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Why are people so obsessed with unused RAM?
What, pray tell, is the purpose of RAM if it isn't for it to be used by something? Bragging about unused RAM is like bragging about how your grocery getter has 500HP even though you never use more than 50HP.

use more memory on purpose to speed things up, but never unbounded

Exactly right. If there is a bug where it demands more than that, fair enough, but it isn't a bug to use everything but 50MB of RAM if getting that RAM means that the job finishes faster.

Yawn, I guess when ABMers have nothing to complain about, they'll just make stuff up.
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Why are people so obsessed with unused RAM?  NonZealot | 08/05/09
It's not the unused RAM thing  Lerianis10 | 08/05/09
Why not?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/05/09
Yup  rdhalsteatzd | 08/05/09
Have to agree - Much Ado About Almost-Nothing  rickb@... | 08/06/09
/r is now radical???  jasonp@... | 08/06/09
That's my opinion based on experience  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/06/09
I find chkdsk myself useless for the most part  Randalllind | 08/06/09
Gee, I use chkdsk /f on occasion  UAC nanny screen | 08/06/09
Sounds to me like your HDD is about to die!  de-void | 08/10/09
Bad sectors  blaacksheep | 08/06/09
Whats the problem  rbettencourt@... | 08/06/09
it isn't even that  Macintoshtoffy | 08/06/09
Not quite  de-void | 08/10/09
So then how much?  payton@... | 08/06/09
Bogus.  sporkfighter | 08/07/09
chkdsk /r??  jmarks50@... | 08/24/09
Good question  NStalnecker | 08/05/09
I understand your confusion  frgough | 08/05/09
What are you talking about?  NonZealot | 08/05/09
I have to agree with Zealot...  vulpine@... | 08/06/09
That was the point...  mojorison67@... | 08/07/09
ChkDsk isn't a normal app  de-void | 08/10/09
RE: A killer Windows 7 bug? Sorry, no  Badgered | 08/05/09
As stated in the article  tikigawd | 08/06/09
re: As stated  Badgered | 08/06/09
Why is a non-boot drive less critical?  arkware | 08/06/09
As in all things, context is key  CrunchyFerrett | 08/06/09
Most users WOULD BE 'unaware of what's happening'  Spainy53 | 08/07/09
Clarification  Badgered | 08/06/09
DUH!  Dr.Who | 08/06/09
As with many things  tikigawd | 08/06/09
Not as critical...?  Wolfie2K3 | 08/06/09
re: Critical  Badgered | 08/07/09
So... back up your data  tikigawd | 08/08/09
I agree ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 08/05/09
As far as I know...  zwhittaker ZDNet Moderator | 08/05/09
Actually, it's 3 to 3.5 GB for X86  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/05/09
Well, not quite.  BrandonLive | 08/05/09
Thanks  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/05/09
You can use more than 2G on x86  rpmyers1 | 08/05/09
I Thought  jdbukis@... | 08/06/09
It was added with XP SP2  LiquidLearner | 08/06/09
Unless  LiquidLearner | 08/06/09
Excellent point Brandon ...  Adrian Kingsley-Hughes ZDNet Moderator | 08/06/09
As I understand it ...  mwagner@... | 08/06/09
I really appreciate all the insightful technicallities...  shadfurman | 08/11/09
Thanks for the info  dfolk2 | 08/06/09
Thanks Adrian.  No More Open Source Software!! | 08/06/09
Please, Adrian...do your OWN research! I ain't gonna do it for you!  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 08/10/09
Slight Misinformation  z_williamson | 08/05/09
You're correct  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/05/09
Sounds like Enquirer quality reporting: Aliens ate my dog!  BillDem | 08/05/09
Wrong, if it's a memory leak as stated.  CPPDEV | 08/06/09
Link to the article that states it is a memory leak  NonZealot | 08/06/09
Memory leaks don't always BSOD the system.  CPPDEV | 08/06/09
So when will SP1 be coming out?  vulpine@... | 08/06/09
Nah...  Sleeper Service | 08/07/09
There is no error  honeymonster | 08/09/09
I saw the Twitter see-saw banter  zwhittaker ZDNet Moderator | 08/05/09
Seriously?  dogbreath1 | 08/05/09
The /r switch is not a default  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/05/09
Non sequitur  mjpollard | 08/05/09
ditto!  dogbreath1 | 08/05/09
You're not "locked out"  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/05/09
High-performance computing  dogbreath1 | 08/05/09
Code does not always follow the same execution path.  CPPDEV | 08/06/09
There is no memory leak. It's a myth. Move on, nothing to see here (nt)  honeymonster | 08/09/09
Maybe not "insane"  ZDnet Reader 43 | 08/05/09
Thank you  thx-1138_@... | 08/06/09
Not to mention the fact that  honeymonster | 08/09/09
I don't get it.  deowll | 08/06/09
Bad RAM will lead to crashes  sverm@... | 08/05/09
And that is bad why?  jsedlak | 08/05/09
All BSOD I see these days are cause by bad memory  Randalllind | 08/06/09
Couldn't bad RAM cause crashes regardless of chkdsk?  tikigawd | 08/06/09
yea  Randalllind | 08/06/09
I was being sarcastic  tikigawd | 08/06/09
Memtest86 is OK, but it  nfhiggs@... | 08/06/09
That's true of almost any diag utility on a PC  LiquidLearner | 08/06/09
RE: A killer Windows 7 bug? Sorry, no  condelirios | 08/05/09
RE: A killer Windows 7 bug? Sorry, no  gkeramidas@... | 08/05/09
Does this also occur on Windows Server 2008 R2?  Michael Kelly | 08/05/09
Yes, it does occur on Server 2008  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/05/09
If you prepared for disk failure-  CTRLurself | 08/06/09
I agree  LiquidLearner | 08/06/09
excellent article  GDF | 08/05/09
Faulty Drives Only?  lehnerus2000 | 08/05/09
I've done this  Bryan Price | 08/06/09
RE: A killer Windows 7 bug? Sorry, no  SteveZodiac | 08/06/09
The PC has the RAM.  eljay001 | 08/06/09
Bug or feature???  CPPDEV | 08/06/09
Stroustrup primer on memory leaks...  CPPDEV | 08/06/09
Perhaps you need to re-read that primer you keep posting  Omnigrok | 08/06/09
Read the links in the Bott article  CPPDEV | 08/06/09
Reading comprehension ...  mckenzl | 08/06/09
Check out the link in the Bott article...  CPPDEV | 08/06/09
RE: A killer Windows 7 bug? Sorry, no  csharp4 | 08/06/09
If true, what else can this faulty chipset driver mess up?  CPPDEV | 08/06/09
Wow, can you name the perfect foundation you code for!  NonZealot | 08/06/09
That doesn't answer the question  UAC nanny screen | 08/06/09
I only want my code to work all the time!  CPPDEV | 08/06/09
You follow your clients example  satovey@... | 08/07/09
Not at square one  Greenknight_z | 08/07/09
Microsoft has said no such thing  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/06/09
Chipset driver most likely to blame!  csharp4 | 08/06/09
There is not such thing as a "Showstopping bug" in Win7  WiredGuy | 08/06/09
Regarding that "error" that apears when a usb memory in inserted  ionutm | 08/06/09
Regarding that usb error  ionutm | 08/06/09
Fascinating to watch this unfold  Economister | 08/06/09
Look at the actual facts  NonZealot | 08/06/09
'Facts'?  Tom6 | 08/06/09
I agree but this doesn't fit the profile  NonZealot | 08/06/09
Balanced & realistic  Tom6 | 08/06/09
RE: A killer Windows 7 bug? Sorry, no  super_J | 08/06/09
Terrible example  NonZealot | 08/06/09
Proved your ignorance  super_J | 08/06/09
Not according to Windows Task Manager  NonZealot | 08/06/09
Maybe you should debate the differences...  vulpine@... | 08/06/09
I disagree  eb276 | 08/07/09
You can disagree, but you'd be wrong.  rtk | 08/07/09
No i wouldn't  eb276 | 08/07/09
Here's a link for you to start with...  rtk | 08/07/09
Sorry buddy  eb276 | 08/07/09
and by the way  eb276 | 08/07/09
I'm not your buddy, guy. wink  rtk | 08/07/09
I don't believe you  eb276 | 08/09/09
You're so dramatic  ITLeader | 08/10/09
Just for clarification  rtk | 08/10/09
nt  eb276 | 08/10/09
There are scenarios  ITLeader | 08/10/09
Such as?  rtk | 08/10/09
How about the scenario  ITLeader | 08/10/09
Researching a bit further  ITLeader | 08/10/09
CUCM  Real World | 08/06/09
Well, no ...  super_J | 08/06/09
Something good about disk management in W7  koby@... | 08/06/09
afaik  magallanes | 08/06/09
The reason Win7 system disks are less fragmented ...  de-void | 08/11/09
RE: A killer Windows 7 bug? Sorry, no  bb_apptix | 08/06/09
Windows Mohave... the best example of Astroturf...  cosuna | 08/06/09
you?ll ever crash a system this way is very, very small and completely avoi  magallanes | 08/06/09
RE: A killer Windows 7 bug? Sorry, no  JimAchuff | 08/06/09
RE: A killer Windows 7 bug? Sorry, no  Pyrotech_z | 08/06/09
Arguably a feature??  johnnydoe1894 | 08/06/09
In this case, it is true  NonZealot | 08/06/09
RE: A killer Windows 7 bug? Sorry, no  ramnet@... | 08/06/09
The only show-stopper here is the average consumer...  vulpine@... | 08/06/09
Bingo :*) [nt]  thx-1138_@... | 08/06/09
So how many of them...  Sleeper Service | 08/07/09
Contempt for unsophisticated users...  Spainy53 | 08/07/09
Actually, it's comtempt for human nature  thx-1138_@... | 08/07/09
RE: A killer Windows 7 bug? Sorry, no  SFalchionRomantic | 08/06/09
RE: A killer Windows 7 bug? Sorry, no  TechTeach_z | 08/06/09
I found another "bug"...  jerry@... | 08/06/09
I havent....  JoeMama_z | 08/06/09
Yes!  jerry@... | 08/06/09
Reminds me of Win95 and Win98  satovey@... | 08/07/09
RE: A killer Windows 7 bug? Sorry, no  azsilvertip | 08/06/09
Crashed on me too  troubled241 | 08/06/09
RE: A killer Windows 7 bug? Sorry, no  super_J | 08/06/09
@Ed Bott; please read this  D2 Ultima | 08/06/09
I added and "s" to your name by accident, my bad. (nt)  D2 Ultima | 08/06/09
You can edit posts. (nt)  ye | 08/06/09
Oh thanks for telling me  D2 Ultima | 08/06/09
RE: A killer Windows 7 bug? Sorry, no  bob3160_z | 08/06/09
Geeks Drinking Too Much Soda  jpr75_z | 08/06/09
No.. Not soda...  Wolfie2K3 | 08/06/09
RE: A killer Windows 7 bug? Sorry, no  ghirte@... | 08/06/09
How you kill an operating system...  mikifinaz1@... | 08/06/09
Half true, this is  D2 Ultima | 08/06/09
Maybe less  Spainy53 | 08/07/09
A Killer Win 7 Bug? Been around far longer.  Wolferzz | 08/06/09
RE: A killer Windows 7 bug? Sorry, no  dwightr@... | 08/06/09
Not the same  Wolferzz | 08/06/09
RE: A killer Windows 7 bug? Sorry, no  Jackiesolution | 08/06/09
Geek Wars.... lol  Jibbits Jr | 08/06/09
Workaround? Do tell!  CPPDEV | 08/06/09
It would be nice, but...  Hazconj | 08/07/09
Regular users are not early adopters.  CPPDEV | 08/07/09
Quote from Mr. Bott's "rather nasty" link above....  CPPDEV | 08/06/09
Oh shut up.  Sleeper Service | 08/07/09
Memory leaks do not ALWAYS eat all the RAM!  CPPDEV | 08/07/09
Memory leaks NEVER stop short at physical RAM  honeymonster | 08/09/09
It's not a memory leak  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/07/09
So, is the "rather nasty" guy making it all up?  CPPDEV | 08/07/09
Yes, he is making it up  honeymonster | 08/09/09
It is not that difficult  honeymonster | 08/07/09
So, is the story made up?  CPPDEV | 08/07/09
Yes, it is made up  honeymonster | 08/08/09
Tried it with bitlocker, NTFS compression, EFS?  jparr | 08/07/09
Lets for the sake of arguement....  satovey@... | 08/07/09
Is everyone really this Ignorant?  Wolferzz | 08/07/09
No, they are deliberately facetious  honeymonster | 08/09/09
Maybe they are that stupid?  Wolferzz | 08/11/09
Looks like a PLOT to derail Win7  dtroyerSMU | 08/07/09
Not a plot, just mistrust of MS code.  CPPDEV | 08/07/09
And the rave reviews and positive reception of Windows 7 bothers you?  honeymonster | 08/09/09
RE: A killer Windows 7 bug? Sorry, no  morgancoxuk@... | 08/08/09
Re: Another reason to stay with XP ..by Microsoft  sphar@... | 08/09/09
Since when were "features" cured by changing the chipset?  whisperycat | 08/11/09
Never  NonZealot | 08/11/09
Except when they are, you mean?  whisperycat | 08/11/09
LOL ComputerWeekly is infallible?  NonZealot | 08/11/09
Still not clear  whisperycat | 08/11/09
If you're so certain and convinced...  thx-1138_@... | 08/11/09
Your post is counter-productive  NonZealot | 08/11/09
I concur.  honeymonster | 08/11/09
There were 2 (two) issues reported originally  honeymonster | 08/11/09
You might want to read this...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/11/09
Indeed. I just wish  honeymonster | 08/11/09
Oh no I've been told off by NZ & Hmonster!  whisperycat | 08/12/09
Ok, to keep it REALLY simple  honeymonster | 08/12/09
Keep reading...  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/12/09
I have to agree with NZ, you are the one who is looking stupid  honeymonster | 08/11/09
A message for the faithfull  whisperycat | 08/12/09
So you're a self-proclaimed troll? or..  honeymonster | 08/12/09
Poor Honey  whisperycat | 08/12/09
Whisperycat's "Confessions of a trolling, time-waster"  thx-1138_@... | 08/12/09
Great essay!  whisperycat | 08/12/09
Thanks, thx-1138! Remember Peter Gutmann?  honeymonster | 08/12/09
@whisperytroll  thx-1138_@... | 08/12/09
RE: A killer Windows 7 bug? Sorry, no  whisperycat | 08/12/09
nasty bug  laszlo97 | 08/14/09
Let's talk about the UI regressions instead.  dgurney | 08/16/09
Windows 7 a Microsoft BUG? Sorry, YES...  savge | 08/26/09
Bahahahahahahah  rtk | 08/26/09
RE: A killer Windows 7 bug? Sorry, no  UsernameRequired | 09/10/09
Ha ha ha  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 09/10/09

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