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Reasonable response.
A warrant should be required. And your idea makes good sense.
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While I wouldn't give it to them without a warrant  Michael Kelly | 08/04/08
Reasonable response.  bjbrock | 08/04/08
knee-jerk  Litehouse | 08/04/08
My Solution  pebear | 08/04/08
Why should a government entity require a warrant?  ajole | 08/04/08
Two sides...  Churlish | 08/04/08
I have to agree with assessement  roberth6901 | 08/04/08
Two Words: Due Process  oldbaritone | 08/04/08
Or Just Watch CSI  Cardhu | 08/04/08
Spoken like a Successful Cop  jjmcdonald7911@... | 08/05/08
Public libraries are not FBI field offices.  bmerc | 08/04/08
Major Violation of State's Rights  Dr_Zinj | 08/05/08
"Why should a government entity require a warrant?"  4beatgait | 08/04/08
democracy... or not?  frojo59 | 08/05/08
Yes, separation of powers  hiraghm@... | 08/07/08
Why you ask?  erichielema@... | 08/04/08
Because it's not the police who need the warrent  aka_tripleB@... | 08/04/08
Missed one point...  Demzon | 08/04/08
In reality, there is no "unseen" enemy  Dr_Zinj | 08/05/08
Exactly the point  Demzon | 08/05/08
4th Amendment  hiraghm@... | 08/07/08
Why have judges at all?  MVeer@... | 08/04/08
What makes you competent?  Professor8 | 08/04/08
You'd be right, if they were taking it from an individual.  ajole | 08/05/08
That's an interesting question  maldain | 08/04/08
Why should a government entity require a warrant?  sturel@... | 08/04/08
Are you serious?  drmburke | 08/04/08
WE are responsible for our own protection first  Dr_Zinj | 08/05/08
You still haven't got it.  ajole | 08/05/08
Depends  Dr_Zinj | 08/22/08
Why should a library have any desire...  rmcochran | 08/04/08
Defending my rights as a user of information?!  trevor@... | 08/04/08
Hypothetical situation...  Demzon | 08/04/08
One of the most Enlightened replies I have ever read  jjmcdonald7911@... | 08/05/08
Thank you!  ajole | 08/05/08
I've long objected  hiraghm@... | 08/07/08
Why should a govt agency require a warrant?  meyer@... | 08/04/08
Yeah, because you can *always* trust government entities  Grantarchy | 08/04/08
Why should a warrant be needed?  rmorrison9@... | 08/04/08
Agreed.  deowll | 08/04/08
Thanks  Demzon | 08/04/08
Sad to hear that.  ajole | 08/05/08
ROFl  hiraghm@... | 08/07/08
Why? Because the Constitution ...  mwagner@... | 08/04/08
Why should a government entity require a warrant  rcarr426 | 08/04/08
especially when the bad guys are the government  Professor8 | 08/04/08
Warrants and the FBI  David Spencer-20660146163390554490918120654216 | 08/04/08
Because the US Constitution requires it...  John L. Ries | 08/04/08
Sorry, no, a warrant is not always required...  turbinepilot | 08/05/08
Didn't say it was....  John L. Ries | 08/05/08
Re: Sorry, no, a warrant is not always required  WNCSnoopy24 | 08/05/08
I think the question was  hiraghm@... | 08/07/08
Wrong, a warrant is always required  Dr_Zinj | 08/22/08
Warrent?  Storageman | 08/04/08
Amen, brother!  Glenn6912 | 08/04/08
Quote...  Demzon | 08/04/08
Terrifying  hiraghm@... | 08/07/08
State vs people  frankerin | 08/04/08
Because A Government Killed Millions of..  windozefreak | 08/04/08
Why should a government entity require a warrant?  Magicianbp@... | 08/04/08
can't trust the government  adr5@... | 08/04/08
Are You Kidding Me?  LucienS | 08/05/08
The property is public for the county of Frederick  jjmcdonald7911@... | 08/05/08
I believe it is called "Due Process"  Buff Loon | 08/05/08
Why would a govt entity require a warrant?  Tinkerer62 | 08/05/08
I may be wrong  DigitalFrog | 08/06/08
Good question  John L. Ries | 08/06/08
I mostly agree  hiraghm@... | 08/07/08
These days the obvious answer is a "terrorist" threat ...  Ron_007 | 06/23/09
What if you were the one they were looking at?  russc@... | 08/04/08
If I was the one being investigated  Michael Kelly | 08/04/08
If I was the owner...  russc@... | 08/04/08
I wouldn't have  John L. Ries | 08/04/08
You're 100% correct  Dr_Zinj | 08/05/08
Now your getting right to the heart of the issue!  don_pagucci@... | 08/04/08
Yes, terrorists use library computers.  Dr. John | 08/04/08
Not exactly...  Dr. John | 08/04/08
Exactly my point.  ajole | 08/05/08
Concur  Jim Johnson | 08/04/08
So the serial child molester gets away with the kidnapping  nabisho | 08/04/08
And of course you know all of this to be fact...  bmerc | 08/04/08
Nobody here knows all the facts  nabisho | 08/04/08
Nobody here knows all the facts  jtkstc | 08/04/08
That would be wrong  nabisho | 08/04/08
So, if you had suspicious files, this would be an issue.  ajole | 08/05/08
The known facts are enough to see this is wrong  adr5@... | 08/04/08
So the serial child molester gets away with the kidnapping  sturel@... | 08/04/08
maybe  maldain | 08/04/08
Not true.  ajole | 08/05/08
Are you from the old U.S.S.R. ?  bruceslog | 08/04/08
Are you incapable of reasoning?  ajole | 08/05/08
Due Process and The Rules of Evidence  Cardhu | 08/04/08
And, watch them later walk away, free.  Dr. John | 08/04/08
Yes, you have to let her or him walk.  Dr_Zinj | 08/05/08
If the need is so urgent  hiraghm@... | 08/07/08
Chain of evidence  George Banfield | 08/04/08
that's about right  Professor8 | 08/04/08
Yeah  spyro17@... | 08/09/08
Evidence acquired without...  bjbrock | 08/04/08
maybe not  SteveS_z | 08/04/08
Correct...  russc@... | 08/04/08
Not exactly...  Dr. John | 08/04/08
Oh yea!  Rkerr63978@... | 08/04/08
...  Demzon | 08/04/08
And if the roomie used my computer to do it...  ajole | 08/05/08
it doesn't matter at that point...  Demzon | 08/05/08
Re: Not Exactly  WNCSnoopy24 | 08/05/08
Exigent circumstances  George Banfield | 08/04/08
Not so  Demzon | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  whisperycat | 08/04/08
well there a easier way to deal with this  Quebec-french | 08/04/08
Trust me...  Churlish | 08/04/08
the answer is simple  Quebec-french | 08/04/08
With any luck...  Churlish | 08/04/08
Let it stay out - his type isn't welcome...and no big loss...nt  socialism=nowhere | 08/04/08
And what would "his type" be?  bmerc | 08/04/08
Let's see...  socialism=nowhere | 08/04/08
Typical neocon misdirection...  bmerc | 08/04/08
bmrec:Your a sad little man aren't you...so sorry-nt  socialism=nowhere | 08/04/08
re: bmrec  maldain | 08/04/08
maldain: exactly what I was saying...  socialism=nowhere | 08/04/08
Castro haters are soooo funny  dunkelberg | 08/04/08
We should have kept Cuba after the Spanish American war.  Dr_Zinj | 08/05/08
Stupid embargo  hiraghm@... | 08/07/08
"(Provided that it's leftist dissent, of course.)"  bmerc | 08/04/08
Re: Actually he's right  maldain | 08/04/08
it's not a matter of  hiraghm@... | 08/07/08
Odd...  Demzon | 08/04/08
You do have a choice  Dr_Zinj | 08/04/08
Yeah, but they have Glocks.  ajole | 08/04/08
So what?  Dr_Zinj | 08/05/08
Well...  ajole | 08/05/08
Two words for you  hiraghm@... | 08/07/08
Found it online... amazing  hiraghm@... | 08/07/08
Sorry but that isn't what happened here  maldain | 08/04/08
Come and get it...  David Blomstrom | 08/04/08
corporate fascism?  Paradise Lost | 08/04/08
Good word!  Churlish | 08/04/08
Interesting comment  rhomp2002@... | 08/04/08
And you are running for Office?  russc@... | 08/04/08
The Surveillance Society  GlobeResearcher | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  jamesb2147 | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  jrozycki12@... | 08/04/08
George Carlin?  dunkelberg | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  jrozycki12@... | 08/04/08
"Land of the Free" indeed...  Popoyd | 08/04/08
Sadly true  Acoyauh | 08/04/08
No, but...  bob.kerns2 | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  Linux User 147560 | 08/04/08
Hear hear!  Acoyauh | 08/04/08
Your Santa Cruz Boardwalk Experience  K4thwright | 08/04/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 08/04/08
Lack of Constitutional Understanding is Apalling  turbinepilot | 08/04/08
Good point  sbatdorf@... | 08/04/08
Finally, someone gets it!  ajole | 08/04/08
excellent post  coffeeshark | 08/04/08
True, but  bruceslog | 08/04/08
"Private" is not the correct adjective...  turbinepilot | 08/04/08
Clearly you are too educated...  tubr0 | 08/04/08
Constitutional understanding?  alexjher@... | 08/04/08
"Persuade" or Persuade?  turbinepilot | 08/04/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 08/04/08
Dude, you completely missed the point of the article  bmerc | 08/04/08
I Disagree...  turbinepilot | 08/04/08
Reasonable Expectation of Privacy  oldbaritone | 08/04/08
It would be useful to know what the computers were used for...  turbinepilot | 08/04/08
Now you're making assumptions.  Dr. John | 08/04/08
Assumptions are necessary...  turbinepilot | 08/05/08
Bunk!  dunkelberg | 08/04/08
The other side of the Bunk...  turbinepilot | 08/04/08
Bad analogy  Dr. John | 08/04/08
Do You Post Signs?  turbinepilot | 08/05/08
If the library is the owner of the computers  maldain | 08/04/08
correction  bruceslog | 08/04/08
That isn't what we were asked....  rogg@... | 08/04/08
Correct  KomaToast | 08/04/08
Lack of Constitutional Understanding is Apalling  rcarr426 | 08/04/08
Here Here!  Rkerr63978@... | 08/04/08
I think the understanding is pretty good  John L. Ries | 08/04/08
Hmm... what about  hiraghm@... | 08/08/08
I disagree  Dr_Zinj | 08/22/08
Agreed.  simrans_sidhu@... | 08/25/08
Hand wringing liberals...  Churlish | 08/04/08
it doesn't matter...  lostarchitect | 08/04/08
Agreed...  Churlish | 08/04/08
i.e. more centric...agreed would be nice...nt  socialism=nowhere | 08/04/08
Okay, you said it  hiraghm@... | 08/08/08
Ok. "you're wrong"  Acoyauh | 08/04/08
acoyauh do you wanna see something great  Quebec-french | 08/04/08
Clouding the issue  Churlish | 08/04/08
hey hey hey MR before opening you food clapper  Quebec-french | 08/04/08
LOL - you really are lost LOL once a frog always a frog - nt  socialism=nowhere | 08/04/08
Right, and here you are talking about amphibians again...  bmerc | 08/04/08
LOL you should write novels...did you just buy a thesaurus  socialism=nowhere | 08/04/08
LOL "I'm not racist"  bmerc | 08/04/08
"Tell me I'm wrong."  bmerc | 08/04/08
Good question - where do you come up with it? nt  socialism=nowhere | 08/04/08
Wow...  bmerc | 08/04/08
Actually, no.  Churlish | 08/04/08
"left-leaning media and education"... AMEN Brother!  USTechHead | 08/04/08
If it were a second amendment issue  dunkelberg | 08/04/08
Au contraire ... see my other post:  Churlish | 08/04/08
Hand wringing liberals...  rcarr426 | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  rushfan77 | 08/04/08
....  Linux User 147560 | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  jmseligson | 08/04/08
First Computers then Firearms  madrucke@... | 08/04/08
Since when did a library have guns?  ajole | 08/04/08
Good point.  Churlish | 08/04/08
Your good point  jfgeschmidtt | 08/04/08
Ignorant? No.  Churlish | 08/04/08
Food for thought - good rebuttal.  USTechHead | 08/04/08
History  jfgeschmidtt | 08/04/08
Good Point  dennisd56@... | 08/04/08
Guns vs Computers  madrucke@... | 08/04/08
Followup  madrucke@... | 08/04/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 08/04/08
NOT mine  Acoyauh | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  stewarth@... | 08/04/08
so much depends upon...  hatster | 08/04/08
Patriotism vs. Pacifism  Demzon | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  gkisabeth | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  TotalKayeos | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  hitechroadrunner | 08/04/08
Reasonable expectation of privacy  MassJim | 08/04/08
PUBLIC  chuckd | 08/04/08
Public Restroom?  oldbaritone | 08/04/08
Warrant  chuckd | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  mndvf@... | 08/04/08
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?  cuncator@... | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  redbird@... | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  zdnet@... | 08/04/08
Get "real"?  dunkelberg | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  coronakwl | 08/04/08
How about the TRUTH?  kkevilus | 08/04/08
"they are the governments computers. "  dunkelberg | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  Tony T3 | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  papardun@... | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  ebanss@... | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  automan2k | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  rwilson2@... | 08/04/08
I would recommend the agent "Tell it to a judge."  bernalillo | 08/04/08
No warrant needed if permission given.  crythias | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  mschore@... | 08/04/08
RE: LUNACYWould you give the Feds your computers?  cne@... | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  Dan Hyde | 08/04/08
What about 9/11  dunkelberg | 08/04/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 08/04/08
Maybe it is time for another American Revolution?  mikifinaz1@... | 08/04/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  WADENABOY@... | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  3982x | 08/04/08
What is PUBLIC what is PRIVATE;;;  JCitizen | 08/04/08
The flaw in your argument...  MassJim | 08/04/08
Not really all that different.  bmerc | 08/04/08
True, but in my mind it will always be cut & dried...  JCitizen | 08/05/08
Think about this;...  JCitizen | 08/05/08
Would I have given Hitler my (or anyone else's) computers?  Ole Man | 08/04/08
It's shocking to me...  MassJim | 08/04/08
You are assuming facts not in evidence...  ajole | 08/05/08
Well, I'm sure the 4th amendment, Bill of Rights shocked you to no end  Ole Man | 08/05/08
No Way!  DB_z | 08/04/08
OU812_BABY: Sad? Yes  bmerc | 08/04/08
It's just a thought - but I think the dude was setting you up...  USTechHead | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  jim.fruuen@... | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  Tirdod | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  smileyface522 | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  beachbog@... | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  colinmeister | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  johnnydoe1894 | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  chuck_gregory@... | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  Moe_z | 08/04/08
In any case, they can seize it at the border....  Samun56 | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  mbglaw@... | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  trevor@... | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  humph@... | 08/04/08
Where is your sense of responsibility as an American?  trevor@... | 08/04/08
.....  Linux User 147560 | 08/04/08
Great reference!  ajole | 08/05/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  brian1russ@... | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  rcockrell | 08/04/08
freedom?  magallanes | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  phughes3 | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  mostlyharmless22 | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  l_g_johnson@... | 08/04/08
Correction  l_g_johnson@... | 08/04/08
The Constitution says nothing about "expectation of privacy"  John L. Ries | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  rMatey | 08/04/08
I wouldn't give Our Feds the computer  tracy anne | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  mwagner@... | 08/04/08
A warrant is necessary - otherwise there are more breaches of security  Mahegan | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  ladyhenry | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  markw53 | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  deowll | 08/04/08
Public Library does NOT mean that the FBI is entitled to records  Grantarchy | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  YERKES1 | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  EasyDuzit | 08/04/08
This discussion is taking place in a factual and legal vacuum  davagain | 08/04/08
Your reply was vacuous in itself, heres why...  Demzon | 08/05/08
Well said ..  WNCSnoopy24 | 08/05/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  hoardo | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  rcaa@... | 08/04/08
I would never allow a search without a valid warrant  John L. Ries | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  roamsweb | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  agrimes6@... | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  Otis C | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  xgolfer77@... | 08/04/08
Fly round trip to Cabo and you're screwed  doctordawg | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  jpgeorgia | 08/04/08
Good reason  doctordawg | 08/04/08
Getting a computer back from the FBI?  Demzon | 08/05/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  dianecmiles@... | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  a1techman@... | 08/04/08
I go to Rio...  doctordawg | 08/04/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  ken.tidball@... | 08/04/08
If the article read, "Nazi's siezed library computers" ...  8string | 08/04/08
Welcome to the Police State of America...  Marty R. Milette | 08/04/08
You are amongst a very small minority, Marty  Ole Man | 08/05/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  jackfred | 08/04/08
Richard Jewell  StPatrick56 | 08/05/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  Artymonn | 08/05/08
Nazi Germany called it Fatherland  Marty R. Milette | 08/05/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  Artymonn | 08/05/08
What was it that Benjamin Franklin is alleged to have said,  mhenriday | 08/05/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  webstuff@... | 08/05/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  WB3 | 08/05/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  as901 | 08/05/08
Corporate Fascism can exist  Dr_Zinj | 08/05/08
The Fourth Ammendment according to the US Constitution..  WNCSnoopy24 | 08/05/08
Even if you were right...  John L. Ries | 08/05/08
Re: Even if you were right  WNCSnoopy24 | 08/05/08
The people of that day might be laughing, but not Madison..  JCitizen | 08/06/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  kevinhurley53 | 08/05/08
Under Absolutely No Circumstances Whatsoever  frdaniel@... | 08/05/08
Re: Under No Circumstances  WNCSnoopy24 | 08/05/08
Beg to differ ...  frdaniel@... | 08/05/08
and I differ..  WNCSnoopy24 | 08/05/08
Nothing wrong with giving cops the same access the public has  John L. Ries | 08/05/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  jmclarty@... | 08/05/08
RE: A RESOUNDING NO  ggossett001 | 08/05/08
What I would really do  kokuryu | 08/05/08
Would I hell...  HexHammer67 | 08/05/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  null | 08/05/08
RE: Would you give the Feds your computers?  Computer_Expert | 08/05/08
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