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Sadly, it falls short of my needs
I have a spreadsheet that works beautifully in Excel.
It's unbelievably slow for OpenOffice Calc. 12
minutes to open, each drop down takes 2 minutes to
register.

No scripts, just formulas.
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Sadly, it falls short of my needs  Ad Astra | 10/13/08
I believe the reason is ...  MisterMiester | 10/14/08
BS  frgough | 10/14/08
You need to get out more ...  MisterMiester | 10/14/08
Relative comparisons of file performance  Ad Astra | 10/14/08
I have no idea ....  MisterMiester | 10/14/08
yes, something simple  markbn | 10/14/08
Ah, forum based support.  Ad Astra | 10/14/08
Your Solution.  kozmcrae | 10/14/08
Why does OO take 2 minutes to update a drop down menu?  aussieblnd@... | 10/14/08
It works with no lag in Excel  Ad Astra | 10/14/08
Those famous hidden API calls to make MS look good and competitors bad....  fr0thy2 | 10/14/08
RE: Why does OO take 2 minutes to update a drop down menu?  ahumeniy | 10/14/08
Translation  daengbo | 10/14/08
Office 2003 or Office 2007 formats?  B.O.F.H. | 10/14/08
The file is in Excel 2003  Ad Astra | 10/14/08
Consider this...  Mitch 74 | 10/14/08
Thank you for the lesson!  Linux User 147560 | 10/14/08
I found it interesting and helpful  spookyone1 | 10/22/08
The Real Issue is that...  notlehs | 10/14/08
Java has been JIT-compiled for quite some time now.  Joel R | 10/15/08
errr... no.  Mitch 74 | 10/16/08
Thanks, Mitch - comments inline.  Ad Astra | 10/14/08
RE: Thanks, Mitch - comments inline.  richdave | 10/14/08
I'll answer both here...  Mitch 74 | 10/16/08
Actually, you're going about the problem  alaniane@... | 10/22/08
Can you try this...  TripleII | 10/14/08
And saving a distributed worksheet in two formats makes sense why?  Ad Astra | 10/14/08
So native performance helps.  TripleII | 10/14/08
Yes, it does.  Ad Astra | 10/14/08
Maybe  daengbo | 10/14/08
Re: Sadly ... short of my needs  FL Guy | 10/14/08
One truly sees the problem.  deowll | 10/14/08
A few annoying bugs  DonRupertBitByte | 10/13/08
Spell checker  patibulo | 10/14/08
Depends on Office source langauge...  pico_D | 10/14/08
I have found this as well  914four | 10/15/08
Re: Annoying Bugs..  zdnet@... | 10/14/08
RE: Annoying Bugs  zdnet@... | 10/14/08
RE: OK, now OpenOffice is definitely good enough  ravi16aug@... | 10/14/08
Why don't you make all your docs  rikasa | 10/14/08
This is crazy  ravi16aug@... | 10/14/08
Crazy? It worked for MS  iTeaBoy | 10/14/08
Actually...  wolf_z | 10/14/08
Precisely  frgough | 10/14/08
Sorry...  iTeaBoy | 10/14/08
So, what you are saying...  pico_D | 10/14/08
If you'd bother to look I replied to the 'This is Crazy' post  iTeaBoy | 10/14/08
So your saying....  ShadowGIATL | 10/14/08
A few questions  rikasa | 10/14/08
No, actually  daengbo | 10/14/08
Re: Actually  CTOSea | 10/14/08
Perfect Writer - yes!  bmeacham98@... | 10/14/08
The format thing is a problem  deowll | 10/14/08
OO can open damaged documents...  914four | 10/15/08
You can always  Linux User 147560 | 10/14/08
As does Office 2007...  Sleeper Service | 10/14/08
Highly Doubtful  asmoore82 | 10/14/08
You still need to add that feature...  Linux User 147560 | 10/14/08
By add the feature...  LiquidLearner | 10/14/08
All I have to do  Linux User 147560 | 10/14/08
Oh right....  Sleeper Service | 10/14/08
Back to bed for you again!  Linux User 147560 | 10/14/08
Bark bark bark! Woof! Yip!  Sleeper Service | 10/15/08
As does Office 2007...  aussieblnd@... | 10/14/08
Really?  Sleeper Service | 10/14/08
Life is Simple  asmoore82 | 10/14/08
Have you used version 3.0 ...  MisterMiester | 10/14/08
I have...  pico_D | 10/14/08
OpenOffice is definitely good enough  aussieblnd@... | 10/14/08
Then you can never upgrade Office.  TripleII | 10/14/08
From my own experience...  Mitch 74 | 10/14/08
Dup post  zdnet@... | 10/14/08
Good point.  deowll | 10/14/08
funny comments...  patibulo | 10/14/08
Um...  wolf_z | 10/14/08
Um ...  cwallen19803@... | 10/14/08
Nobody? Really?  akulkis | 10/15/08
Office 2007 supports ODF  LiquidLearner | 10/14/08
All the more reason...  storm14k | 10/14/08
Why do I get this feeling...  ShadowGIATL | 10/14/08
Install Both  chromeronin | 10/14/08
Two indivisible aspects.  kozmcrae | 10/14/08
What?  ShadowGIATL | 10/14/08
Uh yeah.  akulkis | 10/15/08
Well...  ShadowGIATL | 10/15/08
MSO 2007 will support ODF 1.1 in 2009  Mitch 74 | 10/14/08
MS in the process of supporting ODF and such.  deowll | 10/14/08
I liked 2.4, and now I'm eager for 3.0  pjotr123 | 10/14/08
Agreed. It works just fine and I can interchange files with folks  softwareFlunky | 10/14/08
But good enough for what?  Sleeper Service | 10/14/08
re: Large Business?  deaf_e_kate | 10/14/08
Large Business?  aussieblnd@... | 10/14/08
Well it wasn't going to be you.  Sleeper Service | 10/14/08
Exactly...  storm14k | 10/14/08
99% of those people...  Sleeper Service | 10/14/08
You can't edit a PDF?  deowll | 10/14/08
Just a question not a fight..... why not?  James Quinn | 10/14/08
The answer is  frgough | 10/14/08
I understand specialization mind you  James Quinn | 10/14/08
Agreed  frgough | 10/14/08
Why I haven't switched  Ad Astra | 10/14/08
Is that with 2.4 or 3.0? Both?  James Quinn | 10/14/08
It was with both.  Ad Astra | 10/14/08
Re-evaluate...  Mitch 74 | 10/14/08
Except all those issues showed up in 3.0 as well..  Ad Astra | 10/14/08
In my experience 2007 Word doesn't handle graphics well.  deowll | 10/14/08
That's easy.  kozmcrae | 10/14/08
My Experience  daengbo | 10/14/08
Same here  Mitch 74 | 10/18/08
Presentations sent to external customers...  914four | 10/15/08
I will need to look more closely  mdemuth | 10/14/08
Bingo.  Sleeper Service | 10/14/08
Exactly - questions are do we and why and the is the CBA - nt  USTechHead | 10/14/08
Sealed in  chromeronin | 10/14/08
But it will be.  Sleeper Service | 10/15/08
Define "large business"  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/14/08
So did they use it?  Sleeper Service | 10/14/08
Some did, some didn't  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/14/08
So how many?  Sleeper Service | 10/14/08
SME  zdnet@... | 10/14/08
From my experience I'd say Small Business  voska1 | 10/14/08
I've challenged everyone...  bjbrock | 10/14/08
Exactly!!  iTeaBoy | 10/14/08
With a recession ...  MisterMiester | 10/14/08
Yes.  kozmcrae | 10/14/08
The ribbon?  CobraA1 | 10/14/08
The ribbon sucks  frgough | 10/14/08
What don't you like about it?  CobraA1 | 10/14/08
"bypass"  b.bob | 10/14/08
Consistently frustrating  CobraA1 | 10/14/08
Nicely done - NT  USTechHead | 10/14/08
It steals too much desktop real estate ...  MisterMiester | 10/14/08
Minimize it then...  mikefarinha | 10/14/08
Shh...  Sleeper Service | 10/14/08
Problem is  j.m.galvin | 10/14/08
Very well ...  MisterMiester | 10/14/08
@ j.m.galvin - You said it better than I could ...  MisterMiester | 10/14/08
re:Sleeper... EXACTLY! nt  USTechHead | 10/14/08
Press Ctrl + F1  markbn | 10/14/08
Double click a tab, use the Quick Access Toolbar.  CobraA1 | 10/14/08
It restricts my workflow  frgough | 10/14/08
That amount of customization is extremely, extremely rare.  CobraA1 | 10/14/08
Agreed. The Ribbon is evil in every way...  pmiranda@... | 10/14/08
Searching through menus means you don't know...  bjbrock | 10/14/08
How does the ribbon help?  drobinow | 10/14/08
I've complained...  deowll | 10/14/08
Can I manage it?  People | 10/14/08
I agree  mikefarinha | 10/14/08
So, what's my prize? Here's four things.  Ad Astra | 10/14/08
Also it fails to lock you into Windows or Mac, plus all of those costs  fr0thy2 | 10/14/08
Ummm, if the apps are useless, they should be free.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/14/08
Ummm, if the apps are useless, they should be free.  aussieblnd@... | 10/14/08
Any bets we have same comments same  USTechHead | 10/14/08
Yes, Office 2007  zdnet@... | 10/14/08
On the off chance that you aren't a troll  Ad Astra | 10/14/08
Yes but...  914four | 10/15/08
Maybe 2 out of 4  TripleII | 10/14/08
Er, try again.  Ad Astra | 10/14/08
Few points.  TripleII | 10/14/08
Oddly enough one of the thing I don't like is saved edits.  deowll | 10/14/08
Good point.  TripleII | 10/14/08
I think you missed his point  daengbo | 10/14/08
Maybe I missed something...  ShadowGIATL | 10/15/08
That's what happens  akulkis | 10/15/08
Once again....  ShadowGIATL | 10/15/08
Forgot to add...  TripleII | 10/14/08
challenged everyone...  aussieblnd@... | 10/14/08
dats_ripe u spoke the truth  dats_ripe | 10/14/08
And more importantly : free upgrades  ctrlbrk | 10/18/08
Screenshots??  CobraA1 | 10/14/08
Not enough rows in Calc  nucrash | 10/14/08
Database . . .  CobraA1 | 10/14/08
Agreed.  bjbrock | 10/14/08
No  markbn | 10/14/08
Yup...  Sleeper Service | 10/14/08
Excuuse me?  CobraA1 | 10/14/08
and  markbn | 10/14/08
I agreed . . .  CobraA1 | 10/14/08
No dillweed!  Linux User 147560 | 10/14/08
Problem is  markbn | 10/14/08
Actaully, anyone with a brain would use a database.  B.O.F.H. | 10/14/08
Exactly ...  MisterMiester | 10/14/08
Exactly out of topic  markbn | 10/14/08
It's not out of topic...  MisterMiester | 10/14/08
Can you understand and reply my question?  markbn | 10/14/08
Work harder not smarter...  Linux User 147560 | 10/14/08
"Think fallaciously not better" is your mantra  markbn | 10/14/08
yes, MS = Work Harder, not smarter.  akulkis | 10/15/08
Go troll elsewhere  markbn | 10/15/08
Anybody with a brain will use it to think but obviously you don't have one  markbn | 10/14/08
And your brain can _just_ about manage your nervous system, nowt else  fr0thy2 | 10/14/08
You guess  markbn | 10/14/08
You really are reaching here, aren't you?  B.O.F.H. | 10/14/08
A database is not always the right tool!  rcarlsonherps | 10/14/08
My arguement is not database v. spreadsheet.  B.O.F.H. | 10/14/08
Let me summarize your arguments:  markbn | 10/14/08
RE: My arguement (sic) is not database v. spreadsheet.  markbn | 10/14/08
Spreadsheet vs Database is not absolute  mystic100 | 10/14/08
Let's make it easy  daengbo | 10/14/08
Agreement and Disagreement  markbn | 10/15/08
Yes and no...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/14/08
No, in typical  Linux User 147560 | 10/14/08
Ok, typical of limited people  markbn | 10/14/08
You insulted before, which I responded too above.  fr0thy2 | 10/14/08
Nope  markbn | 10/14/08
You insulted before, which I responded too above.  aussieblnd@... | 10/14/08
Seems you are the limited one here...  Linux User 147560 | 10/14/08
Your arguments just corroborate your limitations  markbn | 10/14/08
It's about efficiency  Li1t | 10/14/08
Nope, it's not about efficiency  markbn | 10/15/08
Shill / Astroturfer  akulkis | 10/15/08
I do not belong to your club  markbn | 10/15/08
To use similar logic...  914four | 10/15/08
Obviously your mechanic is ripping you off..  akulkis | 10/15/08
Precisely.  914four | 10/15/08
Calipers don't determine braking distance.  akulkis | 10/23/08
Don't know what you are talking about  markbn | 10/15/08
My point was...  914four | 10/15/08
You can use OO if you want  markbn | 10/15/08
Response to markbn  914four | 10/15/08
Response to 914four  markbn | 10/16/08
My former CFO  daengbo | 10/14/08
Yet another demonstration....  akulkis | 10/15/08
If you have more than 65536 rows ...  MisterMiester | 10/14/08
According to who?  markbn | 10/14/08
Mostly every post in the thread ...  MisterMiester | 10/14/08
OK, that means you have no clue  markbn | 10/14/08
I think we have another FIGJAM here ...  MisterMiester | 10/14/08
no matter in what way you want to disguise your failure  markbn | 10/14/08
@markbn - Here, go argue with Microsoft ...  MisterMiester | 10/14/08
MisterMiester, gotta agree with you on this one.  B.O.F.H. | 10/14/08
So, in that MS tutorial...  Sleeper Service | 10/14/08
You give a link that does not support your claim?  markbn | 10/14/08
FIGJAM  sjbinaz | 10/14/08
Everyone hates me, eat worms  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/14/08
Sheesh, another nonsense opinion  markbn | 10/14/08
Several people here have  Linux User 147560 | 10/14/08
Wrong  markbn | 10/14/08
It has nothing to do with who's right or wrong ...  MisterMiester | 10/14/08
Right  markbn | 10/14/08
@markbn - You know what ...  MisterMiester | 10/14/08
Thanks  markbn | 10/14/08
Actually, MM...  Sleeper Service | 10/15/08
Since you ask  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/14/08
You are arguing the wrong point  daengbo | 10/14/08
and yet, from 2003 till 2007, that version was no trouble?  TripleII | 10/14/08
Well said.  914four | 10/15/08
Option to extend rows to specified size  aeriform | 10/15/08
Does it integrate as well with SharePoint?  NonZealot | 10/14/08
Sharepoint equiv O3spaces  Clewin | 10/14/08
Not great. Some have success, but using SP means you already decided.  TripleII | 10/14/08
Thanks TripleII! I'll check it out.  NonZealot | 10/14/08
A few?  tonymcs@... | 10/14/08
Not quite. Do you know the cost?  TripleII | 10/14/08
Want to see Microsoft sabotaging Open Office?  MisterMiester | 10/14/08
I didn't realize OO was that bad at voice recognition!  NonZealot | 10/14/08
How does OO work with DragonDictate?  Ad Astra | 10/14/08
With Version 9 it seems to work well ...  MisterMiester | 10/14/08
voice recognition!  aussieblnd@... | 10/14/08
RE: OK, now OpenOffice is definitely good enough  Loverock Davidson | 10/14/08
Don't feel bad, maybe next time you will hook a fish or two. (nt)  TripleII | 10/14/08
Well, it saved me...  914four | 10/15/08
RE: OK, now OpenOffice is definitely good enough  Clewin | 10/14/08
reference managing  pupkin_z | 10/14/08
Academic Paper/Book quality document software  akulkis | 10/15/08
RE: OK, now OpenOffice is definitely good enough  sunnysurya@... | 10/14/08
Far behind Mozilla's font rendering  jc@... | 10/14/08
Fails to "Impress"  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/14/08
Must have hit this one  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/14/08
Or no one cared.  B.O.F.H. | 10/14/08
People sleep durning PowerPoint or Impress so who cares?  TtfnJohn | 10/14/08
And where are you getting a job next week?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/15/08
Exactly where I work now? happy  TtfnJohn | 10/15/08
There's a reason...  akulkis | 10/15/08
The mixed use argument.  TripleII | 10/14/08
Except Office 2000, 2003 and 2007 interoperate  Ad Astra | 10/14/08
That's something they do not understand  markbn | 10/14/08
Not just anti-MS  akulkis | 10/15/08
I can save you a bundle.  kozmcrae | 10/14/08
RE: OK, now OpenOffice is definitely good enough  david@... | 10/14/08
Read the license...  914four | 10/15/08
And if the BSA comes in  akulkis | 10/15/08
Forms  itpro_z | 10/14/08
RE: OK, now OpenOffice is definitely good enough  pueblonative | 10/14/08
You have to be joking,  Alganon | 10/15/08
RE: OK, now OpenOffice is definitely good enough  ebhb2004@... | 10/14/08
pack up your computer, and send it back.  akulkis | 10/15/08
RE: OK, now OpenOffice is definitely good enough  Gh0stMaker1969 | 10/14/08
Still no visio  Spiritusindomit@... | 10/14/08
Visio is a manager play toy.  TripleII | 10/14/08
Sorry but that's rubbish.  Sleeper Service | 10/14/08
No, it's not.  TripleII | 10/14/08
Let me guess.  kozmcrae | 10/14/08
You obviously don't how to use Visio  GrimmReaperSound | 10/14/08
Clue for you...  Linux User 147560 | 10/14/08
I use to sell the product ...  MisterMiester | 10/14/08
A clue from the clueless???  GrimmReaperSound | 10/15/08
"A clue from the clueless???" LOL grin  markbn | 10/15/08
You are right, I don't.  TripleII | 10/14/08
Visio  ShadowGIATL | 10/15/08
Well said.  914four | 10/15/08
Actually...  914four | 10/15/08
You forgot the duct tape...  ShadowGIATL | 10/15/08
There was a "Draw" program in OO  markbn | 10/14/08
Not to steal the thunder... but  ShadowGIATL | 10/15/08
His question was about a Visio-like program in OO  markbn | 10/15/08
I appologize...  ShadowGIATL | 10/15/08
oo spreadsheet  gingertech | 10/14/08
OpenOffice is NOT definitely good enough  dragon@... | 10/14/08
Well thought out argument.  TripleII | 10/14/08
Sigh... opinions are no longer safe...  ShadowGIATL | 10/15/08
NADA  crypt2121 | 10/14/08
Intel only  rightwingnutter | 10/14/08
I'm tired of the "Office Tax"  Narg | 10/14/08
The Redmond Strangler?  kozmcrae | 10/14/08
RE: OK, now OpenOffice is definitely good enough  chromeronin | 10/14/08
Access and Publisher  greg.lee@... | 10/14/08
RE: OK, now OpenOffice is definitely good enough  chromeronin | 10/14/08
Email compatible with Exchange?  SnoBoy | 10/14/08
OpenOffice  Linux User 147560 | 10/14/08
Did you try the Zimbra client?  MisterMiester | 10/14/08
OK - I downloaded and installed it over 2.4 and I know it's petty but...  USTechHead | 10/14/08
I still believed that you always get what you paid for...  transposeIT | 10/14/08
I have a really good piece of software...  Li1t | 10/14/08
Gnu Compiler Collection (GCC)  akulkis | 10/15/08
Perl is free  akulkis | 10/15/08
MS Office is so 20th Century  bblackmoor@... | 10/14/08
And stupid  akulkis | 10/15/08
RE: OK, now OpenOffice is definitely good enough  Sirgwain | 10/14/08
RE: OK, now OpenOffice is definitely good enough  mscgladney@... | 10/14/08
RE: OK, now OpenOffice is definitely good enough  mscgladney@... | 10/14/08
Forget Publisher, use Scribus  Alganon | 10/15/08
Need that VBA in Excel  vb1der@... | 10/14/08
Did you read the article?  Li1t | 10/14/08
VBA programming  akulkis | 10/15/08
How good is new OpenOffice compared to NeoOffice on Mac  GiveMeGizmos | 10/14/08
NeoOffice vs OpenOffice.org  athurman@... | 10/15/08
On my 1.4ghz PPC Mac Mini, OpenOffice 2.4 beats NeoOffice  roystonlodge | 10/17/08
Who needs Publisher  Alganon | 10/15/08
Who needs one sided point of views...  ShadowGIATL | 10/15/08
Seriously  sirhayden@... | 10/17/08
Issues! What issues?  GOTBO | 10/15/08
Equation Editor  cmjrees | 10/15/08
OpenOffice rocks!!! Time for MS Office to be Free of Charge!  gaelicfog@... | 10/15/08
Because...  ShadowGIATL | 10/15/08
free MS Office? why not!  danbi | 10/16/08
RE: The real slowness problem...  PaladinIII | 10/15/08
OO or MS office?  danbi | 10/16/08
RE: Kings new clothes  The Management consultant | 10/16/08
re the ribbon not being customizable/bypassable  hansonjb | 10/16/08
Office 2007 customization  acatnap | 10/17/08
RE: OK, now OpenOffice is definitely good enough  sirhayden@... | 10/17/08
RE: OK, now OpenOffice is definitely good enough  kershawfamily@... | 10/18/08
A CPU and memory hog - OpenOffice is still FAIL...  transposeIT | 10/20/08
RE: OK, now OpenOffice is definitely good enough  akulkis | 10/23/08
RE: OK, now OpenOffice is definitely good enough  akulkis | 10/23/08
RE: OK, now OpenOffice is definitely good enough  akulkis | 10/23/08
RE: OK, now OpenOffice is definitely good enough  akulkis | 10/23/08
@markbn  akulkis | 10/23/08

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