Safari on iPhone is even worse
itinko | 08/28/08
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Firefox on a cellphone
commun5 | 08/28/08
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No mobile Firefox, perhaps, but there is Opera Mobile and Opera Mini.
Joel R | 09/03/08
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RE: Why does Safari stink?
rorjews | 08/28/08
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LOL
croberts | 08/28/08
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He's probably right...
olePigeon | 08/28/08
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delete this
zomgguy | 08/28/08
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OlePigeon is right
BuddyLogan | 08/29/08
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You said What?
BuddyLogan | 08/29/08
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.
zomgguy | 08/30/08
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Compatibility
BuddyLogan | 08/30/08
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my bad
zomgguy | 08/30/08
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Thanks for the explanation...
TechTeach_z | 09/02/08
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To be fair,
Joel R | 09/03/08
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RE: Why does Safari stink?
Keegan2149 | 08/28/08
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RE: Why does Safari stink?
digitalas | 08/28/08
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KHTML is the problem, it is not ready for prime time
progon | 08/28/08
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Do you know what the word "standards" means?
winski | 08/28/08
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Ever heard of a de facto standard
jackbond | 08/28/08
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So...
Joel R | 08/28/08
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Bad metaphor
steve96785 | 08/28/08
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Perfectly good metaphor.
Joel R | 08/28/08
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Obviously, you are not a Web programmer
BuddyLogan | 08/29/08
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To be fair to Microsoft,
Joel R | 08/29/08
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Fair to Microsoft
BuddyLogan | 08/30/08
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BuddyLogan
Joel R | 09/03/08
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Funny you should say that...
deowll | 08/28/08
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Only The UK drives on the left
BobF_z | 08/29/08
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The UK,Japan and Australia...
Wolfie2K3 | 08/29/08
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what about new zealand?
passmethebutter@... | 08/29/08
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@deowll
Axsimulate | 08/29/08
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Thailand on the Left
steve96785 | 09/23/08
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ASP.NET has nothing to do with anything in this argument.
mikefarinha | 08/28/08
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Spoken like someone who has absolutely no idea what he?s talking about.
Joel R | 08/28/08
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Holy Smokes!!!
mikefarinha | 08/28/08
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Agreed, but the ?developer? in this case is Microsoft themselves.
Joel R | 08/29/08
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You Obviously Have A Bone To Pick
mikefarinha | 08/29/08
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To Mike: And how is the developer even supposed to KNOW there?s a PROBLEM?
Joel R | 08/29/08
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@Joel Please quote me where I was wrong.
mikefarinha | 08/29/08
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Exactly!!!
Spats30 | 08/29/08
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@Mike, you were wrong here.
Joel R | 08/29/08
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So?
zomgguy | 08/28/08
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Yep, Safari is based on the Konqueror browser
Spats30 | 08/29/08
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Not anymore.
Joel R | 08/29/08
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RE: Safari stinks? Attempt to address problem.
robdern | 08/28/08
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Problems with all browsers
j.m.galvin | 08/28/08
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Very True
cartman00000001 | 08/28/08
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Much like real life (NT)
LiquidLearner | 08/28/08
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agreed
zomgguy | 08/28/08
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Whoops - forgot something
j.m.galvin | 08/28/08
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Learn some troubleshooting tactics
frgough | 08/28/08
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You didnt read and understand his article. Why am i not suprised?
Been_Done_Before | 08/28/08
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Weak programming skills?
winski | 08/28/08
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no...
zomgguy | 08/28/08
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Troll?
ajole | 08/29/08
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Troll, NOT
hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 08/29/08
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Not quite the same...
ajole | 08/29/08
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Check the agreement...
passmethebutter@... | 08/29/08
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Time to be practical
hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 08/30/08
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To b8365629:
Joel R | 08/30/08
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Good point, but...
hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 08/31/08
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...or develop using web standards!
techconc | 08/28/08
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I did read the article
frgough | 08/28/08
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Suddenly implies that it worked the last time, but doesn't this time.
ajole | 08/29/08
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The answer is in the details
winski | 08/28/08
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especially when he says stuff like
frgough | 08/28/08
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RE: Why does Safari stink?
David Spencer-20660146163390554490918120654216 | 08/28/08
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yah i know....
zomgguy | 08/28/08
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What's the history on eSPED?
olePigeon | 08/28/08
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Lazy journalism...
techconc | 08/28/08
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Safari is weak
frgough | 08/28/08
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Another Espedder
Zippereye125 | 08/28/08
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Fast browser?
zomgguy | 08/28/08
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Really?
ajole | 08/29/08
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I use Safari...
Axsimulate | 08/29/08
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This is Terrorism
BALTHOR | 08/28/08
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Trolling for hits I see !
ShadeTree | 08/28/08
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Watch out for Acrobat Reader too
Zippereye125 | 08/28/08
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RE: Why does Safari stink?
puggsly | 08/28/08
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Sure....
zomgguy | 08/28/08
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We need a meta-browser
ozzie_tech | 08/28/08
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My Funny Story about .Mac
mikefarinha | 08/28/08
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On ASP.NET: NONE of you get it. It?s MICROSOFT?s fault, and I can PROVE it!
Joel R | 08/28/08
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Since you invoked Microsoft .....
dgrainge | 08/28/08
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You really should've waited, dgrainge.
Joel R | 08/28/08
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there doesn't need to be a specific safari.browser file
dgrainge | 08/29/08
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Nearly ALL browsers, INCLUDING WinIE (Trident), report as ?Mozilla.?
Joel R | 08/30/08
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The reason WHY ASP.NET does that to Safari:
Joel R | 08/28/08
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Your Premis is flawed.
mikefarinha | 08/28/08
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GAH! And you say you do this for a LIVING!? Your poor, poor clients!
Joel R | 08/28/08
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Why are you surprised?
ajole | 08/29/08
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Saying that site developers should have to work around the ASP.NET Menu?
Joel R | 08/29/08
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Microsoft be damned (again), then!
bbneo | 08/28/08
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O_O
zomgguy | 08/28/08
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Read all of JoelR's thread you are responding to
deaf_e_kate | 08/29/08
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I swear there's more stupid in this thread than I've seen in years
bmerc | 08/29/08
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+1!
ajole | 08/29/08
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Thank you. Now I will never use ASP.NET for the web.
T1Oracle | 08/29/08
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Oh, you can use ASP.NET.
Joel R | 08/30/08
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And now Google Chrome is affected, too!
Joel R | 09/06/08
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(Ooops! Mispost.)
Joel R | 08/28/08
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Why does IE x suck?
bbneo | 08/28/08
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Safari is slow...
zomgguy | 08/29/08
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Christopher: Microsoft is to blame.
jameskatt | 08/28/08
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Why does Firefox work then?
readwrite | 08/28/08
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Because Microsoft LET Firefox work. THAT'S why.
Joel R | 08/29/08
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In the case of ASP.NET, it's because
bmerc | 08/29/08
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Wow, bmerc, you?re even better at analogies than I am! +1!! (NT)
Joel R | 08/29/08
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I don't have to explain anything
readwrite | 08/29/08
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If you had any clue...
mikefarinha | 08/29/08
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If MikeFarinha had any clue?
Joel R | 08/29/08
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You're 100% Correct, and 100% Misguided.
mikefarinha | 08/29/08
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Awww, ya chicken! Bu-BAWK!!
Joel R | 08/29/08
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RE: Why does Safari stink? Cuz it's lame!
davidf01 | 08/28/08
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Anyone remember the Opera browser's Bork edition?
bmerc | 08/29/08
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That's Hilarious !
Jkirk3279 | 08/30/08
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Sounds like a developer/tester problem.
B.O.F.H. | 08/29/08
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RE: Why does Safari stink?
nfiertel | 08/29/08
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RE: Safari stinks less that Firefox
JohnMelone@... | 08/29/08
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Safari is different, that's all
jscott418 | 08/29/08
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No Problems Here on eSPED
networkassault | 08/29/08
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RE: Why does Safari stink?
Mudoch | 08/29/08
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Don't waste time w/ Safari!!!
GSavage777 | 08/29/08
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RE: Why does Safari stink?
b2miller | 08/29/08
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If it's a connection problem...
Mitch 74 | 08/30/08
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While Safari looks nice...
melekali | 08/30/08
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RE: Why does Safari stink?
shadfurman | 08/31/08
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RE: Why does Safari stink?
Viper2KX | 10/05/08
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