave@... | 11/20/08
What time warp are you in?  Ole Man | 11/20/08
Not in your time obviously  mrjoctave@... | 11/20/08
Incredibly obvious  Ole Man | 11/21/08
RE: The day Microsoft killed the  Why_Not_Me | 11/19/08
You put the blame on buyers  Ole Man | 11/20/08
I don't blame buyers  Why_Not_Me | 11/20/08
I wouldnt worry about ole man  mrjoctave@... | 11/20/08
Good for you, mrjoctave@...  Ole Man | 11/21/08
I do blame buyers who did not even bother to notice there were two levels  Ole Man | 11/21/08
RE: The day Microsoft killed the  ramnet@... | 11/21/08
Linux could only WISH for such failure...  Marty R. Milette | 11/22/08
No no no!  Ole Man | 11/23/08
Evil Tyrant?  Marty R. Milette | 11/23/08
"Microsoft would have been out of business years ago"  Ole Man | 11/24/08
it was much more than inadequate graphics  hansonjb | 11/21/08
They caved to Intel and screwed Dell, HP  tech_walker | 11/22/08
lousy drivers and crapware hurt it even more  tech_walker | 11/22/08
RE: The day Microsoft killed the  rhochstedler@... | 11/22/08
You mean that's the reason  Ole Man | 11/23/08

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