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Well I guess it depends on where the numbers are from..
and what does about 2% drop mean in real numbers, which is what it appears has happened to Microsoft. And Mac has gained almost 1.5%.
Posted by: mrOSX   Posted on: 12/10/07 You are currently: a Guest | Members login | Terms of Use

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Any numbers on how well (or not) Dells Linux systems are selling?  ye | 12/10/07
PR stunt  dragosani | 12/10/07
Man is that the truth!  Linux User 147560 | 12/10/07
No, I give Dell credit  TripleII | 12/10/07
I don't  dragosani | 12/10/07
It is easy to spend someone else's money.  TripleII | 12/10/07
Meant $1M (nt)  TripleII | 12/10/07
Well could make them for visible on their website...  mrOSX | 12/10/07
The are visible....  bportlock | 12/11/07
Dell and Demand  lmenningen | 12/10/07
You have to look at the effort  TripleII | 12/10/07
Responding to Tripwell  daengbo | 12/11/07
Sorry, daengbo  Ole Man | 12/11/07
Mine is an Inspiron E1505  Update victim | 12/11/07
They still offer RedHat ...  mwagner@... | 12/11/07
Mistaken assumptions  gsteele531@... | 12/13/07
"not in Dell's business interests"  Ole Man | 12/13/07
Around 40K.  TripleII | 12/10/07
To put it in perspective.  ShadeTree | 12/10/07
But it's a start  Michael Kelly | 12/10/07
Re: But it's a start  none none | 12/10/07
Re: To put it in perspective.  none none | 12/10/07
Linux on Dell.com hard to find? NOT!  mwagner@... | 12/11/07
I trust you are being sarcastic  webservant2003@... | 12/11/07
would not be so sure  agre12000@... | 12/11/07
I trust YOU are being sarcastic  handydan918@... | 12/11/07
" I teach online courses"  Ole Man | 12/11/07
See post above  TripleII | 12/10/07
And they made it real easy to buy... NOT!  lordshipmayhem | 12/11/07
I won't buy...  Jxn | 12/15/07
Ironically, it would probably be cheaper ...  mwagner@... | 12/11/07
Has happened.  TripleII | 12/11/07
If most people only knew...........  Ole Man | 12/11/07
Dell and the subsidy  barryj@... | 12/11/07
I haven't seen any numbers, but  Update victim | 12/11/07
Well I guess it depends on where the numbers are from..  mrOSX | 12/10/07
RE: Linux, cheap PCs and the effect this will have on Microsoft  Destnaru | 12/10/07
Vista is optimised for SSD.  ShadeTree | 12/10/07
Yes and no  nucrash | 12/10/07
2 drives  mandehu@... | 12/12/07
Re: Vista is optimised for SSD.  none none | 12/10/07
Hybrid drives!  ShadeTree | 12/11/07
Gotta be careful with that, though...  masonwheeler | 12/11/07
Solid-State Drives have been around ...  mwagner@... | 12/11/07
The bulk of the PCs that sell ...  ShadeTree | 12/11/07
Yeah, right.  itpro_z | 12/10/07
fake numbers  Linux Geek | 12/10/07
Hits on search engines  j.m.galvin | 12/10/07
Wrong their stats  alaniane@... | 12/11/07
Thanks for the low-down  Ole Man | 12/11/07
So show us some numbers  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/10/07
Numbers  super_J | 12/10/07
If you are corrent about the numbers being...  mrOSX | 12/10/07
See my answer below(nt).  ShadeTree | 12/10/07
Check the article.  rtk | 12/10/07
Doesn't matter at all.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/10/07
Yes, it is a problem for MS if you replace Windows with Linux. It reduces  DonnieBoy | 12/10/07
Fool, very few people use Linux as a Desktop OS  markbn | 12/10/07
RE: Fool, very few people use Linux as a Desktop OS  sir_cheats_alot@... | 12/10/07
RE: Fool, very few people use Linux as a Desktop OS  markbn | 12/10/07
markbn - new troll on the block?  Don Collins | 12/12/07
Message has been deleted.  markbn | 12/12/07
Just because ...  markbn | 12/13/07
Cheap and better  r_ranjith@... | 12/12/07
RE: Fool, very few people use Linux as a Desktop OS  joe6pack_z | 12/10/07
RE: Fool, very few people use Linux as a Desktop OS  markbn | 12/10/07
prime time  fortboffin@... | 12/11/07
Fool  TristanGrimaux | 12/11/07
The point I made is that MS DOES care if a signifcant portion were to  DonnieBoy | 12/10/07
Of course MS does care ...  markbn | 12/10/07
Still, MS IS worried. They fight tooth and nail to try to deny Linux and  DonnieBoy | 12/11/07
Re: Fool, very few people use Linux as a Desktop OS  none none | 12/10/07
Re: Fool, very few people use Linux as a Desktop OS  markbn | 12/10/07
A fool and his money are soon parted  Ole Man | 12/11/07
Who is the fool?  markbn | 12/11/07
@ markbn  Ole Man | 12/12/07
Get a clue  markbn | 12/12/07
The clue is yours to get  Ole Man | 12/13/07
What I get ...  markbn | 12/13/07
It's good enough if not better already  voska | 12/11/07
Doesn't quite add up  Ole Man | 12/11/07
Linux will not penetrate the market if it ...  mwagner@... | 12/11/07
The only ones who think Linux is a Windows clone  Ole Man | 12/11/07
Very true, I am probably counted as a Windows user since all of the laptops  DonnieBoy | 12/10/07
Are you kidding?  Ole Man | 12/11/07
That would be true if they were sales numbers ....  ShadeTree | 12/10/07
Re: That would be true if they were sales numbers ....  none none | 12/10/07
Do you have anything meaningfull to add?  ShadeTree | 12/11/07
You have to consider  Ole Man | 12/11/07
Here's the methodology  alaniane@... | 12/11/07
Here's the link  alaniane@... | 12/11/07
Depends on who buys them  j.m.galvin | 12/10/07
Yes, there is a lot of low hanging fruit in some companies, especially call  DonnieBoy | 12/10/07
Enterprise market  itpro_z | 12/10/07
Sigh  markbn | 12/10/07
That is to ignoire all of the progress made by FireFox, Linux, and  DonnieBoy | 12/10/07
Make up your mind...  markbn | 12/10/07
The battle is on a lot of different fronts. It is NOT and either/or  DonnieBoy | 12/11/07
Battle? This is not a war! Are you in drugs or what?  markbn | 12/11/07
Another point you are missing. Do know how man call center like situations  DonnieBoy | 12/10/07
Irrelevant to my post (n/t)  markbn | 12/10/07
No, it is very relevant. Call center and similar type applications is one  DonnieBoy | 12/11/07
As I said, this has nothing to do with Linux  markbn | 12/11/07
Only because your post is irrelevant (NT)  Ole Man | 12/11/07
Not as irrelevant as your existence (n/t)  markbn | 12/11/07
Hey.... markbn  Ole Man | 12/11/07
Everybody is watching you too  markbn | 12/11/07
You do not need Linux for that  markbn | 12/11/07
I agree, but....  itpro_z | 12/10/07
Sigh...  thungurknifur | 12/12/07
Yup, the A$$hat called thungurknifur  markbn | 12/12/07
Don't give him too much credit.......  Ole Man | 12/13/07
Yes, you have neither  markbn | 12/13/07
Re: Depends on who buys them  none none | 12/10/07
Please reread my post  j.m.galvin | 12/11/07
College-aged mindshare  techboy_z | 12/10/07
Those same college students will get a job and go to work ....  ShadeTree | 12/10/07
Depends on the college  itpro_z | 12/10/07
Not much of an effect  nwoodson@... | 12/10/07
The big box retail system has taken Linux out of the shadows  Ole Man | 12/11/07
Well...  Linux User 147560 | 12/10/07
lol  rtk | 12/10/07
I wouldn't go QUITE that far  Michael Kelly | 12/10/07
That's rather pathetic  nizuse | 12/10/07
Linux ducks (err penguins) not quite in a row yet  croberts | 12/10/07
It does and you can.  odubtaig | 12/10/07
Hacks  croberts | 12/10/07
You're clearly not paying attention.  odubtaig | 12/10/07
Shut the f*** up????  croberts | 12/10/07
Lipstick?  LinuxHippie | 12/10/07
Is it like trying to run Lotus Ami Pro on Vista?  odubtaig | 12/11/07
You are misinformed or mistaken. (The fault/decision is the developers)  LazLong | 12/10/07
You are right  croberts | 12/10/07
Drivers and apps  alaniane@... | 12/11/07
Correction  alaniane@... | 12/11/07
Incorrect numbers on Linux ...  MisterMiester | 12/10/07
I have to agree.  TripleII | 12/10/07
Mark Shuttlewoth of Unbuntu has data ...  MisterMiester | 12/10/07
And I am sure that mark does not benefit ...  ShadeTree | 12/10/07
Sorry ...  MisterMiester | 12/10/07
Prove they are not!  ShadeTree | 12/11/07
Once again ...  MisterMiester | 12/11/07
an unbiased source  bmerc | 12/11/07
Ip addresses  Joerobyte | 12/11/07
Not for downloads, but for updates ...  MisterMiester | 12/12/07
I don't think you read the article...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/10/07
Don't trust web statistics  dragosani | 12/10/07
By and large client systems are used to surf ...  ShadeTree | 12/10/07
So ...  MisterMiester | 12/10/07
It is on the site  ShadeTree | 12/11/07
Lather, Rinse, Repeat ...  MisterMiester | 12/11/07
He can't show you the  alaniane@... | 12/11/07
Of course he has an unbiased source  Ole Man | 12/11/07
Obviously you didn't read my post  dragosani | 12/11/07
there are systematic errors  shis-ka-bob | 12/11/07
While the may be imitating a Windows ...  ShadeTree | 12/11/07
There is no IE on Linux  daengbo | 12/11/07
Sorry, please try again ...  MisterMiester | 12/10/07
It's search engine hits  j.m.galvin | 12/10/07
RE: Sorry, please try again ...  nwoodson@... | 12/10/07
Not that surf the Web!!!  ShadeTree | 12/10/07
Sorry ...  MisterMiester | 12/10/07
Where have You Been Worldwide  windozefreak | 12/11/07
If you want the world wide breakdown ...  ShadeTree | 12/11/07
Well ...  MisterMiester | 12/11/07
"Just because..."  bmerc | 12/11/07
The site is not working... Overloaded?  Solid Water | 12/10/07
The site and the links work fine.  ShadeTree | 12/11/07
The site is an adtracker  Ole Man | 12/11/07
What you say makes sense but ...  markbn | 12/10/07
Need more time ...  MisterMiester | 12/10/07
Right, let's wait ...  markbn | 12/10/07
We have only been waiting ...  ShadeTree | 12/11/07
Don't feed the trolls ...  MisterMiester | 12/11/07
"wait and see"  Ole Man | 12/11/07
1 Problem with these cheap Linux machines  BroGnorik | 12/10/07
So where's the problem?  Ole Man | 12/11/07
Forget tracking linux pc's with the norm  terrance.lacluster | 12/10/07
Why are they hiding?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/10/07
Not hiding  super_J | 12/10/07
Plus......  nwoodson@... | 12/10/07
"Why would they hide?"  bmerc | 12/11/07
Hiding from the Trolls (NT)  Ole Man | 12/11/07
Geeks aren't buying the gOS PC at Walmart  super_J | 12/10/07
Well, I consider myself a Geek, and I will buy one of the computers from  DonnieBoy | 12/10/07
well, okay  super_J | 12/10/07
Yes and No  GuidingLight | 12/11/07
if possible?  Ole Man | 12/11/07
Very good point...  Wolfie2K3 | 12/11/07
Windows XP runs better than Desktop Linux on low-end PCs  georgeou | 12/10/07
In default config, I have to agree  patibulo | 12/11/07
Maybe so...  lumpy_blumpkin | 12/11/07
You are sooooooooo right!  Ole Man | 12/11/07
Never underestimate the diruptive power of cheap  Chad_z | 12/10/07
Forgetting Web Servers ...  MisterMiester | 12/10/07
Yup......  nwoodson@... | 12/10/07
Bingo  super_J | 12/10/07
On Windows, not much at all, on Microsoft  GuidingLight | 12/10/07
Very true, geeks, or geeks buying for parents or others that only need  DonnieBoy | 12/10/07
Honestly  Shelendrea | 12/10/07
Adrian, could you please state clearly how the percentages were arrived at?  DonnieBoy | 12/10/07
His included link tells you  j.m.galvin | 12/10/07
Come on Adrian, put it in the article, we do not have time to  DonnieBoy | 12/10/07
You really should look at that site  j.m.galvin | 12/10/07
Still, for a blogg post, it is not obvious, and he should give us the basic  DonnieBoy | 12/10/07
You have time to post on zdnet all the time but  eb276 | 12/10/07
Linux architecture is too ancient  qmlscycrajg | 12/10/07
I used to think this but it's actually irrelevant  stevey_d | 12/10/07
So's four wheels on a vehicle, are unicycles better? (NT)  odubtaig | 12/10/07
Why?  TripleII | 12/10/07
I think your brain is too ancient!  Linux Geek | 12/10/07
Yeah.......right  nwoodson@... | 12/10/07
Linux is definitely...  BFD | 12/10/07
94+% dropping to 92% in a year.  stevey_d | 12/10/07
Er, yeah man. Maybe the tracking is better?  GuidingLight | 12/10/07
maybe  stevey_d | 12/10/07
Why bother having them try it...  storm14k | 12/10/07
I Have It on An Old PC  windozefreak | 12/11/07
If you even bothered to look at the Net Applications site  j.m.galvin | 12/10/07
That must be why Vista has ....  ShadeTree | 12/10/07
Well what would you inspect...  storm14k | 12/10/07
Assumes facts not in evidence.  ShadeTree | 12/11/07
Then deal with reality...  storm14k | 12/11/07
Windows best platform for .NET  Tiggster | 12/11/07
There are stats and then there are stats....  rgetsla | 12/11/07
What is Your Company Name?  windozefreak | 12/11/07
Agreed  Crestview | 12/10/07
Yes, MS would love it if everybody would lay down and cede the desktop, but  DonnieBoy | 12/11/07
Regardless of the numbers from this one source,  LazLong | 12/10/07
Good points ...  super_J | 12/10/07
Growing and growing?  Tiggster | 12/11/07
I believe the stats for US only  TripleII | 12/10/07
Correct  j.m.galvin | 12/10/07
The results are worldwide.  ShadeTree | 12/10/07
See my post below AND  j.m.galvin | 12/10/07
Yes they do!  ShadeTree | 12/11/07
From "the guy above" (thanxs, I almost like that)  LazLong | 12/10/07
Here's the methodology according to the site  alaniane@... | 12/11/07
From the Horse's mouth  Ole Man | 12/11/07
Nope It is worldwide!  ShadeTree | 12/10/07
Wrong  j.m.galvin | 12/10/07
Not true at all.  ShadeTree | 12/11/07
I showed they are wrong  TripleII | 12/10/07
Try to learn some statistics!  ShadeTree | 12/11/07
Try to learn the scientific method.  TripleII | 12/11/07
The sampling according  alaniane@... | 12/11/07
Since they operate worldwide ...  ShadeTree | 12/11/07
That's not how statistics  alaniane@... | 12/11/07
I Know of People who Changed Their eePc  windozefreak | 12/11/07
RE: Linux, cheap PCs and the effect this will have on Microsoft  DannyO_0x98 | 12/10/07
Margin unaffected by choice of OS  Richard Flude | 12/10/07
Not true!  ShadeTree | 12/10/07
You just proved his point ...  MisterMiester | 12/10/07
No, I disproved his point.  ShadeTree | 12/11/07
Hit a nerve?  MisterMiester | 12/11/07
Google doesn't pay to install their ...  ShadeTree | 12/11/07
Message has been deleted.  bmerc | 12/11/07
Re:  Vadim P. | 12/10/07
Selling Linux  marpincan@... | 12/10/07
Thats exactly the machines he's referring to  j.m.galvin | 12/10/07
Hardware/software -either way they make there mony  marpincan@... | 12/10/07
Linus equal Lenin  cbliles@... | 12/10/07
Hassel-Free PC - Forbes.com Article  D. T. Schmitz | 12/10/07
Very little if no effect  Crestview | 12/10/07
Geek  whooliebacon | 12/10/07
RE: Linux, cheap PCs and the effect this will have on Microsoft  ohiomike | 12/10/07
RE: Linux, cheap PCs and the effect this will have on Microsoft  jimk_z | 12/10/07
Why? Cause' Gates buys/uses gov to maintain MS monopoly & kill competition  Just_true | 12/10/07
The effect will be huge  TripleII | 12/10/07
Net Application's Numbers Vs. IDC's Numbers  UserLand | 12/10/07
Yep, I believe other sources as well  TripleII | 12/10/07
IDC counts sales of machines with Linux installed.  ShadeTree | 12/11/07
Linux and Microsoft  itpro_z | 12/10/07
Very good, itpro_z  Ole Man | 12/11/07
I know it is hard for you to understand...  itpro_z | 12/12/07
You are right, the jihad you now have to worry about  Ole Man | 12/12/07
All of our software...  itpro_z | 12/12/07
You never know...........  Ole Man | 12/12/07
I agree with  alaniane@... | 12/12/07
True  itpro_z | 12/12/07
RE: Linux, cheap PCs and the effect this will have on Microsoft  tioedong@... | 12/11/07
RE: Linux, cheap PCs and the effect this will have on Microsoft  tioedong@... | 12/11/07
Until Linux distros launch a truly successful advertisement campaign  Boot_Agnostic | 12/11/07
I'm a Mac, I'm a PC commercials  archerjoe | 12/11/07
Schools save over 50 percent with Linux  matthewboh | 12/11/07
So no other mobile O/S acesses the web apart from iPhone?  jeremy@... | 12/11/07
Clarification on Linux  plarsien@... | 12/11/07
Good points, the call center / data entry type applications are the low  DonnieBoy | 12/11/07
LINUX USAGE  jamillikan@... | 12/11/07
The main problem is not the price  TristanGrimaux | 12/11/07
RE: Linux, cheap PCs and the effect this will have on Microsoft  cwallen19803 | 12/11/07
It's 2007  TripleII | 12/11/07
RE: Linux, cheap PCs and the effect this will have on Microsoft  mwagner@... | 12/11/07
Not the machines referred to in the article  j.m.galvin | 12/11/07
Add in OS support (which comes with all Windows systems)  Ole Man | 12/11/07
The Microsoft tax is shifting  tony@... | 12/11/07
You missed the best part  Ole Man | 12/11/07
Need to move on from the PC  hiker25882 | 12/11/07
RE: Linux, cheap PCs and the effect this will have on Microsoft  danm50 | 12/11/07
I will use 2k sp4 until it is...  tek_heretik | 12/11/07
Oh, and by the time I burn out this C2D...  tek_heretik | 12/11/07
It's all about program installation  Crash2100 | 12/11/07
Sadly true from a part-time Linux enduser  drprodny | 12/11/07
Can you read?  Ole Man | 12/11/07
It's on my computer  Crash2100 | 12/12/07
I don't use Fedora  Ole Man | 12/12/07
Dell Linux  kych99@... | 12/11/07
Lower cost of OEM Window = Less economic harm from copyright violation?  grail@... | 12/11/07
Now Vs. in Years to Come  JonathanSeer | 12/11/07
Although Microsoft has more loot  Ole Man | 12/11/07
Linux, cheap PCs  cliffbar4 | 12/12/07
It's on my computer  Crash2100 | 12/12/07
Linux is even better on the "expensive stuff"  mikifinaz1@... | 12/12/07
I doubt it  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 12/13/07
OEM ads and "geeks"  Nobu_z | 12/13/07
The numbers may be close  Ole Man | 12/13/07
Linux rules!  prochefmichael@... | 12/14/07
RE: Linux, cheap PCs and the effect this will have on Microsoft  BillGates_z | 12/14/07
Cheap PC, should Micorsoft care?  r.myers@... | 12/14/07
Linux is more popular than you thnik  d.pladgeman@... | 12/16/07
I agree  John Musbach | 12/16/07
Ubuntu 7.10 live sucks  ds4211a@... | 01/07/08

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