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I'm telling you what
Buy a pc twice as fast as a mac in hardware performance terms.
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I'm telling you what  JMGM | 08/06/08
And when it stops running it's MUCH slower than  James Quinn | 08/06/08
A PC twice as fast as a Mac?  914four | 08/07/08
RE: Yes, Macs are expensive ... so what?  Loverock Davidson | 08/06/08
On average  Stuka | 08/06/08
Where are the comparative figures?  Sleeper Service | 08/06/08
Not off hand  Stuka | 08/06/08
Hmm...  Sleeper Service | 08/06/08
Seems reasonable.  ye | 08/06/08
Yeah  Stuka | 08/06/08
No midrange tower  cornpie | 08/06/08
My anecdotal evidence  Marcos El Malo | 08/06/08
Your stats don't mean much  alaniane@... | 08/07/08
And how many people out there want to do this?  James Quinn | 08/08/08
You missed the whole point of my argument  alaniane@... | 08/08/08
How often do mac users upgrade the OS?  notsofast | 08/07/08
I think you are confused....  James Quinn | 08/08/08
RE: upgrade the OS?  JakAttak | 08/12/08
In addition...  JakAttak | 08/12/08
Yep  frgough | 08/06/08
Hit by economic downturn? Oh yeah.  willyu | 08/06/08
Hasn't happened yet  Marcos El Malo | 08/06/08
well, my logic is that  willyu | 08/06/08
But that's not exactly true  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 08/07/08
Got to agree with Kid...'s comment.  awasson@... | 08/07/08
There's a difference tho...  Wolfie2K3 | 08/08/08
well there's one thing in common  zupobaloop | 08/08/08
Macs have to be expensive  LBiege | 08/06/08
you forgot to mention...  willyu | 08/06/08
This thread is getting boring...  snberk341 | 08/06/08
Macs have their problems  dave@... | 08/07/08
What does that have to do with anything?  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 08/07/08
I think what he was trying to say...  USTechHead | 08/07/08
Not a good example but...  914four | 08/07/08
Assumes much on your part...  James Quinn | 08/06/08
lower rated parts?  willyu | 08/06/08
Wrong......  James Quinn | 08/06/08
from the field  willyu | 08/06/08
Not my experience....  James Quinn | 08/06/08
Hmm...  Sleeper Service | 08/07/08
The gear maybe but the whole?  James Quinn | 08/07/08
PCs die soon lol  willpd13 | 08/07/08
DUDE!  James Quinn | 08/07/08
The only time Mac uses Laptop parts ....  ShadeTree | 08/06/08
No.....  James Quinn | 08/06/08
Ask nVidia  rtk | 08/06/08
Great now I need to ask another? How nice for you.  James Quinn | 08/06/08
I do work for a PC OEM and ....  ShadeTree | 08/07/08
you couldn't be more wrong  zupobaloop | 08/07/08
Re: Wrong  reziol | 08/07/08
Other non hardware considerations apply  Marcos El Malo | 08/06/08
All branches of PC World.  Sleeper Service | 08/06/08
irrelevant  zupobaloop | 08/07/08
Nope.  Sleeper Service | 08/06/08
PC systems you buy? Name brand please....  James Quinn | 08/06/08
Well...  Sleeper Service | 08/06/08
MESH who the heck is MESH!?!  James Quinn | 08/06/08
MESH Computer.  Sleeper Service | 08/07/08
See my response just below....  James Quinn | 08/07/08
Quality argument went out with switch to Intel  cornpie | 08/06/08
Less....  James Quinn | 08/06/08
And many computer systems...  Sleeper Service | 08/07/08
The Dell Inspereo? (Spelling?)  James Quinn | 08/07/08
@Jim  laura.b | 08/07/08
Laura....well  James Quinn | 08/07/08
@Jim  laura.b | 08/07/08
Also the insides of the MacPros are quite a bit different  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 08/07/08
I have a Movado and a TimeTech  ye | 08/06/08
I've worked with both for decades now....  James Quinn | 08/06/08
It is not laziness!  Jeremy W | 08/06/08
It's not laziness, it's sheer stupidity...  reziol | 08/07/08
I've worked with both for decades too.  ye | 08/07/08
See Jeremy W's response above  James Quinn | 08/07/08
I've already read it.  ye | 08/07/08
Well what do you do?  James Quinn | 08/07/08
@James Quinn: What do you mean what do I do?  ye | 08/07/08
Well I was just wondering if that would explain  James Quinn | 08/07/08
@James Quinn: Highly unlikely.  ye | 08/07/08
All I can tell you is what we do here and what  James Quinn | 08/07/08
It is all about productivity.  Bruizer | 08/06/08
Incorrect.  Sleeper Service | 08/07/08
Apple makes more per unit than Dell or HP  GoPower | 08/06/08
It's not just the hardware!!!  Userama | 08/06/08
Yes and no...  Sleeper Service | 08/06/08
best OS in the land?  willyu | 08/06/08
I get something from a PC, I can never get from a Mac  alaniane@... | 08/08/08
because you can build your own  zupobaloop | 08/08/08
Prystar made it obvious Macs are over priced  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/06/08
Not even close.....  James Quinn | 08/06/08
What an absurd argument  markbn | 08/06/08
James Quinn has a good argument  Axsimulate | 08/06/08
No confusion here  markbn | 08/06/08
See my responses to WIlyu both above and below  James Quinn | 08/06/08
I saw them and ...  markbn | 08/06/08
Nothing in manufacturing is absolute.  James Quinn | 08/06/08
Why don't you stop making bogus arguments?  markbn | 08/06/08
Yeah right....  James Quinn | 08/06/08
Learn to read  markbn | 08/07/08
You do go on so.......  James Quinn | 08/07/08
RE: You do go on so.......  markbn | 08/07/08
Tune in next week same bat channel same bat time  James Quinn | 08/07/08
RE; Tune in next week same bat channel same bat time  markbn | 08/07/08
i assume by standard parts you have "inside"  James Quinn | 08/07/08
Re: i assume by standard parts you have "inside"  markbn | 08/07/08
Just because a part is defective does not mean  James Quinn | 08/07/08
One more time  markbn | 08/08/08
Good Luck on Getting Tech Support  Marcos El Malo | 08/06/08
Marcos el confundido  markbn | 08/06/08
Please assure us with facts and not "because I say so"  ye | 08/06/08
Superior rated parts that do the same job as lower  James Quinn | 08/06/08
yeah  markbn | 08/06/08
The Apple III really that is your argument here!?!  James Quinn | 08/06/08
Most PCs I've used run whispher quiet too.  ye | 08/07/08
Are you kidding....  James Quinn | 08/07/08
@James Quinn: No, I'm not kidding you.  ye | 08/07/08
I'll give you the G5...:P  James Quinn | 08/07/08
The burden is on you to prove PCs are more noisy.  ye | 08/07/08
I gave you a valid counterexample  markbn | 08/07/08
Ye and the other guy....:P  James Quinn | 08/07/08
In my experience  Axsimulate | 08/07/08
@James Quinn: Yes Jim. I'm well aware that you're saying it.  ye | 08/07/08
HAHAHAHA "pagan jim"  zupobaloop | 08/07/08
RE: Ye and the other guy....:P  markbn | 08/07/08
Zupaloopa? and the other guy....  James Quinn | 08/07/08
I was not explicit enough  markbn | 08/07/08
And again i applaud Jobs and Apple for learning  James Quinn | 08/07/08
I repeat: Please assure us with facts and not "because I say so" (nt)  ye | 08/07/08
"premium" parts?  longbongsilver | 08/07/08
moreover, it's irrelevant  zupobaloop | 08/07/08
Monopoly  Axsimulate | 08/06/08
You better read Judge Jackson's ruling.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 08/06/08
Give me a url  Axsimulate | 08/06/08
Here you go  laura.b | 08/07/08
RE: Here you go  Axsimulate | 08/07/08
Although I agree with your conclusions  alaniane@... | 08/07/08
But  laura.b | 08/07/08
@laura.b  Axsimulate | 08/08/08
@alaniane  Axsimulate | 08/08/08
I'm not really sure how many times this needs said  laura.b | 08/11/08
Apple, with 8% market share a monopoly?  Ken_z | 08/06/08
laughing  rparker009 | 08/06/08
RE: laughing  Axsimulate | 08/07/08
I always love how  frgough | 08/06/08
And you can get Ultimate...  Sleeper Service | 08/06/08
To sum up  frgough | 08/06/08
Incorrect....  Sleeper Service | 08/06/08
That seems to be the case (n/t)  markbn | 08/06/08
oops  markbn | 08/06/08
RE: Yes, Macs are expensive ... so what?  Conservationist | 08/06/08
Sure they do  Userama | 08/06/08
not really...  willyu | 08/06/08
Exactly  Conservationist | 08/06/08
yes really...  ~Obelix~ | 08/06/08
*nix? *nix???  willyu | 08/07/08
XWindows runs fine on Unix/Linux  alaniane@... | 08/07/08
Have you tried an Eee PC?  914four | 08/07/08
The last I heard  alaniane@... | 08/07/08
Other reasons to buy Macs  Ken_z | 08/06/08
Macs are well-priced and people buy them up!  jameskatt | 08/06/08
RE: Not even close.....James Quinn  willyu | 08/06/08
Sigh...  James Quinn | 08/06/08
The other OEMs...  Sleeper Service | 08/06/08
Ah but you miss the point....  James Quinn | 08/06/08
I'm not pricing it against....  Sleeper Service | 08/07/08
Did the high end desktop share the form factor of  James Quinn | 08/07/08
Nope...  Sleeper Service | 08/07/08
Well.....  James Quinn | 08/07/08
Higher cost does not equate to better.  ye | 08/07/08
However in some cases it does...  James Quinn | 08/07/08
@James Quinn: In some cases it does. It may even apply...  ye | 08/07/08
Hard ro produce said.....  James Quinn | 08/07/08
@James Quinn: Sworn testimonials are worthless.  ye | 08/07/08
Applescript.....both on OSX and OS9  James Quinn | 08/07/08
@James Quinn: What you gave is just more of the same.  ye | 08/07/08
Oh come on Ye....  James Quinn | 08/07/08
Not all name brands are made in China  914four | 08/07/08
This "story" is all nonsense  j.m.galvin | 08/06/08
agreed  willyu | 08/06/08
It's a "troll" story, but  Marcos El Malo | 08/06/08
absolutely...  patibulo | 08/06/08
Yes, but...  Jeremy W | 08/06/08
The PC sector....  Sleeper Service | 08/07/08
Could go higher in the U.S.  j.m.galvin | 08/07/08
I would think so  laura.b | 08/07/08
re: Macs are well-priced and people...  willyu | 08/06/08
and you sound jealous  Marcos El Malo | 08/06/08
the value of money  willyu | 08/06/08
You sound bitter....  James Quinn | 08/06/08
In defense  laura.b | 08/07/08
Agreed but it goes both ways....  James Quinn | 08/07/08
Oh, agreed  laura.b | 08/07/08
Not EVERY Yugo died a horrible death  James Quinn | 08/06/08
true but if you look at this way too.  willyu | 08/06/08
So again we are not comparing Apples to Apples eh?  James Quinn | 08/06/08
Lowering the price might .....  ShadeTree | 08/06/08
Macs are over priced and overrated  marks055@... | 08/06/08
You have to pay your dues.  David Blomstrom | 08/06/08
Unlike Steve Jobs Bill Gates has given away  marks055@... | 08/06/08
LOL  David Blomstrom | 08/06/08
Sure...  Sleeper Service | 08/06/08
the LA times?! LOL  marks055@... | 08/06/08
RE: Did I save money buying and an IMac?  dicka@... | 08/06/08
Something to check out  Ken_z | 08/06/08
RE: Yes, Macs are expensive ... so what?  RIAAsucks | 08/06/08
You forgot a couple of Key points  Sphilpot | 08/06/08
What weekly maintenance do you do?  ye | 08/06/08
Maintenance  Sphilpot | 08/06/08
No need to run any of that.  ye | 08/06/08
No, I'm doing what I'm supposed to  Sphilpot | 08/06/08
That might be part of your job description. But it's not...  ye | 08/06/08
That might be part of your job description. But it's not...  Sphilpot | 08/06/08
You are working harder and not smarter.  ye | 08/07/08
FYI  zkiwi | 08/06/08
I would agree with that assessment.  914four | 08/08/08
I know you're being lame  zkiwi | 08/06/08
Not seeing your point....  Sleeper Service | 08/07/08
Personally...  zkiwi | 08/07/08
Suggestion for Maintenance  medezark@... | 08/07/08
We're already set up like that  Sphilpot | 08/07/08
And all this advice is...  zkiwi | 08/07/08
Not sure.  ye | 08/07/08
Maintenance, sure. Weekly?  laura.b | 08/07/08
60 suystem vs one...  James Quinn | 08/07/08
Of course  laura.b | 08/08/08
We have 200 Windows based PCs  alaniane@... | 08/08/08
I don't do any maintenace for my Windows  LBiege | 08/06/08
And....  Sphilpot | 08/07/08
Nice...  RocketEater | 08/07/08
So...  zkiwi | 08/07/08
My time is valuable  greg@... | 08/06/08
How about some numbers to support your assertions?  ye | 08/06/08
Erm...  zkiwi | 08/06/08
Which is exactly why I ask the question.  ye | 08/07/08
No, it's not why you ask  zkiwi | 08/07/08
LOL! So now you know my intent better than I?  ye | 08/07/08
arrogant?  zupobaloop | 08/07/08
Takes an arrogant blank to know one...:P  James Quinn | 08/07/08
Would that matter?  James Quinn | 08/06/08
Another story? How about some facts?  ye | 08/07/08
Why does it matter to you??  Sphilpot | 08/07/08
It matters because you're spreading FUD.  ye | 08/07/08
Cause your full of crap!  Sphilpot | 08/07/08
@polpot: I've heard of all of them.  ye | 08/07/08
You can't, because you are not telling the truth  zkiwi | 08/07/08
@zkiwi: Yeah, that's got to be it.  ye | 08/07/08
XP on Mac  914four | 08/08/08
So...  Goudy | 08/06/08
He said he owns the business  j.m.galvin | 08/06/08
Could be...  Sleeper Service | 08/06/08
Response to questions  greg@... | 08/06/08
Fair enough...  Sleeper Service | 08/07/08
Another vague answer.  ye | 08/07/08
Costs  Harry Bardal | 08/07/08
I keep hearing about lower TCO. But never do I see...  ye | 08/07/08
Are you not answering an "Because I said so" with  James Quinn | 08/07/08
Here's a Little Something  Harry Bardal | 08/08/08
TCO versus ROI make this VERY difficult ...  mwagner@... | 08/07/08
RE: Yes, Macs are expensive ... so what?  Sphilpot | 08/06/08
Eh?  Sleeper Service | 08/06/08
Lucky You  Sphilpot | 08/06/08
Been there.....Done that.  James Quinn | 08/06/08
OK...  Sleeper Service | 08/07/08
NO  Sphilpot | 08/07/08
Erm, at what cost?  Big_Giff | 08/07/08
Good question ...  mwagner@... | 08/07/08
Not in a mixed-shop environment ...  mwagner@... | 08/07/08
...and you were doing so well...  Big Scoddie | 08/06/08
Well I think Apples current markup is better than 30  James Quinn | 08/07/08
Can't compare apples to oranges (or PCs)  ~Obelix~ | 08/06/08
Give me any Mac's spec  LBiege | 08/06/08
Seriously. How many people actually care about this?  ye | 08/07/08
RE: Yes, Macs are expensive ... so what?  greg@... | 08/06/08
Why does it matter??  Sphilpot | 08/06/08
Doesn't matter  catalinst@... | 08/07/08
Okay you got me...  Sphilpot | 08/07/08
Another factor for international market  AndyCee | 08/06/08
Well, you get what you pay for...  esdrasf@... | 08/06/08
So What, Who Cares?  Kromaethius | 08/06/08
Prices in Romania (and most of Europe, probably)  alex_b | 08/07/08
Specs vs parts  scott1329 | 08/07/08
A small number of people wih different values  SteveMak | 08/07/08
They buy it because they're gullible  Crash2100 | 08/07/08
RE: Yes, Macs are expensive ... so what?  askmahesh@... | 08/07/08
RE: Yes, Macs are expensive ... so what?  Cubbie | 08/07/08
RE: Yes, Macs are expensive ... NO THE'RE NOT!!!  cruzdude | 08/07/08
Nonsense.  Sleeper Service | 08/07/08
At least try to make it believable.  ye | 08/07/08
People buy Macs...  GrizzledGeezer | 08/07/08
RE: Yes, Macs are expensive ... so what?  trenchsol | 08/07/08
A Real Comparison:  bcapecci | 08/07/08
You've completely missed the most important aspects...  Spiritusindomit@... | 08/07/08
I'm curious  dchase@... | 08/07/08
You've got the idea ...  mwagner@... | 08/07/08
I'd agree  dchase@... | 08/07/08
RE: Yes, Macs are expensive ... so what?  mwagner@... | 08/07/08
how MUCH of a premium is still 'cool'?  eggmanbubbagee@... | 08/07/08
Good points ...  mwagner@... | 08/07/08
Only if.....  James Quinn | 08/07/08
not just style but . .  eggmanbubbagee@... | 08/07/08
Again pricing with what?  James Quinn | 08/07/08
Very thorough and very wrong  j.m.galvin | 08/07/08
So what? More like: so you didn't expect that?  akeeyata@... | 08/07/08
The Mac's got innovation, what's the PC got?  larry@... | 08/07/08
You have to be trolling.  Sleeper Service | 08/07/08
...no, just brainwashed.  Big Scoddie | 08/07/08
I don't know which is sadder?  James Quinn | 08/07/08
PC PRESS say Macs are SUPERIOR  Davewrite | 08/07/08
*Sigh*  Sleeper Service | 08/07/08
So all these PC and Neutral magazines are Apple Fanboys?  Davewrite | 08/07/08
Man Mr. Quinn is going to have a lot of  USTechHead | 08/07/08
I'm enjoying myself....:p  James Quinn | 08/07/08
RE: Yes, Macs are expensive ... so what?  luis.pulido | 08/07/08
The Title of this Article is Wrong  lukbut_1 | 08/07/08
BMWs, Macs, etc  zupobaloop | 08/07/08
The iPhone isa great product no fantastic....:P  James Quinn | 08/07/08
consumers aren't wise  zupobaloop | 08/07/08
I can't "pully our head out of the sand."?  James Quinn | 08/07/08
read slower  zupobaloop | 08/08/08
RE: Yes, Macs are expensive ... so what?  MichaelWells | 08/07/08
RE: Yes, Macs are expensive ... so what?  alaniane@... | 08/07/08
It would be unrealistic  j.m.galvin | 08/07/08
They could...  Big_Giff | 08/07/08
In small businesses they have a chance  alaniane@... | 08/07/08
RE: Yes, Macs are expensive ... so what?  ariesghost | 08/07/08
And what does it matter?  Big_Giff | 08/07/08
Compare Apples to Apples  john_e_fish | 08/07/08
Yes, Macs are a delight.  rodney_bunt@... | 08/07/08
Everyone i want to thank you all....  James Quinn | 08/07/08
You should compare similar configurations  ivan.neva@... | 08/08/08
RE: Yes, Macs are expensive ... so what?  larchoye | 08/08/08
Expensive in more ways than one...  Narg | 08/08/08

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