No
toadlife | 04/24/07
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I agree 100% toadlife
Scrat | 04/25/07
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so scrat your saying
SO.CAL Guy | 04/25/07
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No, I'm not saying that at all! Re-read the post
Scrat | 04/26/07
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Prove it...
fr0thy2. | 04/25/07
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BSD Password file
jc williams | 04/26/07
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Compareing to most MS Windows XP, yes!
Jxn | 04/27/07
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No, they're not in denial... just generally more secure
merlin747 | 04/24/07
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Key words: "Years ago"
ye | 04/24/07
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You can hypothesize about ratios all you want,
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 04/24/07
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There are 10,000 "facts" backing up what I said.
ye | 04/24/07
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Ok, again let me see some facts that support both,
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 04/24/07
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The $10,000
toadlife | 04/24/07
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Yes, sure it may have helped him,
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 04/24/07
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Oh for Christ's sake jaytheo, WAKE UP
Scrat | 04/25/07
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Oh, geez, here we go again,
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 04/25/07
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Careful there
toadlife | 04/24/07
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Putting the words 'logic' and 'ZDNet'...
Scrat | 04/25/07
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The hacking contest was a sham!
MacGeek2121 | 04/25/07
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How is it 1000 times safer?
ye | 04/25/07
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Well
Len Rooney | 04/25/07
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User Interaction?
wcb42ad | 04/25/07
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In answer to your question
rpmyers1 | 04/24/07
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I stand corrected...
ye | 04/24/07
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You never do any research , you just start foaming at the mouth.
Intellihence | 04/24/07
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Pot. Kettle. Black.
M.R. Kennedy | 04/24/07
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If anything this same issue affects Windows users .
Intellihence | 04/25/07
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OK, but
Len Rooney | 04/25/07
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Crystal Balls are unreliable
fuzzy2k | 04/25/07
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wow you do have a good magic 8 ball!
jjarman | 04/25/07
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People like you aren't in denial - just ignorant
toadlife | 04/24/07
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Prove it
fr0thy2. | 04/25/07
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As long as...
D. T. Schmitz | 04/24/07
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Well said
jc williams | 04/26/07
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More perpetuating myths
tic swayback | 04/24/07
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Here are the facts:
ye | 04/24/07
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Maybe, because no one else looked exactly where he did. (nt)
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 04/24/07
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Why didn't he look earlier?
ye | 04/24/07
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Nobody said he waited till that day to look for exploits.
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 04/24/07
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He wasn't looking for exploits, he was looking for vulnerabilties
ye | 04/24/07
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Sorry, Nobody said he waited till that day to look for vulnerabilities.
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 04/24/07
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It's not the vulnerability that's of interest.
ye | 04/24/07
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Actually, what you were implying earlier, was that there was no interest,
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 04/24/07
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He's the only one that matters right now.
ye | 04/25/07
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Funny thing you didn't get to mention .
Intellihence | 04/24/07
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So do most organized attacks
fr0thy2. | 04/25/07
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You never answerd Tic Swaybacks question . Why ?
Intellihence | 04/24/07
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Why, why, why?
tic swayback | 04/24/07
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Talk to Leopard Boy
M.R. Kennedy | 04/24/07
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Harder to find OS X flaws?
ye | 04/25/07
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No, he didn't
tic swayback | 04/25/07
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Who cares if it's in OS X?
ye | 04/25/07
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Very nicely put and VERY true!!
NonZealot | 04/25/07
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Accuracy is important
tic swayback | 04/25/07
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Mac users consider vulnerabilities in Office flaws in Windows
ye | 04/25/07
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I would LOVE to see this conversation!!
NonZealot | 04/25/07
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Sort of
tic swayback | 04/25/07
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No, I wouldn't say...
ye | 04/25/07
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Be fair
tic swayback | 04/25/07
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I've suggest the most likely reason already: Lack of incentive
ye | 04/25/07
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What incentive is lacking?
tic swayback | 04/25/07
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re: What incentive is lacking
Badgered | 04/25/07
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I can't answer that.
ye | 04/25/07
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Now I'm confused
tic swayback | 04/25/07
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You CANNOT remove IE from Windows!
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 04/25/07
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Thanks
tic swayback | 04/26/07
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Nobody makes those distinctions when it's a WMP or IE bug
notsofast | 04/25/07
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Easy answer
tic swayback | 04/25/07
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Double Standard?
wcb42ad | 04/25/07
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Because you guys are allegedly better than us
tic swayback | 04/25/07
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With that statement you've just increased Windows security almost...
ye | 04/25/07
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Re: tic
frgough | 04/25/07
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Naming one
tic swayback | 04/25/07
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Show me an exploit for either that...
ye | 04/25/07
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Myth building ala Microsoft-style
YinToYourYang-22527499 | 04/24/07
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Myth building YinToYourYang style
M.R. Kennedy | 04/24/07
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This article is talking about Mac users, not Apple
YinToYourYang-22527499 | 04/25/07
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Excellent point about the article.
jjarman | 04/25/07
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CanSecWest sponsor(s)
3D0G | 04/25/07
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Sorry, no
tic swayback | 04/25/07
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Agreed
3D0G | 04/25/07
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Who cares if Microsoft sponsored it or not?
ye | 04/25/07
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You have to 'consider the source'
comp_indiana | 04/25/07
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Source is irrelevant.
ye | 04/25/07
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Honest question
frgough | 04/25/07
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I am not aware of any.
ye | 04/25/07
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So...
rapson | 04/25/07
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Typical...
fr0thy2. | 04/25/07
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I have to agree with you... ... maybe windows users are underconfident
el1jones | 04/25/07
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maybe windows users are underconfident
SO.CAL Guy | 04/25/07
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Common sense
tic swayback | 04/25/07
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No
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 04/24/07
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Don't sweat it man .
Intellihence | 04/24/07
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Misinterpretation
3D0G | 04/24/07
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Nothing false about it
tic swayback | 04/24/07
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What I meant...
3D0G | 04/25/07
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Some justification
tic swayback | 04/25/07
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Mac Like Private Schools
fr0thy2. | 04/25/07
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Patches mean attacks?
tic swayback | 04/25/07
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This Mac user is just realistic, dunno about the rest.
Fred Fredrickson | 04/24/07
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Mac is taking marketshare away from Windows
comp_indiana | 04/25/07
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While you frothing at the mouth
fr0thy2. | 04/25/07
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Excellant! Very Well Said
fr0thy2. | 04/25/07
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Apple Security
brble | 04/24/07
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Being too generous
YinToYourYang-22527499 | 04/24/07
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Being too Mac-centric
brble | 04/25/07
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2 Solutions to Settliing the OS X security Question
rolla_ifs@... | 04/24/07
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re:2 Solutions to Settliing the OS X security Question
Intellihence | 04/24/07
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This has nothing to do with Microsoft, stay on the topic thread
Scrat | 04/25/07
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Here is my proof , now put up or shut up .
Intellihence | 04/25/07
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Not at all.
Scrat | 04/25/07
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This has everything to do with Microsoft (as stated in the ARTICLE)...
el1jones | 04/25/07
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Don't be so ridiculous to stoop to new levels of low
Scrat | 04/25/07
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... said the Troll (nt)
el1jones | 04/25/07
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No answer huh? Thought so...
Scrat | 04/26/07
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How often do you beat your wife?
comp_indiana | 04/25/07
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agree
jjarman | 04/25/07
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How much?
crash89 | 04/25/07
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Mac hack also affects windows !
Intellihence | 04/25/07
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See Intellihence, even other Mac users think you are retarded...
Scrat | 04/25/07
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I am a Mac user and I find him embarrassing.
ye | 04/25/07
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I would like to agree, BUT...
el1jones | 04/25/07
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Opinions are like a**holes. Everyone has one.
YinToYourYang-22527499 | 04/24/07
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True
dolph0291 | 04/25/07
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Adrian, I think his name is Dino Dai Zovi (NT)
Scrat | 04/25/07
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Spelling corrected
David Grober | 04/25/07
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Actually, no, you didn't correct it.
Scrat | 04/25/07
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Just to put the record straight
Scrat | 04/25/07
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So in reality...
tic swayback | 04/25/07
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Evidence Tic?
Scrat | 04/25/07
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Are we reading the same talkbacks?
tic swayback | 04/25/07
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Can you point out one....
el1jones | 04/25/07
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Apple didn't parade OS X, CANSECWEST set up a publicity stunt *NM*
comp_indiana | 04/25/07
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Okay
dolph0291 | 04/25/07
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Get a life
robbyx | 04/25/07
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Setting the record even straighter
NonZealot | 04/25/07
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Could you back that up NZ?
Scrat | 04/25/07
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This hack used the shell
NonZealot | 04/25/07
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The hack used Quicktime and Java
Scrat | 04/25/07
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Reread what I wrote
NonZealot | 04/25/07
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PLEASE
dolph0291 | 04/25/07
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re: PLEASE
Badgered | 04/25/07
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So...
UbiquitousGeek | 04/25/07
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hold on a minute
glennyboiwpg | 04/25/07
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I deffinitly think Mac users are in denial...
ju1ce | 04/25/07
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Microsoft's fatwah against Apple
YinToYourYang-22527499 | 04/25/07
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Marketshare
robbyx | 04/25/07
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SELinux / AppArmor
D. T. Schmitz | 04/25/07
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Ridiculous parroting...
decuser | 04/25/07
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hurray a brain
jjarman | 04/25/07
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Brilliant!
robbyx | 04/25/07
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Why is it ridiculous?
eb276 | 04/25/07
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good question
jjarman | 04/25/07
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amazing
decuser | 04/26/07
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It's the software stack, stupid!
financegozu | 04/25/07
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Why the poor articles ZDNet?
jjarman | 04/25/07
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This was a rigged test
jsheeha@... | 04/25/07
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Yes and no.
Resuna | 04/25/07
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Macintosh: Security Through Obscurity
SteveMak | 04/25/07
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Crap
robbyx | 04/25/07
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Stop the Denial!!
ehielema@... | 04/25/07
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Denial?
mlindl | 04/25/07
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Mac OS X is still better than Windows
jradzano@... | 04/25/07
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Apple needs to make security its #1 priority
robbyx | 04/25/07
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No Root or Admin Access
robbyx | 04/25/07
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First of all they had to "dumb-down" the contest after the 1st day
usc1801 | 04/25/07
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Fact or Crap? Crap.
UbiquitousGeek | 04/25/07
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Well, it took the hacker long enough
labarker | 04/25/07
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Must be nice to have so few problems that you can be in denial...
jjarman | 04/25/07
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Macs are simply safer
hriik | 04/25/07
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The end is coming soon(er)
shenefeltg@... | 04/25/07
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They are indeed in denial.
angrykeyboarder | 04/26/07
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Mac security...
davekenz@... | 04/26/07
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In Denial
jstrings@... | 04/26/07
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Critical mass - believe it!
jstrings@... | 04/26/07
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Bring it on, YOU HACK!!
JoeBob_z | 04/27/07
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