Any numbers on how well (or not) Dells Linux systems are selling?
ye | 12/10/07
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PR stunt
dragosani | 12/10/07
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Man is that the truth!
Linux User 147560 | 12/10/07
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No, I give Dell credit
TripleII | 12/10/07
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I don't
dragosani | 12/10/07
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It is easy to spend someone else's money.
TripleII | 12/10/07
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Meant $1M (nt)
TripleII | 12/10/07
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Well could make them for visible on their website...
mrOSX | 12/10/07
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The are visible....
bportlock | 12/11/07
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Dell and Demand
lmenningen | 12/10/07
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You have to look at the effort
TripleII | 12/10/07
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Responding to Tripwell
daengbo | 12/11/07
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Sorry, daengbo
Ole Man | 12/11/07
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Mine is an Inspiron E1505
Update victim | 12/11/07
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They still offer RedHat ...
mwagner@... | 12/11/07
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Mistaken assumptions
gsteele531@... | 12/13/07
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"not in Dell's business interests"
Ole Man | 12/13/07
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Around 40K.
TripleII | 12/10/07
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To put it in perspective.
ShadeTree | 12/10/07
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But it's a start
Michael Kelly | 12/10/07
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Re: But it's a start
none none | 12/10/07
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Re: To put it in perspective.
none none | 12/10/07
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Linux on Dell.com hard to find? NOT!
mwagner@... | 12/11/07
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I trust you are being sarcastic
webservant2003@... | 12/11/07
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would not be so sure
agre12000@... | 12/11/07
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I trust YOU are being sarcastic
handydan918@... | 12/11/07
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" I teach online courses"
Ole Man | 12/11/07
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See post above
TripleII | 12/10/07
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And they made it real easy to buy... NOT!
lordshipmayhem | 12/11/07
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I won't buy...
Jxn | 12/15/07
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Ironically, it would probably be cheaper ...
mwagner@... | 12/11/07
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Has happened.
TripleII | 12/11/07
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If most people only knew...........
Ole Man | 12/11/07
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Dell and the subsidy
barryj@... | 12/11/07
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I haven't seen any numbers, but
Update victim | 12/11/07
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Well I guess it depends on where the numbers are from..
mrOSX | 12/10/07
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RE: Linux, cheap PCs and the effect this will have on Microsoft
Destnaru | 12/10/07
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Vista is optimised for SSD.
ShadeTree | 12/10/07
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Yes and no
nucrash | 12/10/07
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2 drives
mandehu@... | 12/12/07
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Re: Vista is optimised for SSD.
none none | 12/10/07
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Hybrid drives!
ShadeTree | 12/11/07
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Gotta be careful with that, though...
masonwheeler | 12/11/07
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Solid-State Drives have been around ...
mwagner@... | 12/11/07
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The bulk of the PCs that sell ...
ShadeTree | 12/11/07
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Yeah, right.
itpro_z | 12/10/07
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fake numbers
Linux Geek | 12/10/07
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Hits on search engines
j.m.galvin | 12/10/07
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Wrong their stats
alaniane@... | 12/11/07
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Thanks for the low-down
Ole Man | 12/11/07
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So show us some numbers
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/10/07
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Numbers
super_J | 12/10/07
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If you are corrent about the numbers being...
mrOSX | 12/10/07
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See my answer below(nt).
ShadeTree | 12/10/07
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Check the article.
rtk | 12/10/07
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Doesn't matter at all.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/10/07
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Yes, it is a problem for MS if you replace Windows with Linux. It reduces
DonnieBoy | 12/10/07
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Fool, very few people use Linux as a Desktop OS
markbn | 12/10/07
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RE: Fool, very few people use Linux as a Desktop OS
sir_cheats_alot@... | 12/10/07
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RE: Fool, very few people use Linux as a Desktop OS
markbn | 12/10/07
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markbn - new troll on the block?
Don Collins | 12/12/07
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Message has been deleted.
markbn | 12/12/07
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Just because ...
markbn | 12/13/07
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Cheap and better
r_ranjith@... | 12/12/07
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RE: Fool, very few people use Linux as a Desktop OS
joe6pack_z | 12/10/07
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RE: Fool, very few people use Linux as a Desktop OS
markbn | 12/10/07
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prime time
fortboffin@... | 12/11/07
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Fool
TristanGrimaux | 12/11/07
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The point I made is that MS DOES care if a signifcant portion were to
DonnieBoy | 12/10/07
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Of course MS does care ...
markbn | 12/10/07
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Still, MS IS worried. They fight tooth and nail to try to deny Linux and
DonnieBoy | 12/11/07
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Re: Fool, very few people use Linux as a Desktop OS
none none | 12/10/07
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Re: Fool, very few people use Linux as a Desktop OS
markbn | 12/10/07
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A fool and his money are soon parted
Ole Man | 12/11/07
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Who is the fool?
markbn | 12/11/07
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@ markbn
Ole Man | 12/12/07
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Get a clue
markbn | 12/12/07
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The clue is yours to get
Ole Man | 12/13/07
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What I get ...
markbn | 12/13/07
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It's good enough if not better already
voska | 12/11/07
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Doesn't quite add up
Ole Man | 12/11/07
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Linux will not penetrate the market if it ...
mwagner@... | 12/11/07
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The only ones who think Linux is a Windows clone
Ole Man | 12/11/07
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Very true, I am probably counted as a Windows user since all of the laptops
DonnieBoy | 12/10/07
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Are you kidding?
Ole Man | 12/11/07
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That would be true if they were sales numbers ....
ShadeTree | 12/10/07
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Re: That would be true if they were sales numbers ....
none none | 12/10/07
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Do you have anything meaningfull to add?
ShadeTree | 12/11/07
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You have to consider
Ole Man | 12/11/07
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Here's the methodology
alaniane@... | 12/11/07
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Here's the link
alaniane@... | 12/11/07
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Depends on who buys them
j.m.galvin | 12/10/07
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Yes, there is a lot of low hanging fruit in some companies, especially call
DonnieBoy | 12/10/07
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Enterprise market
itpro_z | 12/10/07
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Sigh
markbn | 12/10/07
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That is to ignoire all of the progress made by FireFox, Linux, and
DonnieBoy | 12/10/07
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Make up your mind...
markbn | 12/10/07
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The battle is on a lot of different fronts. It is NOT and either/or
DonnieBoy | 12/11/07
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Battle? This is not a war! Are you in drugs or what?
markbn | 12/11/07
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Another point you are missing. Do know how man call center like situations
DonnieBoy | 12/10/07
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Irrelevant to my post (n/t)
markbn | 12/10/07
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No, it is very relevant. Call center and similar type applications is one
DonnieBoy | 12/11/07
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As I said, this has nothing to do with Linux
markbn | 12/11/07
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Only because your post is irrelevant (NT)
Ole Man | 12/11/07
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Not as irrelevant as your existence (n/t)
markbn | 12/11/07
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Hey.... markbn
Ole Man | 12/11/07
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Everybody is watching you too
markbn | 12/11/07
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You do not need Linux for that
markbn | 12/11/07
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I agree, but....
itpro_z | 12/10/07
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Sigh...
thungurknifur | 12/12/07
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Yup, the A$$hat called thungurknifur
markbn | 12/12/07
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Don't give him too much credit.......
Ole Man | 12/13/07
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Yes, you have neither
markbn | 12/13/07
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Re: Depends on who buys them
none none | 12/10/07
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Please reread my post
j.m.galvin | 12/11/07
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College-aged mindshare
techboy_z | 12/10/07
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Those same college students will get a job and go to work ....
ShadeTree | 12/10/07
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Depends on the college
itpro_z | 12/10/07
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Not much of an effect
nwoodson@... | 12/10/07
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The big box retail system has taken Linux out of the shadows
Ole Man | 12/11/07
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Well...
Linux User 147560 | 12/10/07
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lol
rtk | 12/10/07
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I wouldn't go QUITE that far
Michael Kelly | 12/10/07
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That's rather pathetic
nizuse | 12/10/07
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Linux ducks (err penguins) not quite in a row yet
croberts | 12/10/07
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It does and you can.
odubtaig | 12/10/07
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Hacks
croberts | 12/10/07
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You're clearly not paying attention.
odubtaig | 12/10/07
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Shut the f*** up????
croberts | 12/10/07
|
    
Lipstick?
LinuxHippie | 12/10/07
|
    
Is it like trying to run Lotus Ami Pro on Vista?
odubtaig | 12/11/07
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You are misinformed or mistaken. (The fault/decision is the developers)
LazLong | 12/10/07
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You are right
croberts | 12/10/07
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Drivers and apps
alaniane@... | 12/11/07
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Correction
alaniane@... | 12/11/07
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Incorrect numbers on Linux ...
MisterMiester | 12/10/07
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I have to agree.
TripleII | 12/10/07
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Mark Shuttlewoth of Unbuntu has data ...
MisterMiester | 12/10/07
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And I am sure that mark does not benefit ...
ShadeTree | 12/10/07
|
   
Sorry ...
MisterMiester | 12/10/07
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Prove they are not!
ShadeTree | 12/11/07
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Once again ...
MisterMiester | 12/11/07
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an unbiased source
bmerc | 12/11/07
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Ip addresses
Joerobyte | 12/11/07
|
   
Not for downloads, but for updates ...
MisterMiester | 12/12/07
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I don't think you read the article...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/10/07
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Don't trust web statistics
dragosani | 12/10/07
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By and large client systems are used to surf ...
ShadeTree | 12/10/07
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So ...
MisterMiester | 12/10/07
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It is on the site
ShadeTree | 12/11/07
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Lather, Rinse, Repeat ...
MisterMiester | 12/11/07
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He can't show you the
alaniane@... | 12/11/07
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Of course he has an unbiased source
Ole Man | 12/11/07
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Obviously you didn't read my post
dragosani | 12/11/07
|
   
there are systematic errors
shis-ka-bob | 12/11/07
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While the may be imitating a Windows ...
ShadeTree | 12/11/07
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There is no IE on Linux
daengbo | 12/11/07
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Sorry, please try again ...
MisterMiester | 12/10/07
|
  
It's search engine hits
j.m.galvin | 12/10/07
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RE: Sorry, please try again ...
nwoodson@... | 12/10/07
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Not that surf the Web!!!
ShadeTree | 12/10/07
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Sorry ...
MisterMiester | 12/10/07
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Where have You Been Worldwide
windozefreak | 12/11/07
|
  
If you want the world wide breakdown ...
ShadeTree | 12/11/07
|
   
Well ...
MisterMiester | 12/11/07
|
   
"Just because..."
bmerc | 12/11/07
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The site is not working... Overloaded?
Solid Water | 12/10/07
|
  
The site and the links work fine.
ShadeTree | 12/11/07
|
  
The site is an adtracker
Ole Man | 12/11/07
|

What you say makes sense but ...
markbn | 12/10/07
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Need more time ...
MisterMiester | 12/10/07
|
  
Right, let's wait ...
markbn | 12/10/07
|
  
We have only been waiting ...
ShadeTree | 12/11/07
|
   
Don't feed the trolls ...
MisterMiester | 12/11/07
|
  
"wait and see"
Ole Man | 12/11/07
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1 Problem with these cheap Linux machines
BroGnorik | 12/10/07
|

So where's the problem?
Ole Man | 12/11/07
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Forget tracking linux pc's with the norm
terrance.lacluster | 12/10/07
|

Why are they hiding?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/10/07
|
 
Not hiding
super_J | 12/10/07
|
  
Plus......
nwoodson@... | 12/10/07
|
 
"Why would they hide?"
bmerc | 12/11/07
|
 
Hiding from the Trolls (NT)
Ole Man | 12/11/07
|
Geeks aren't buying the gOS PC at Walmart
super_J | 12/10/07
|

Well, I consider myself a Geek, and I will buy one of the computers from
DonnieBoy | 12/10/07
|
 
well, okay
super_J | 12/10/07
|
  
Yes and No
GuidingLight | 12/11/07
|
   
if possible?
Ole Man | 12/11/07
|
  
Very good point...
Wolfie2K3 | 12/11/07
|

Windows XP runs better than Desktop Linux on low-end PCs
georgeou | 12/10/07
|
 
In default config, I have to agree
patibulo | 12/11/07
|
 
Maybe so...
lumpy_blumpkin | 12/11/07
|
 
You are sooooooooo right!
Ole Man | 12/11/07
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Never underestimate the diruptive power of cheap
Chad_z | 12/10/07
|

Forgetting Web Servers ...
MisterMiester | 12/10/07
|

Yup......
nwoodson@... | 12/10/07
|

Bingo
super_J | 12/10/07
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On Windows, not much at all, on Microsoft
GuidingLight | 12/10/07
|
Very true, geeks, or geeks buying for parents or others that only need
DonnieBoy | 12/10/07
|
Honestly
Shelendrea | 12/10/07
|
Adrian, could you please state clearly how the percentages were arrived at?
DonnieBoy | 12/10/07
|

His included link tells you
j.m.galvin | 12/10/07
|
 
Come on Adrian, put it in the article, we do not have time to
DonnieBoy | 12/10/07
|
  
You really should look at that site
j.m.galvin | 12/10/07
|
   
Still, for a blogg post, it is not obvious, and he should give us the basic
DonnieBoy | 12/10/07
|
    
You have time to post on zdnet all the time but
eb276 | 12/10/07
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Linux architecture is too ancient
qmlscycrajg | 12/10/07
|

I used to think this but it's actually irrelevant
stevey_d | 12/10/07
|

So's four wheels on a vehicle, are unicycles better? (NT)
odubtaig | 12/10/07
|

Why?
TripleII | 12/10/07
|

I think your brain is too ancient!
Linux Geek | 12/10/07
|

Yeah.......right
nwoodson@... | 12/10/07
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Linux is definitely...
BFD | 12/10/07
|

94+% dropping to 92% in a year.
stevey_d | 12/10/07
|
 
Er, yeah man. Maybe the tracking is better?
GuidingLight | 12/10/07
|
  
maybe
stevey_d | 12/10/07
|
   
Why bother having them try it...
storm14k | 12/10/07
|
   
I Have It on An Old PC
windozefreak | 12/11/07
|
  
If you even bothered to look at the Net Applications site
j.m.galvin | 12/10/07
|
 
That must be why Vista has ....
ShadeTree | 12/10/07
|
  
Well what would you inspect...
storm14k | 12/10/07
|
   
Assumes facts not in evidence.
ShadeTree | 12/11/07
|
    
Then deal with reality...
storm14k | 12/11/07
|
     
Windows best platform for .NET
Tiggster | 12/11/07
|
 
There are stats and then there are stats....
rgetsla | 12/11/07
|
  
What is Your Company Name?
windozefreak | 12/11/07
|

Agreed
Crestview | 12/10/07
|

Yes, MS would love it if everybody would lay down and cede the desktop, but
DonnieBoy | 12/11/07
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Regardless of the numbers from this one source,
LazLong | 12/10/07
|

Good points ...
super_J | 12/10/07
|
 
Growing and growing?
Tiggster | 12/11/07
|

I believe the stats for US only
TripleII | 12/10/07
|
 
Correct
j.m.galvin | 12/10/07
|
  
The results are worldwide.
ShadeTree | 12/10/07
|
   
See my post below AND
j.m.galvin | 12/10/07
|
    
Yes they do!
ShadeTree | 12/11/07
|
  
From "the guy above" (thanxs, I almost like that)
LazLong | 12/10/07
|
   
Here's the methodology according to the site
alaniane@... | 12/11/07
|
   
From the Horse's mouth
Ole Man | 12/11/07
|
 
Nope It is worldwide!
ShadeTree | 12/10/07
|
  
Wrong
j.m.galvin | 12/10/07
|
   
Not true at all.
ShadeTree | 12/11/07
|
  
I showed they are wrong
TripleII | 12/10/07
|
   
Try to learn some statistics!
ShadeTree | 12/11/07
|
    
Try to learn the scientific method.
TripleII | 12/11/07
|
    
The sampling according
alaniane@... | 12/11/07
|
     
Since they operate worldwide ...
ShadeTree | 12/11/07
|
     
That's not how statistics
alaniane@... | 12/11/07
|

I Know of People who Changed Their eePc
windozefreak | 12/11/07
|
RE: Linux, cheap PCs and the effect this will have on Microsoft
DannyO_0x98 | 12/10/07
|
Margin unaffected by choice of OS
Richard Flude | 12/10/07
|

Not true!
ShadeTree | 12/10/07
|
 
You just proved his point ...
MisterMiester | 12/10/07
|
  
No, I disproved his point.
ShadeTree | 12/11/07
|
   
Hit a nerve?
MisterMiester | 12/11/07
|
    
Google doesn't pay to install their ...
ShadeTree | 12/11/07
|
   
Message has been deleted.
bmerc | 12/11/07
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Re:
Vadim P. | 12/10/07
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Selling Linux
marpincan@... | 12/10/07
|

Thats exactly the machines he's referring to
j.m.galvin | 12/10/07
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Hardware/software -either way they make there mony
marpincan@... | 12/10/07
|
Linus equal Lenin
cbliles@... | 12/10/07
|
Hassel-Free PC - Forbes.com Article
D. T. Schmitz | 12/10/07
|
Very little if no effect
Crestview | 12/10/07
|
Geek
whooliebacon | 12/10/07
|
RE: Linux, cheap PCs and the effect this will have on Microsoft
ohiomike | 12/10/07
|
RE: Linux, cheap PCs and the effect this will have on Microsoft
jimk_z | 12/10/07
|
Why? Cause' Gates buys/uses gov to maintain MS monopoly & kill competition
Just_true | 12/10/07
|
The effect will be huge
TripleII | 12/10/07
|
Net Application's Numbers Vs. IDC's Numbers
UserLand | 12/10/07
|

Yep, I believe other sources as well
TripleII | 12/10/07
|

IDC counts sales of machines with Linux installed.
ShadeTree | 12/11/07
|
Linux and Microsoft
itpro_z | 12/10/07
|

Very good, itpro_z
Ole Man | 12/11/07
|
 
I know it is hard for you to understand...
itpro_z | 12/12/07
|
  
You are right, the jihad you now have to worry about
Ole Man | 12/12/07
|
   
All of our software...
itpro_z | 12/12/07
|
    
You never know...........
Ole Man | 12/12/07
|

I agree with
alaniane@... | 12/12/07
|
 
True
itpro_z | 12/12/07
|
RE: Linux, cheap PCs and the effect this will have on Microsoft
tioedong@... | 12/11/07
|
RE: Linux, cheap PCs and the effect this will have on Microsoft
tioedong@... | 12/11/07
|
Until Linux distros launch a truly successful advertisement campaign
Boot_Agnostic | 12/11/07
|

I'm a Mac, I'm a PC commercials
archerjoe | 12/11/07
|
Schools save over 50 percent with Linux
matthewboh | 12/11/07
|
So no other mobile O/S acesses the web apart from iPhone?
jeremy@... | 12/11/07
|
Clarification on Linux
plarsien@... | 12/11/07
|

Good points, the call center / data entry type applications are the low
DonnieBoy | 12/11/07
|
LINUX USAGE
jamillikan@... | 12/11/07
|
The main problem is not the price
TristanGrimaux | 12/11/07
|
RE: Linux, cheap PCs and the effect this will have on Microsoft
cwallen19803 | 12/11/07
|

It's 2007
TripleII | 12/11/07
|
RE: Linux, cheap PCs and the effect this will have on Microsoft
mwagner@... | 12/11/07
|

Not the machines referred to in the article
j.m.galvin | 12/11/07
|

Add in OS support (which comes with all Windows systems)
Ole Man | 12/11/07
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The Microsoft tax is shifting
tony@... | 12/11/07
|

You missed the best part
Ole Man | 12/11/07
|
Need to move on from the PC
hiker25882 | 12/11/07
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RE: Linux, cheap PCs and the effect this will have on Microsoft
danm50 | 12/11/07
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I will use 2k sp4 until it is...
tek_heretik | 12/11/07
|
Oh, and by the time I burn out this C2D...
tek_heretik | 12/11/07
|
It's all about program installation
Crash2100 | 12/11/07
|

Sadly true from a part-time Linux enduser
drprodny | 12/11/07
|

Can you read?
Ole Man | 12/11/07
|
 
It's on my computer
Crash2100 | 12/12/07
|
  
I don't use Fedora
Ole Man | 12/12/07
|
Dell Linux
kych99@... | 12/11/07
|
Lower cost of OEM Window = Less economic harm from copyright violation?
grail@... | 12/11/07
|
Now Vs. in Years to Come
JonathanSeer | 12/11/07
|

Although Microsoft has more loot
Ole Man | 12/11/07
|
Linux, cheap PCs
cliffbar4 | 12/12/07
|
It's on my computer
Crash2100 | 12/12/07
|
Linux is even better on the "expensive stuff"
mikifinaz1@... | 12/12/07
|

I doubt it
hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 12/13/07
|
OEM ads and "geeks"
Nobu_z | 12/13/07
|

The numbers may be close
Ole Man | 12/13/07
|
Linux rules!
prochefmichael@... | 12/14/07
|
RE: Linux, cheap PCs and the effect this will have on Microsoft
BillGates_z | 12/14/07
|
Cheap PC, should Micorsoft care?
r.myers@... | 12/14/07
|
Linux is more popular than you thnik
d.pladgeman@... | 12/16/07
|
I agree
John Musbach | 12/16/07
|
Ubuntu 7.10 live sucks
ds4211a@... | 01/07/08
|