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This is the single most important reason why I personally don't recommend Linux (on the Desktop at least) in the Small Bussiness / Non for Profit/ Education Market.

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Nail on the Head  JoseTorr | 09/14/06
However...  zkiwi | 09/16/06
I don't agree with that.  mwagner@... | 09/19/06
Don't say that...  ju1ce | 09/29/06
Same here  toadlife | 09/29/06
So...  zkiwi | 09/29/06
Have you even tried to find a decent Windows admin?  toadlife | 09/29/06
I agree  zkiwi | 09/29/06
He told you already  Mark Miller | 09/30/06
Which would explain why sometimes they take forever  Linux User 147560 | 09/30/06
We also support abou 3000 for our district...  olePigeon | 10/02/06
Then you never really did set up a Windows's administrative system  mombo | 10/06/06
So how are those yearly CALs coming along?  olePigeon | 09/30/06
And that last paragraph says it all ...  mwagner@... | 09/14/06
Well...  zkiwi | 09/16/06
I agree completely, and would add, perhaps Linux is just built wrong  stevey_d | 09/29/06
Moving ABI  toadlife | 09/29/06
French vs. Chinese  Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/29/06
lol  LinuxHippie | 09/29/06
Reality Check  David@... | 10/01/06
Ifeel that Linux vendors are clearly a big part in the lack of  Dr-T | 09/29/06
Vendors have nothing to do with it.  Suicida| | 10/01/06
Donated Computers  JohnWhitaker | 09/18/06
Win2k only  mrdatahs ZDNet Moderator | 09/26/06
I wonder how much M$  Jay E Court | 09/18/06
I wish I was getting some kickbacks  mrdatahs ZDNet Moderator | 09/26/06
The reason you're not getting kickbacks is ...  DarrenR114 | 10/28/06
About as much as RedHat paid you to post that.  James T. Kirk | 09/29/06
Not really ...  royalstream | 09/29/06
Windows for Education?  dwstclair2 | 09/18/06
Sure, a 6-year old using emacs to learn  mombo | 10/06/06
Thoroughbreds are not for joy riding  whoozhe@... | 09/19/06
Eventually Everything But Microsoft Will be 'Killed'  hforman@... | 09/19/06
Of course...  bargeemike | 09/29/06
Vista isnt good enough  inyoka | 09/20/06
Got nothing to do with usability  eb276 | 09/29/06
Okay now I know you are full of it.  Linux User 147560 | 09/30/06
Learning for whom?  kiddpeat | 09/29/06
The kids...  Jxn | 10/06/06
No reference to LTSP undermines article's credibility  brmatyow | 09/24/06
Actually...  mrdatahs ZDNet Moderator | 09/26/06
This says it all  Edward Meyers | 09/29/06
using worst possible windows scenario  toadlife | 09/29/06
And you forget  Edward Meyers | 09/29/06
*Sigh*  toadlife | 09/29/06
Uhm... No  Edward Meyers | 09/29/06
Don't put words in my mouth  toadlife | 09/29/06
Several things  Edward Meyers | 09/30/06
Donated computers and security as priority #1  toadlife | 09/30/06
Nixing the hard drive limits the damage  Edward Meyers | 09/30/06
Nine dollars sounds about right Edward  toadlife | 10/01/06
And you can make how many copies? Can you also give them to the students?  Edward Meyers | 10/01/06
Actually  toadlife | 10/01/06
$9 initial purchase plus cost copy  Edward Meyers | 10/01/06
Ok Edward. Clearly, you are out of touch with reality of Education  toadlife | 10/01/06
Well...  zkiwi | 09/29/06
I have good experience administering Windows, too.  Grayson Peddie | 10/01/06
Logic and OS  han810p@... | 10/02/06
Lack of experience in the trenches ... HA HA  DarrenR114 | 10/28/06
Inner CIO?  jasonp@... | 09/29/06
Wow. Talk about getting degrees.  John Zern | 09/29/06
Thanks, John.  Rodney Davis | 09/29/06
Sorry - but you're wrong.  Spikey_Mike | 09/29/06
Don't understand your logic  Rodney Davis | 09/30/06
No - think longer  Spikey_Mike | 10/02/06
Thanks, Rodney?  Jxn | 10/06/06
Because...  zkiwi | 09/29/06
Ok, one piece at a time...  jasonp@... | 09/30/06
Different Lens  Rodney Davis | 09/30/06
As a professional developer...  jasonp@... | 09/30/06
Inner CIO? - Comment  mgellis@... | 09/29/06
Is it too hard of a leap of logic...  jasonp@... | 09/30/06
NO slight against linus was probably made...  mombo | 10/06/06
One man's opinion ...  George Mitchell | 09/29/06
The assesment that a single person with an already overloaded  Dr-T | 09/29/06
You just described about 80% of admins.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/29/06
BZZZZZZZZZT WRONG!  itanalyst | 09/29/06
Stupid comparison that only makes you look...  toadlife | 09/29/06
Not half as much as  itanalyst | 09/29/06
Then you admit...  toadlife | 09/29/06
Ha Ha Moron.....  itanalyst | 09/29/06
An obvious conclusion the drawn is  zkiwi | 09/29/06
Who's the moron?  toadlife | 09/29/06
It's percentages zkiwi  eb276 | 09/29/06
You know what they say...  toadlife | 09/29/06
Dude, your a legend in your own mind...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/29/06
And he as nore skill than you ever will.  B.O.F.H. | 09/30/06
He is a full-time school teacher, not an IT staffer.  Dr-T | 09/29/06
Further speculation...  Spikey_Mike | 09/29/06
Excellent point... that is ALWAYS overlooked.  Linux User 147560 | 09/30/06
How did the koolaid taste?  DarthRidiculous | 09/29/06
It's pretty good!  eb276 | 09/29/06
"Vista will prove to be no more secure then any other version"  msolgeek | 09/29/06
Linux zealots tend to be ignorant about how things work in the enterprise  toadlife | 09/29/06
If you're trying to insult me, please try  msolgeek | 09/29/06
"Vista will prove to be no more secure then any other version" 2  msolgeek | 09/29/06
Linux zealots tend to be ignorant about how things work in the enterprise  toadlife | 09/29/06
Not as stupid as a toad apparently.  msolgeek | 09/29/06
Actually....  Spikey_Mike | 10/02/06
"Vista will prove to be no more secure then any other version" 3  msolgeek | 09/29/06
Linux zealots tend to be ignorant about how things work in the enterprise  toadlife | 09/29/06
There's nothing to get  eb276 | 09/29/06
I guess it is true that the only way to  msolgeek | 09/29/06
Why do you want to hit yourself in the head?  eb276 | 09/29/06
Another M$ shill has risen  DarthRidiculous | 09/29/06
That's right Gerald, must be a shill  eb276 | 09/29/06
It's certainly easier than making an argument  toadlife | 09/29/06
Will vista Kill Linux?  abujal2002@... | 09/29/06
No! Linux will commit suicide!  joemartn | 09/29/06
Why all the negative posts?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/29/06
okay dont use it, f**k off  galileon | 09/29/06
Thanks for proving the point!  eb276 | 09/29/06
Yup, sounds like a typical Linux supporter. (nt)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/29/06
It's not Windows...  jshaw4343 | 09/29/06
Why Keep Skirting The WGA Issues Bitty??  itanalyst | 09/29/06
Linux users = out of touch  jimfitzp@... | 09/29/06
M$ users=dumb masses  DarthRidiculous | 09/29/06
Dumb masses?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/29/06
No, its called experience  DarthRidiculous | 09/29/06
Experiance? How old are you?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/29/06
They don't choose, M$ chooses for them  DarthRidiculous | 09/29/06
Hogwash...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/29/06
Revistied.... I just had too.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/29/06
Axe are you going to address WGA problem?  DarthRidiculous | 09/30/06
Gerals, what has this article to do with WGA?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/30/06
hmmm . . .  CobraA1 | 09/30/06
It has a lot to do with it...  zkiwi | 09/30/06
50's Shmifties, I'm in my mid 60's  Ole Man | 09/30/06
Well...  zkiwi | 09/29/06
The problems with ideology  TonyMcS | 10/01/06
One thing you forgot to notice  zkiwi | 10/01/06
The main reason is...  Spikey_Mike | 10/02/06
My criticism...  jasonp@... | 10/02/06
Thank you India - Another US dumb educators  johnbrown362003 | 09/29/06
Sorry, that doesn't cut it.  eb276 | 09/29/06
Mindsets versus the numbers  johnbrown362003 | 09/29/06
Stil don't buy it.  eb276 | 09/29/06
Don't worry they are starting to outsource educators now  Edward Meyers | 09/29/06
Sorry to burst your bubble  zkiwi | 09/29/06
Vouchers are the Answer  savatar | 10/01/06
That's tunnel vision!  General C# | 09/29/06
All Goliaths eventually fall, ask IBM and Xerox.  shadowtaker | 09/29/06
Competition rules  Omch'Ar | 09/29/06
Vista Will Be Killed By WGA  itanalyst | 09/29/06
Ironic  marksashton | 09/29/06
So after reading this story... twice.  Linux User 147560 | 09/29/06
So funny! That's an 8!  eb276 | 09/29/06
Actually...  zkiwi | 09/29/06
soothsayer ?  j.dupont | 09/29/06
What's happening with Apple and education?  Mark Miller | 09/30/06
Loss leaders were just losers  Fred Fredrickson | 10/03/06
Cost not figured right  Edward Meyers | 09/30/06
Aand yet in real life...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/30/06
What you see that Windows cost more?  Edward Meyers | 09/30/06
Let me explain it for you.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/30/06
Except  Edward Meyers | 09/30/06
Hey, if a limited  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/01/06
Media?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/01/06
Not paying attention are you?  Edward Meyers | 10/01/06
True, any fool can break the law.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/02/06
Just to annoy you  zkiwi | 09/30/06
According to this article  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/01/06
And...  zkiwi | 10/01/06
He also leaves out  Edward Meyers | 10/01/06
Gee, maybe he need machines now...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/02/06
More likely...  Spikey_Mike | 10/02/06
and U being at ZD 24X7 how do you know about REAL LIFE?  michael_t | 10/02/06
At first I agree with your point of view that the  michael_t | 10/02/06
Most Students Are Too Stupid For Linux  RobertoSalazar | 09/30/06
That is ridiculous  mobrien_12@... | 09/30/06
You harm Linux more than MS ever could.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/01/06
And yet...  zkiwi | 10/01/06
Not hardly...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/02/06
Ironically, you always accuse others for behavior that U engage in  michael_t | 10/02/06
You forgot about CALs. $50,000 a year. Let's hope you don't get audited.  olePigeon | 09/30/06
Where to start?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/01/06
Message has been deleted.  DarthRidiculous | 10/01/06
Clearly, you don't work in IT nor work at school district.  olePigeon | 10/01/06
Don't worry old bird...  Linux User 147560 | 10/01/06
I was really hoping to get a ZDNet response.  olePigeon | 10/02/06
TCO studies have favoured Macs  MacCanuck | 10/02/06
About sums it up. [nt]  olePigeon | 10/03/06
sorry, we're fully licensed and it's no whare near that expensive.  mombo | 10/06/06
iMacs?  Fred Fredrickson | 10/02/06
actually most of the undergrad lab PC are pre-2000 era  mombo | 10/06/06
So to make your job as a teacher a little easier, you are willing to deny  Update victim | 10/02/06
continuation caused by this forum software.  Update victim | 10/02/06
I have not met too many students who want...  mombo | 10/06/06
Easy Way Out  rick.philips@... | 10/08/06

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