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Familiar or not, it's still XP.
That will be a huge achillies heel for MS. XP runs well on modest desktops and notebooks. Not fast, but well. Take the EEE, it can run XP, however, it is slower, and as you stated, the mandatory Anti-X suites are not factored into performance.

They have a problem, they are explicitly allowing the "exception" for very modest hardware configurations, the same ones that won't run it very well at all.

Aside: I laugh at the exceptions. Asus, stick a 1.2 GHz AMD in the machine, see how fast MS changes the exception limits.

With enough EEEs running Linux already in the wild, XP, for once in it's life, will have to measure up to the incumbent, the easy to use Xandros version or the custom installed with distro of choice by the user.

You yourself blogged about the extreme curiosity of the EEE, and the incredible ease of use of the EEE by the user. Where is that ease of use with XP in a UMPC? Xandros is still one touch update, XP is separate component. XP requires anti-malware. XP requires more HD space (at a premium on some models) and comes with very little software.

Compare to the EEE, with, well, a real Office Suite (sorry No Axe, gripe all you want, OO is great), skype client, burning, etc all with a few install clicks.

Yes, many geeks will go through the massive reconfiguration needed to get the same functionality on the Linux (up to where MS will let them, good look connecting to Active directory, etc), whereas this is all included in Linux.

Simply put, for the EEE at least, and others being directly optimized for Linux first and foremost, the horse has left the barn, word is out, and the reviews are phenominal. Head to Amazon to read them all.

You put it best of all.
Many manufacturers have taken to installing various flavors of Linux on these devices to minimize footprint, improve performance, and reduce costs on low-power, low-margin hardware.

Cheaper XP only helps (gotta love dumping and the DOJ right) on one of the three problems. Linux is as small as the vendor wants, includes anything they want, doesn't include anything they want, therefore has better performance and with the new kernels, will use less power than MS's 6 year old depreacted OS.

Yes, this will slow or forestall the inevitable, but Windows has no real OS that can go head to head on the UMPC. Inertia aside, that isn't a lot to really look forward to if you are an MS executive. In the end, the vendors want a UMPC that does everything the customer needs, not meets MS's needs to maintain market share.

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Familiar or not, it's still XP.  TripleII | 05/11/08
I got to side w/TripleII here  drprod@... | 05/13/08
RE: Will Microsoft kill Linux on ULPCs?  bpchapman | 05/11/08
WIndows can't compete with Linux on Ultra Low cost PC  timiteh | 05/12/08
Re: WIndows can't compete with Linux on Ultra Low cost PC  none none | 05/12/08
So, lowering the cost  Pliny the Elder | 05/12/08
All well and good, but...  zkiwi | 05/12/08
This is not about lowering cost  timiteh | 05/12/08
What he should be questioning...  storm14k | 05/12/08
Is fine provided...  TtfnJohn | 05/12/08
Creating artificial markets  daengbo | 05/13/08
It can be anti-competative  spincitysd@... | 05/13/08
Eee PC  deefburger | 05/12/08
re EEE PC and XP  dgrainge | 05/12/08
And My Wife, a lifelong M$ user, loves Xandros on her EEE!  drprod@... | 05/13/08
And you can have extra batteries  starcannon99022@... | 05/13/08
Whats so wrong?  laxmanb | 05/12/08
What's right about it?  zkiwi | 05/12/08
Its illegal  dfolk | 05/12/08
Really?  andycher | 05/12/08
I guess you missed the bit...  zkiwi | 05/12/08
If it's illegal ...  markbn | 05/12/08
"will WIN", I mean  markbn | 05/12/08
Well, the regulators should get there first (nt)  zkiwi | 05/12/08
seriously?  acfreema | 05/14/08
Since the cost of production for Software is zero, dumping would be hard  DonnieBoy | 05/12/08
Everybody does it  mswift@... | 05/13/08
No, dumping is when below cost of manufacture.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/12/08
Regardless what you call it, it is still illegal.  Basic Logic | 05/12/08
Ah, so giveng Linux away is illegal?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/12/08
Cost...  shawn_dude | 05/13/08
the main difference is  Quebec-french | 05/16/08
Go Make Some More Stupid Predictions  itanalyst2@... | 05/16/08
Not dumping? Price war then?  Nobu_z | 05/12/08
Possibly dumping  srobtjones@... | 05/16/08
The new generation of Eee is cheaper with Windows than with Linux  pjotr123 | 05/12/08
Odd...  zkiwi | 05/12/08
I strongly suspect that you're right  pjotr123 | 05/12/08
Practically the stunt they pulled in China in 2007  Ole Man | 05/12/08
Correction  Anton Philidor | 05/12/08
A minor correction, a minor point  Ole Man | 05/12/08
No, it's NOT Right, Ole Man - but the Right Wing and M$ have flipped it all  drprod@... | 05/13/08
Can't argue with you there  Ole Man | 05/13/08
Of course they did  daengbo | 05/13/08
they did the same thing in Thailand  Ole Man | 05/13/08
The problem of course is  alaniane@... | 05/12/08
You are right, but greed is a universal language  Ole Man | 05/12/08
Only in Australia so far (NT)  TtfnJohn | 05/12/08
You can be sure that the other continents will follow.  pjotr123 | 05/12/08
And  daengbo | 05/13/08
Supposed to promote Linux???  storm14k | 05/12/08
Spin doctors at work. However: I love Asus!  pjotr123 | 05/12/08
Dumping...?  shawn_dude | 05/12/08
exactly  Tim Patterson | 05/12/08
RE: Will Microsoft kill Linux on ULPCs?  bill@... | 05/12/08
It is only dumping if you ....  ShadeTree | 05/12/08
Anti-trust oversight would mean you're probably wrong (nt)  zkiwi | 05/12/08
Nope!(nt)  ShadeTree | 05/12/08
yep (nt)  zkiwi | 05/12/08
Not limited to cost of production.  TripleII | 05/12/08
Another thing  daengbo | 05/13/08
XP is stopgap at the very best  Ole Man | 05/13/08
Freedom doesn't mean price  scott1329 | 05/12/08
You'll need to ask Ax, Loverock, Anton and other M$ Bigots That  drprod@... | 05/13/08
Look who's talking... Linux bigot...  transposeIT | 05/13/08
Freedom from what? I actually have more choices is the software I use...  transposeIT | 05/13/08
Storage configuration question  HooNoze | 05/12/08
Easy answer  daengbo | 05/13/08
"offering better hardware for the same or similar price"  Ole Man | 05/13/08
Probably the Linux users such as yourself.  transposeIT | 05/13/08
You might want to apply linear logic to the subject  Ole Man | 05/14/08
RE: Will Microsoft kill Linux on ULPCs?  richdave | 05/12/08
RE: Will Microsoft kill Linux on ULPCs?  bricar2 | 05/12/08
Why not WinCE/Mobile? Or other OS in Rom?  pfyearwood | 05/12/08
Win CE ughh  starcannon99022@... | 05/13/08
Roadmap  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/12/08
About right  John L. Ries | 05/12/08
Wait, what kind of logic is THIS?  readwryt@... | 05/12/08
Difference . . .  JLHenry | 05/12/08
Oh, I see...how silly of me...  readwryt@... | 05/12/08
The point is . . .  JLHenry | 05/12/08
I meant . . .  JLHenry | 05/12/08
we do  itchy8me | 05/13/08
Microsoft Fears Linux  chessmen | 05/12/08
Ironically, Linux is the best thing  alaniane@... | 05/12/08
Then it won't be too rosy for Microsoft then...  transposeIT | 05/13/08
In your dreams!  Ole Man | 05/14/08
They are just leveling the playing field...  transposeIT | 05/13/08
Like using a bulldozer  Ole Man | 05/14/08
One could argue...  John L. Ries | 05/12/08
I agree wholeheartedly... But also for your consideration.....  LazLong | 05/12/08
Pretty much the way I see it  John L. Ries | 05/12/08
Linux unwanted  Anton Philidor | 05/12/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 05/12/08
The gov't of Egypt never heard of Windows?  Anton Philidor | 05/12/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 05/12/08
Linux is not Windows  Anton Philidor | 05/12/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 05/12/08
Government mandates  Anton Philidor | 05/12/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 05/12/08
...  transposeIT | 05/13/08
You jumped on him  Ole Man | 05/14/08
Re: The gov't of Egypt never heard of Windows?  none none | 05/12/08
Why isn't it about the software?  Anton Philidor | 05/12/08
Corrected sentence  Anton Philidor | 05/12/08
...  Linux User 147560 | 05/12/08
Agreed on one point  Anton Philidor | 05/12/08
Re: Linux unwanted  none none | 05/12/08
"... sending hard currency ..."  Anton Philidor | 05/12/08
Re: "... sending hard currency ..."  none none | 05/12/08
Trade is reciprocal  Anton Philidor | 05/12/08
You are grasping.  TripleII | 05/12/08
Why the upheaval, then?  Anton Philidor | 05/12/08
Point by point  TripleII | 05/12/08
A few points.  Anton Philidor | 05/12/08
I think  daengbo | 05/13/08
Mr. Negroponte...  Anton Philidor | 05/13/08
Gotta continue the astroturfing, Anton  TtfnJohn | 05/12/08
"... total control ..."  Anton Philidor | 05/13/08
Well...  zkiwi | 05/13/08
You might...  Anton Philidor | 05/13/08
It's not just me...  zkiwi | 05/14/08
Same as when they COOSE to buy bootleg Windows  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/12/08
There is some truth to that...  TtfnJohn | 05/12/08
Wouldn't you just kill for a preview function on zdnet usa? (nt)  zkiwi | 05/12/08
RE: Will Microsoft kill Linux on ULPCs?  tmechanic@... | 05/12/08
You're forgetting...  zkiwi | 05/12/08
That's to enforce Vista and protect OEMs.  TripleII | 05/12/08
Well...  zkiwi | 05/12/08
RE: Linux on ULPCs Means What???  L3LLL1931@... | 05/12/08
MS speak.  TripleII | 05/12/08
I assume...  John L. Ries | 05/13/08
An OS versus A Distro  jabailo1 | 05/12/08
Finally, we shall see.  TripleII | 05/12/08
Two configurations, one price ...  Steve4Fluff | 05/13/08
RE: Will Microsoft kill Linux on ULPCs?  jfreedle2@... | 05/12/08
RE: ...kill Linux...?  n0neXn0ne | 05/13/08
Dont Forget Office  rtb | 05/13/08
but...  Brissietex | 05/13/08
marketing marketing... to the 'bottom billion'  top_manager | 05/13/08
One word: NO  Narg | 05/13/08
Be careful who you classify  Ole Man | 05/13/08
RE: Will Microsoft kill Linux on ULPCs?  gmarriott@... | 05/13/08
Talk about 2nd class citizens  The Big Z | 05/13/08
Don't try to apply the same rules to the Linux market and to MIcrosoft  RamonFHerrera | 05/13/08
Japanese cars  softwareFlunky | 05/13/08
nothing wrong with doing it  nancyjones36507@... | 05/13/08
RE: Will Microsoft kill Linux on ULPCs?  bob.legrand@... | 05/13/08
I own 5 UMPC's All Running Linux  starcannon99022@... | 05/13/08
RE: Will Microsoft kill Linux on ULPCs?  tracy anne | 05/13/08
RE: Will Microsoft kill Linux on ULPCs?  gigaferz | 05/13/08
Surely WindowsCE would be the obvious Windows  tony@... | 05/14/08
Linux commits suicide  billfranke@... | 05/14/08
The case is not closed  Ole Man | 05/14/08
I don't think so  timiteh | 05/15/08
RE: Will Microsoft kill Linux on ULPCs?  cup@... | 06/11/08

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