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Using the math you laid out in your article for my scenario:

Leopard to Snow Leopard (Tiger came with my Mac):
$129 + $29 = $158

XP Pro (XP Home sucks) + Vista Ultimate (Upgrade) + Windows 7
Ultimate (Upgrade):
$129 + $329 + $220 = $778

$778 - $158 = $620 savings on a Mac

Even with the Snow Leopard family pack ($49 to upgrade 5 Intel Macs)
my upgrade path would still be cheaper. This article is no different
from what a Mac fanboi would write up for the Mac side. Other
variables include, and not discussed in this article, people not being
happy with XP/Vista Home and upgrading (by purchase or pirating) to
XP Pro/Vista Ultimate. As much as I detest all the Jobs/Apple fellatio
that goes on online, Apple's pricing is crushing Microsoft.

Let's not stop there ... $0 for Linux Mint and I can run that on a
regular PC and a Mac, and it too is a superb operating system.

IRT the PowerPC argument, when Apple transitioned to Intel PC
manufacturers were transitioning to Core Duos from the P4, and the
standard RAM amount was 512MB. Sure, PowerPC users are left in the
dark. Because of Vista's requirements, PC users would either have to
upgrade their processor and RAM, or buy a whole new computer so
Vista could run adequately. So, either they are left in the dark too, or
the cost of their PC just increased.

It helps both sides of an argument to not be biased.
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WRONG about Tiger upgrade price!  Stuka | 06/26/09
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Model number  jragosta | 06/27/09
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uh, Dude  781lc | 06/26/09
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With jragosta  Wintel BSOD | 06/29/09
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They are crap  Kaiwai | 06/26/09
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and your point is  martin23 | 06/28/09
....  Badgered | 06/29/09
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Moot point/S  mjolnar@... | 06/26/09
Wow  jragosta | 06/28/09
Awesome!  Sleeper Service | 06/28/09
Irrelevant  jragosta | 06/28/09
Mac basher?  Sleeper Service | 06/28/09
Really?  jragosta | 06/28/09
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RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  DannyO_0x98 | 06/26/09
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Math error  rxmz20 | 06/26/09
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On to  DannyO_0x98 | 06/26/09
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Ed: Check your numbers.  isulzer | 06/26/09
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PS  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/26/09
Oh.  isulzer | 06/26/09
14.4 11.1 8.2  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/26/09
And yet.  isulzer | 06/26/09
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Spell checker  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/28/09
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SO if you have a 1.4 Ghz P3 from 2001 you can upgrade(?) '01 macs not. Wow.  Davewrite | 06/26/09
The funny part  Kaiwai | 06/26/09
P4s running Vista  MadWhiteHatter | 06/26/09
P4's 3.8Ghz were still produced in 2008, I was talking about those in 01  Davewrite | 06/26/09
I've run Vista RTM on a P4 1.5GHz with 1GB RAM.  ye | 06/27/09
WOW, look at all the denial... Smoke and Mirrors...  Narg | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  bob@... | 06/26/09
What Ed means..I think  TylerM89 | 06/26/09
Love your commentaries, Ed!  chas_2 | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  spotvin | 06/26/09
Uh, excuse me?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/26/09
There is only one Mac OS X  fernande-zdnet | 06/26/09
Why?  Sleeper Service | 06/26/09
re:Why?  robertleeking@... | 06/26/09
List them specifically.  Sleeper Service | 06/27/09
That's one major problem with OSx  Narg | 06/29/09
What's Missing  jmorgus@... | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  anogee | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  step69 | 06/26/09
MS not strong arming  jmorgus@... | 06/26/09
Thats the dumbest and most miss-informative analysis I've seen in a while.  jimboutilier@... | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  code4fun | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  mikeotown@... | 06/26/09
Tricky Comparison  fernande-zdnet | 06/26/09
Pricing  fernande-zdnet | 06/26/09
um...  Badgered | 06/26/09
It's real simple.  UrbanBard | 06/26/09
....  Badgered | 06/29/09
One more reason Apple is the dark side  Steve Goldman | 06/26/09
logically...  sfazly | 06/26/09
This is the worst article I have ever read  zannetos | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  tnelson@... | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  webnuts4u2-news@... | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  john_r_wilson@... | 06/26/09
Math is wrong  kurtinatlanta | 06/26/09
Where are...  TylerM89 | 06/26/09
From Microsoft.  kurtinatlanta | 06/26/09
Okay, wel..  TylerM89 | 06/26/09
No corporate market for OS X... Riiiiiiight.  vulpine@... | 06/27/09
Oh right...  Sleeper Service | 06/28/09
Since the bloat's been removed...  vulpine@... | 06/28/09
Think very carefully...  Sleeper Service | 06/28/09
Memo  Partners in Grime | 06/28/09
We're getting the numbers from MicroSoft itself.  vulpine@... | 06/27/09
A lot of noise and a lot of bias--on both sides  vulpine@... | 06/26/09
At last a post worth reading.  james@... | 06/26/09
Good points there - nt  Davewrite | 06/26/09
Longhorn was worse than you claim.  UrbanBard | 06/26/09
Re: Isn't Snow Leopard essentially a service pack? SPs are Free from MS  Love the Articles | 06/26/09
I'm glad you qualified that with an 'If'  vulpine@... | 06/26/09
Then, add in all the new features.  UrbanBard | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  Gyula Bognar, Jr. | 06/26/09
A lotta math wizards here . . .  zarvos | 06/26/09
On the MS payroll? Your figures do not add up.  rhon@... | 06/26/09
I did those calculations  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/26/09
Ed, don't you mean...?  vulpine@... | 06/27/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  webnuts4u2-news@... | 06/26/09
Thanks Ed...  Sleeper Service | 06/26/09
@sleeper service...  vulpine@... | 06/27/09
You're right....  Sleeper Service | 06/28/09
Numbers aren't the entire story, though too many think it is.  vulpine@... | 06/28/09
I have no reason to doubt you...  Sleeper Service | 06/28/09
Master Joe Says...  MasterJoe | 06/26/09
MasterJoe, do you even know what you're saying?  vulpine@... | 06/27/09
Try installing Window 7 on a 7 year old PC...  minardi | 06/26/09
Been done...  Sleeper Service | 06/26/09
Duh  minardi | 06/26/09
Been done.  Sleeper Service | 06/26/09
it's also possible to dig a house foundation with spoons but why do it? nt  Davewrite | 06/26/09
That's my question.  ye | 06/27/09
Wait a second....  Badgered | 06/26/09
@Badgered  minardi | 06/26/09
XP runs just fine on 7 year old PCs.  ye | 06/27/09
@minardi  Badgered | 06/29/09
Totally innacurate analysis!! Read more...  shaival | 06/26/09
I just did  JoeMama_z | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  steve@... | 06/26/09
I bought BMW and now I have to pay for expensive maintenance?  HollywoodDog | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  Mabrick | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  jabba24 | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  etschuetz@... | 06/26/09
MS's internal name for System 7 is...  UrbanBard | 06/26/09
I see...  Sleeper Service | 06/27/09
Does it work?  InAction Man | 06/27/09
Moron  winski | 06/26/09
Apple and Jobs are nothing but scam artists  Crestview | 06/26/09
Where do you think your PC came from? NT  minardi | 06/26/09
PCs aren't made in U.S. At least Apple call centers for Americans in US.  Davewrite | 06/26/09
And? (nt)  NeoGeneration | 06/27/09
No serial numbers or activation hassles, iWork is cheap.  HollywoodDog | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  Kevin McCormick | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  smitsc05 | 06/26/09
Can we let this go please?  smitsc05 | 06/26/09
Now Ed, why haven't you told us Linux is free  Charles Norrie | 06/26/09
Not a fair comparision - actually.  TheWerewolf | 06/26/09
A very silly argument  Charles Norrie | 06/26/09
Answer: look at the ads on the right side of the screen.  nizuse | 06/27/09
If I'm thinking of the same blogger  rtk | 06/30/09
@Sleeper Service  Kaiwai | 06/26/09
Actually...  Sleeper Service | 06/26/09
Isn't this what they call cheap psychology?  InAction Man | 06/26/09
Not at the OU's prices it isn't.  Sleeper Service | 06/27/09
That means absolutely nothing. MBAs aren't cheap either and look...  InAction Man | 06/27/09
Price doesn't matter  rhspooky@... | 06/26/09
I recommend that Windows XP users upgrade.  UrbanBard | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  texaschad | 06/26/09
keep comparing apples and oranges (no pun intended)  hoffmancarl | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  kant1781 | 06/26/09
2001 pc with win 7  j-mccurdy@... | 06/27/09
It's not a tall hill to climb ...  SunnyGuy53 | 06/28/09
Orphaned PowerPC G5s  tahoe_blue | 06/26/09
What about your current OS is preventing you from doing your work now?  steve@... | 06/26/09
don't over-react, or pretend to be Buddha  tahoe_blue | 06/26/09
RE don't over-react, or pretend to be Buddha  j-mccurdy@... | 06/27/09
Time moves on; Intel is the future.  UrbanBard | 06/26/09
It is upsetting  fernande-zdnet | 06/26/09
i hear you  tahoe_blue | 06/26/09
Maybe  j-mccurdy@... | 06/27/09
don't jumpt to conclusions -- you have no knowledge of the context  tahoe_blue | 06/26/09
re:Orphaned PowerPC G5s  robertleeking@... | 06/26/09
M$ Ultimate vs. Apple Supreme  dogbreath1 | 06/26/09
You don't know what you're talking about.  j-mccurdy@... | 06/27/09
Oh, my  dogbreath1 | 06/27/09
$169 is for Tiger users, and includes iLife and iWork  drahardja | 06/26/09
Correct. Ed, you should read the parent post. [nt]  olePigeon | 06/26/09
Uh, that's exactly what I wrote  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/26/09
*hands you a flameproof suit*  TheWerewolf | 06/26/09
Conflict of interest  dogbreath1 | 06/26/09
It's all there at the end of the post in my bio  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/26/09
Really ed  j-mccurdy@... | 06/27/09
What your bio doesn't state  dogbreath1 | 06/27/09
Upgrade price  wjgrimm | 06/26/09
This is all very interesting but...  Graham Ellison | 06/26/09
Article  abcmurphy | 06/26/09
Which is where you are wrong.  isulzer | 06/26/09
No, we are much more arrogant than we appear.  UrbanBard | 06/26/09
A provocative article as usual  marks055@... | 06/26/09
Apple has always fired their customers who refused to upgrade  georgeou | 06/29/09
Huh?  jragosta | 06/29/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  john_s_napper@... | 06/26/09
Follow The Money  TwoDumbFrogs | 06/26/09
So, Ed, you got the responses you wanted  David Hamilton | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  geo@... | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  1031982 | 06/26/09
False assumption  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/26/09
Ed, it's only $29...  sjanofsky@... | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  vze29knp@... | 06/26/09
Better Upgrade Option  cement_head | 06/26/09
Nah, they're too afraid to try that...  InAction Man | 06/26/09
Misposted. Response to far previous comment  vulpine@... | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  d-cinema | 06/26/09
Ridiculous Article  comp_indiana | 06/26/09
Pathetic Ed, really pathetic  Info-Dave | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  mjpryan | 06/26/09
Actually, Snow Leopard is an upgrade to NeXTstep.  UrbanBard | 06/26/09
Ultimate Buyers Get Screwed!!!!  Masari.Jones | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  samalakas | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  condelirios | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  jofu | 06/26/09
iWork 09  Partners in Grime | 06/28/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  stenman@... | 06/26/09
Don't take this bait!  etalk | 06/26/09
I don't think Ed Graduated math class...  thedr00 | 06/26/09
Good points, right up until  gnesterenko | 06/26/09
You mean Pentium 4, D was the first generation dual-core. The worst one nt  NeoGeneration | 06/26/09
Patetic....Windows 7 runs on 2005-2006 (even 2004) hardware.  NeoGeneration | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  wizardgdog@... | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  abcmurphy | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  james@... | 06/26/09
"...get a life,..."  vulpine@... | 06/27/09
When is 29 dollars not 29 dollars?  GuidingLight | 06/26/09
Bitter much?  wrexallen@... | 06/26/09
Some Guarantee  GuidingLight | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  GaryRM | 06/26/09
Wow  jragosta | 06/26/09
Wow, talk about bad math  gnesterenko | 06/26/09
Speaking of FUD  jragosta | 06/26/09
And only...  Sleeper Service | 06/27/09
Huh?  jragosta | 06/27/09
I'm not flaming Ed...  Sleeper Service | 06/28/09
Nonsense  jragosta | 06/28/09
@jragosta: Joe, that's not what Ed said.  ye | 06/28/09
Try again, your own numbers miss the mark.  vulpine@... | 06/27/09
Yes, Mr. Bott. And USB plugs won't fit in Firewire outlets.  3dtodd | 06/26/09
Seems Like An Anti-Apple Agenda Here?  bjohnson1279 | 06/26/09
This whole subject is irrelevant  K4thwright | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  Gauss1777 | 06/26/09
Doesn't matter much.  teddybairs1 | 06/26/09
Well said!  Charles Norrie | 06/26/09
Win 7 on a machine built for XP?  zdsolsoldmeout@... | 06/26/09
Some of the yes....if they have at least 512MB-1GB of ram  NeoGeneration | 06/26/09
re: Win 7 on a machine built for XP  robertleeking@... | 06/26/09
Teddybairs1  cpenn@... | 06/26/09
Windows might be more expensive, but it will last more than a year  AdrianWerner | 06/26/09
Bingo, and let`s not forget. Windows 7 runs on PCs older than 2006..  NeoGeneration | 06/26/09
Quickly abandoning?  vulpine@... | 06/27/09
Vista did not abandone the P4.  ye | 06/27/09
Ah, ye of little truth...  vulpine@... | 06/27/09
Ah, vulpine, of cluelessness.  ye | 06/27/09
Forgot your history already, ye?  vulpine@... | 06/27/09
It worked just fine.  ye | 06/27/09
Rememeber that the dumb included some of Microsoft's upper echelons  zkiwi | 06/27/09
Serious compatibility issues with the majority of devices?  rtk | 06/27/09
"Vista at RTM worked perfectly fine..."  vulpine@... | 06/27/09
Vista works fine on low end hardware.  ye | 06/27/09
Why?  jragosta | 06/28/09
Easy  rtk | 06/28/09
@rtk You know what's funny?  vulpine@... | 06/28/09
@rtk Good one  jragosta | 06/28/09
10.3  NeoGeneration | 06/27/09
Win7 HAS to be a full OS  SunnyGuy53 | 06/28/09
Seriously flawed article  waestrem | 06/26/09
Is Vista really an Upgrade?  waestrem | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  Gyula Bognar, Jr. | 06/26/09
I see one problem with the $49-99 upgrade  rkegel@... | 06/26/09
I agree  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/26/09
We'll see  rkegel@... | 06/26/09
Most regular people don't buy Windows  georgeou | 06/29/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  smith930@... | 06/26/09
It's $49 plus the cost of replacing your XP programs, or $99  tzcannon | 06/26/09
This lame discussion...  pbromelkamp | 06/26/09
I don't really care. I'm still buying an Apple  Shinsengumi | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  rliddil@... | 06/26/09
Flamer or professional  john_e_fish | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  benardquek@... | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  richdave | 06/26/09
Snow Leopard, Win7, and Linux  vulpine@... | 06/27/09
Oh How The Cats Howl...  windozefreak | 06/26/09
Truth  jragosta | 06/26/09
Truth? What truth?  vulpine@... | 06/27/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  kurtinatlanta | 06/26/09
Way to much!!!  richdave | 06/26/09
Read my comment earlier...  vulpine@... | 06/27/09
RE:Read my comment earlier...  richdave | 06/28/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  edfranco1@... | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  edfranco1@... | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  edfranco1@... | 06/26/09
Bad Bad Article. Linux anyone?!?!  rtalbert | 06/26/09
Hey Duds!!!! It's an OS  rtalbert | 06/26/09
MS Fanboy Bafflegab  johnelberling@... | 06/26/09
Why is it...  NameRedacted | 06/27/09
Some wrong info...  jf79 | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  rkostynu@... | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  Shooshie | 06/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  Bengt | 06/27/09
Anyone read the pricing as stated on the Apple page?  lorenz.jens@... | 06/27/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  REunson | 06/27/09
Uh, you better read the article again...  Sleeper Service | 06/27/09
Uh you better read my comment again!!  REunson | 06/27/09
Fancy calculator you got there  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/27/09
Best Mac joke I've seen  kaninelupus | 06/27/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  j-mccurdy@... | 06/27/09
So?  jragosta | 06/27/09
Mactards VS's gamers  kaninelupus | 06/27/09
Yes  jragosta | 06/27/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  jragosta | 06/27/09
You obviously aren't familiar with software  NameRedacted | 06/27/09
So?  jragosta | 06/27/09
iLife = Photoshop????  NameRedacted | 06/27/09
A fatal flaw in your article  Kaiwai | 06/27/09
No, it doesn't assume that  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 06/27/09
Sorry Ed  merlin747 | 06/27/09
Sorry Kelly...  NameRedacted | 06/27/09
Sorry, fmp...  vulpine@... | 06/27/09
Decent Analysis  NameRedacted | 06/27/09
Deeper?  jragosta | 06/28/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  kpbpsw | 06/27/09
Meaningless Analysis  Keith in CA | 06/27/09
Is it a prequisite for Mac owners to be obtuse?  NameRedacted | 06/27/09
No, but to be a Windows Zealot it does.  vulpine@... | 06/27/09
Waste of time  dogbreath1 | 06/27/09
Tedious comments...  cfischer83@... | 06/27/09
Speaking of Tedious Blindness...  vulpine@... | 06/27/09
Nonsense  nizuse | 06/27/09
Sense  vulpine@... | 06/27/09
here's your wet blanket  dogbreath1 | 06/27/09
Seriously  cfischer83@... | 07/02/09
I stil want to know why my comments were deleted twice?  cfischer83@... | 07/04/09
Incredible  EmperorDarius | 06/28/09
Look at it this way:  nizuse | 06/28/09
Yeah, right  EmperorDarius | 06/28/09
OS X versions get tons of Service Packs.  de-void | 06/29/09
wrong  cfischer83@... | 07/01/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  ThereThere | 06/28/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  davesmall | 06/28/09
Worth It? Msft. users will decide, why drag Apple into this?  Davewrite | 06/28/09
Enforcement Paranoia  wellduh | 06/28/09
Article Written by Windows Fan Boi  jahrends | 06/28/09
A slight exageration!!  kaninelupus | 06/28/09
Speaking of Gullible  His_Shadow | 07/03/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  davesmall | 06/28/09
Let's state the FACTS  c_lakhani@... | 06/28/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  bigtazz | 06/28/09
Look at it this way...  Komplex | 06/29/09
iMac G5 Owner  Culvero | 06/29/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  kirkwrkn@... | 06/29/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  rparker009 | 06/29/09
Neither are completely new OS's  c_lakhani@... | 06/29/09
What's the confusion about?  jojoleb@... | 06/30/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  lesbreed | 06/30/09
Dear ED BOTT  heshes | 06/30/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  patbot | 07/01/09
Well said!  jojoleb@... | 07/01/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  45north | 07/01/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  cfischer83@... | 07/01/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  john_gillespie@... | 07/02/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  bub9001 | 07/02/09
More false article Suppositions  DivideByZero | 07/03/09
comparing apples to turds  afawzy316@... | 07/03/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  Squuiid@... | 07/05/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  sscenario@... | 07/06/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  SuperSport1966 | 07/08/09
HaHa who's the DA?!  LaughNMac | 07/09/09
/sigh - wrong.  bigglingg | 09/10/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  zdnet-gregc | 07/15/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  ceo@... | 07/22/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  justinlawrence | 08/17/09
Another reason why...  Gradius2 | 08/18/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  benardquek@... | 08/19/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  rparker009 | 08/24/09
Excellent job, Ed!  chas_2 | 08/24/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  tucker@... | 08/24/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  timothyt@... | 08/24/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  madtown | 08/24/09
Snow Leopard upgrade cost for Tiger users is $129, not $169.  veimmone | 08/24/09
You're wrong  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/24/09
Snow Leopard works fine  floccibob | 08/28/09
The Real Cost?  derek.haines | 08/24/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  tdibble | 08/24/09
WRONG!  MacHater1 | 08/24/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  richdave | 08/24/09
Why is this thread back!?!  gnesterenko | 08/24/09
Why?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/24/09
Because Ed is a tool?  Bruizer | 08/25/09
New Computers with Vista Basic not getting free Win 7 upgrade?  tzcannon | 08/24/09
Difference is, I see benefits updating my Mac.  wentbackward | 08/24/09
Actually, Recent Apple Purchases Charged $9 For Upgrade  Boulder_Bum | 08/24/09
Oh, c'mon  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/24/09
Takes my corporate box right at 11 minutes  Bruizer | 08/25/09
Then you should fix it  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/25/09
Takes my corporate box about 2 minutes.  trance2tec | 08/26/09
Sorry, Old Hardware Runs Slow  Boulder_Bum | 08/26/09
Windows v Mac OS X  john.foggitt@... | 08/25/09
Bott's BogusBit of Troll Bait  spincitysd@... | 08/26/09
Wow, defensive much?  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 08/26/09
Hu?  lkenner@... | 08/26/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  quizzed | 08/27/09
Two Different Business Models Here...  Linkager | 08/30/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  vmacintyre | 09/03/09
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha  Ed Bott ZDNet Moderator | 09/03/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  scorp888 | 09/07/09
Why not compare hardware while you're at it?  bigglingg | 09/10/09
Three year old PC's that can run vista and more...  Computer_User_1024 | 09/14/09
Know your stuff and win!  kgeiger | 10/31/09
Agreed  kgeiger | 10/31/09
Think Web-nuts . . . think!  kgeiger | 10/31/09
Gnesterenko  kgeiger | 11/01/09
RE: Windows 7 versus Snow Leopard: How much do those upgrades really cost?  cocococo013 | 11/16/09

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