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The unholy trinity of modern computing...
... is as follows:

1. For those with money and/or an image fetish - the Mac
2. For the geeks - Linux
3. For the rest - Windows

And that is how it will stay for the forseeable future unless some event causes some form of drastic disruption. Examples of "drastic" are:

a) A drive-by virus that completely corrupts Windows.
b) China/Asia/3rd world adopting Linux en-mass, ie. billions
c) A thin client that runs so well at such low cost that businesses *have* to buy it.
d) Mac production is franchised, prices slashed
e) Human/machine interface that plugs you directly into the net eliminating the need for a PC.

Any of these would cause a "wobble" in the world of computing, but the status quo will continue until something either frightens users off Windows or makes it too attractive for them not to go elsewhere.

I don't know what that could be, but nothing lasts forever - not even Microsoft or Windows.
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The unholy trinity of modern computing...  bportlock | 05/23/07
Good identification of the three groups.  Anton Philidor | 05/23/07
That's fairly twisted....  bportlock | 05/23/07
Destabilization and Novell et al.  Anton Philidor | 05/23/07
Some corrections  bportlock | 05/23/07
Even Netscape execs said their blunders...  Anton Philidor | 05/23/07
Hmmm...  bportlock | 05/23/07
Microsoft publicly announced...  Anton Philidor | 05/23/07
Actually, he was wrong about WordPerfect  JJQ1000 | 05/24/07
The only reason?  Anton Philidor | 05/24/07
I agree  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Actually, it's real twisted  jacarter3 | 05/23/07
Me too  Badgered | 05/23/07
Would be a huge blog piece ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Me three, Especially the Piece on Apple  padapa | 04/14/09
You're right, and you're wrong  Master Dingo | 05/23/07
Fine - no need for you to choose  jacarter3 | 05/23/07
Yes, I did  Master Dingo | 05/23/07
Thanks for the reply! happy  jacarter3 | 05/23/07
It would be nice...  KWierso | 05/24/07
Not choice, but what WORKS  Hempman | 05/24/07
Linux works fine.  odubtaig | 05/26/07
Not choice, but what WORKS  cheesyone | 06/05/07
My take is that ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Which has one fault  Jxn | 05/28/07
Tried to go linux  MR_DE_01@... | 05/29/07
good point  mark16_15@... | 06/14/07
Leveraging the market  John L. Ries | 05/23/07
Does Microsoft prevent competitors from being sold?  Anton Philidor | 05/23/07
As much as they can without being punished for it  John L. Ries | 05/23/07
I think Microsoft uses patents on open source software...  Anton Philidor | 05/23/07
Sorry  John L. Ries | 05/23/07
Patents?  cheesyone | 06/05/07
True for all big companies  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Nothing lasts forever ....  bportlock | 05/23/07
What about "b)"?  PghNative | 05/23/07
That's what I mean when I say "disruptive"  bportlock | 05/23/07
The $100 laptop is now the $170 laptop...  Anton Philidor | 05/23/07
Winning?  PghNative | 05/23/07
Short-sighted Indeed  frybakes@... | 06/02/07
"Gold value"  trojjer | 12/12/07
I meant to say...  trojjer | 12/12/07
Linux *may* be far from "winning" but  fmcgowan | 05/23/07
I dunno about that...  lutherlarry | 05/24/07
"I wouldn't count Microsoft out of any competition"  Ole Man | 05/23/07
The $3 offer was only to governments...  Anton Philidor | 05/23/07
Not happening thought, is it?  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
The machine without an operating system  jorwell | 05/23/07
Really?  tobias2143@... | 05/23/07
A computer IS a system for defining logical rules  jorwell | 05/23/07
I agree  tobias2143@... | 05/23/07
I think a lot of the complexity comes from poor design  jorwell | 05/23/07
Essentially  tobias2143@... | 05/23/07
Exactly  jorwell | 05/23/07
Let's put it another way  jorwell | 05/23/07
Math Problem  tobias2143@... | 05/23/07
Not if you use the right mathematics  jorwell | 05/23/07
Not following your math  DannyO_0x98 | 05/23/07
False assumption  jorwell | 05/23/07
Yes - you've got it  bportlock | 05/23/07
Media  tobias2143@... | 05/23/07
media?  jorwell | 05/23/07
The problem with the PC....  bportlock | 05/23/07
Like mobile devices perhaps?  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
who needs an Ipaq? Mobile phone runs gmail  stevey_d | 05/30/07
Well Said!  voska | 05/23/07
Not what I meant really  jorwell | 05/23/07
Have you seen Terminator 3?  cls@... | 05/23/07
The erosion of a monoculture.  gotitright | 05/24/07
Hasn't "a)" already happened?  Narg | 05/24/07
I have neither money nor an image fetish  labarker | 05/24/07
Even the rocket scientists agree with you.  Resuna | 05/24/07
You're not alone!  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Geek or not, if you JUST WANT IT TO WORK, get a Mac.  Resuna | 05/24/07
And yet  tracy anne | 05/24/07
money; was unholy trinity  mandehu@... | 05/24/07
Linux for stupid people with too much time, not geeks  Leria | 05/25/07
Linux for stupid people with too much time, not geeks  leewen@... | 05/26/07
Nice reinforcing of the other person's point.  odubtaig | 05/26/07
So you think?  Ole Man | 05/26/07
Funny!  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Nothing lasts forever  Rick_R | 05/25/07
The future fourth member  Rick_R | 05/25/07
after reading 400+  G13man | 05/25/07
How thin do you want your client?  odubtaig | 05/26/07
Well I just want to get things done, so Windows doesn't cut it  stevey_d | 05/30/07
Marketing  Anton Philidor | 05/23/07
The way the market works.  keepu | 05/24/07
Not a healthy choice with Windows.  gotitright | 05/24/07
Good point  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Mainly I use Linux because it does what I bloody well tell it to.  odubtaig | 05/26/07
Talk about KDE and GNOME too geeky?  madjo | 05/23/07
Geeky...  cheryl.monroe@... | 05/23/07
Or of course  Freebird54 | 05/23/07
Jargon..  cheryl.monroe@... | 05/24/07
The exact same thing could be said about Windows, though.  D. W. Bierbaum | 05/24/07
That is a huge obstacle  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
You make a good point Cheryl  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
weak excuse  ruped24 | 05/25/07
Blogging ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Meh. Jargon is for those with no imagination.  odubtaig | 05/26/07
"when it became easy"?  Ole Man | 05/26/07
Blogging...  AmraLeo | 06/08/07
About 1.5 years ago I only knew that Linux existed  I. Kidya Knott | 05/26/07
Correction  I. Kidya Knott | 05/26/07
Geeky  cheesyone | 06/05/07
Using thier logic  Linux User 147560 | 05/23/07
Windows is too geeky  notsofast | 05/24/07
What massive change?  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Quick: How many people know what a "graphical shell" is?  CobraA1 | 05/23/07
(NT) Same thing as a swappable GUI?  Jack-Booted EULA | 05/24/07
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BB4Win  macoafi | 06/04/07
Yes, Linux is STILL VERY GEEKY  Narg | 05/24/07
Geeky maybe, but not in that area  jthorell@... | 05/24/07
Not in that area  cheesyone | 06/05/07
RE: Yes, Linux is STILL VERY GEEKY  GreyGeek | 05/24/07
Whoo! Where have you been?!?  odubtaig | 05/26/07
Too geeky - yeah, right...  Mitch 74 | 05/24/07
Quick, ask a dozen average users ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Actually .Net is more like the lovechild of Java and Obj-C  odubtaig | 05/26/07
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Is that not just relative perspective?  LazLong | 05/24/07
Since you are miles and miles and miles away  Ole Man | 05/26/07
hardly anything comes with KDE out of the box now  stevey_d | 05/30/07
I would differ or disagree...  LazLong | 05/30/07
Help, Help, Help, Linux has a useless Help  don_the_newbie | 06/11/07
Not Eventually! Now!  Tsu Dho Nimh | 05/23/07
2 questions  Badgered | 05/23/07
2 Answers  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/23/07
re: 2 Answers  Badgered | 05/23/07
Keep in mind  Freebird54 | 05/23/07
That's great  Badgered | 05/24/07
I ahev to agree ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Is that like "teh" Or t3h  LazLong | 05/30/07
But not a very good one  frgough | 05/23/07
BTW  frgough | 05/23/07
huh ? I've been technical writing for 14 years.  dhudson_z | 05/24/07
No you don't  Linux User 147560 | 05/23/07
And who wants that?  notsofast | 05/24/07
Which would be great, except...  KWierso | 05/24/07
But before you could drive your car  Linux User 147560 | 05/24/07
True  lutherlarry | 05/24/07
And what if it isn't?  Linux User 147560 | 05/24/07
While you're right, Linux-User...  lutherlarry | 05/24/07
"If a person has basic Windows skills"  Ole Man | 05/26/07
"not a very good one"  Ole Man | 05/23/07
Writing for geeks, not noobs  Tsu Dho Nimh | 05/23/07
understandable  Badgered | 05/24/07
Why go into details?  Ole Man | 05/24/07
We're not discussing my limitations  Badgered | 05/24/07
Sorry, I didn't mean to get "snippy"  Ole Man | 05/26/07
Good point  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
I'm probably a LITTLE better than average  mdsmedia | 05/26/07
I should probably, at this point, bring up the command line silly  odubtaig | 05/26/07
One more answer  Hempman | 05/24/07
90%  cheesyone | 06/05/07
I know many users  Ole Man | 05/23/07
So....  Badgered | 05/24/07
We're not discussing what I make  Ole Man | 05/24/07
Wrong question  lutherlarry | 05/24/07
"If they're happy with Windows now"  Ole Man | 05/24/07
In the long run, it doesn't much matter  lutherlarry | 05/25/07
"Where's the CARROTT"??!!!???  mdsmedia | 05/26/07
Free doesn't mean very much.  lutherlarry | 05/30/07
2 Answers: RTFM and RTFM  Tsu Dho Nimh | 05/23/07
Honestly  Badgered | 05/24/07
We get it....we get it  Ole Man | 05/24/07
Hence the problem  Badgered | 05/24/07
http://ubuntuforums.org/  KWierso | 05/24/07
If that were the case  Ole Man | 05/24/07
................  Badgered | 05/25/07
The average user  Ole Man | 05/26/07
and another potential linux user turns away  Busay | 05/24/07
Precisely  lutherlarry | 05/24/07
"There is hypocrisy in the Linux community"  Ole Man | 05/24/07
in that case  Badgered | 05/25/07
"in that case"  Ole Man | 05/25/07
Ain't that the problem  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
"How many average home users do you know"  Ole Man | 05/26/07
Don't get RTFM?  cheesyone | 06/05/07
thanx for saying what i think is the problem...  dhudson_z | 05/24/07
I disagree  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Just goes to prove  Ole Man | 05/26/07
Google Docs is good enough for me  stevey_d | 05/30/07
Getting apps to work in Ubuntu  grichardt@... | 06/20/07
I agree, on all 3 (4) points.  Stuka | 05/23/07
And that's the key  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
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Windows people want Linux better, too.  ejhonda | 05/23/07
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Good Attitude  jazzchamp@... | 05/30/07
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Not for apps either  Freebird54 | 05/23/07
The 'Freedom' of open source...  keepu | 05/24/07
*.deb  KWierso | 05/24/07
Nvidia  cheesyone | 06/05/07
Problem  tobias2143@... | 05/23/07
Burn ISO image.  People | 05/23/07
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Interestingly enough  John L. Ries | 05/23/07
again...lazy....  dhudson_z | 05/24/07
"dealing with people here"  Ole Man | 05/24/07
Just for fun  Badgered | 05/23/07
I'm quite sure  Ole Man | 05/25/07
Good point ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Luckily  Freebird54 | 05/23/07
Unfortunately  Michael Kelly | 05/23/07
915resolution  pjotr123 | 05/23/07
Tried that  Michael Kelly | 05/23/07
Did you try  Linux User 147560 | 05/23/07
Actually you're the reason why I tried Kubuntu  Michael Kelly | 05/23/07
Hangs head in shame...  Linux User 147560 | 05/24/07
Hey don't be sorry  Michael Kelly | 05/24/07
And besides  Michael Kelly | 05/23/07
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Guess what  tombalablomba | 05/24/07
Install?  cheesyone | 06/05/07
What's so diffcult,? Just wait...  philipralban@... | 05/24/07
Ever partition Windows?  I. Kidya Knott | 05/27/07
Data Appliance  Tom in Toronto | 05/24/07
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Ubuntu 7.04 works fine for me  CoglinIT | 05/24/07
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No money to be made from inherent insecurity.  gotitright | 05/24/07
Out of curiosity  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Not a lot, but I do my share...  henklaak | 07/09/07
Damn, your friends suck silly  odubtaig | 05/26/07
One thing people don't get about the Linux community  Michael Kelly | 05/23/07
Linux, "It's not about conquering the world"  jacarter3 | 05/23/07
Adrian's a good guy  Michael Kelly | 05/23/07
I am not panning Adrian, per se  jacarter3 | 05/23/07
It's like Dr Pepper and Green Day  letranger66 | 05/24/07
Linux, "It's not about conquering the world"  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Anymore  LazLong | 05/25/07
It's not?  odubtaig | 05/26/07
I Agree With You, Of Course There's A But....  IAHawkeye | 05/23/07
AMEN  cwhull | 05/31/07
that's M$ FUD & propaganda!  Linux Geek | 05/23/07
Shut up, fool.  James T. Kirk | 05/23/07
What's this jibber jabber?  odubtaig | 05/26/07
But, in any regard, we need to thank Adrian for this discussion, it will  DonnieBoy | 05/23/07
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I've never heard of a real user  Michael Kelly | 05/23/07
Not just who fixes it, but will it stay fixed?  macoafi | 06/04/07
Clearly we disagree  John L. Ries | 05/23/07
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M$ is the Dark$ide...  Media-Ted@... | 05/24/07
I hear tell  Ole Man | 05/26/07
You're welcome  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
really?  Badgered | 05/23/07
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..........  Badgered | 05/30/07
You don't get it  notsofast | 05/23/07
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Not saying much for your admin abilities  Ole Man | 05/26/07
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What an aassumption  Freebird54 | 05/23/07
You prove his point completely  Chippolus | 05/24/07
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If that was the best simile  Ole Man | 05/25/07
One "t", singular "eye", and metaphor  Timpraetor | 05/30/07
Thank you for the correction  Ole Man | 06/02/07
Again, don't shoot the messenger here. We need to discuss all of the issues  DonnieBoy | 05/23/07
No question  Michael Kelly | 05/23/07
Why the need to promote Linux adoption  jacarter3 | 05/23/07
Who hired the level-headed thinker?  Patanjali | 05/23/07
A lot  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Yeah, but  Ole Man | 05/26/07
Shaking in our boots  Ole Man | 05/26/07
And so it is.  TtfnJohn | 05/23/07
Geek names  Patanjali | 05/23/07
Agree  jmorgus@... | 05/24/07
Clarification  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Three more things that the Linux community doesn't get  Loverock Davidson | 05/23/07
talk about hypocrit  Monkey_MCSE | 05/23/07
Lets talk about them  Loverock Davidson | 05/23/07
"why people are choosing not to use linux"  Jack-Booted EULA | 05/23/07
Perhaps your hatred if better direct towards the Unix community?  B.O.F.H. | 05/23/07
*YAWN*  Loverock Davidson | 05/23/07
Loverock Davidson is a Windows user that can spell BSD.  B.O.F.H. | 05/23/07
I don't think you did  Loverock Davidson | 05/23/07
I have read your posts, most of them are trolls.  B.O.F.H. | 05/23/07
Unlike yours, they are not  Loverock Davidson | 05/23/07
Ok Loverock, I set the bar too high for you... sorry.  B.O.F.H. | 05/23/07
ROFLMAO!  Zeppo9191 | 05/23/07
you're funny  sjaaxken | 05/24/07
Linux!=the free software movement  John L. Ries | 05/23/07
No kidding  Loverock Davidson | 05/23/07
"linux users and their hatred towards all things that aren't linux"  Jack-Booted EULA | 05/23/07
It's not just here  Loverock Davidson | 05/23/07
In other words...  John L. Ries | 05/23/07
look out, Linux avalanche  ruped24 | 05/23/07
There are any  Freebird54 | 05/23/07
Forgotten Reason  Master Dingo | 05/23/07
Right On.  IAHawkeye | 05/23/07
Linux isn't an organization  shis-ka-bob | 05/23/07
There is currently  Freebird54 | 05/23/07
Yes, the forgotten reason  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Not a forgotten reason  Ole Man | 05/25/07
I hate to break it to you but...  odubtaig | 05/26/07
Trying ain't doing  Master Dingo | 05/30/07
Windows is fine for kiddies  Ole Man | 06/03/07
I thought this debate was about 'things we don't get', not have we done yet  odubtaig | 06/04/07
Thus, I still continue to use Windows.  Grayson Peddie | 05/23/07
if it make you happy  tombalablomba | 05/23/07
WIndows Live?!  Stuka | 05/23/07
Your advocating for Linux won't work for me.  Grayson Peddie | 05/23/07
I didn't  Stuka | 05/23/07
pathetic, to say the least.  Monkey_MCSE | 05/23/07
Another proving #2 reason.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/23/07
Your insult is good!  Grayson Peddie | 05/23/07
Wiped off?! (NT)  Stuka | 05/23/07
Must be a new Microsoft term  Ole Man | 05/25/07
You give Windows User a bad name  voska | 05/23/07
Another reason ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
So?  Ole Man | 05/25/07
Why the need to rant foolishly?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/23/07
Good Question!  Ole Man | 05/25/07
Really now?  Duke E. Love | 05/24/07
poor grayson...  Monkey_MCSE | 05/23/07
Thank you for playing.  Grayson Peddie | 05/23/07
Reason #2 proven to be true.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/23/07
Retraining  omega_mann | 05/23/07
Vista will require retraining too  Tsu Dho Nimh | 05/24/07
Because you don't need to retrain on applications  ReadernewCanvas | 05/24/07
And that doesn't happen with Windows apps? Yeah, right.  jthorell@... | 05/24/07
Plea$e $top u$ing the money $ign!  butler360 | 05/24/07
Why?  Ole Man | 05/24/07
Good point  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Could this be the reason?  Ole Man | 05/25/07
Logical conclusion ...  MisterMiester | 05/23/07
Oh really?  Confused by religion | 05/23/07
Just a different stage ...  MisterMiester | 05/23/07
That laughter you hear  jacarter3 | 05/23/07
Eh?  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
8 things in 2 days?  ruped24 | 05/23/07
Real World  combrink | 05/23/07
the point is, you can count + 1 til the cows come home...  ruped24 | 05/23/07
more excuses  ruped24 | 05/23/07
Some of his points are valid  Freebird54 | 05/23/07
Linux ins the machine room is one thing ...  mwagner@... | 05/24/07
Nonsense  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
How do we distinguish?  Ole Man | 05/25/07
maybe you're underestimating the impact of Vista on the marketplace  stevey_d | 05/30/07
I like Linux *because* it's geeky  John L. Ries | 05/23/07
Agreed ...  MisterMiester | 05/23/07
A similar situation  Freebird54 | 05/23/07
Free tech support a reason to switch.  enduser_z | 05/23/07
You've summed it up  tombalablomba | 05/23/07
My Linux problem  teqjack@... | 05/23/07
could you be more specific?  tombalablomba | 05/23/07
which app which distro  eric__m | 05/23/07
My problem is  tombalablomba | 05/24/07
Ah!! The joys of "so called" dependency hell.  Duke E. Love | 05/24/07
Unrelated to the blog.  enduser_z | 05/24/07
I was responding to a post and not the blog  Duke E. Love | 05/24/07
He didn't change the context.  enduser_z | 05/24/07
You are absolutely right  Duke E. Love | 05/24/07
In other words  Ole Man | 05/24/07
Yep  Duke E. Love | 05/25/07
In your dreams  Ole Man | 05/26/07
Thinking the same thing  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Package Mgmt Systems, repositories.  enduser_z | 05/23/07
Me Too!  cls@... | 05/23/07
dependency hell  eric__m | 05/23/07
punter  ruped24 | 05/23/07
Rather odd  Freebird54 | 05/23/07
To say the least.  enduser_z | 05/23/07
Sorry you had such problems  Ole Man | 05/26/07
Click  D. T. Schmitz | 05/23/07
Power management and Wireless means Linux is horrible on laptops.  fauigerzigerk | 05/23/07
That was NOT my experience  jacarter3 | 05/23/07
Yes, it is a Real Problem  mejohnsn | 05/29/07
Apps? Easy as 1, 2, 3  lostinlodos | 05/23/07
I guess that's one way to look at it.  lutherlarry | 05/24/07
Thoughts?..Just one....  linux for me | 05/23/07
Did you forget the link?  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Adrian OS X is not completely closed source  mrlinux | 05/23/07
Depending on what platform ...  MisterMiester | 05/23/07
A lot of passion -  Master Dingo | 05/23/07
Have to agree on the Mac issue ...  George Mitchell | 05/23/07
Of course it takes time to learn KDE and Gnome  nmrtian | 05/23/07
Worth repeating about MS ecosystem ...  MisterMiester | 05/23/07
What rubbish...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/23/07
See what I mean ...  MisterMiester | 05/23/07
Only if your point was wrong.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/23/07
Never argue with an idiot...  Confused by religion | 05/23/07
Ouch ...  MisterMiester | 05/23/07
Well, considering  lutherlarry | 05/24/07
Answer a fool according to his folly...  John L. Ries | 05/23/07
That's not what he was talking about  John L. Ries | 05/23/07
You're correct, but ..  MisterMiester | 05/23/07
What rubbish indeed!  Freebird54 | 05/23/07
Rubbish? What Apps?  lostinlodos | 06/01/07
Let me get this straight  Badgered | 05/23/07
Well ...  MisterMiester | 05/23/07
Let me translate your post.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/23/07
You're still looking at this  Badgered | 05/23/07
OK  John L. Ries | 05/23/07
It doesn't  Badgered | 05/24/07
As I wrote to Cobra  John L. Ries | 05/24/07
I don't think you read the whole thing...  Freebird54 | 05/23/07
No, I read it  Badgered | 05/24/07
What he meant was (I think)  Ole Man | 05/24/07
I agree  Badgered | 05/29/07
Quite a few times  Ole Man | 06/02/07
Part of the solution ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Not too bright?  toadlife | 05/23/07
heh  CobraA1 | 05/23/07
Usage vs advocacy  John L. Ries | 05/23/07
Answers  CobraA1 | 05/23/07
In which case...  John L. Ries | 05/23/07
Yup  CobraA1 | 05/23/07
Semi true but mostly retarded...  Chippolus | 05/24/07
Kids, Games, Simple networking  kushko | 05/23/07
Access network filesystems...  mrlinux | 05/23/07
Yo, Adrian!  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/23/07
Good idea  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Geeky? Windows created the "Geek Squad"  cyber_rigger@... | 05/23/07
When did MS buy out CompUSA?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/23/07
People in glass houses ...  MisterMiester | 05/23/07
Do you really expect him to know that?  B.O.F.H. | 05/23/07
For the metaphor challenged  cyber_rigger@... | 05/23/07
Best Buy...  macoafi | 06/04/07
Some "Tech journalist" out of touch with reality...  LazLong | 05/23/07
"Well said, accurate and to the point!"  Ole Man | 05/26/07
Well said, accurate and to the point!  netzd | 05/23/07
Well you're right about Macs  maldain | 05/23/07
myth buster  ruped24 | 05/23/07
Agreed, but you still miss my talkback on the last article  CobraA1 | 05/23/07
and M$ listenes  ruped24 | 05/23/07
Some truth to this  John L. Ries | 05/23/07
Adrian, I think you are finally understanding...  Cornhead | 05/23/07
Want 750 more posts?  TonyMcS | 05/23/07
As compared to Windoze sucks?  Ole Man | 05/23/07
Too geeky? You ain't seen fsdb yet.  kraterz | 05/23/07
Geez are there any good points to Linux?  XJRider | 05/23/07
The answer is 'yes'. If linux is so bad and marginal, why all these blogs?  stevey_d | 05/30/07
On the whole  brokencrystal | 05/24/07
Desktop Linux is there depending on the function  tooCanad | 05/24/07
$$$$$  cheesyone | 06/05/07
Why People Don't Switch to Linux  celctictony | 05/24/07
punter  ruped24 | 05/24/07
Java's listed in Synaptic...  KWierso | 05/24/07
other reasons...  patibulo | 05/24/07
I'm NOW a Mac  editcorp | 05/24/07
Common Impressions of Linux Users  Dr_Zinj | 05/24/07
Why some Linux peeps will NEVER get it  dchase@... | 05/24/07
It's only an OS, it should be invisible to users  persia | 05/24/07
8 Reasons are only 5  dimonic | 05/24/07
Read "The UNIX Haters Handbook"  gerhart | 05/24/07
RE: Read "The UNIX Haters Handbook"  GreyGeek | 05/24/07
Chapter 7 of the Handbook vs. Linux  green[ | 05/24/07
Yes it is out of date, but ...  gerhart | 05/25/07
running older MS software...  ruped24 | 05/25/07
Elegence??  paul.bouchard@... | 05/24/07
8 Reasons are only 5  dimonic | 05/24/07
Confirmation of what I thought I knew!  boxman1 | 05/24/07
One More Thing  dimonic | 05/24/07
The OS Doesn't matter  theoldman59 | 05/24/07
The points are VALID. The idea is flawed.  Trent Black | 05/24/07
Too Geeky  vcjohns | 05/24/07
Even more to recommend Mac as an option  fmindlin | 05/24/07
Reasons the linux community comes over as "agressive"  sjaaxken | 05/24/07
Well,...  mustang_z | 05/24/07
Wasting time?  Linux User 147560 | 05/24/07
Glad i've got my hip boots on now  Ole Man | 05/24/07
Linux users are bullies!  green[ | 05/24/07
Preposterous!  Ole Man | 06/03/07
Bullied on the internet...  butler360 | 05/24/07
being hostile  sjaaxken | 05/26/07
Microsoft vs Open source comedy  tserra@... | 05/24/07
nice try  flyingace | 05/24/07
Linux needs a common way to install apps  uncledonnyboy | 05/24/07
Linux and Windows Shells  nydas | 05/24/07
I've used all 3 OSes in story  okeefe@... | 05/24/07
Linu$ Torvald$  butler360 | 05/24/07
ASK THE COMPUTER STORE TO SHOW YOU LINUX RUNNING FIRST  BALTHOR | 05/24/07
Ask to see LINUX runing the software YOU need  Hempman | 05/24/07
Nonsense.  enduser_z | 05/24/07
Really?  Linux User 147560 | 05/24/07
Yes!  mustang_z | 05/24/07
If Linux wants to win the hearts and minds  Apache19 | 05/24/07
Wow!  okeefe@... | 05/24/07
At least the caveman would have a valid reason for resisting change  D. W. Bierbaum | 05/24/07
Very good point  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
MacOS does have an open-source listing called Darwin. you have to agree to  wessonjoe | 05/24/07
I was just saying that to McAfee  Hempman | 05/24/07
Linux users must not understand  wiestika | 05/24/07
You don't have to understand to use Ubuntu Linux  D. W. Bierbaum | 05/24/07
Ubuntu has better tech support than windows....  carbonred | 05/24/07
Typing an emial is not the same as editing a video  Hempman | 05/24/07
What is your point about photoshop and Avid Liquid?  D. W. Bierbaum | 05/24/07
Eh?  KWierso | 05/24/07
Put down the bong.  enduser_z | 05/25/07
I'd be lost with photoshop, but I've spent time learning GIMP  stevey_d | 05/30/07
Mac NOT entirely closed source...  Resuna | 05/24/07
What apps does the average PC user use?  steveo_kenevo | 05/24/07
The Dumbing Down of America  etkinsd@... | 05/24/07
Americans are lazy now...  Linux User 147560 | 05/25/07
It's not a generalization?  Badgered | 05/25/07
tRu dat  ruped24 | 05/25/07
You're right  lutherlarry | 05/24/07
from the other side  ruped24 | 05/24/07
Good Link!  Ole Man | 05/24/07
Thanks for the link ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
2 things the Linux community does get  crystala1@... | 05/24/07
For Those who may have not yet seen the LXer rebuttal.  LazLong | 05/24/07
Think I'll have to reply to that post next week ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Things the Linux Community doesn't get  wheelerc@... | 05/24/07
The benefits of being tri-system  mikifinaz1@... | 05/24/07
Incentive?  epcraig | 05/24/07
Human Interfaces  stomfi@... | 05/24/07
More Misundersdtandings  LKEEL | 05/24/07
punter  ruped24 | 05/24/07
The one thing Windows users don't get about Linux community  ppyo | 05/24/07
What I do get  deadowl | 05/24/07
Pity the real M$ killer was lost to mismanagement  NZJester | 05/24/07
Geeky and some is the problem. KDE what?  pintree3 | 05/24/07
Three more things  chrisne4@... | 05/24/07
Three more things  chrisne4@... | 05/25/07
Geeky?  djchandler | 05/25/07
The Mac is perceived as cool and sexy...  steverush | 05/25/07
No geek  Rhodie | 05/25/07
its not the 'system', it's the 'victim'.  BoGoWo | 05/25/07
Use it or lose it  I. Kidya Knott | 05/28/07
Linux being Geeky and complicated  PhilM | 05/25/07
Yeah, Gnome2 is great  stevey_d | 05/30/07
Why I won't touch Linux  qoc1166@... | 05/25/07
why not still use CPM?  ruped24 | 05/25/07
"terms that are pure gibberish to me"  Ole Man | 05/25/07
nothing for you to learn  firepages | 05/26/07
Linux  fastcopycenter@... | 05/25/07
"Microsoft's police state"?  Ole Man | 05/25/07
Failure to Communicate...  LazLong | 05/25/07
In the long run, I don't much care...  lutherlarry | 05/25/07
Linux  grump@... | 05/25/07
And how many times have you tried to install Windows?  ppyo | 05/25/07
Just try a bootable linux cd like Puppy Linux or Knoppix  stevey_d | 05/30/07
Duh..Gee Adrian! U don't know MUCH YOU! Even Dell sells Linux! wink  i2fun@... | 05/25/07
Newsflash  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 05/25/07
Not LIVE from CD/DVD you can't!!! wink  i2fun@... | 05/26/07
Three more things that the Linux community don't get  leewen@... | 05/26/07
What Windows users need is..  mdsmedia | 05/26/07
Gotta agree!  sherlockwatson@... | 05/26/07
You can lead a horse to water  Ole Man | 05/26/07
Sometimes the horse doesn't know what it's drinking!  BobF_z | 05/30/07
Must have been a smart bunch  Ole Man | 06/02/07
How does one turn open source into closed souce,  HypnoToad72 | 05/26/07
Owning all the copyright helps,  odubtaig | 05/26/07
I apologise.  odubtaig | 05/26/07
It's a supporter thing  stomfi@... | 05/28/07
A hundred things zdnet bloggers don't get about linux  stevey_d | 05/30/07
Then you're either  notsofast | 05/30/07
read these links  stevey_d | 05/30/07
Linux is worth trying for the sake of your wallet!  lamapper | 01/02/09
Huzzah!  papajon_s | 05/30/07
*Linux* isn't too geeky, Linux geeks are.  Sodbuster41 | 05/30/07
Only one reason  vgraybeard@... | 05/30/07
linux only?  w3nd13 | 05/30/07
Exactly!  bobsherrill@... | 06/01/07
Excellent!  paul.bounds@... | 05/31/07
Linux doesn't get it hmmm.  sbmpsm@... | 06/01/07
DOS was also VERY Geeky  bobsherrill@... | 06/01/07
Not in my experiance  MR_DE_01@... | 06/01/07
Whats so difficult???  MR_DE_01@... | 06/01/07
didn't finish what i was saying lol  MR_DE_01@... | 06/01/07
Not much really......  LazLong | 06/01/07
Other Reasons That You Forgot  stheffner@... | 06/02/07
When you need a hammer  Ole Man | 06/03/07
The 6th thing Linux Users Dont Get!  zczc2311 | 06/03/07
Actually it's just the opposite  Ole Man | 06/03/07
And now you'll be disparaged for your beliefs  Boot_Agnostic | 06/04/07
Ew, Macs...  macoafi | 06/04/07
The PC has changed  DonG43 | 06/07/07
Choosing a suitable Linux  tracy anne | 06/08/07
The Mac OS is perceived as being cool and sexy.  tracy anne | 06/08/07
Not too Geeky?????  huehueteot | 06/09/07
Geeze, gimmie a break...  divers3 | 06/09/07
Does it work?  spincitysd@... | 06/11/07
Does it work?  spincitysd@... | 06/11/07
How do most people use their computers?  shouldabeen@... | 06/13/07
My 2 cents  mark16_15@... | 06/14/07
Response to LINUX vs Windows  Apollo21 | 06/18/07
"the person leading the project said it might run a version of Windows"  turgenev | 06/21/07
It's the Desktop Search Stupid!  SpectateSwamp | 06/25/07
There are many different routes  genefitz1976 | 09/04/07
RE: Three more things that the Linux community don't get  TracyF | 12/27/07
RE: Three more things that the Linux community don't get  lamapper | 01/02/09
RE: Three more things that the Linux community don't get  lamapper | 01/02/09
RE: Three more things that the Linux community don't get  MetaPhaze | 04/02/09
RE: Three more things that the Linux community don't get  MetaPhaze | 04/02/09
RE: Three more things that the Linux community don't get  MetaPhaze | 04/02/09
Ubuntu not quite there yet for me either  Shinsengumi | 04/14/09

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