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RE: Snow Leopard upgrade: what's in it for me?
How does "the 32-bit OS X kernel can run 64-bit apps" work? Is it a hack, or could Microsoft have implemented this in Windows too?
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Talk about a "Snow Leopard Capable" fiasco!!!  NonZealot | 08/25/09
SN is for hardware that is coming, not what has been.  Ken_z | 08/26/09
None NZ?  Metronome49 | 08/26/09
No Different than a Windows System Rev  steve@... | 08/26/09
Microsoft Does It = Brutal?...  windozefreak | 08/26/09
Great response!!!  tim@... | 08/26/09
XP to Vista  FFeliciano | 08/28/09
Yes not called for  bklooste | 08/28/09
Minimum RAM to run OS  chromeronin | 08/30/09
Tiger  Evilyn | 09/02/09
Microsoft man educates us about Macs!  dogbreath1 | 08/26/09
So then...  gnesterenko | 08/28/09
Didn't learn from Microsoft.  phatkat | 08/26/09
How were those Vista Capable PCs not Vista Capable?  NonZealot | 08/26/09
hardly comparable  grail@... | 08/26/09
Agreed but not all MS's fault  otaddy | 08/27/09
Didn't you get the memo?  zkiwi | 08/27/09
I guess not but sounds like it is Intel's fault  otaddy | 08/29/09
Are you sure?  Evilyn | 09/03/09
maybe you should think first  dfp48 | 08/28/09
RE: Snow Leopard upgrade: what's in it for me?  ericg@... | 08/25/09
The bext explanation I've seen...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/25/09
Doesn't answer above post  gnesterenko | 08/28/09
Yes, MS could  Richard Flude | 08/25/09
Misunderstandings  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/26/09
But they do  Richard Flude | 08/26/09
Built-in graphics  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/26/09
Integrated or not doesn't make a difference  Richard Flude | 08/26/09
Let me know when...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/26/09
That's a good question  NonZealot | 08/26/09
stop the damage control...  CrashPad | 08/26/09
1st-gen Mac Pro - no 64-bit?!  mrbofus | 08/26/09
No 64-bit EFI, no 64-bit kernel  dogbreath1 | 08/26/09
No 64-bit kernel, no 64-bit OS  NonZealot | 08/26/09
More untruths  Richard Flude | 08/26/09
Huh, sounds like Apple is trying to force hardware upgrades.  NonZealot | 08/26/09
Link please  Richard Flude | 08/26/09
Fair enough, let me rephrase  NonZealot | 08/26/09
Basic comprehension  Richard Flude | 08/26/09
Hey, it was YOUR quote  NonZealot | 08/26/09
Right, now try comprehending what was written  Richard Flude | 08/26/09
It shouldn't be this hard  NonZealot | 08/26/09
It isn't, it's simple  Richard Flude | 08/26/09
Apple has been doing that for years  madmax_2069 | 08/27/09
RE Apple has been doing it for years!  gnesterenko | 08/28/09
RE: Snow Leopard upgrade: what's in it for me?  kenosha7777 | 08/25/09
I already said...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/25/09
!=  Demzon | 08/26/09
Is that so wrong when the Mclaren costs the same as the Cobalt?  ye | 08/26/09
Valid point...  Demzon | 08/26/09
The Mini is a decent computer.  ye | 08/26/09
Thank you!  rahbm | 08/27/09
Then you're not looking hard enough  online@... | 08/26/09
No.  Metronome49 | 08/26/09
Exactly right  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/26/09
Not correct...  Demzon | 08/26/09
Yes correct.  Metronome49 | 08/27/09
Ok bad day  Demzon | 08/26/09
sidenote for Demzon  hoffmancarl | 08/26/09
Thanks  Demzon | 08/26/09
2007 ? pcs ...no  Hate Malware | 08/26/09
I think a lot of people are underestimating  frgough | 08/25/09
Really?  crazydanr@... | 08/25/09
visio appeal to the crowd who think  frgough | 08/26/09
re: Da Bomb  Badgered | 08/26/09
Yes, I did.  frgough | 08/26/09
I see...  Badgered | 08/26/09
Exactly!  apostate | 08/26/09
THANK you  gnesterenko | 08/28/09
Not even close  DeusExMachina | 09/09/09
I notice...  James T. Kirk | 08/26/09
My apologies  frgough | 08/26/09
No...  apostate | 08/26/09
Apple elitist at it's finest.  CrashPad | 08/26/09
And Macs appeal to the crowd  apostate | 08/26/09
re: "Really?"  RedVeg | 08/26/09
RE: Snow Leopard upgrade: what's in it for me?  kenosha7777 | 08/25/09
They might feel a little snappier  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/25/09
No viruses to measure yet either  dogbreath1 | 08/26/09
Um... Yes there are...  kaizoman | 08/26/09
Show me a website ....  mrlinux | 08/26/09
Try to remember...  Jkirk3279 | 08/26/09
Lol, it's always funny when  rtk | 08/26/09
So...  Jkirk3279 | 08/26/09
No...  rtk | 08/26/09
Missing the forrest for the trees  gnesterenko | 08/28/09
I'm tech savvy and I know no platform is immune.  HypnoToad72 | 08/28/09
RE: Snow Leopard upgrade: what's in it for me?  MC_z | 08/25/09
Bott is correct!!  Mike Cox | 08/25/09
Wow!  dprozzo | 08/25/09
You must be new  bmonsterman | 08/26/09
You have it wrong  dfolk2 | 08/26/09
Not new  dprozzo | 08/26/09
But wait!  online@... | 08/26/09
Yes...  Jkirk3279 | 08/26/09
Why $29 is an issue?  kisap | 08/26/09
people are really going to pay for this?  booraddly | 08/25/09
Have you actually read what has been done to Snow Leopard, or...  A Grain of Salt | 08/26/09
QTX  odcchaz | 08/26/09
Exchange support on a PC  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/26/09
I'm Don't Think That's Correct w/Exchange 2007  Boulder_Bum | 08/26/09
You're right  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/26/09
I wouldn't pay for it....  storm14k | 08/26/09
ED, your conclusion is wrong  sigma2 | 08/25/09
The difference was $150-300  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/26/09
He bought the old Mac Mini...  mrlinux | 08/26/09
Beautifully stated  frgough | 08/26/09
Ironic.  HypnoToad72 | 08/26/09
Where exactly  gnesterenko | 08/31/09
Just the vastly improved Time Machine Backup...  sigma2 | 08/25/09
Ed you scrapping the barrel again  martin23 | 08/26/09
MS's "preoccupation"  Ben_E | 08/26/09
Well...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/26/09
But you wrote last month!  sigma2 | 08/26/09
I often buy a recently discontinued model  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/26/09
Best bang for the buck  Narg | 08/26/09
Lame and disingenuous, Ed  TCollinsG3 | 08/26/09
Funny  JasonJD48 | 08/26/09
Often Always  Patanjali | 08/27/09
did a double take there...  gnesterenko | 08/31/09
Start Over?  aj.redmond@... | 08/26/09
choosing to stay?  armith@... | 08/26/09
I agree  aj.redmond@... | 08/27/09
Yet more woods missed while trees abound  gnesterenko | 08/31/09
I can't really agree on that  PlayFair | 09/01/09
Now your guessing Ed  martin23 | 08/26/09
*sigh*  gnesterenko | 08/31/09
Is there any technical reason his Mini cannot run the 64 bit kernel?  ye | 08/26/09
I have heard that it has to do with EFI  A Grain of Salt | 08/26/09
Correct  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/26/09
No, it's not EFI. My MacBook has 64 bit EFI.  ye | 08/26/09
I think the author of the table had made some mistakes on it..  A Grain of Salt | 08/26/09
From Jason O'Grady's earlier article:  ye | 08/26/09
That'd suck if it were the case.  A Grain of Salt | 08/26/09
@A Grain of Salt: I'm waiting for the final build.  ye | 08/26/09
A voice of sanity  A Grain of Salt | 08/26/09
@A Grain of Salt: I'm still on Tiger so the total improvements...  ye | 08/26/09
Looks like it's 32 bit:  ye | 08/26/09
32-bit EFI can be updated to 64-bit EFI  perronne | 08/26/09
Correct, it's EFI...  olePigeon | 08/26/09
Never mind the registry, grossly fragmwnting-prone file systems, and other  HypnoToad72 | 08/26/09
Windows  JasonJD48 | 08/26/09
Simple  Mectron | 08/26/09
XP Virtualisation only on some processors  grail@... | 08/26/09
You apple attitude is showing  gnesterenko | 08/31/09
Nice Work Ed  javajunkie@... | 08/26/09
Nice critical thinking on your part too  HypnoToad72 | 08/26/09
You want to compare performance ...  mrlinux | 08/26/09
Have your mind made up already, do you?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/26/09
Ed. It does not take a rocket scientist...  mrlinux | 08/26/09
Huh  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/26/09
Ed my reference to core solo was meant as...  mrlinux | 08/26/09
Why would I do that?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/26/09
Well I do not understand...  mrlinux | 08/26/09
Because the price and specs met my needs  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/26/09
A mind?  eqpc | 08/26/09
Well lets make it personal...  mrlinux | 08/26/09
Hmmm..  eqpc | 08/26/09
Well I meant the test was biased...  mrlinux | 08/26/09
What test?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/26/09
just got back from the future...  pgit | 08/26/09
lol @pgit  gnesterenko | 08/31/09
If you want to do a real OS performance comparison...  wolf_z | 08/26/09
I might do exactly that  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/26/09
Now that would be a fair test...  mrlinux | 08/26/09
Who said anything about performance tests???  Narg | 08/26/09
Well read the first paragraph ...  mrlinux | 08/27/09
Shouldnt matter  bklooste | 08/28/09
RE: Snow Leopard upgrade: what's in it for me?  kenosha7777 | 08/26/09
Excellent post, Ed  HollywoodDog | 08/26/09
@ED..  mrlinux | 08/26/09
Sigh  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/26/09
Macs and end of life  faxmonkey | 08/26/09
Useless??????  David Hamilton | 08/26/09
Yes.  faxmonkey | 08/26/09
Odd...  Jkirk3279 | 08/26/09
I'm sorry, you're not making sense  David Hamilton | 08/29/09
That link again  David Hamilton | 08/29/09
...and again  David Hamilton | 08/29/09
Also, what is the relevance to Snow Leopard?  David Hamilton | 08/29/09
You support macs?!? Fail  DeusExMachina | 08/26/09
Oh noes!  Sleeper Service | 08/26/09
Sorry for the confusion, thanks, Sleeper...  faxmonkey | 08/26/09
Indeed . . .  TCollinsG3 | 08/26/09
Yeah like it really matters...  Sleeper Service | 08/27/09
It is directly relevant to the conversation  DeusExMachina | 08/27/09
Why?  Sleeper Service | 08/28/09
And as I repeatedly pointed out  DeusExMachina | 08/28/09
O RLY?  Sleeper Service | 08/31/09
Yes, really  DeusExMachina | 08/31/09
The sky HAS fallen  DeusExMachina | 08/26/09
That's funny.  rtk | 08/26/09
Math  DeusExMachina | 08/26/09
Math, and reading comprehension.  rtk | 08/26/09
Neither wrong, nor nit picking.  DeusExMachina | 08/27/09
Wow, wordy  rtk | 08/27/09
Concise  DeusExMachina | 08/28/09
*facepalm*  Sleeper Service | 08/27/09
Last post to hopefully settle this issue @ Deus  faxmonkey | 08/27/09
Indeed it does  DeusExMachina | 08/27/09
Because I am clearly not  DeusExMachina | 08/27/09
Two questions...  Sleeper Service | 08/28/09
Hooked on Phonics  DeusExMachina | 08/28/09
Intel Macs were released in 2006  doh123 | 08/29/09
@doh123  rtk | 08/29/09
Tsk!  Sleeper Service | 08/31/09
So?  DeusExMachina | 08/31/09
Of course the problem with mac could be...  friedcow | 08/26/09
I think your brain is in backwards.  Jkirk3279 | 08/26/09
Neuroscience major?  DeusExMachina | 08/27/09
Thanks for the post  NonZealot | 08/26/09
Microsoft Partners: 'Snow Leopard FAR EXCEEDS PERFORMANCE of Win 7"  Davewrite | 08/26/09
Might want to recheck that quote  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/26/09
here's the rest beyond what you picked out  Davewrite | 08/26/09
The second quote merely states...  ye | 08/26/09
really Msft partners, some GOLD level praising Snow not significant? wow nt  Davewrite | 08/26/09
Not really.  ye | 08/26/09
Been there, Done that, Failed to get a t-shirt....  Narg | 08/26/09
point is that apple not making the statements but Msft partners  Davewrite | 08/26/09
Can you point me to these articles?  ye | 08/26/09
since you asked here are some....  Davewrite | 08/26/09
Is that the Popular Mechanics article...  Sleeper Service | 08/26/09
@ sleeper, it's the article where the Gateway had 3 GB Ram and iMac 1 Gb  Davewrite | 08/26/09
@Davewrite: That's it? Startup, Shutdown, and Program Launch?  ye | 08/26/09
@ye look at what Narg said which I'm replying to  Davewrite | 08/26/09
@Davewrite: Sorry but Startup, Shudown, and Application Launch times...  ye | 08/26/09
ye: WSJ, Computerworld Ed. in Chief, Popular Mech. = baseless to you.  Davewrite | 08/26/09
Reading comprehension  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/26/09
Compare not review? that's ok? wow shows me your professionalism  Davewrite | 08/26/09
Good  Harry Bardal | 08/26/09
Thanks, Harry  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/26/09
You know what they say about a million monkeys?  NonZealot | 08/26/09
Ed...  mrlinux | 08/27/09
Could be all sorts of things...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/27/09
That does not answer the questions  mrlinux | 08/27/09
you forgot some of the quote  coffeeshark | 08/26/09
You miss out Huckaby's CONCLUSION though....  Davewrite | 08/26/09
So what you're saying...  Sleeper Service | 08/27/09
RE: Snow Leopard upgrade: what's in it for me?  Potts | 08/26/09
corrections  rtk | 08/26/09
You CLEARLY don't know what you are talking about.  DeusExMachina | 08/27/09
Here's an idea, Deus.  rtk | 08/27/09
Your arguments are far too obtuse to burst any bubble  DeusExMachina | 08/27/09
Lie away then...  zkiwi | 08/27/09
Or, just make it up as ya go along.  rtk | 08/27/09
Well...  zkiwi | 08/27/09
Yup, sure did.  rtk | 08/27/09
That's all you've got?! Complaints about timeliness? REALLY?!?  DeusExMachina | 08/31/09
You are thick  rtk | 09/01/09
And yet there my post is.  DeusExMachina | 09/05/09
Of course Arstechnica is wrong.  rtk | 09/05/09
So?  DeusExMachina | 09/06/09
No.  rtk | 09/07/09
A resounding yes  DeusExMachina | 09/07/09
Hackintosh Users  nobby57 | 08/26/09
Ho Hum  Baer | 08/26/09
Which raises the question: If you don't care why...  ye | 08/26/09
Because  gnesterenko | 08/31/09
Clearly the older Mac's Lose out  jscott418 | 08/26/09
I believe you're thinking of Panther.  ye | 08/26/09
RE: Snow Leopard upgrade: what's in it for me?  dpbabcock | 08/26/09
I'll anxiously look forward to your review Ed  NonZealot | 08/26/09
Mac Pro "Years"  nrshap | 08/26/09
Nothing, but I'm not surprised because  Laraine Anne Barker | 08/26/09
You sure about that?  NonZealot | 08/26/09
Really?  Sleeper Service | 08/27/09
RE: Snow Leopard upgrade: what's in it for me?  docmurdock | 08/26/09
RE: Snow Leopard upgrade: what's in it for me?  docmurdock | 08/26/09
Where'd you come from anyway  gnesterenko | 08/31/09
RE: Check your source  john_e_fish | 08/26/09
RE:Bott's Mac Mini  john_e_fish | 08/26/09
Good points but Arguing with Bott is a waste. He's made up his mind  Davewrite | 08/26/09
You don't understand Ed Bott  grail@... | 08/26/09
Unlike the Mac users  JasonJD48 | 08/28/09
Just wondering  Evilyn | 09/03/09
Yes  JasonJD48 | 09/10/09
Blind leading the blind  gnesterenko | 08/31/09
Factual discussion not possible.  john_e_fish | 08/27/09
in answer to your last question  gnesterenko | 08/31/09
RE: Open bias might include correct facts  john_e_fish | 08/27/09
RE: Snow Leopard upgrade: what's in it for me?  JohnnieBG2 | 08/27/09
No they charge more...  mrlinux | 08/27/09
Sure, 7 is a service pack which merely adds  honeymonster | 08/28/09
Good post  gnesterenko | 08/31/09
RE: Snow Leopard upgrade: what's in it for me?  madmax_2069 | 08/27/09
NYT technology analyst David Pogue thinks this is an excellent upgrade  dfolk2 | 08/27/09
The chart is wrong  dheady@... | 08/27/09
Seems like all the hardware manufacturers are  chrome_slinky@... | 08/27/09
meant to post elsewhere :S  floccibob | 08/28/09
What I'm doing with my iMac and SL right now  mlindl | 08/31/09
Good for you!  NonZealot | 08/31/09
Microsoft shill at work here.  AdventTech67 | 11/14/09
RE: Snow Leopard upgrade: what's in it for me?  cocococo013 | 11/16/09

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